Condom flip

[uncertaindland]

Hello

Today I had a sexual encounter with a new partner, who I know engages in insertive unprotected anal sex on occasion. (He reports that his last test from this Winter was, however, negative, but one can never be certain what has happened in the meanwhile).

Anyway.. we were going to have anal sex, and he started to put the condom on, realized it was inside-out (he was basically just pressing it over the head of his penis and realized his mistake) then flipped it around and put it on the right way. This means his penis head was in contact with the side of the condom that went into me. In between his putting the condom on and inserting in me I jerked his condom-ed penis a little and he applied lube to it etc. He only stuck it in a few centimeters and then I decided I didnt want to go through with it, so we stopped.

Is PEP recommended in such a situation, or is it essentially a negligible risk situation, like oral sex is?

[RapidRod]

You were never at any risk at all.

[jkinatl2]

Just to reiterate, this is absolutely NO RISK for HIV infection. It's not even theoretically risky.

[Ann]

Uncertain,

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.

Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. For this reason, any hiv that may have been on the condom would have been too damaged to infect by the time he penetrated you.

You did NOT have a risk for hiv infection.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY OVER THIS INCIDENT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann

[uncertaindland]

THank you for the advice on the last situation.. but today just something else I have a question about happened.

I had a threesome with a friend of mine and a new guy. At one point my friend was fingering the other guy, then shortly afterward (a minute or two at most) he fingered me. Is this an HIV risk? I realise this is in fact a risk incident for other STI's, but I am not certain about the HIV risk involved. Help?

[RapidRod]

Fingering is not a risk of HIV transmission.

[uncertaindland]

Yes, I realize that, but being one isn't advised to share things like dildos without changing the condoms on them, I just was sort of uncertain!

[jkinatl2]

Yes, I realize that, but being one isn't advised to share things like dildos without changing the condoms on them, I just was sort of uncertain!

The sharing of sex toys caution is obsolete. You will not get HIV from sharing sex toys. The virus is too fragile to survive outside the body.

[uncertaindland]

Oh, that is good to know! It's sometimes difficult to tell what guidelines are current or which have been ruled out as realistic transmission routes - the internet is full of conflicting information. Thanks for clarifying.

[Ann]

uncertain,

The advice to use condoms on sex toys (and change them when going from one person to another) IS obsolete where hiv is concerned, but it's good advice where some of the bacterial STIs are concerned, such as gonorrhea and chlamydia. Those can remain viable outside the body for short periods of time.

So can other, garden variety bacteria like E.coli (which is found in the rectum of many people and only causes a problem if there is too much of it). Just for the record, E.coli would mainly be a problem in a sexual setting if a toy (or penis) is inserted into an anus and then inserted into a vagina without changing the condom or washing in between. Also, E.coli can cause urinary tract/bladder infections if it gets into the urethra - and this also primarily affects women because we have shorter urethras.

Bacterial infections are MUCH more easily transmitted than hiv could ever hope to be (if a virus could hope, which it actually can't).

It's all too true that many websites contain outdated or just plain wrong information regarding hiv. We don't do that here, so stick with us and ignore the rest.

Ann