I don't like Gay Pride, I never related to the people I see parading in the streets, I am not proud of being gay, I'm just gay, it's not an achievement, I'm only proud of things I achieve.
Its not for what you achieved. The pride is in not being shamed, ostracized, condemned, and otherwise strangled as a human being, bother figuratively and literally.
Its not for what you achieved. The pride is in not being shamed, ostracized, condemned, and otherwise strangled as a human being, bother figuratively and literally.
Of course, these also were the days when hotel owners would refuse to rent a room to gays and lesbians, apartment owners refused to lease flats, business owners fired employees and medical personal refused to treat people just because they were gay or lesbian.
Actually, the largest cock of my life was scored at a gay pride, though it was 6am and I'd just left Jay's Hangout, now closed due to gentrification. He was from LA and a member of the Crips.
Milker,Carolann, I'm not trying to ridicule anyone, I just said that I do not relate, and that I did not think showing off in leopard skin was what improved the understanding of the gay life by heterosexual people. I see nothing shameful in expressing an opinion.
I don\'t see what the point is in putting down people who celebrate their personal freedom. I don\'t think that you or anyone has the right to ridicule how gay people choose to express themselves. I went to Los Angeles gay pride this past week-end with my best friend, a wonderful, kind gay man who works with me. It was awesome. Just remember, it was the drag queens who had the balls to stand up to the police at Stonewall, leopard skin and all. Gay people come in all flavors and colors and span the whole spectrum. I love it when people try to differentiate themselved from the \"other\" as if being more feminine makes gay men less human. That is shameful.
Carolann
But to say..."oh those freaky people are giving gays a bad name" is to show your prejudice and possibly your hypocracy....F
So if you don\'t relate, well keep on being nothing more than what most of society thinks is a \"pervert\" who thinks he is above everyone else.
Carolann (who believes in freedom of expression)
This issue of assimilation versus identity has been going on for a long time. Gays want to be respected be we don't always want to be respectable. Many gays have learned to appreciate being on the fringe of society, of being different and we don't want to lead average lives while some want to have the house, the spouse and the 2.5 kids. I think we all agree that don't like being attacked or disenfranchised. It's a difficult balance.
This is absolutely true. I personally have little in common with assimilationists. I have no desire to become one of the silent majority, marry a spouse, adopt a child, have the suburban house with the white picket fence, a sheepdog and Tupperware.
But this has nothing to do with being gay or parading about your sexual orientation.I'm serious. Self loathing closet shit? Let me check the dictionary first. Ok I just did. Answer is "no". Any other question?
MIlkie,
"Parading your sexual orientation?"
WTF? Are you serious? What sort of self loathing closet shit is this?
MtD
Any other question?whew!
No Milkie. Everything is now abundantly clear.
MtD
whew!You never learned to read the line, have ya Matty :D
You've never learned to read between the lines, have ya Milkie?
MtD
Frankly I think too many get into a game of semantics over the word "pride" and as a result seem to misunderstand the entire purpose of the event which in my mind is just a reminder to ourselves and others that gay people are part of the culture and want to be recognized as such.
It's not about "fitting in" or not... it's about a political movement. Gays shouldn't see everything as so self-centered.Tell them who are parading those days.
Tell them who are parading those days.
Milker.
red herring... .there are ALWAYS lost souls in the world. this does not negate the good work of others. Stop being duplicitous just because you don't get laid at Pride.Well I went to maybe 4 or 5 gay prides in my life, and yes, never got laid. Is that the source of my problem ???
I think I got laid at every gay pride... multiple timesI'm not as good as you are.. that's a given ;( Oh well.. now I know why I don't like gay pride.. never got laid :(
But to me Pride at its best (and worst) is a big Carninale or Mardi Gras, a free-wheeling good time, a chance to get drunk (like I need one) get laid (ditto) and put all the bigoted straights in town on alert that, although free to rant in the privacy of their own home, we're not to be minimized, ever.
It's the visibility of Pride that so many now take for granted. Like Mark (Aztecan), I remember when attending a Gay Pride parade was a highly provocative act of sicial consequence. And in many smaller places it still is.
.... I remember Club OZ with a black limo and two guys wearing leather (who redefined the term "butt ugly"). That car was escorted off the parade route at the first cross street...
. The main reason I dont do Pride is cause it seems to be an excuse to see how many drugs you can do, how drunk you can get, how many you can sleep with, how many parties you went to, etc. I feel that Pride has been distorted into an annual circuit party.
I guess you've never been to a hetero wedding, huh? See? we are equal after all.