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Off Topic Forums => Off Topic Forum => Topic started by: tednlou2 on June 23, 2013, 02:14:04 pm
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One of the journalists Edward Snowden went to with info was Glenn Greenwald of The Guardian. Glenn was on "Meet the Press" this morning. They discuss the news that Snowden left Hong Kong and landed in Russia, and is probably on his way to Venezuala. He talks about how the programs are much deeper than what our politicians and officials are saying. He says they are bulk collecting info, and with really no oversight from the other branches. I've heard some say the govt could pull up all our text messages, calls, emails, websites, and searches, even though we have never talked to a terrorist or been suspected of anything terrorism related.
David asks why Glenn shouldn't be prosecuted for aiding and abetting Snowden. Glenn says he can't believe anyone who calls himself a journalist would muse on whether other journalists should be prosecuted. And, he says David shouldn't make those allegations in the first place, since there is no evidence of that. David said it is open for debate whether Glenn is really acting as a journalist. Senator Dick Durbin says we should have a conversation about this, but suggests why should we worry since we all go on Facebook and Twitter to tell every detail of our lives.
Have your views on this changed? I have become more concerned, after reading the allegations the program is much more detailed than what we've been told. And, after Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, mislead/lied to Congress. I think it is good we are now debating this. After the interview, Glenn posted this on Twitter, "Who needs the government to try to criminalize journalism when you have David Gregory to do it?" David already got the tweet and discussed it on the show. David again seems to question whether Glenn is really acting as a journalist and accuses him of dodging the real issues, by criticizing him and "real" journalists, like David thinks he is. David claims he was not taking a side, rather just asking questions that politicians have asked.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3032608/vp/52288317#52288317
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I dunno.
Maybe the question is how do I feel that Facebook, google, etc etc etc, private companies, have this enormous data on me and share it / sell it to each other. At this point, the government collecting it as well is obvious if also unnerving...
We don't want a government mining it.... until we do want it to, for national defence, for example.
I personally get a little whiff of willful martyr complex about Snowden. If he's so clever, was there no way to start a conversation about this without breaking the law and sabotaging his own life? And journalists just want scoops, I don't think Greenwald is noble or heroic, just doing his job and trying to build his career and his paper's profile.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
So true , just ask Monica Lewinsky .
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So true , just ask Monica Lewinsky .
LOL, hahahah, belly-shaking laugh!
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I just read an article that indicates Edward Snowden sought out jobs where he would be in contact with sensitive NSA data. It implies that he had prior intent to obtain and leak government secrets.
In my mind this negates the image of Snowden as a whistleblower and paints him as a criminal or perhaps even a terrorist.
Also, they're reporting he was not on his scheduled flight from Moscow to Cuba today.
Here's a link to the article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/edward-snowden-booz-allen-hamilton_n_3491203.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/edward-snowden-booz-allen-hamilton_n_3491203.html)
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He's probably hiding in bed with that creepy Julian Assange.
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He's probably hiding in bed with that creepy Julian Assange.
Ugh, that's a disturbing image. Snowden is actually kinda cute. But Assange...... yuck.