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Author Topic: Stupidity Reigns Supreme  (Read 1743 times)

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Offline Solo_LTSurvivor

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Stupidity Reigns Supreme
« on: July 06, 2012, 11:19:14 am »
At first I was going to post this in "Off Topic" but since it deals with a part of hiv history, I decided to post it here.

One of the local NPR hosts did a segment with the director of the new documentary United In Anger: A History of ACT UP today at approximately 10:45 AM -- but unfortunately it didn't air in its entirety since they cut away to listen to Obama discuss the latest job stats.  Of course it turned out that they erred, as it was a "pep rally" speech of sorts, and they never returned to finish the segment.

Before the segment even aired there were comments being posted to the page.

Here are some representative samples (with timestamps) which have not been edited, with the exception of removing identifying info:

When AIDS surfaces in the 1980s, why didn't the same-sex community urge people to avoid sexual relations since they spread this fatal illness?
Jul. 06 2012 05:57 AM

@ first commenter -
I'm not sure I would go that far, but ACT UP and others did make big mistakes, intimidating those who should know better....and now forgotten-

Gay activists at LAMBDA Legal Foundation actually fought the city's effort to close down the gay bath houses (huge public health hazards as transmission sites) where multiple, anonymous, usually unprotected copulations with other gay males could be had for the price of admission. That this was seen as fascist by activists seems unbelievable in this age when large soda sizes and outdoor smoking is banned by the city.

And then there was the scare campaign that traditional heterosexual sex was just as dangerous as repetitive unprotected anal sex........misery loves company and allies in fear.......even though many experts at the time expressed doubt about the evidence for this. Now 30 years later, we see this for the politically correct scare tactic by gay activists that it was.....though it has produced an unfortunate epidemic of single parenthood (50% of mothers under 30).

Jul. 06 2012 06:35 AM
don't equate intelligence with lack of masculinity
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Re: Stupidity Reigns Supreme
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2012, 11:43:19 am »
And the best comment of all....  The poster had provided names of ancient journals to validate his claims, which I removed -- but they can be found on the show's page (see first post in thread).

The HIV transmission scare is in accord with tradition of always blaming outlyers (ie: asian or spanish flu; SARS; West Niles). In the case of HIV, it blamed gays, when in fact it was based on what some gays used-----Nitrate inhalers that were immunosupressive afrodisiacs. In other words, they abused specific drugs.


Sexual transmission is merely a very convenient assumption. All the scientific studies that have tried to measure the sexual transmission of HIV have repeatedly shown that it is virtually impossible to transmitt HIV sexually or by any other means.

Jul. 06 2012 11:36 AM
don't equate intelligence with lack of masculinity
Jim Phelps, Mission Impossible
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Seroconverted: Early 80s
Tested & confirmed what I already knew: early 90s

Current regimen: Biktarvy. 
Last regimen:  Atripla (with NO adverse side effects: no vivid dreams and NONE of the problems people who can't tolerate this drug may experience: color me lucky ::))
Past regimens
Fun stuff (in the past):  HAV/HBV, crypto, shingles, AIDS, PCP

Jan 2012: 818/21%
Apr 2012: 964/22%
Jul. 2012: 890/21%
Oct. 2012: 920/23%

Still UD after all these years

 


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