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Title: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on December 31, 2010, 07:23:17 am
espected moderators 5 month's before i was having a sexual exposure with a commercial sex worker..We had a protected vaginal sex but before that protected vaginal sex the girl performed unprotected blowjob on me for about 5 mins.She also sucked my balls...after the sex was over I found the condom was intact on my penis and at the top of the condom I saw my sperms was inside the condom,but the outside of the condom was wet.
1) as i did not noticed any blood on her mouth what was the risk of HIV from getting blowjob..as there is no reported cases of HIV from blowjob U cannot say that HIV cannot pass through blowjob as it is not proved.
2)Was there any chances that the condom may have leaked a little that cannot be seen with bare eyes? If the condom breaked then was my sperm get out my condom?
3)when I can be sure that the condom did not leak or break?how can i be sure?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on December 31, 2010, 07:31:57 am
I also forgot to mention that at teh base of my penis there was a small scratch due to itching.which was not coverd by condom..so vaginal fluid can come in contact with the scrath which may infected me with HIV...So do I need to test for HIV? what was the chance that i may got infected?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on December 31, 2010, 08:01:12 am
You are worrying needlessly. You used a condom for intercourse which is exactly what you ought to do everytime. They provide very effective protection. If a condom fails it is not about some teeny weeny hole. That's a myth. When a condom fails the whole thing goes and it ends up looking like a hoop with fringe on your penis.

Receiving oral is one of the most common of sexual acts. In the entire history of the epidemic  no matter what the variety of specific details of the event, there has never been even one confirmed case of transmission to the receiver in that manner. It's safe to say you aren't going to make history by becoming the first.

There's no need for testing nor for further concern on your part. We do recommend that anyone who is sexually active ought to regularly have a full STD panel done. Other STDs are much easier to acquire than HIV. So a full test at least annually is a good idea. Otherwise there is nothing to be worrying about in relation to the incident which brough you here.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on December 31, 2010, 08:58:57 am
ok thanks a lot but can u plz tel me that wether there is any chace abouth the SCRATCH area of my penis which was in touch with vaginal fluid
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Ann on December 31, 2010, 09:56:05 am
laora,

No, you cannot become infected with hiv through a little scratch that wasn't covered by the condom.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies. Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

Also, hiv can only infect a very few, very specific types of cells and these cells are not found in small cuts, scrapes or scratches.

You wore a condom for intercourse. The important thing is that the head of your penis was covered. You were protected against hiv.

You did not have a risk for hiv infection during any of the activities you wrote about. You do not need to test over this situation.

Ann
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on January 01, 2011, 04:32:05 am
hello i think tat i used MANFORCE condom...but i do not know that wether it is latex or not. from internet i find that MANFORCE condom is (A pack of 10 Manforce Banana flavoured 3-in-1 Extra Time condoms. The condom is Ribbed, Contoured & Dotted for extra pleasure. A condom with a specially formulated lubricant to help your love making last longer.
Lubricated premium quality electronically tested condoms from Mankind Pharma Ltd.

Packing: 10 Pcs.)......so can it protect from HIV?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Ann on January 01, 2011, 04:59:38 am
laora,

As latex condoms are the most common world-wide and also the least expensive, I have no doubt that the condom the sex worker used was latex. Remember, sex workers use condoms to protect themselves, not you.

If you cannot let go of this no risk incident, go test and collect your negative result. As it happened five months ago, your result will be conclusive if you do decide to test.

If you read the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.


Please consider yourself warned!

Ann
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on January 01, 2011, 09:52:00 am
thanks a lot...today i bought the packet of same company(MAN FORCE) it is written here that the condoms are manufactured by CONVEX LATEX PVT LTD...m nw sure that it was a latex condom....thanks a lot again and happy new year
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on January 01, 2011, 11:02:47 am
That's a good way to begin the New Year...letting go of unwarranted fears and moving on with a committment to use condoms everytime for vaginal and anal intercourse.

That's the way to go.

Cheers!
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on January 03, 2011, 12:27:46 pm
jst one questions,plzzz....i fr gt to mention u tat the condom tat i used,may be used by my friend with the same sex worker as the friend informed me that the sex worker putted the condom with her under the bed after the sex...so aftr 5 mins I started vaginal intercrse with that same condom....bt after the sex i found my semen inside he condom and it stayed firm in my penis and did not break..
1) vaginal fluid that remained in the condom when my friend was doing sex mey get in my penis...
2) CDC r claiming that they have documented cases that man get HIV from getting blowjob...where as the doctors of THE BODY forum are claiming that peoples are reportedly become infected from oral sex.....so how u can say that there is no risk from geting blowjob.........................so ccan u plz explain my risk..plz
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on January 03, 2011, 12:54:22 pm
It seems to me that if the condom had been used by your friend you would have known it. So this is more of that "what if" stuff.

We are not responsible for what you may find on other sites and we're not going to get into a back and forth about that with you. Theoretically anything other than sex with your own hand could be a risk. But we know from long experience and scientific data that the only confirmed risks are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. Receiving a blowjob is absolutely not a risk for HIV transmission. Period.

And if you continue to search the web I can guarantee you that you will find misinformation to feed your worst fears.

You had a non-risk incident and you just don't seem willing to accept that. You can if you wish waste resources and get tested if you want to just to relieve your mind. You can do that and collect the inevtiable negative result.

If you come back with more of these unwarranted fears you are definitely going to find yourself getting that Time Out which Ann has warned you about.   
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on January 03, 2011, 01:05:40 pm
thanks alot sir...but my friend told me that he didi nt ejaculated so teh sex worker put the condom rolled from his penis in the same packet..tat is for sure ..so m nt sure wethr the same condom ws used by me as the used condom ws with the sex worker and she puted it in my penis...so plz mke it clear to me tat wetr it is a risk..plz...if i get banned fr tis questn ten i hb nothng to do.plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on January 03, 2011, 01:11:49 pm
Even IF your friend is HIV positive, you still wouldn't have been at risk. HIV is a fragile virus and would not be in a viable form in a used condom. You continue to worry needlessly.

In the future you could avoid some of your concerns by bringing your own condoms when you are going to have intercourse.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on January 09, 2011, 06:38:26 am
respected moderators as evry bdy in this forum states that HIV is a fragile virus...do nt survives outside the body...so no body can say that how long can it survives outside the body say 1 min or 5 mins.so as i used a condom used by my friend for sex with sex worker may be after 5 mins...my friend did nt ezaculated inside the condom but there may be vaginal fluid of that sex worker in the folds of the condom....so as no bdy cn say surely that how long the HIV virus cn stay in the folds of the condom..H ow can u justify my HIV risk....
my friend had sex with the same sex worker
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: RapidRod on January 09, 2011, 08:22:25 am
The answers aren't going to change from what you on Medhelp or what you post here.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Ann on January 09, 2011, 08:33:19 am
laora,

We've already been over this with you and as Rodney says, our answers are not going to change.

I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

Ann
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 07, 2011, 03:03:56 pm
respected moderator i have done my HIV test(ELISA) OF HIV 1 & 2 ANTIBODIES.....the result is 0.027 OD...and written here NON REACTIVE if OD lower than 0.40 OD....is the test reliable?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 07, 2011, 03:10:05 pm
i did the ELISA test aftr six mnths of exposure...can ELISA test be reliable?cn there be a false negetive report?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on February 07, 2011, 05:19:36 pm
Yes, the ELISA test is reliable. It's reliable at 13 weeks. In your case it's totally irrelevant because as you were told numerous times you never had a risk to begin with and testing was not necessary.

You are HIV negative. Period. End of story.

And if you start coming back here with more what ifs and unfounded worries about your status, you will very quickly find yourself getting a Time Out again or being banned permanently. HIV is not a problem for you even though you don't seem willing to believe that.

Cut out all this unnecessary drama and get on with your life.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 07, 2011, 10:20:35 pm
thanks a lot ANDY,ANN and evry members in the forum...........byee
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 08, 2011, 02:18:52 pm
PLZ one more questn..plz frgb me....it is written in tis forum in the guide to testing for HIV tat It's extremely rare for seroconversion to take more than six months to develop detectable antibodies.

No diagnostic test will ever be 100 percent reliable, but if you test negative at the appropriate time (i.e., 13 weeks after possible exposure to the virus), you can consider that to be a dependable confirmation that you are HIV negative.........so can it tke mre tan 6 mnts to detect antibody???????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on February 08, 2011, 04:26:31 pm
A 6 months testing date is only indicated for those who have been longterm intravenous drug users, have cancer or an organ transplant.

Otherwise 13 weeks is sufficient and reliable. You need to stop with the doubts and the what ifs.

You are HIV negative. Period. End of story.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 13, 2011, 12:27:07 pm
Hi MR ANDY VELZ m asking u one thing..plz do not get angry with me..and plz do not give me time out....can u plz tel me will aintigen detectable first than antibody? when one can do antigen testing after an risky exposure?what are the types of standard ANTIBODY testing?IS ELISA antibody testing?Can ELISA give false negetive test report at 6 months? I am asking you tis cuz I talked today with a very well known doctor of our town regarding my exposure,and I also told him abouth you valuable advice.but He scolded me and said that I was in a low risk exposure,and told me to do ANTIGEN test again or CD4 count test...He told me tat as my ELISA test after 6 mnths showed 0.027 OD,the doctor said tat tat as the count was so low it might be FALSE NEGETIVE result...I am feeling realy nervous.....plz reply..I honestly respct u and belv u...m waiting for ur kind reply....
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on February 13, 2011, 12:37:09 pm
Laora, an ELISA isnot going to give you a false negative at 6 months.

Are you still talking in relation to the non-risk incident which brought you here months ago? Because if youare we're simply not going to discuss the matter any further. You didn't have a risk and there's no need for testing.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 13, 2011, 12:47:21 pm
andy velz I am realy greatful to you....u r GOD to me...sir is there any difference between RAPID ELISA,new generation ELISA or standard ELISA? sir what does ELISA test do?will it detect HIV 1&2 antibodies? That doctor told me tat if I tested ELISA aftr 3 mnths and again after 6 mnths and if both is negetive ten no need to test..so as I did not test after 3mnts so a single negetive test aftr 6 mnths might be false negetive...Is it true sir?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 13, 2011, 01:19:35 pm
sir is there any difference between RAPID ELISA,new generation ELISA or standard ELISA? sir what does ELISA test do?will it detect HIV 1&2 antibodies? That doctor told me tat if I tested ELISA aftr 3 mnths and again after 6 mnths and if both is negetive ten no need to test..so as I did not test after 3mnts so a single negetive test aftr 6 mnths might be false negetive...Is it true sir
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on February 13, 2011, 01:21:30 pm
At 13 weeks all generations of tests currently in use will give a reliable result. And yes, your test covers both HIV 1 & 2.

You really need to let go of this now and get on with your life.  
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 13, 2011, 01:35:56 pm
but sir I did nt do the test at 13 weeks...i did it aftr 6 mnths...cn it be false negetive as I did nt test at 13 weeks?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 13, 2011, 01:49:39 pm
but sir I did nt do the test at 13 weeks...i did it aftr 6 mnths...cn it be false negetive as I did nt test at 13 weeks?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: RapidRod on February 13, 2011, 02:33:50 pm
If 3 months is conclusive and you tested at 6 months. what does that tell you? Means you tested three months longer than need be.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 13, 2011, 02:42:10 pm
so u r telling tat longer than 3 mnths is much more accurate?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: RapidRod on February 13, 2011, 02:58:51 pm
No that is not what I said. I said if 3 months is conclusive and you tested at 6 months it is also conclusive. You wouldn't have had to test beyond 3 months had you tested at that time.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 13, 2011, 03:11:48 pm
So a single antibody test at 3 mnths mark is 100% reliable??????????????
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: RapidRod on February 13, 2011, 03:26:28 pm
So a single antibody test at 3 mnths mark is 100% reliable??????????????
How many times have you been told that 3 months is conclusive?

■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on February 13, 2011, 03:32:13 pm
 It's extremely rare for seroconversion to take more than six months to develop detectable antibodies.....in tis forum it is written......so wat does it mean tat it may be possible not to get detectable antibodies at 6 mnths?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on February 13, 2011, 04:18:20 pm
The only instances in which it is known to take up to 6 months for seroconversion are situations in which involve extensive intravenous drug use, organ transplants and treatment for a disease like cancer.

I have no reason to believe any of those apply to you. As for more than 6 months, I am sure if you indulge yourself in surfing the web you will find exceptions of questionable veracity to scare yourself with. We're not going to go there with you.

If you can back with more of these what ifs you are going to get a Time Out. HIV is not your problem. Period.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Ann on February 13, 2011, 06:24:11 pm
laora,

You never had a risk for hiv infection in the first place and you've been repeatedly told that a three month negative is conclusive.

Come back with more about this no-risk, conclusive negative situation and you will be given a second time out, which will last for 56 days.

Please consider yourself warned for the LAST time!!!

Ann
Title: HIV antibody test
Post by: laora on April 25, 2011, 01:57:19 pm
I was strucked with a NEEDLE 84 days back..today id 85 th days going on tat is 12 weeks..so is dere is any difference in reliability in 12 weeks and 13 weeks antidody test(ELISA) result? Plz reply me so tat i will test tommorw
Title: Re: HIV antibody test
Post by: laora on April 25, 2011, 02:25:35 pm
by 3 months what do u mean?12 weeks or 13 weeks?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on April 25, 2011, 03:15:03 pm
Either 12 or 13 weeks are equal to the same thing for getting a reliable result.

Stop making things so complicated. Get your test and collect what I expect will be a negative result.

Also, I have merged your threads here. Please follow our rule and make all entries in this same thread without beginning new ones. 
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on June 27, 2011, 06:50:36 am
I have been in a relationshp with a woman for 15 yrs.we did not know each other s HIV status.bt I did not have ne multiple partners,& she also told tat she has no other partners.we did unprotected sex many many times& I was not scared abouth HIV.but one year back I had protected sex &unprotected oral with a commercial sex worker.& I was so scared tat I did HIV test[ELiSA HIV 1&2 antibody] thrice at 6th,8th& 9 months mark.all those test ws negetive.I ws scared only due to my exposure with sex worker not with that woman.after my negetive result I again started unprotected sex with tat woman with whom I ws doing sex for so many years.bt suddenly I ws scared tat if the woman has multiple partners,so asked her many tmes wether she has multiple partners,she replied tat I m is only partner..bt still my mind does nt belv her..what do u think tat should I go for test??? What do u conclude after reading my story.is tat woman lying???is elisa HIV 1&2 antibody test is 3rd generation test???
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Ann on June 27, 2011, 07:29:08 am
Laora,

You do  not have hiv from your experience with the sex worker, which is no surprise because protected intercourse is not a risk for hiv infection and neither is getting a blowjob.

If you cannot trust your partner, then the answer is simple. Use condoms with her until she agrees to test. If you have reason to believe she's having intercourse with others during your relationship, then you should keep using condoms regardless of her testing. Remember, there are other more easily transmitted STIs out there.

Ann
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on June 27, 2011, 07:42:21 am
But as I told that even after the test I have done unprotected sex few weeks back which is after my HIV test..shall I go for test???is HIV antibody test at 6•8 weeks conclusive???
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Ann on June 27, 2011, 07:45:46 am
Laora,

While a six week (or more) negative test result is highly unlikely to change, the only conclusive result is one at the three month point.

Test all you like, but if you cannot trust your partner, then you should be using condoms with her instead of testing all the time.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!!!

Ann
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on June 27, 2011, 07:48:09 am
 I mean uprotectected sex with that woman with whom I have been doing sex for so long time
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on June 27, 2011, 07:54:57 am
 Bt DR H Hunter& DR Hook use to advice in medhelp tat 6•8 weeks antibody test is 100% reliable..ten why tis forum is still sayin 3 mnths test is reliable
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Ann on June 27, 2011, 08:48:05 am
I mean uprotectected sex with that woman with whom I have been doing sex for so long time

Yes, I understand. However, you do not seem to be able to trust her. If this is the case, perhaps you should use condoms with her until such time as you have both tested negative together and are securely monogamous.

We go by the CDC's recommendation of a three month window for a conclusive result. The British hiv authority also goes by the three month window. I do expect the window period to eventually drop to six weeks, but for now it remains at three months.

Ann
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on September 27, 2011, 01:09:03 pm
hey......i got this news...it is an authentic news from DAILY NEWS AND ANALYSIS.......THE NEWS IS .......HIV, according to experts, is not normally transmitted through saliva. Transmission of the virus from the host is possible when saliva is mixed with blood.

In an unusual case, which should make the experts revisit their earlier position, a 50-year-old man has contacted HIV through his son’s saliva.

The man was bitten by his 32-year-old HIV positive stepson. But the latter did not have ulcers in his mouth, which usually leads to saliva getting mixed with blood.

Documented instances speak of the presence of the virus in saliva, but transmission takes place only in the above case.

“The son had pulled out the thumb nail of his father. Since the wound was raw, the virus could enter easily,” said Dr Alaka Deshpande, who runs the Centre of Excellence ART clinic at JJ hospital. The patient had come to her last year.

To understand the case better, the doctors wanted to verify if the father carried the same virus that has infected his son. Deshpande then sent the patient to National Institute of Research in Reproductive Health for further testing.

Dr AH Bandivdekar and Dr Shivaji Jadhav from the department of biochemistry and virology did gene sequencing of the HIV virus in the father and the son’s blood and concluded that both viruses were the same. “This confirmed the source of the HIV virus. Also, the son’s saliva had a high viral load which may have also caused the transmission,” said Dr Deshpande.

Unfortunately, the father was not given post exposure prophylaxis (PEP), a short-term anti-retroviral treatment given to reduce the likelihood of HIV infection after potential exposure. The family doctor told him that the virus cannot spread via saliva.

“He was admitted to JJ hospital for meningitis. After four days, he told us about this history. His blood was then sent for HIV testing and he was discovered HIV positive,” said Deshpande. She stressed that family physicians should know about HIV infected human bites and should treat it with PEP, in which the treatment should start within two hours of the potential exposure.

The father’s viral load was more than 20 lakh then. “He was treated as per US guidelines so that the virus does not spread to other organs. After treatment his viral load came down.” This case study was presented at the International Conference on Emerging Frontiers and Challenges in HIV/AIDS Research by Dr Jadhav to show that HIV infected human bites should be treated with PEP. ...............................................................................................SO IT IS PROVED THAT HIV IS TRANSMITED THROUGH SALIVA..............SO Y IN TIS FORUM U R TELLING THAT SALIVA CANT SPREAD HIV??????????????????????????PLZ REPLY                                                                                                             
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: jkinatl2 on September 27, 2011, 01:27:47 pm
We reply using science that is not over 15 years old, and we reply using first tiered peer-reviewed studies as well as documentation, which the above case you sought out is sorely lacking.


No one has gotten HIV through getting a blowjob.

You do not get HIV through saliva. Period.

Were saliva a vector for transmission, HIV would be considered communicable and contagious rather than infectious.


Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on September 27, 2011, 01:44:12 pm
THE ANSWER WAS GIVEN BY WELL KNOWN DOCTOR OF INDIA....AND THEY HAVE DONE A TEST WHICH PROVES THAT SON AND FATHER HAS SAME VIRUS..SO PLZ READ IT CAREFULLY THAT WITHOUT THE PRESENSE OF BLOOD FATHER BECAME POSITE FROM HIS SON S BITE,WHICH CONTAINS ONLY SALIVA
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on September 27, 2011, 01:45:04 pm
AND ALSO IT IS NOT A PROVEN FACT THAT HIV CNAT BE TRANSFERD THROUGH SALIVA
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Ann on September 27, 2011, 01:52:17 pm
Laora,

For a start, TAKE YOUR CAP LOCKS OFF AND STOP SHOUTING AT US!!!!

This case was highly unusual and involved a lot of blood. The next time you get a blowjob and someone bites the head of your dick off, let us know. Because this guy had the whole nail bitten/torn off his thumb - he didn't get his thumb or dick sucked.

Saliva is not infectious. End of story.

You are still under a second time out WARNING!

Ann
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on September 27, 2011, 02:08:25 pm
M RLY SORRY MADAM......PLZ DNT MAKE ME TIME OUT.....IT IS WRITTEN THERE THAT “The son had pulled out the thumb nail of his father. Since the wound was raw, the virus could enter easily,” said Dr Alaka Deshpande, who runs the Centre of Excellence ART clinic at JJ hospital. The patient had come to her last year.......THE SON WAS HIV POSITIVE.....THE BLOOD WAS HIS FATHER'S NOT OF SON....SO SALIVA MIXED WITH FRESH BLOOD OF FATHER....SO CUM HIS FATHER WAS INFECTED? IF SALIVA IS NOT INFECTOUS!!
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: jkinatl2 on September 27, 2011, 03:41:02 pm
I agree with one thing you state.


SALIVA IS NOT INFECTIOUS!!

I am not going to debate the merits of an ancient patient report. If you do not like the answers you get here, please continue your search elsewhere.

Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on September 27, 2011, 03:59:02 pm
There's no reason for you to be hanging around here and attempting to argue with us. You didn't have a risk. You don't have to accept that evaluation. But we are not going to waste time with more back and forths with you.

As JK suggested, go elsewhere if you are not happy with the information you are getting here. HIV is not your problem.

I am giving you your second Time Out. This time it is for 56 days. Don't make the mistake of trying to get around it by creating a new account. We'll spot that right and it will get you banned permanently from this site.

HIV is not your problem. Period.
Title: fingering
Post by: laora on November 27, 2011, 11:22:22 am
yesterday i fingered a CSW with a cut on my finger..it was 3 hrs old.after fingering when i pressed it sharply it bleeds.....can i get HIV?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Ann on November 27, 2011, 12:27:53 pm
Laora,

You've been coming here for a year now and you should know that fingering is NOT a risk for hiv infection, regardless of cuts, scrapes or hangnails on your fingers.

Not one person has EVER been infected through fingering and you will NOT be the first.

Don't even think about coming back with more questions about this latest NO RISK situation. You have run out of time outs and this time, you will be permanently banned.

PLEASE CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED!!!

Ann
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on December 09, 2011, 01:15:35 pm
today i have a protected vaginal sex and also i give cunnilingus by covering my tongue with a condom,but while giving oral sex although my tongue was covered but my lips were not covered which come in touch with the outside layer of vagina which was wet when my tongue went inside da vagina and the lips touched the opening skin of vagina.....can i get HIV?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on December 09, 2011, 01:16:35 pm
m asking about cunnilingus only
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: RapidRod on December 09, 2011, 01:59:00 pm
Again you never had an exposure.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on December 09, 2011, 03:06:47 pm
You are again worrying needlessly. The area of the vagina which might have HIV+ fluids if the woman is positive is the cervical area, far up in the vaginal cavity. Your tongue would not be reaching that area.

Stop creating unnecessary worries for yourself. Get on with your life.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on December 09, 2011, 10:09:22 pm
thnaks...but fluid from cervical area cab roll down to the opening of the vagina.....cant it?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: RapidRod on December 09, 2011, 10:13:52 pm
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on December 10, 2011, 05:42:10 am
then why the doctors of medhelp DR H HUNTER,DR SEAN etc are saying cunnilingus is very low risk but here you are saying no risk.....even in the study of HIV+ & - couples they were on medicine that will suppress the viral load and reduce the risk to a great extent..withot medicine the risk will improves a lot...
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: RapidRod on December 10, 2011, 08:49:03 am
"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD

That is what he actually says.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on December 10, 2011, 09:21:54 am
You were not at risk...again.

And I am giving you one last warning about coming here over a non-risk. You've been here long enough to know what is risky: unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. That's it.

If you come back with more arguments you are going to find yourself getting a permanent ban from the site. Use condoms everytime for intercourse and you will be well protected. Yes, it really is that simple.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on December 23, 2011, 10:59:46 am
today i have slept with a CSW,,,,no oral sex no vaginal sex....only i lick her nipples,,,m nt sure was there breast milk or not.so if there was breast milk was there HIV risk??
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Andy Velez on December 23, 2011, 11:45:10 am
An adult is not at risk for sucking nipples even if the woman is lactating. Only an infant whose immune system has not become active would be at risk for HIV tranmission by sucking a nipple.

As an adult your immune system protects you very effectively in that situation. In addition your saliva contains over a dozen elements and proteins which very effective prevent the transmission of viable HIV.

You are worrying needlessly. And you have been coming here long enough to know what is risky and what isn't. You need to apply what we have told you in the past to your ongoing sexual experiences instead of coming here as if we have never talked with you before about risks and non-risks.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on December 23, 2011, 12:02:33 pm
actualy i was quite puzzled as in medhelp forum DR SEaN and some of them sometimes say tat breast milk can transfer hiv bt low risk.....so r u telling me NO RISK>?no need to test?
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: RapidRod on December 23, 2011, 12:08:42 pm
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: laora on December 23, 2011, 12:11:10 pm
DR HOOK has said
Even if your exposure resulted in ingestion of breast milk your risk of HIV is very, very low.  Here is why:

1.  Statistically most exotic dancers are not HIV infected.
2.  Even if she was, ingestion of breast milk is low risk, analogous to oral sex.  The odds of getting HIV from oral sex (sorry there are no data on adults taking in breast milk) are estimated to be less than 1 in 10,000 IF your partner is infected.  Some experts go so far as to say there is no risk from oral sex.  Thus by analogy, ingestion of a few drops of breast milk would similarly be an almost no risk exposure.   

If you are nervous about this exposure, testing would be fine.  The test will almost certainly be negative.  Given the very low risk nature of your exposure, I would say that you could certainly be tested at 8 rather than 12 weeks and have great confidence in the result., At eight weeks following exposure 98-99% of all tests that are going to be positive will be - the extra month only picks up the last percent or so of positives..  Hope this helps.  EWH ...so he is saying tat still dere is a risk...m confused...so plz clarify me..plz
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: RapidRod on December 23, 2011, 12:16:25 pm
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
Title: Re: my risky exposure
Post by: Ann on December 24, 2011, 06:02:09 am
Laora,

Not one adult has ever been infected with hiv through breast milk. Only tiny babies who depend on breast milk as their sole source of nourishment are at risk from breast milk, and even those babies are not guaranteed to become infected.

If you put so much stock in the replies of the doctors over at the Body or MedHelp or where ever, I suggest you write to them instead of us in future. You'll have to anyway, because I'm giving you that permanent time out you've been warned about.

Remember to use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently and you will avoid hiv infection. Also remember to get yearly sexual health check ups, as the other STIs are MUCH more easily transmitted than hiv and many of them can be present with no obvious symptoms. The only way to know the true state of your sexual health is regular testing.

And please seek out the help of a mental health care professional. We cannot help you with your hiv phobia here.

You've been coming here long enough now to have been educated on what is and is not a risk for hiv infection. If we haven't gotten through to you by now, I see no hope for getting through to you in future. You are now permanently banned.

Ann


edited to add... While setting up your ban, I discovered that you have also been posting as mau (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=87683) and you set that account up during your (as laora) Time Out this past autumn. Your Time Out as mau was due to expire tomorrow, but you are now permanently banned under both names.

Please get the professional mental health care you so obviously need. We cannot provide you with that here and we will not tolerate multiple accounts set up to feed your paranoias and irrational fears.

Please let this be a warning to the rest of you who use this forum. You WILL be permanently banned for creating new accounts. We might not catch you right off, but catch you - and BAN you - we will.