Let me be clear. I do not question the faith. I question the fact that the faith is towards a christian God, given the burdens and suffering they have been through.
Milker.
Here is an interesting website
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/
I'd encourage you to look at it and take the test
Jesus Christ probably had dark skin anyway.
I refuse to get involved in this thread.
Jesus in black in Ethiopia. He became white in Byzantine times.
facked you out, Timmy
I had a vision. This is what Jesus looked like.
(http://www.optimistique.com/pierre.et.gilles/images/galerie/pg36.jpg)
Or did massa tell me that. I's a forgets.
Jesus is Dominican... it's a known fact.Which probably explains why you were down on your knees every Sunday.
Is it just me or Cliff's Jesus looks a little pissed off? What? Jesus is Dominican? Then it is not Jesus but Heysus....LMAO....And yep, Winiroo, it is black history month...Figures the blacks would get the shortest month of the year even though it is a leap year.... :-\
LOL
Gut instinct said to type "teach me, oh black one."
Fear said "Dont write it, someone will be offended"
Which probably explains why you were down on your knees every Sunday.
:D ROFL Cliff, you must be butter tonight because you're on a roll
look at the original question without automatically thinking that I'm a racist or that I despise religion.No one accused you of being racist or hating religion in this thread. Perhaps you should step back and read the responses without automatically assuming that because some find it silly, generalizing or even offensive, that you must be racist or hate God.
"why do blacks" I ask? Because that's the topic I'm interested in. I'm not asking why do whites try to dance like blacks, this is another topic, maybe.Milker, why exactly are you seriously interested in this topic? Perhaps if you explain that, more people will take it seriously. And what research have you done on this topic, prior to asking in the forum?
I think Queen may have said in a very short sentence what i'm trying to ask: what is the fascination in Blacks following Christianity, and I'm asking specifically about African Americans because of the specific background, the slavery in the US of A. I know there are very faithful black christians all over Africa and around the world, but this is not the question.Why is that not the question? If this was a serious topic for you, it seems like that would be logical extension of the question. Plus your original thread says this on the matter…
I saw a number of responses saying that the color of the Christ doesn't matter. I agree, but what makes someone follow this particular religion, when it was imposed on him or her, and particularly at a very difficult time? That's what baffles me and I've never really understood.Religion is imposed on everyone, Milker. No one is given a choice, regardless of race or religion and regardless of the historical context that the religion was brought into the community (ages ago). People are forced to follow their parent's God, until they are old enough to make their own choices...and most will continue down that path. And some, like the Queen, will follow a radically different path (or no path at all). If people should reject a religion because it was forced upon their ancestors, then you should question why doesn't most of the world reject Christianity (or Islam). It (they) didn't spread all over the world by throwing fabulous tea parties.
Chrisitianity is a religion that developed in Africa -- specifically, in the Jerusalem area of the Palestine province in the northern part of the African continent??? Palestine isn't in Africa. It's in Asia. The Middle East.
Queen, your experience is also very interesting. I'm not sure about the paintings and statues being cool but that made me laugh :) I am glad you took this thread seriously and answered with your heart. Thank you so much too.
Milker.
No one accused you of being racist or hating religion in this thread. Perhaps you should step back and read the responses without automatically assuming that because some find it silly, generalizing or even offensive, that you must be racist or hate God.That's exactly what i'm saying. I knew that people on here wouldn't jump on this thread and start accusing me of racism without first understanding what i'm asking.
Milker, why exactly are you seriously interested in this topic? Perhaps if you explain that, more people will take it seriously. And what research have you done on this topic, prior to asking in the forum?This subject is something that has always been in my mind. Rather than making this a fact, I was interested to know how this faith in Christianity grew from the slaves. Jabez gave me very good points that I didn't think of. I couldn't go to sleep last night because I was thinking what he wrote and I was making more sense of the situation now that I have more pointers to work with.
At the end, Christianity, is born in the region of the Jourdan.
But it is now practice in Europe and elsewhere. Why not only by the Arabs or the Hebrew ?
Because God is the God of all of us.
As I'm sure you know from church or from your Western Civilization classes in school, Christianity is a religion that developed in Africa -- specifically, in the Jerusalem area of the Palestine province in the northern part of the African continent, approximately two thousand years ago.
Let's start from the Old Testament which says (the root of the Christianity):
We all are the descendant of Adam and Eve. Black or White, Yellow or Green..
John the old testament also condones slavery and stoning a person to death for adultery.
No (Genesis 9-18 to 27) ..
No (Genesis 9-18 to 27) ..
Are you ok Dachshund ?
What is your point ?
No (Genesis 9-18 to 27) ..
Jesus Christ is God's only provision for man sin. He Died in our place.
"God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while were yet sinners, Christ died for us" ( Romans 5:8 )
And why wouldn't this be part of the thread, Milker? Isn't that the whole point of your asking?Of course the contents of the books are to be taken into account, but my question was more general and I didn't want to start arguing about each line of the books, which is what I see starting to happen. That kind of discussion goes nowhere in a thread and gets heated fast.
Of course the contents of the books are to be taken into account, but my question was more general and I didn't want to start arguing about each line of the books, which is what I see starting to happen. That kind of discussion goes nowhere in a thread and gets heated fast.
Milker.
So you wanted to ask, in the most lukewarm manner possible, about "why are black people" believing "in the white christian God" - in view of the tainted history of slavery in the US....but without bringing slavery-specific Biblical verse into the conversation?Yes. It's like asking why some homosexuals are Christians. I think Jabez demonstrated very well that this has to do with the power of faith. I think that every individual can find a verse that he or she may not completely agree with. This doesn't make them unable to follow the overall word of God.
Of course the contents of the books are to be taken into account, but my question was more general and I didn't want to start arguing about each line of the books, which is what I see starting to happen. That kind of discussion goes nowhere in a thread and gets heated fast.
Milker.
Yes. It's like asking why some homosexuals are Christians. I think Jabez demonstrated very well that this has to do with the power of faith. I think that every individual can find a verse that he or she may not completely agree with. This doesn't make them unable to follow the overall word of God.
Milker.
Argh. The truth is that I shouldn't be posting much of anything in this thread because I think it's another wretched little exercise of your's, Millker. You always - ALWAYS - do this: Post some broad, far-reaching, way over generalized and potentially inflammatory OP, then spend the rest of the time saying, "I'm not asking this" and "it shouldn't be that"...etc.I'm not the best at expressing exactly what I'm asking, that's true, that's why I constantly try to refocus. I guess what you're saying is that I'm too general in my questions and I should take more time to think about it so that it is better focused to start with. The problem is that with this topic, there are so many things to think about, I mean there is religion, slavery, and we're talking about thing that have been happening for thousands of years. It's not an easy topic to focus, and so when I see answers that go beyond what I'm trying to understand, that's where I say "that's not what i'm asking". Sorry if I'm confusing, but this is definitely not an exercise to see how many answers i'll get before the thread will be locked, contrary to what you seem to think about my intentions. I hope you don't think the same thing about the thread about crating that I left a few minutes ago in off topic.
When the truth is that I suspect you've been hitting the sauce and just got the itch to post the next great controversial thread.
I mean, seriously...you couldn't sleep last night tossing and turning your mind over the issue of "the black man" worshipping "the white man's God"? And you DIDN'T expect this to go anywhere offensive? SRSLY?
Dachshund,
The Bible has been written by the men.
The Bible is made of different text, written by different people at different time in the History (and not necessarily at the same time of the events).
We also know that they was some pressure made on the scribe who wrote the Bible, so the Bible might not reflect the truth.
The theology is a living science.
In between, what we can be sure, is that Christ Died in our place so men have been forgiven by God.
And that as long as you recognize sincerely Jesus as your Saviour, your sins will be forgiven.
The key point is to believe in Jesus, and that Jesus Died in our place.
And Christ have been sent to the Earth because of the sins of the men.
Where is the soul ? The love ? The thinking ? in it ?
Etc.
Dachshund,
God gives men the choices all along their life.
If the Bible was so obvious, there won't be choices.
The faith is above the Bible itself. Its a relationship with God.
The Bible is just a way to reach God. This way is not perfect, because it has been written by men, and men have sins.
You might also think: where do you was before you born. Where will you be after ? How do you came in between ?
Or things like: This is an atom. It has 1 proton, 1 neutron and 1 electron. Where is the soul ? The love ? The thinking ? in it ?
Etc.
Wonder what the bible has to say about disclosure? :P
thunter34, Dachshund
it's your choice.. :-*
Which probably explains why you were down on your knees every Sunday.
Is anyone else befuddled by the point I'm making?
JESUS SPEAKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCPMufI9zUw
I think I'm precumming pachouli.
JESUS SPEAKS
Tempers were getting hot as Hades, up in here, up in here...My bf's online name was Hades.. I'm always asking for trouble, am I not :)
Hey Feng Shaun, Share the acid dude and then we can sing "Do you hear what I hear" Our own version, of course..... ;)
.. I'm always asking for trouble, am I not :)
In between, what we can be sure, is that Christ Died in our place so men have been forgiven by God.
And that as long as you recognize sincerely Jesus as your Saviour, your sins will be forgiven.