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Title: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: tednlou2 on July 14, 2013, 04:19:23 am
I know the Glee fans are very intense.  This will come as a huge loss to them.  I caught him in a few interviews and found him nice.  Well, attractive, too.  I don't watch the show, so my Glee friends tell me he has battled addiction issues.  Sad.  But, unfortunately something that happens to many every day. 

Instead of just making this about a celebrity, I'm curious how many have lost loved ones to addiction?  I have.  While one friend now isn't an addict like we normally view the disease, he will mix his anxiety, pain, and other medications with alcohol.  I've found him passed out on the toilet.  It is odd to hear someone snoring and pissing at the same time.  I keep telling him he needs to space meds out, but especially with alcohol.  His mom has been concerned.  We tried to wake him in bed and he would not wake up.  He seemed to be breathing fine and all that, but he could not be wakened.  Well, I finally began slapping him and he finally murmured to leave him alone.


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3593360?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: Ann on July 14, 2013, 07:21:22 am
Ted, it sounds like you've already decided his death was due to an overdose - but the autopsy won't even happen until Monday. Maybe he died of something totally unrelated to drugs.
Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: mikeyb39 on July 14, 2013, 09:02:34 am
Yeah from what I hear there has been no specific cause of death revealed as of yet.  I don't know anything about the show or him.  It's sad nonetheless he was only 31
Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: weasel on July 14, 2013, 09:51:10 am

   I like GLEE  !

    It is very clear  he abused drugs and was in and out of rehab  for years .

    Not hard to agree with overdose .............


                                                            Weasel   

     
Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: WillyWump on July 14, 2013, 10:19:12 am
So tragic.
Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: tednlou2 on July 16, 2013, 05:10:34 pm
The autopsy results were just released.  Heroin arrests have increased 1,000% here in Louisville.  Police blame pain pills becoming harder to get as the reason.

On a side note, I'm curious how these came back so quickly, but with Michael Jackson and Anna Nicole, it took weeks and over a month to get results.  Just curious why. 


http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/3606817
Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: WillyWump on July 16, 2013, 05:13:29 pm
incredibly tragic. He just couldn't get that goddamned monkey off his back  :(

-W

Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: skeebo1969 on July 16, 2013, 05:42:28 pm


   I don't know all the details regarding his drug use, but from what I've read he seemed to be sober for some time.  Sadly, this may have contributed to his death.  The amount of heroin he used might have been nothing to him in the past, but after being clean for a while that same hit can be lethal.  This is how many heroin users overdose.  It's sad..  I've watched this show with the wife a few times.
Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: WillyWump on July 16, 2013, 05:50:34 pm

    The amount of heroin he used might have been nothing to him in the past, but after being clean for a while that same hit can be lethal.  This is how many heroin users overdose. 

Yes. Excellent point.
Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: jkinatl2 on July 16, 2013, 06:54:12 pm
As usual, the Westboro Baptist Church has been really classy about all this:

http://mirandacosgroove.tumblr.com/post/55483073477

(for those who can't access the link)

They've praised and celebrated the "fag enabler's" death and hope Lea Michele kills herself so that they can have a wedding in hell. Also plan to picket.

Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: GSOgymrat on July 16, 2013, 09:45:41 pm

   I don't know all the details regarding his drug use, but from what I've read he seemed to be sober for some time.  Sadly, this may have contributed to his death.  The amount of heroin he used might have been nothing to him in the past, but after being clean for a while that same hit can be lethal.  This is how many heroin users overdose.

That is exactly what the LCAS counselors in my office think happened.
Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: Basquo on July 17, 2013, 09:27:42 pm

On a side note, I'm curious how these came back so quickly, but with Michael Jackson and Anna Nicole, it took weeks and over a month to get results.  Just curious why. 


I heard that the results were "rushed..."  and I'm guessing that's something that's possible in Canada but not in the US. Or may not feasible. Or maybe not profitable. Or maybe we just don't trust anything that doesn't take a jillion hoops to jump through or miles of red tape to wade through.
Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: mecch on July 18, 2013, 06:16:59 am

Instead of just making this about a celebrity, I'm curious how many have lost loved ones to addiction?  I have. 

Heroin and alcohol - 2
Coke and amphetamines - 1
Drank themselves to miserable life then death -  xx times
Smoked themselves to death - x times
Title: Re: Glee Star Found Dead
Post by: bocker3 on July 18, 2013, 08:02:07 am
I heard that the results were "rushed..."  and I'm guessing that's something that's possible in Canada but not in the US. Or may not feasible. Or maybe not profitable. Or maybe we just don't trust anything that doesn't take a jillion hoops to jump through or miles of red tape to wade through.

I'm not sure how your go about testing from a dead body, I'm pretty sure you don't just draw some blood.  However, I do know that once you have a sample to test -- it takes like 4 mins, max, to get an alcohol result.  I've never tested for heroin, but I suspect that this isn't all that time consuming either.  Other, less common drugs, may require more time, but not days.  I suspect the timing in cases like Michael Jackson, had a lot more to do with the legal implications, like chain of custody and other documentation - not too mention lawyers wanting to scrutinize results and protocols before results were released.

M