Author Topic: anxious ...? (Read 15501 times)

anku1987 · « **on:** April 19, 2010, 05:07:27 am »

i m male 23 from delhi on april 1st i had sex with a sexworker for the first time, i used a condom but it broke twice. everytime the condom broke the exposure lasted for only 3 to 5 seconds probably.i dont know whether the head of my penis was exposed in that short exposure time. i dont know her hiv status. we were also engaged in mouth kissing and she gave me brief oral too(unprotected). i don knw why the condom broke...probably i was putting it in wrong fashion. she ended up giving me a hand job.i did not ejaculate inside her at all, i am really worried about the incident...and have gone through internet for information ......my anxiety level and fear is pretty high ...unable to concentrate on my work and probably becoz of that i had fever with shivers on around 9th day after the exposure. i had never had sex before. i have lost my apetite...had strained watery eyes...and had headache and also had oral ulcer under my tounge on 14th day from the exposure...please help.... i have also read sum where which says...broken condom risk is same as risk of unprotected vaginal sex???

...i have sore throat also, but that is from the time before exposure....

Matty the Damned · « **Reply #1 on:** April 19, 2010, 05:15:50 am »

No, a broken condom really isn't the same level of risk as unprotected vaginal sex. You were protected up until the condom broke and really the level of risk here is very slight indeed.

But a risk is a risk and you should be tested for HIV 13 weeks from the date of this incident. I really think you'll test negative - HIV is difficult to transmit, particularly from female to male.

As you note the most likely reason the condom broke is because you did not use it correctly. Always use quality latex condoms which have not passed their expiry date and have been stored properly. Use only water based lubricants. No hand creams or lotions as oils will dissolve latex.

Symptoms are never an indicator of HIV status as many people who do contract HIV have no symtpoms of acute infection at all.

Please read our Welcome Thread and follow the links to our lessons on HIV testing and transmission.

MtD

anku1987 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 19, 2010, 05:26:52 am »

thanks a lot matty.....my anxiety level is very high and the fever on 10th day from exposure added fuel to my anxiety.....my friends say i have lost some weight also. can the test be done at 6th week ...as of now i m running in 3rd week from exposure..and waiting for another 10 more weeks is like hell...and does it increase my risk that my partner was a sex worker of unknown hiv status...!!! please reply..

Matty the Damned · « **Reply #3 on:** April 19, 2010, 06:00:21 am »

Quote from: anku1987 on April 19, 2010, 05:26:52 am

thanks a lot matty.....my anxiety level is very high and the fever on 10th day from exposure added fuel to my anxiety.....my friends say i have lost some weight also. can the test be done at 6th week ...as of now i m running in 3rd week from exposure..and waiting for another 10 more weeks is like hell...and does it increase my risk that my partner was a sex worker of unknown hiv status...!!! please reply..

Does it matter that your partner was a sex worker? No. HIV is all about what people do, not who they are.

Yes, you can test at 6 weeks and receive an excellent indicator of your HIV status as most people who will seroconvert do so somewhere between 4-6 weeks. Be aware that if you test negative at 6 weeks you will still need to have that result confirmed at 13 weeks.

I really expect that you will test negative.

MtD

anku1987 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 19, 2010, 07:55:27 am »

hi andy , your response over my situation...plzzzz help

Andy Velez · « **Reply #5 on:** April 19, 2010, 09:04:06 am »

Anku, I agree completely with what Matty has said to you. Although theoretically there was some risk because the condom broke, the risk was a very low one. HIV is a fragile virus and is not easily transmitted. It is significantly more difficult to transmit from female to male. Your potential exposure was very brief in your incident.

I do expect that you will test negative.

As for your "symptoms," there is nothing in any way HIV specific about them. If they persist you should discuss them with your doctor.

I understand that you are worried, but I do expect you will come out of this ok.

Cheers.

anku1987 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 19, 2010, 09:15:41 am »

thanks a lot andy for your reassuring words.....but i still fear as we were engaged in deep mouth kissing and she also gave me unprotected oral ....and the condom broke at the tip probably because of air .....!!!

Andy Velez · « **Reply #7 on:** April 19, 2010, 09:20:29 am »

Kissing is not a risk for HIV transmission. Receiving oral is one of the most common of sexual activities. In the entire history of the epidemic there has never been a single confirmed case of transmission in that manner to a guy. It's safe to say you aren't going to make history by becoming the first.

As for the condom break, it was an extremely low level risk.

While waiting to test at 6 weeks for an initial result,(if you decide to do that for your peace of mind), you are going to have to work hard on putting your attention on other things in your life. That will help the waiting to pass much more easily. And don't bother saying you are too worried to do that because I can tell you that response won't fly here.

Now, get on with your day. I expect you to come out of this ok.

anku1987 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 19, 2010, 04:02:25 pm »

i m waiting to get tested by 6 weeks...andy , wats the probability that i might have contracted the virus through broken condom....

Matty the Damned · « **Reply #9 on:** April 19, 2010, 04:09:43 pm »

Quote from: anku1987 on April 19, 2010, 04:02:25 pm

i m waiting to get tested by 6 weeks...andy , wats the probability that i might have contracted the virus through broken condom....

We have explained to you that the probability of your being infected is extremely low.

MtD

Andy Velez · « **Reply #10 on:** April 19, 2010, 04:15:39 pm »

Are you really reading what we are saying to you? It doesn't seem as if you are listening to anything other than your anxious thoughts.

We've already told you that you had a very low level risk and that we expect you to ultimately test negative. There's really nothing more to say beyond that. You just have to patient (or impatient) and wait until you can get tested.

anku1987 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 19, 2010, 04:23:00 pm »

as andy said hiv "specific symtoms" what does it mean.....fever with shivers , loss of apetite and fatigue oral ulcers are they not hiv related .....i got these symtoms on 9th day ( fever with shivers, fatigue strained eyes) and oral ulcer on 14th day from exposure....are these all anxiety related

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Matty the Damned · « **Reply #12 on:** April 19, 2010, 04:26:55 pm »

Quote from: anku1987 on April 19, 2010, 04:23:00 pm

as andy said hiv "specific symtoms" what does it mean.....fever with shivers , loss of apetite and fatigue oral ulcers are they not hiv related .....i got these symtoms on 9th day ( fever with shivers, fatigue strained eyes) and oral ulcer on 14th day from exposure....are these all anxiety related ?

Fever, fatigue, oral ulcers. These symptoms can be caused by just about anything. That's why we're saying the only way you'll know for sure is to be tested.

MtD

Andy Velez · « **Reply #13 on:** April 19, 2010, 10:16:33 pm »

No, we are not diagnosing your symptoms as "anxiety related." In fact we are not diagnosing anything here. We cannot do that in this setting. What we are telling you is that you had a very, very low level risk and that ultimately we expect you to test negative.

Your symptoms are something for you to discuss with your doctor.

anku1987 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 20, 2010, 08:34:11 am »

thanks a lot andy for your responce , jus wanted to know if u have come across any similar case of broken condom and the person ends up turning hiv+ in the end....

...and do ars symtoms possible on 9th day frm exposure and do they all come at once or sum ..or individually...

Andy Velez · « **Reply #15 on:** April 20, 2010, 09:23:39 am »

ARS symptoms come on all at one time and after a week or two are gone.

In my experience those who experience broken condom incidents such as yours end up being negative.

anku1987 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 20, 2010, 12:01:10 pm »

how much time after the exposure do ARS symtoms occur generally??

Andy Velez · « **Reply #17 on:** April 20, 2010, 01:33:48 pm »

The average time to seroconversion is 22 days.

anku1987 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 21, 2010, 01:00:50 pm »

how many weeks after potential exposure do ars symtoms generally appear....

Andy Velez · « **Reply #19 on:** April 21, 2010, 02:13:34 pm »

All but the very smallest number of those who are going to seroconvert will do so within 4-6 weeks after an exposure. If noticeable symptoms are going to appear it will be sometime during that period.

anku1987 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 12, 2010, 03:14:39 am »

hey andy
thanks a lot for your support and advice i tested at 6 and 8th weeks after my broken condom single exposure...and the results were negative.....but i m still undergoing the fears and anxiety ....what the chances that results may change ...at 12 week...

..3 to 4 weeks after the exposure i had high fever and soar throat ...and oral sores....i m worried these might be ARS....and i might be seroconverting ....wats the probability that a person may get converted after 8 weeks of neg result....really worried...!!!

Andy Velez · « **Reply #21 on:** June 12, 2010, 08:06:19 am »

Your risk was low begin with. Since you have those negative results including one at 8 weeks, it's a virtual slam dunk that you will continue to test negative.

None of the symptoms you are reporting are in anyway HIV specific. It's your mind going to town with your fears and doubts.

I fully expect you to test negative when you re-test.

Meantime get busy with other things in your life. It will help the time to pass more quickly than you may imagine is possible. And don't bother saying you're too worried to do that because that response wouldn't fly in here.

Cheers.

Ann · « **Reply #22 on:** June 13, 2010, 06:21:57 am »

anku,

If your fever at three to four weeks had anything to do with hiv, you would have tested positive at your eight week test. You didn't. Relax. You're going to continue to test negative over this incident.

Make sure you read through the condom and lube links in my signature line. A correctly used condom rarely breaks. Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann

anku1987 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 15, 2010, 03:04:20 am »

thanks a lot andy and ann for your valuable support

i m currently passing on with the 11th week....should i get tested....and is 11th week negative is consclusive...result ??..and i have also facing a problem of blurred vision from couple of weeks...is it something to do with hiv or ars...plz help

Ann · « **Reply #24 on:** June 15, 2010, 03:26:35 am »

anku,

A three month test is conclusive. You should wait another week for your conclusive result. I'm fully expecting it to be negative.

If your eyes are bothering you, see an eye doctor. There are hundreds of things that can affect your eyes, so get checked out. It's not hiv related.

Ann

anku1987 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 18, 2010, 08:45:29 am »

hey andy and ann..warm wishes..

i m really feeling very afraid....inspite of getting.... negative result at 6 weeks and 8 weeks....i doubt that these tests were done properly...as it took only few hours like arond 3 to 4 hrs for the lab results.....plz help...they said that they used elisa and card method...i have heard about elisa but..never heard of card method....!!...is card a relaible method...for hiv testing.....

Andy Velez · « **Reply #26 on:** June 18, 2010, 09:31:58 am »

That's probably the Rapid HIV card test which is being referred to. Yes, it is a reliable test.

You have a very brief time to wait until you can do the test. Take a breath, stop with all this drama. We continue to expect you to test negative.

anku1987 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 23, 2010, 06:45:38 am »

hey andy and ann

can i get my consclusive results on 85th day from the exposure..rather than waiting for another 5 days to complete 90 day mark...??..does that make much difference...it yes how much..??

Ann · « **Reply #28 on:** June 23, 2010, 08:50:47 am »

anku,

Three months = twelve weeks = 84 days. Yes, you can get a reliable, conclusive result at 85 days.

Ann

anku1987 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 26, 2010, 04:32:39 am »

hey ann. and andy

yesterday i got my result at 85th day after the broken condom single exposure...and result was negative...i m very much relieved ...do you guys think that i need further testing...or this can be considered as my consclusive result....thanks a lot for your support and advices...it really helped me to overcum my anxiousness.....

,,,god bless u guys..

Matty the Damned · « **Reply #30 on:** June 26, 2010, 04:47:57 am »

Anku,

As Ann has told you 85 days is sufficient for a conclusive negative result. You are HIV negative.

MtD

anku1987 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 30, 2010, 09:47:57 am »

hey andy ...

do i need to get tested at 6 months mark....i got negative at 85th from the date of broken condom exposure...

Ann · « **Reply #32 on:** June 30, 2010, 10:01:38 am »

anku,

We've already told you that 85 days is conclusive.

You are conclusively hiv negative. You do not have hiv and you do not need further testing over this broken condom.

As we repeatedly told you, you were never likely to end up positive over this.

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Please consider yourself warned!

Ann

anku1987 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 20, 2010, 05:40:17 am »

hey andy and ann...
thanks for your valuable support i had developed a small round firm sore at the base of my penis.similar to broken hair follicle....on 94th day from my exposure...i was terrified considering it to be syphillis sore...and arond on 102th day from the exposure i went for elisa hiv 1 ans 2 ...and syphilis card test (blood test ) both negative...but i read on internet that syphilis result can be false in its primary stage....and knowing the consequences of this diseasease i m really worried.....that i might affect me in future...plzz help.....does it links with hiv...

Matty the Damned · « **Reply #34 on:** July 20, 2010, 05:46:04 am »

Quote from: anku1987 on July 20, 2010, 05:40:17 am

hey andy and ann...
thanks for your valuable support i had developed a small round firm sore at the base of my penis.similar to broken hair follicle....on 94th day from my exposure...i was terrified considering it to be syphillis sore...and arond on 102th day from the exposure i went for elisa hiv 1 ans 2 ...and syphilis card test (blood test ) both negative...but i read on internet that syphilis result can be false in its primary stage....and knowing the consequences of this diseasease i m really worried.....that i might affect me in future...plzz help.....does it links with hiv...

As you have been told you are HIV negative. Your test results for HIV are conclusive.

The seroconversion period for syphilis is three months - the same as with HIV. The chancre associated with the primary stage of syphilis occurs much sooner than 94 days. I would suggest that your syphilis blood test result is conclusively negative.

We are an HIV specific site, if you have further questions about STDs other than HIV you should speak to your doctor.

MtD

anku1987 · « **Reply #35 on:** March 13, 2012, 04:40:26 am »

i was in thailand for ma vacation last week i had 4 sexual encounters:

1. had a soapy massage with the a women in the same tub and then followed by some lip kissess and then sucking and protected intercourse i was lil worried that my condom might have broken ( god knows how that came in ma mind) but got it confirmed by the lady, as she showed me the condom itself and also assured me that she would have come to know much earlier if it had broken, hiv status of the lady is unknown... and condom too had no spill when she showed it to me.

2. another soapy massage, no kissing , only blowjob with condom and sucking. only possible threat to me was her saliva on condom...don knw if condom broke or not....i guess it didnt..!!

3. penetrated another women with condom, for very short tym may be around a minute and then finished up with a blowjob with same condom...came inside her mouth....checked up condom found no spills...probably and neither did lady complain abt it...

4. had another blowjob with condom and finished with a handjob with condom on it...sucked her breasts, and probably condom didnt broke at any point becoz i didnt found any spill...

is it possible that i might have contracted hiv or anything through these encounters???...feeling very axious..and scared abt it...

RapidRod · « **Reply #36 on:** March 13, 2012, 04:54:47 am »

Please do not start a new thread every time you have another question or thought - regardless if you think your questions are related to each other or not. It helps us to help you when you keep all your thoughts or questions in one thread and it helps other readers to follow the discussion. Additional threads will be merged.

If you cannot find your thread, click on the "Show own posts" link in the left-hand column of any forum page, under your name.

anku1987 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 13, 2012, 05:55:08 am »

regards to entire team

plzzz reply ...i m very scared and axious abt the whole incidents happend over the vacation, though i used condoms on every occasion and i m pretty sure neither did it break at any incident....but i m really very afraid...what would have been chances of contracting anythin even if it broke in all four incidents... $:-\$

..really eed your support

Ann · « **Reply #38 on:** March 13, 2012, 08:58:06 am »

Anku,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep everything in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

Quote from: anku1987 on March 13, 2012, 04:40:26 am

i was in thailand for ma vacation last week i had 4 sexual encounters:

1. had a soapy massage with the a women in the same tub and then followed by some lip kissess and then sucking and protected intercourse i was lil worried that my condom might have broken ( god knows how that came in ma mind) but got it confirmed by the lady, as she showed me the condom itself and also assured me that she would have come to know much earlier if it had broken, hiv status of the lady is unknown... and condom too had no spill when she showed it to me.

2. another soapy massage, no kissing , only blowjob with condom and sucking. only possible threat to me was her saliva on condom...don knw if condom broke or not....i guess it didnt..!!

3. penetrated another women with condom, for very short tym may be around a minute and then finished up with a blowjob with same condom...came inside her mouth....checked up condom found no spills...probably and neither did lady complain abt it...

4. had another blowjob with condom and finished with a handjob with condom on it...sucked her breasts, and probably condom didnt broke at any point becoz i didnt found any spill...

is it possible that i might have contracted hiv or anything through these encounters???...feeling very axious..and scared abt it...

1. No risk for hiv infection. Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection. There have been three long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

2. Again no risk. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Broken condoms are very obvious. You would KNOW if the condom broke. No doubt about it.

3. No risk. Getting a blowjob, with or without a condom is absolutely NOT a risk for hiv infection. Nobody has ever been infected by getting blown and you aren't going to be the first.

4. NO RISK! Sucking a woman's breasts is not a risk for hiv infection.

You have not had a risk for hiv infection in any of the activities you engaged in. You did the important thing and used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse. That's all you need to do.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY OVER ANYTHING YOU BROUGHT TO US, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE!!!!

Ann

anku1987 · « **Reply #39 on:** March 13, 2012, 09:27:01 am »

thanks a lot for your assessment over ma situation...

i am lil worried about the 1 and 3 incident in which the lady sucked ma penis with condom on it and later i had vaginal sex in both the cases but for very short span of time may be for a minute or two..the thing that worries me is that the ladies might have damaged the condom while performing blowjobs and i ended up having vaginal sex with same condoms on ma penis...i might have contracted something if any of them was hiv +. both of them were professional sex workers in thailand. to ma knowledge condom did not broke in either cases. becoz i din see any semen spill.. $:-\$

Ann · « **Reply #40 on:** March 13, 2012, 09:34:57 am »

Anku,

As I said before, a broken condom is VERY obvious. You WOULD know.

Your condoms didn't break so you were not at risk. Relax already. You did the right thing and used condoms so put this behind you and move on with your life.

Ann

anku1987 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 14, 2012, 03:11:09 am »

thanks ann...for your kind reassuring words...

another small thing that struck ma mind was ...in the 4th incident while i was trying to undress the girl, i got a small cut on ma middle finger and i guess drops of blood ozzed out frm it...not a deep cut, but a very small cut probably from her bra hooks...i used that hand to caress her body, press her boobs and probably might have touched ma penis with her saliva on ma condom, she din allow me to touch her vagina , so i never fingered her.. i there any possible threat with this cut on ma finger ....

anku

anku1987 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 14, 2012, 03:11:55 am »

do i have any risk .....or do i need to get tested over it...

jkinatl2 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 14, 2012, 03:29:12 am »

Quote from: anku1987 on March 14, 2012, 03:11:55 am

do i have any risk .....or do i need to get tested over it...

Absolutely not.

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