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Risk Lever???
« on: August 09, 2008, 07:26:37 am »
Need help. Been visiting this forum for 3 months looking for answer to my question. None available.Here my scenario.My condition at that point of time. I just done tooth extraction,leaving me with open wound on my gum.At that time, I meet with a gal with unknown status.To keep thing short. We have oral sex. I start of with deep fingering her vagina and proceed with deep tongue oral sex to her vagina.she given me a blowjob too(unprotected). then proceed with sliding my penis(cant recalled do i have a blister on my penis) along her vagina opening till i ejaculated. it lasted at 20 to 30mins.

What risk level to do I have?(as I hv open wound on my gum n could hv a slight blister on my penis)
What are my risk lever and the reasons for the risk lever?since the incident i cant get my life straighten n too scared to do a test.

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Re: Risk Lever???
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2008, 07:52:09 am »
Andre,

You didn't have a risk and everything you're worried about has been discussed in this forum repeatedly.

Going down on a woman is not a risk.

Fingering is not a risk.

Getting a blowjob is not a risk.

Frottage (sliding your penis along her vagina opening) is not a risk.

You had no risk.

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Re: Risk Lever???
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2008, 08:24:12 am »
thanks Ann. just wondering, although i have open wound on my gum due to tooth extraction and might be believed to have blister on my penis? I'm at no risk. this will be my final question. thank you in advance Ann.

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Re: Risk Lever???
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2008, 12:48:41 pm »
andre,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I rather doubt you would have been kissing anybody anywhere if you had just had a tooth extraction that very day. I've had tooth extractions in the past myself and I know how painful they are. If it were the same day, you would have been in too much pain. The body begins to heal very quickly and I don't believe your extraction wound would have been anything to worry about.

And here's why:

Hiv transmission doesn't stand a chance of happening via female genitals to mouth - there are just too many obstacles on the oral route.

The first obstacle is the mouth itself. The mouth is a veritable fortress, standing against all sorts of pathogens we come into contact with every minute of our lives. It's a very hostile environment and saliva has been shown to contain over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv.

Hiv is a very fragile virus - literally. Its outer surface doesn't take kindly to changes in its preferred environment; slight changes in temperature, moisture content and pH levels all damage the outer surface. Importantly, it needs this outer surface to be intact before it can latch onto a few, very specific cell types and infect. 

Which leads to the second obstacle. Hiv can only latch onto certain types of cells, cells which are not found in abundance in the mouth.

The third obstacle to transmission this way is having hiv present in the first place. The female secretion where hiv has been shown to be present is the cervicovaginal fluid. This fluid is actually a thick mucus that covers and protects the cervix.

The fluid a woman produces when sexually excited comes from the Bartholin's glands, located on either side of the vaginal opening. I have yet to discover one shred of evidence (and believe me, I've looked) that shows this lubricating fluid to have any more hiv present than other bodily secretions such as saliva, sweat or tears. Saliva, sweat and tears are NOT infectious fluids.

So there you have it. Once the results of the serodiscordant studies started rolling in, what we know about hiv transmission on the cellular level was validated. The only people who were getting infected were those who had unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. Period. One of the three studies went on for ten years and involved hundreds of couples. That's a lot of nookie.

As for the blister on your penis, for a start, what the hell are you doing rubbing a blister on your penis on anyone else's body? Or getting a blowjob when you've got a blister? Not that I'm concerned about your safety where hiv is concerned, but because you could be spreading herpes or even syphilis to your sex partner. Do you even know what the blister was? From what you say, you aren't even sure if you had a blister at the time. Don't come here talking about exposing other people to goodness knows what then expect sympathy.

Putting the odious nature of you rubbing your blister on this woman's genitals aside, you weren't at risk for hiv via this - even if you did have a blister - because one, it took place outside the body. Two, re-read what I said above about the fluid a woman produces when sexually excited.

In future, make absolutely certain you're keeping your blisters to yourself. Can you tell this blister-sharing behaviour really makes my blood boil?

Ann
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