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miguel lopez · « **on:** October 25, 2006, 01:11:15 am »

please help. first of all i am a 19 year old male on sep 17th my birthday me and a couple of buddies visited a strip club and i received a lap dance from a dancer we went into a little dark room and she gave me a dance and then asked me to pull out my penis and stupid me did she put my shirt over my penis and then grinded on it and then she pulled it out again and i dont know what she did but i think she massaged her vagina with it i couldnt see and i also dont know if it penetrated her im guessing that i would known if i penetrated right then i ejaculated but i ejaculated under my shirt not on her she found out that i ejaculated and got really pissed off and i left really embarrased. a week and a half i talked to a std doctor and got tested for every std posible but tested negative for everything and my doctor told me to forget about everything that happend but ive been having these real small pimples like half an inch under my penis i pinch them and they get bigger there only two but there really small one of them is very small. should i get tested for hiv and any other std please help i go to school but im going to have to quit because i can get this off my head

miguel lopez · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2006, 01:32:17 am »

the dance lasted about 2 minutes the rubiing less than 20 seconds

Ann · « **Reply #2 on:** October 25, 2006, 05:02:26 am »

Miguel,

Please don't use the PM function to ask questions. Keep all your questions in your thread here in the forum.

You didn't have a risk of hiv infection, not by any stretch of the imagination. Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. You did not have intercourse and hiv will not pass through an item of clothing and remain able to infect. Like I said, it is a very fragile virus.

Along with reading through the Welcome Thread and following the lessons links found there, here's what else you need to know to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs. You don't need to start having regular check ups until you become sexually active and having intercourse, so this is something for you to keep in mind for the future.

When you do become active, as long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

You don't need to test for hiv over this lapdance incident. As for the pimples or any other bumps on your penis, we cannot diagnose that for you, but we can tell you that it has nothing to do with hiv. Show them to your doctor if you are worried about them. Chances are good they are just normal bumps that appear on genitals from time to time - but you never noticed before because you weren't inspecting your penis as intently before. Only a doctor can tell you for sure. Oh, and STOP pinching them! That won't help no matter what they are.

You had no risk of hiv infection during your lapdance.

Ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2006, 10:06:53 pm »

i went to the doctor and told me that he couldnt tell what it was the two small pimples and he is a specialist in stds so he told me to do a biopsy to see if it was genital warts but i couldnt afford it but i think they may be herpes could i have aquired this virus from this incident also i wanted to know i have never had sex before do you think that if i were to penetrate the lady i would of known right i wasnt drunk i havent had any symptoms of aids or any std just those small pimples that i have
Ann do you think i should re test for herpes for the two very small pimples i have half inch under my penis head they dont look like warts but my doctor wants me to test for hpv he couldnt tell what they were

Ann · « **Reply #4 on:** October 26, 2006, 03:53:19 am »

Miguel,

Yes, I would imagine that you would know if you achieved penetration. Besides, you said you were covered by your shirt. You could not have penetrated her under those circumstances.

As for those bumps on your penis, I would suggest you do what the doctor asks. By the sounds of it, it is unlikely to be herpes as herpes tends to be quite painful. Genital warts are generally painless. Whatever is going on, it has nothing to do with hiv.

You did not have a risk of hiv infection.

Ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #5 on:** October 27, 2006, 03:22:51 am »

Ann so you still think i shouldnt get tested.When this incident happend i only remember just her graving my penis and massaging it on her vagina but i dont know if it really happend and know my anxiety is making me think i briefly penetrated her that she sat on it or something but idont know if it really happend i doubt it.But i remeber this that when she pulled out my penis she coverd it and when i ejaculated i came under my shirt.if i never tought in penetration could i have penetrated her without me knowing i know this sounds stupid but my anxiety is killing me.
Ann i wanted to thank you for the help you have given me and sorry for bugging you because of my stupidity.

Ann · « **Reply #6 on:** October 27, 2006, 07:54:44 am »

Miguel,

You can ask the same questions over and over and over again, but the answers aren't going to change. Go read the answers you've already been given because I don't have anything new to say to your latest post.

You didn't have a risk of hiv infection during your lap dance.

Ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2006, 02:35:27 am »

if i penetrated her once half way would it be a risk for hiv infection

Ann · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2006, 10:03:30 am »

Miguel,

If you penetrate ANYONE without a condom on your penis, you are putting yourself at risk of hiv infection.

However, I fail to see how you could have possibly penetrated this woman during a lap dance while your shirt was covering your penis. This is exactly WHY she covered your penis - so this wouldn't happen. Don't you think SHE would have noticed - and said something - if you had penetrated her?

You need to stop dwelling on this non-risk lapdance and move on with your life. No kidding.

Ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2006, 02:57:18 pm »

youre right Ann but do you think i did put myself at risk for any other std

Andy Velez · « **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2006, 05:07:02 pm »

Miguel, we're going around in circles here with the circle now going back to other STDs.

You had that checked out by your doctor. If you have any further doubts about other STDs you should be discussing that with your doctor. We know from what you have reported that HIV is not an issue in relation to this incident.

Becoming sexually active is very exciting. It can also stir up a lot of anxiety and I suspect that's what is happening with you.

Just proceed sexually at a pace that is comfortable for you and always, ALWAYS use a condom if you have intercourse.

This time out I don't see any cause for further concern.

Cheers,

miguel lopez · « **Reply #11 on:** October 29, 2006, 10:26:09 am »

see but what you guys dont understand is that at one point in the lap dance my penis was actually skin to skin contact with her vagina not under my shirt she pulled it out and then i pulled it back in

Ann · « **Reply #12 on:** October 29, 2006, 10:50:12 am »

Miguel,

Look mate, if you penetrated her, not only would YOU have known, but she would have known as well and would probably have jumped away and said something. Just rubbing up against a vagina is NOT a risk for hiv infection.

Go and test if it makes you happy, just don't feel too surprised after you've wasted your money to get a negative result for a no risk incident.

Ann

Andy Velez · « **Reply #13 on:** October 29, 2006, 11:33:51 am »

See, but what you don't understand Miguel is that we have read very carefully what you wrote and we do have a clear picture of what you've reported. You were not at risk.

This is all about stuff inside your head. You were not at risk. No kidding.

Cheers,

miguel lopez · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2006, 01:27:04 am »

thanks andy and ann this makes me fell much better in regards of hiv but im still concern about those pimples in my penis . Do you think that my std screening at 10 days after the exposure is reliable enough or should i do another one

Ann · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2006, 06:11:55 am »

Miguel,

If you are concerned about your penis, take it with you and show it to a doctor. We cannot possibly tell you what is going on with it. If the pimples you're worried about were not present when you had your check up, then the doctor wouldn't have been able to comment on them then.

Ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #16 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:22:02 am »

i had a blood test for herpes it would of detected herpes?

Andy Velez · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30, 2006, 11:44:26 am »

More going around in circles here, Miguel.

You were tested for herpes. Presumably you have tested negative for it. I don't know why you would be doubting the result, but if you have further concerns about it call you doctor and discuss that.

Our focus here is primarily about HIV.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #18 on:** October 30, 2006, 12:18:01 pm »

im doubting the result because i had the test 10 days after my exposure and i have two pimples under the head of my penis

Andy Velez · « **Reply #19 on:** October 30, 2006, 12:38:45 pm »

Call your doctor to discuss this, Miguel. We cannot diagnose anything here.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #20 on:** October 30, 2006, 03:43:36 pm »

andy if i were to just penetrate her once which i doubt my self how big of risk would it be

miguel lopez · « **Reply #21 on:** October 30, 2006, 06:27:23 pm »

all right let me get this straight its possible to get other stds and not be at risk of hiv

Andy Velez · « **Reply #22 on:** October 30, 2006, 06:51:25 pm »

Yes Miguel, you could be at risk for other STDs even if you weren't at risk for HIV. A number of them are much easier to contract and can happen through skin to skin or mouth to mouth or mouth to skin contact.

Whereas with HIV there has to an exchange of certain body fluids such as semen, cervical secretions or blood.

From what you have described you did not have intercourse during the episode which you are concerned about which is why Ann and I don't see any risk for HIV.

As far as other STDs are concerned you need to discuss that with your doctor.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #23 on:** October 30, 2006, 10:46:05 pm »

i wonder how hospitals check for hiv when someone donates blood if there like a week after there infection how do they detect hiv

RapidRod · « **Reply #24 on:** October 31, 2006, 04:09:02 am »

You planning on needing blood? Contact the lab/blood unit of the hospital and ask?

miguel lopez · « **Reply #25 on:** October 31, 2006, 09:45:14 am »

this is a serious question

RapidRod · « **Reply #26 on:** October 31, 2006, 09:55:04 am »

My answer was meant to be serious. We have no way of knowing the testing procedures for each and every lab. Call them and ask, if you want to know the answer.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #27 on:** October 31, 2006, 10:47:39 am »

but how can they detect hiv before 3 months
is it posible

miguel lopez · « **Reply #28 on:** October 31, 2006, 12:04:58 pm »

ok let me get this straight from what i describe i couldnt of had gotten infected from hiv but any other std yes is this correct

RapidRod · « **Reply #29 on:** October 31, 2006, 12:54:47 pm »

No that is not correct. In what you described by getting your lap dance you weren't at risk for anything.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #30 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:05:31 pm »

dude i have a pimple it was barely visible and showed it to my doctor ant didnt know what it was but i have never had pimples in my penis before if its a pimple i dont know and i taught you get a std from skin to skin contact and i think i did

miguel lopez · « **Reply #31 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:06:48 pm »

dude sorry for bothering you but just want to get some info so i dont sweat it
as much but i have checked online and it doesnt look like herpes or genital warts and i have had them for a month or so and dont change in sieze only when i pinch them they get red but there painless.dude and i already tested for herpes and came back negative but i tested 10 days after my exposure is that reliable

RapidRod · « **Reply #32 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:27:52 pm »

Herpes do not look like pimples. You don't get them from a lap dance and since you've had a negative result that means you have never been infected previously and you don't have them now.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #33 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:29:40 pm »

but is a 10 day test after exposure reliable

Ann · « **Reply #34 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:32:09 pm »

Miguel,

If you have questions about your herpes test or the pimples on your penis, you are going to have to go talk to the doctor again. We cannot tell you what sort of tests you were given or what the pimples are. Only the doctor you have been seeing can.

This is an hiv forum and I'd thank you to stay on topic - although you did not have a risk of hiv infection and as such, there is nothing more we can do for you here.

Ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #35 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:37:51 pm »

you got it ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #36 on:** October 31, 2006, 05:35:09 pm »

can anyone answer me what are the chances of me bein infected if i had just penetrated the stripper once briefly but not deep

RapidRod · « **Reply #37 on:** October 31, 2006, 05:40:59 pm »

From the number of spins you are putting on your story, just test, collect you negative result and move on.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #38 on:** October 31, 2006, 05:42:59 pm »

do you think i should test

RapidRod · « **Reply #39 on:** October 31, 2006, 05:44:48 pm »

No, just like you have been told in previous threads.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #40 on:** October 31, 2006, 05:49:26 pm »

answer me this please rapidrod when i got this lap dance my pants were on i just pulled out my zipper it would of been hard form me to pentrate right

RapidRod · « **Reply #41 on:** October 31, 2006, 06:05:36 pm »

Yes and if you would have pentrated her you wouldn't be here typing asking questions. She would have knocked your head off.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #42 on:** October 31, 2006, 06:19:16 pm »

no i never tried to penetrate her

miguel lopez · « **Reply #43 on:** October 31, 2006, 06:23:10 pm »

she was the one playing around with my penis thats what i think

miguel lopez · « **Reply #44 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:18:58 pm »

dude this is weird because i remember hiding my penis so there wasnt contact with her vagina after frottage or whatever but i doubt i have penetrated her because i tought about it (hiv) when i got home not right after i received the lap dance

RapidRod · « **Reply #45 on:** October 31, 2006, 07:34:07 pm »

What more do you want us to say? You didn't have a risk, but if you want to test go ahead and test. There is nothing more to add.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #46 on:** November 01, 2006, 10:53:37 am »

what im guessing is that if i penetrated her she would have had sex with me all the way and if i penetrated her once she would of said something. she never said nothing

miguel lopez · « **Reply #47 on:** November 02, 2006, 12:34:44 am »

does any one have a comment on this

RapidRod · « **Reply #48 on:** November 02, 2006, 12:51:54 am »

When no one longer comments on a post, it's because there is nothing more to add. You were told you didn't have a risk and if you want to test go right ahead and collect your negative result. There is nothing more to add.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #49 on:** November 02, 2006, 02:15:49 pm »

rapidrose are u a doctor or something how do you know so much about aids

RapidRod · « **Reply #50 on:** November 02, 2006, 02:21:06 pm »

I'm a Paramedic have been since 1973, diagnosis with HIV in 1984, was a LTNP for 20 years 11 months. Developed AIDS classification in 2005.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #51 on:** November 02, 2006, 02:23:13 pm »

whats a LTNP sorry for my ignorance

RapidRod · « **Reply #52 on:** November 02, 2006, 02:34:24 pm »

Long Term Non Progressor. CD4 stayed above 1400 and viral load stayed in the low hundreds or undetectable.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #53 on:** November 02, 2006, 05:09:39 pm »

i dont understand how rapidrod said i wasnt at risk of any std if i believe there was rubbing of genitals

RapidRod · « **Reply #54 on:** November 02, 2006, 05:32:30 pm »

Give it a break Lopez, if you want to test then test, collect your negative results and move on. 50+ posts is a plenty for a non risk situation.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #55 on:** November 03, 2006, 04:06:02 pm »

should i consider my herpes blood test after ten days after my exposure conclusive

RapidRod · « **Reply #56 on:** November 03, 2006, 04:42:04 pm »

It usually takes any where from 2 day to 3 weeks. So it is up to you.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #57 on:** November 03, 2006, 04:46:03 pm »

rapidrod you told me that from what i said in my first post i couldnt of aquired any std is that correct i never had sex before

RapidRod · « **Reply #58 on:** November 03, 2006, 05:10:50 pm »

I was just answering your question. I didn't say anything about your non risk situation. You said you took a test for herpes and wanted to know if it was conclusive. I just gave you the incubation period of gential herpes.

Ann · « **Reply #59 on:** November 03, 2006, 07:00:54 pm »

Miguel,

This is an hiv website. If you have specific questions about other sexually transmitted infections, information is only a Google click away.

It really is unlikely that you would have become infected with anything during the lapdance you describe. While it's normal to become somewhat apprehensive when first having sexual experiences, what you are putting yourself through is beyond the scope of this forum. You might want to seriously think about going over some of your sexual anxieties with a qualified counselor before it takes over your life. Sex is a normal part of the human experience and as long as you use condoms when you (eventually) have intercourse, you will most likely remain infection free. It really is that simple.

If you've read through the Welcome thread like I asked you to do in my first reply to you, then you'll know that we give time outs to people who continually post about a no risk incident, such as yours. Please consider yourself warned. You did not have a risk of hiv infection and there is nothing more we can do for you here.

Ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #60 on:** November 06, 2006, 02:02:44 pm »

ann im going to take a 8 weet past exposure test if i get a negative result im going to move on. i wanted to ask if test at home urine test is reliable

miguel lopez · « **Reply #61 on:** November 06, 2006, 02:50:27 pm »

help me out on this one and i wont post anymore

Ann · « **Reply #62 on:** November 06, 2006, 02:54:48 pm »

miguel,

There is no approved "at home urine test" for hiv available.

You didn't have a risk and you do not need to test. One more post and I'll have to give you a time out.

Ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #63 on:** November 15, 2006, 09:48:52 pm »

I JUST TESTED NEGATIVE AT 65 DAYS AFTER MY EXPOSURE WITH A FDA APPROVED HOME TESTING KIT HOW RELIABLE IS THIS

Ann · « **Reply #64 on:** November 16, 2006, 06:56:26 am »

Miguel,

Considering you didn't have a risk to begin with, you can consider that test conclusive. You are hiv negative.

Ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #65 on:** November 23, 2006, 07:53:51 pm »

what difference is there with a home testing kit and a test from a clinic is there more false negatives in home testing

RapidRod · « **Reply #66 on:** November 23, 2006, 08:32:30 pm »

Done at the correct time line there are not more false negatives. Why are you still letting yourself be bothered by a non risk situation?

Queen Tokelove · « **Reply #67 on:** November 23, 2006, 10:29:38 pm »

Miguel,

I have just been looking over your posts and understand your concern. It sounds to me that you have done the STD tests and everything came back negative. As far as the pimples on your penis, your doctor gave you a course of action to take, so why not get that done so you won't have that worry nagging you.

Take the stripper situation as a lesson learned and maybe next time be better prepared. Which means, carry some condoms on you the next time you go to a strip club. I hope everything works out for you....

miguel lopez · « **Reply #68 on:** November 24, 2006, 01:09:05 am »

so theres no false negatives if done at the correct time so my negative result could be a false negative because it wasnt done at the correct time

RapidRod · « **Reply #69 on:** November 24, 2006, 05:48:46 am »

This is my last post I'll answer to you. You didn't need to test, you didn't have a risk. Now if you can't get that through your head then seek the help of a mental health professional.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #70 on:** November 27, 2006, 08:06:15 pm »

are home acces test reliable at 9 weeks
knowing that it uses 1st generation technology
also which is more common in aquiring from frottage herpes or hpv or mocussolum

miguel lopez · « **Reply #71 on:** November 27, 2006, 11:49:12 pm »

this coming thursday is my 12 week mark im not sure if im going to test but if i decide to should i still retest with the home acces

miguel lopez · « **Reply #72 on:** November 28, 2006, 02:52:02 pm »

if i really had a risk what are the probabilities that me 9 week negative test changed

Ann · « **Reply #73 on:** November 28, 2006, 03:51:22 pm »

Miguel,

You really didn't have a risk. Even if you had, your nine week test would be most unlikely to change.

If you insist on continuing to post over this no-risk event, I will have to give you a time out to encourage you to seek some counseling for your hiv fears. Please read through the Welcome Thread and take note of our forum posting guidelines. I won't warn you again.

You are hiv negative and there is nothing more we can do for you here.

Ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #74 on:** November 29, 2006, 12:50:30 am »

sorry ann i just had to ask one last question i just found out about a site medhelp a doctor considers all 6 week tests final and conclusive is he crazy or what

miguel lopez · « **Reply #75 on:** November 29, 2006, 11:35:54 pm »

nobody has nothing to comment about dr. hhh saying that 6 weeks is 95-99%reliable is that true?

miguel lopez · « **Reply #76 on:** November 30, 2006, 08:25:13 pm »

I just wanted to add a comment in regards to the 6 week window period in Massachusetts. I spoke with the AIDS Action hotline on the phone and they stated that ANY standard antibody test is conclusive at 6 weeks including Home Access. As joeworried stated, the only thing that would make it take longer than 6 weeks is if your immune system is compromised in some way. The bottom line is that unless your immune system is compromised (you would know if it was), you can rely on a 6 week negative from Home Access. I hope this is reassuring. Stay safe!

HIVworker · « **Reply #77 on:** November 30, 2006, 09:08:49 pm »

Sorry, this 75+ post over a nothing incident has to end....

miguel lopez · « **Reply #78 on:** December 01, 2006, 10:45:50 am »

ann one last question even if my penis bump is an std you sitll believe i didnt have an hiv risk

Ann · « **Reply #79 on:** December 01, 2006, 12:25:12 pm »

Miguel,

I warned you on November 28th that you would be given a time out if you persisted in using this forum to wring your hands over this no risk lap-dance.

You have ignored everything we've said to you and posted four more times since your warning. I am now giving you a four week time out during which you will not be able to post. This is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help you need with your anxiety. We can do no more for you here.

Do not create a new account to get around your time out. If you do, you will be permanently banned, no questions asked.

Ann

miguel lopez · « **Reply #80 on:** January 23, 2007, 02:58:37 pm »

after i was banned from this forum i believed i was ne gative unltil these past few weeks my mind started playing games in my head so i decided to get tested again. i will get my results today and im very scared to hear a positive result. dr h in medhelp told me i didnt need testing just like this forum and also like my doctor but i want to settle this once in for all.

ACinKC · « **Reply #81 on:** January 23, 2007, 03:08:46 pm »

You have already tested negative once, been told by not one but TWO Doctors (not to mention the experts on this site) that you didnt need to get tested in the first place and you somehow think that another test will be the thing that helps put your mind at ease?

My suggestion is to talk to a mental help professional and really find out whats causing this anxiety.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #82 on:** January 23, 2007, 03:12:27 pm »

i tested negative in my 9th week is this reliable enough

ACinKC · « **Reply #83 on:** January 23, 2007, 03:33:06 pm »

Not that you are going to listen to me, but yes for YOUR incident it is.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #84 on:** January 23, 2007, 03:35:06 pm »

so i can expect a negative result today right
if i do im going to move on and continue with school and see if i can get get financial aid again because i had to quit

ACinKC · « **Reply #85 on:** January 23, 2007, 03:42:06 pm »

Jeeez man. How many different ways can I say it.

You are negative. The result is accurate at the 9 week point for YOU because you didnt have a risk. And yes you will get another negative as long as there were no other ACTUAL risks between then and now.

I suggest you seek a mental health professional to help you with your anxieties.

miguel lopez · « **Reply #86 on:** January 23, 2007, 03:59:10 pm »

no i havent had any risk after that incident
this is stressing me even more i tought i was going to get my results today because it says on the box that you get results the next day and i sent my blood yesterday but they say they havent received them so this is stressing me allot

miguel lopez · « **Reply #87 on:** January 23, 2007, 04:03:44 pm »

i forgot to mention this but i talked to the stripper with the lady who i think i had a risk with and she told me that she didnt remember me but that she has never had sex with anyone in the strip club and if im infected with something it wasnt from her but i dont know why but i couldnt believe her

ACinKC · « **Reply #88 on:** January 23, 2007, 04:47:24 pm »

Cause you dont believe ANYONE?

miguel lopez · « **Reply #89 on:** January 23, 2007, 04:54:30 pm »

but what if i penetrated her

ACinKC · « **Reply #90 on:** January 23, 2007, 05:02:30 pm »

Ann already addressed this. You didnt and she wouldnt have let you and your shirt was covering it up.

You are getting close to a permanent ban on this site I feel. You have tested NEGATIVE, you have been told by 2 doctors it wasnt an issue and all the experts on this site. What part of that dont you get?

miguel lopez · « **Reply #91 on:** January 23, 2007, 08:39:57 pm »

i just received my 19th past exposure hiv test and it was negative

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