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Author Topic: Prp cosmetic treatment  (Read 4763 times)

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Offline Pozitivist

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Prp cosmetic treatment
« on: July 11, 2015, 06:05:27 am »
Hi , i am on truvada stocrin treatment and ud, with 530 cd4 , i am thinking of having a facial prp çözmeyin treatment, any opinion on side effects with hıv?

Offline mecch

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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2015, 05:48:02 pm »
Something is lost in the typing, what are you referring to?
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Offline zach

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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2015, 09:39:56 pm »
are you turkish?

prp = platelet-rich plasma?

çözmeyin = to solve?

i agree with mecch, not enough detail to what you're trying to say for us to help at this point

if i went way out on a limb... are you trying to treat facial wasting?

honestly, i feel like you're trying to ask a question that may be better posed to your doctor

Offline Pozitivist

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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2015, 05:08:22 am »
Oh thank you,  Yes i was writing a cosmetic facial prp platalet rich plazma treatment .  And iasked the doctor and she said the treatment as they are injecting my own blood MAY awake the latent sleeping cells that the drugs can not affect normally.. So they may be termimated as Well which can lead a bonus of10 % less vl.

Offline DANIELtakashi

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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2015, 05:13:31 am »
Hi,

Wait a minite.
What is it all about?
Could you explain it more?
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Offline zach

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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2015, 06:53:06 am »
Oh thank you,  Yes i was writing a cosmetic facial prp platalet rich plazma treatment .  And iasked the doctor and she said the treatment as they are injecting my own blood MAY awake the latent sleeping cells that the drugs can not affect normally.. So they may be termimated as Well which can lead a bonus of10 % less vl.

Specific question, but you didn't answer... is the procedure to treat facial wasting (lipoatrophy)?

If yes,
http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/FacialWasting/Q226480.html

It has NOT been shown to be an effective treatment for lipoatrophy.

However, I'm reading your reasoning as an attempt to reawaken dormant reservoirs of HIV.

That's loosely referred to as "kick and kill". I'm finding absolutely NO references to the procedure being used for that.

All that said... I'm not a doctor, just googling around.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but am I right that English isn't your first language? I worry that something is lost in translation here, our communication is imperfect at best, misguided confusion at worst. I really feel this is best left between you and your doctor. Just my opinion.

Are you on HIV meds? They are what will get your viral load to Undetectable level. Not some novel off label use of a cosmetic procedure.


Offline DANIELtakashi

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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2015, 07:03:11 am »
I was also confused with the two different things you had mentioned, one the cosmetic treatment and the other the kick and kill thing.  Those two are not related to each other.
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Offline mecch

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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2015, 02:12:21 pm »
what is "cosmetic" about that?

I'm sorry I don't understand what is being offered to you.  :(
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Offline DANIELtakashi

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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2015, 07:51:33 am »
Pozivisit,

I hope that you will talk with your doctor and make this thing clear.
I don't mean to be rude.   Not having a clear understanding is sometimes an obstacle.
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Offline Grasshopper

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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2015, 04:12:47 am »
Oh thank you,  Yes i was writing a cosmetic facial prp platalet rich plazma treatment .  And iasked the doctor and she said the treatment as they are injecting my own blood MAY awake the latent sleeping cells that the drugs can not affect normally.. So they may be termimated as Well which can lead a BONUS of10 % less vl.

* Patient wants a facial treatment.

* The 10% lower VL outcome is secondary ( note use of words  "may"  &  " bonus" )

 :P

Offline mecch

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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2015, 10:27:11 am »
Sounds great.  Can I have one too?  ;D
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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2015, 02:37:59 pm »
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10% lower VL outcome
just what does this even mean? who (what patient and what doctor) is doing cosmetic surgery WITH a viral load above undetectable? who measures viral load in percentages? Just what is a 10% drop? (if you have a viral load of 100, after surgery you'd have 90? having a viral load of 1 million you'd lose 100,000? Being UD, you remain UD or still lose 10% for a negative viral load??) How are they even measuring viral load reservoirs to determine that viral load drop?
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Offline zach

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Re: Prp cosmetic treatment
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2015, 10:56:51 pm »
at what point will someone...

ah screw it... i'll do it i guess, why not

this sounds bogus man, yellow card and red flags all over the place

if you want to have a cosmetic procedure to reduce scars or wrinkles... go ahead

but it doesn't treat facial wasting syndrome, and it won't have any added therapeutic effect on HIV.... thats nonsense

sounds like a plastic doctor is trying to blow smoke to up sell his services

 


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