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Title: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 22, 2007, 10:02:51 am
I have had all the symptoms u can think of and got tested negative at 1week 4 weeks and 8 weeks. my risk was with an hiv + female vaginal insertive 20 minutes no condom still feeling symptoms right now sore throat and itchy dry skin and sinus infection slight thrush what do you guys think 8 weeks - ...i know i have to be retested but this sux ... this girl is a murderer i asked her if she was ok she agreed and then later says she has aids i am going to freak out ...
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: RapidRod on February 22, 2007, 10:59:04 am
Don't try to put the blame all on the girl. You were the one that didn't use a condom. You have 5 weeks to go to get your conclusive test results. Always use condoms.
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Ann on February 22, 2007, 12:40:34 pm
stay,

You need to test at three months for a conclusive result, but as the vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks, your eight week negative is unlikely to change. Test again at three months and collect what I fully expect will be another negative result.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Using condoms is YOUR responsibility.

Ann
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 22, 2007, 04:19:07 pm
well what are these symptoms all about can a person have symptoms from an exposure and not get the virus i am so confused ive always been pretty safe with every partner i hsve been with i know this is partialy my fault though this girl did not inform me of her status intill after wards and she said she has herpes also not cool i tested for all stds at 1, 4 , 8 weeks so far all -
i know all the statistics of being infected but do i have a chance?
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Ann on February 22, 2007, 04:29:13 pm
stay,

As for your chances, re-read my first post to you. I already answered that question.

Symptoms or even the lack of symptoms means nothing when it comes to hiv infection. ONLY testing, at the appropriate time, will reliably inform you of your hiv status.

I fully expect you to continue testing negative.

Ann
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: wellok on February 22, 2007, 04:41:02 pm
all right well i thank you all for the support i am going to keep testing and keep u all posted on how my results turn out to be stayalive and well everyone ...next test is in 15 days ill let you know at the 3 month mark what happens..........
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Ann on February 22, 2007, 04:55:26 pm
wellok,



Can I ask why you are using different usernames while posting to our forums? Thus far, you have also used stayalive (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=9414.0)

Please realize that this kind of activity is disrespectful of other forum members, as well as our moderators. People spend a considerable amount of time helping others in these forums. Using multiple accounts is at the very least annoying, if not deceiving and disrespectful of others. It is also against our Terms of Membership (http://forums.poz.com/Terms.htm) which you agreed to when you became a member. This information is also contained within the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0), which you should have read by now. So really, you have no excuse.

You must realize that the answers won't change, no matter how many names you post under.

I would appreciate a reply to this message, and I hope you will commit to using just one account - preferably your original one. If not, you will be banned from further access to the forums.

Ann
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 22, 2007, 04:59:38 pm
sorry about that my email was messed up i had created two usernames woops.. i have another question though about a lession in the anus of a female could that be realated to hiv,herpes, or syphilis
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Ann on February 22, 2007, 05:05:48 pm
stay,

I disabled your wellok account. Do not create a third account or you will be banned.

Hiv does not cause lesions.

Herpes and syphilis are possibilities and if you think you've been exposed to either, go get yourself a sexual health care check up like I talked about in my earlier post to you. This is an hiv website, not a general STI website. Go see your doctor.

Ann
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 22, 2007, 05:36:42 pm
im going to do just that thank u ill keep u posted
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 23, 2007, 02:13:01 pm
ok i have another question... the girl who i had sex with is hiv + so now all these symptoms would have to be related to hiv... yes or no
and if you have had sex with some one with hiv and have all these symptoms can you still test negative.... i know that you guys say symptoms dont mean anything but i believe you just say that because you want people to get tested just to be safe but in a real risk situation symptoms are very real...
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Ann on February 23, 2007, 02:35:46 pm
stay,

The answer to your first question is NO. Your symptoms could be anything.

The answer to your second question is YES. It is totally possible to be exposed to hiv and not become infected, which means you test negative.

Many people never have a symptom ever, but still test hiv positive. Many people have every symptom in the book, yet test hiv negative. Symptoms, or even the lack of symptoms, mean absolutely NOTHING.

My partner and I were together for a year and a half, having unprotected intercourse, before I discovered my positive hiv status. He tested and continues to test hiv negative. He IS hiv negative. We use condoms now and there is no doubt in my mind that he will STAY hiv negative. (or at least he won't get it from me!)

Ann
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 23, 2007, 02:47:37 pm
Ann,

just a question if he had sex with you (your husband, Ann) while you were infected and did not know it yet did your husband experience any symptoms i know that u said no symptoms or every symptom it doesn't matter but I'm just stressed out and confused about this whole thing this is the first time i have ever really been in a situation like this and i am only 24 years old, trying to stayalive. though now i know to do the right thing i just hope it is not too late... thank you for your help
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Ann on February 23, 2007, 03:00:08 pm
stay,

He's not my husband. He's my partner. There is a difference.

Did he have symptoms? He had the odd cold, but he also didn't have hiv. Symptoms or the lack of symptoms means nothing when it comes to hiv. I know plenty of people who never had a single symptom but who are hiv positive. Symptoms are MEANINGLESS when it comes to hiv! You're just going to have to accept that.

As you have already been told, it's highly unlikely that you will go on to test positive, after your eight week negative, over this incident. You're just going to have to sit tight until you have your confirmation test. I fully expect you to test negative.

Ann
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 23, 2007, 03:08:48 pm
alright i get it i have 14 days till 13 weeks think if i take a test at 12 weeks that is good enough for a conclusive test which would be a week from today I'm going to see a specialist next week so they are probably going to tell me to re test but we ll see...thanks for the input
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Ann on February 23, 2007, 03:11:41 pm
stay,

A twelve week test is conclusive here in the UK, using the same tests as are used in the States. When you test is up to you.

No matter if you wait one week or two, I'm still expecting a negative result. You should too.

Ann
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 23, 2007, 09:48:10 pm
I know a 13 week test is conclusive but do alot of people test at 8 weeks negative and then 13 weeks positive... still coping with my stupidity.... also is hair loss or thin hair a symptom of hiv.
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 25, 2007, 04:59:53 pm
hello is hair loss a symptom of hiv
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Ann on February 25, 2007, 05:41:28 pm
stay,

Very few people test negative at eight weeks then positive at thirteen. I fully expect you to test negative again.

And hello, hair loss is NOT a symptom of hiv.

Ann
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 25, 2007, 07:21:13 pm
ok just wondering maybe im stressing a little too much its real hard not to though ill be going for a test very soon so im a little on edge.....thanks for your reply
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 28, 2007, 07:03:29 pm
over the stuffed nose about a week later and still feeling weird and all this time i have had painful tongue and white coated tongue so then 8 weeks negative and lost about 10 to 15 pounds and Friday i go for 12 weeks test

though the ID specialist did nothing for me he said it is probably something viral that you got all out of whack with and there is no cure but time thanks Buddy and my hair is so thin already........ and he said there is no such thing as ars and he said you don't get it from vaginal sex you can but you don't is what he said this guy knows nothing i thought and was just a waste of time he didn't even think i should get tested again.....

well i think i have it but any ways here we go again back to the testing should i just get a rapid test done or what other test can i take for it to be considered conclusive
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 28, 2007, 07:06:03 pm
sorry about that post my story got cut ill start it again
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 28, 2007, 07:13:41 pm
i started off with pain in my penis at 4 days that moved into my legs and groin area and frequent urination so went to the hospital they said i had clymidia i didnt think that was the case but took the meds anyway told my girlfriend we cant have sex for awhile if you still want to be with me she does.. my ris was insertive vaginal with hiv + female who said she also has herpes amungst who knows what else then went to urologist  after a test of everything negative 1 week, he said it was all in my head well i still felt fatigued and then i saw my gp he said test and that was 4 weeks negative but then i stated to get sick around the 5th weeks rash on my arms white itchy spots then a cold at 6 weeks with caugh and muscle aches and fever of 101 and night sweets for 1 night theni got over the stuffed nose about a week later and still feeling weird and all this time i have had painful tongue and white coated tongue so then 8 weeks negative and lost about 10 to 15 pounds and Friday i go for 12 weeks test

though the ID specialist did nothing for me he said it is probably something viral that you got all out of whack with and there is no cure but time thanks Buddy and my hair is so thin already........ and he said there is no such thing as ars and he said you don't get it from vaginal sex you can but you don't is what he said this guy knows nothing i thought and was just a waste of time he didn't even think i should get tested again.....

well i think i have it but any ways here we go again back to the testing should i just get a rapid test done or what other test can i take for it to be considered conclusive
Posted on: February 25, 2007, 07:21:13 PM
Posted by: stayalive
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on February 28, 2007, 10:12:09 pm
hello guys no support here ... a rapid test is suitable for a conclusive result or no? anybody have any reflection on my story?
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Damon on February 28, 2007, 11:34:29 pm
stay alive check your PM :)
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: RapidRod on March 01, 2007, 03:29:10 am
Damon, do not be posting in other people's threads, than your own. 
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Ann on March 01, 2007, 06:32:43 am
Stay,

The doctor may have meant that symptoms mean nothing when he said there is no such thing as ARS.

He was very wrong when he said "you don't get it from vaginal sex". While transmission is harder to accomplish from a woman to a man, it can and does happen. However, with the negative results you have so far, it hasn't happened to you. I'm fully expecting your conclusive test to also be negative.

A rapid test is accurate and you can use the rapid test for your conclusive result.

Ann
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 01, 2007, 09:58:43 am
OK I'm really nervous, i go tommarrow, the id doctor said that ars it doesn't happen u feel nothing he said. I didn't know about ars either until I started to feel different, i hope that is not what i have been feeling but if the id doctor didn't really know to much about transmission than how do so many heterosexual people get it unless they all have had anal sex too he just made me real confused but anyway judgement day is tommarrow thanks guys for your help...trying to stay sain oh yeah and about the hair thing i read that if you have undergone a severe illness you might loss hair or become really thin from the stress your body has undergone this makes me so on edge, but i know only the test will show whats yet to come of this all
thanks Ann you have been alot of help...
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: RapidRod on March 01, 2007, 10:08:17 am
Seek out another ID doctor that specializes in HIV.
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 01, 2007, 10:13:56 am
well ihope that i really wont have to after this test tommarrow but we cant be certain right now this guy said get on with my life that i dont have it no further testing is needed but i kn ow i have to go for the 12 week test its the rules
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 01, 2007, 05:38:07 pm
well here we go 12 week test at 9 in the morning after an 8 week negative test still feeling like i have sore throat and burning tongue comes and goes but trying to make it, i thankyou all again for the kind information you have presented to me i will let you know what happens thankyou.....good luck to everyone and good health
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Andy Velez on March 01, 2007, 05:46:44 pm
Fortunately your feelings aren't facts and I still expect you to continue to test negative. 
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 01, 2007, 05:55:25 pm
thanks andy
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 02, 2007, 02:46:06 pm
i just got back from the test i had a rapid test at 12 weeks it was negative do you guys think i am OK hiv - i had every symptom in the book still feeling physically and emotionally stressed but I'm trying to go with what Andy says, "feelings aren't facts" am i negative, the lady said that i have to retest at 6 months no matter what because of the window period being 3 to 6 months and she is an hiv councilor since 1988
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 02, 2007, 03:37:13 pm
the type of test i think was a uni gold recombigen test results in 10 minutes test done at 84 days..."CLIA-waived for finger stick whole blood use, this easy-to read single -reagent test is not only faster but simpler than other tests on the market" what do you guys think keep testing or am i conclusive
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 02, 2007, 04:01:50 pm
hello i am patiently waiting for an answer to my questions is this an accurate test am i conclusive what is your opinion? thanks guys
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Andy Velez on March 02, 2007, 04:25:53 pm
I wonder if you're going to be willing to believe us now that a totally incorrect idea has been planted in your mind by that counselor about re-testing at 6 months.

The CDC is quite conservative in this matter and suggests 13 weeks. (In many countries 12 weeks is considered sufficient).

The exception by the CDC is in instances in which IV drug use is involved or the person has a severely depleted immune system due to treatment for cancer or such. And believe me when your immune system is severely depleted you wouldn't be sitting around wondering if that applies to you.

The counselor gave you outdated info about re-testing at 6 months.

You're HIV negative. Period. End of story. What you choose to do know about letting go and getting on with your life is strictly up to you. You've made it through ok. Learn from this experience and get on, get on with your life! No kidding.

Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 02, 2007, 04:43:01 pm
your the man Andy i thank you very much for this reply you guys deal with this stuff all day long so i believe yes you are telling me the truth i will do just that get on with my life............................................. though you think 12 weeks is sufficient over 13 it has been 84 days exactly......... no more testing???????  I have learned alot from this experience and will continue to donate to certain aids organizations every month.............. I am also going to place a basket of complementary condoms in my house in case one of my Friends tries something stupid or my little brother makes the same stupid mistake his stupid older brother did.
thanks Andy, Ann, and rapid you helped out too...

PS and to all those people freeking out about oral sex and kissing and stuff stop you didint have a risk read the transmission threads its getting really oldstop posting if you fingered your Friends asshole get on with your life
 
         ...............      .......................   ...........   ...     ..stayalive everyone staywell take care of yourselves life is very fragile.........
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 02, 2007, 08:00:03 pm
rapid what do u think do you agree with andy? is my rapid test conclusive? will my hair stop falling out ? have you seen people on this website have all the symptoms and test negative 12 weeks and then positive at 6 months?
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: RapidRod on March 02, 2007, 08:14:51 pm
Name one person that has received a negative result at 12 weeks and positive at six months. You have a negative conclusive test and you are negative. Use condoms consistently and correctly and you won't have this worry. As for your hair, see a doctor is not related to HIV.
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 02, 2007, 08:28:16 pm
OK rapid i got a bunch of condoms from the clinic i am going to put them on every table in my house so they very acceptable in my decesion making thanks rod
maybe if i dont think about hiv for a few minutes my hair will grow back
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Andy Velez on March 03, 2007, 10:43:51 am
PS In many countries 12 weeks is accepted as a reliable testing point. Whether 12 or 13 weeks, a negative at that point is reliable, even if you have gone bald -- and hopefully that won't happen.

Cheers,
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 03, 2007, 08:45:57 pm
thanks Andy i am still a little on edge about this whole thing but i m trying to get on with my life its just really been a long stressfull experience and i keep thinking that it is not over yet like i need to re test and cant stop thinking about it... but thanks for the encouragement on the 12 week negative rapid test....
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 03, 2007, 08:47:28 pm
Ann what do you think.?
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Ann on March 03, 2007, 09:18:20 pm
Stay,

You are totally and conclusively hiv negative.

Make sure you use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you will remain hiv negative.

Ann
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 03, 2007, 09:29:33 pm
thanks ann i willalways use protection
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 08, 2007, 05:37:29 pm
i have a question i know you guys have given me a conclusive test result at 12 weeks, but i was at the dermatologist today for my itchy skin spots i have that began as part of my symptoms which led me to believe i had to begin testing the question is, i tested for hep a,b,c and all negative this was done at 4 weeks is that a conclusive date for testing or if i have been infected with hep c will my test for hiv window be delayed and it will then take longer to produce anti bodies, cause the lady said hep c is a sneaker virus that can show up with in a year after exposure do you guys know anything about it?
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 08, 2007, 06:26:27 pm
hello do you guys know anything about if you get infected by hep c and hv in one shot if hiv will be delayed?

Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Ann on March 08, 2007, 06:37:20 pm
stay,

It is EXTREMELY rare for a man to become infected with hep C through vaginal intercourse with a woman - unheard of really. You're just going to have to get over the fact that you weren't infected with anything this time out.

And no, hiv antibody production wouldn't be delayed. You are hiv negative, period, end of story.

If you are still worried about hepatitis, despite the fact that you didn't really have a risk for it, then test again and collect your negative.

And may I remind you that this is an hiv website?

Ann
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 08, 2007, 06:42:57 pm
alright Ann i know its an hiv website i thankyou again for your reply its just the lady today at the dermatologist gave me another spurt of worry syndrome , I'm going to get tested again for all STDs spite all my negative results any way although i thank you all for the really great advice and encouragement thankyou ..............
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 14, 2007, 08:06:15 pm
i have another question on seroconversion, say you had tiny fractures on the tip of your penis from smacking it around or an open cyst on your penis would that be more receptive to the virus and would it make any difference in seroconversion time....longer then 12 weeks.......?
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: RapidRod on March 15, 2007, 03:36:22 am
NO!!
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 17, 2007, 10:50:59 pm
hello why would the CDC say that the person should test at 3 months if possably infected, and if the person is considered to have hiv who they engaged sex with they test out to 6 months is this just for insurance purposes or does this mean that my 12 month - means nothing since the girl who i had sex with has hiv and i have never felt so weird with every symptom of hiv in my life....do i need more tests
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on March 18, 2007, 11:22:16 am
no answer to this one i guess that's a yes i should test :-[
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Andy Velez on March 18, 2007, 11:33:31 am
You've already conclusively tested negative for HIV. The fact that the person you were with was HIV+ is irrelevant at this point. This is not an HIV situation.

You're convincing me that you need to see a counselor or other mental health professional to deal with this issue.

You are HIV negative.
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: Blockburner2828 on March 18, 2007, 08:26:51 pm
Goodluck man :D
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on April 12, 2007, 09:08:25 pm
hello i have been trying to stay away from the computer but my anxiety came back after i just received my negative test result ...this would be a (17.5 week test or 123 days) OK here is my queston why does the recording say on the phone that it doesn't detect early infection and that if you have been exposed before 6 months that you may not of developed enough antibodies to test positive....i know you guys say 12 to 13 weeks but why is the recording saying that i just want to know that i am OK and should i retest in 2 months are the home access tests reliable whats the deal with that message .....i would move on but i still feel like i have swollen lymph's
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: friendlyfolk on April 12, 2007, 09:37:59 pm
Stop doing this to yourself. There is conflicting information out there regarding HIV and sometimes it is not necessarily linked to science but sometimes liability. HIV is a disease that suppresses your immune system as a result almost anything could be linked to it but that doesnt mean it is HIV. HIV is fragile and difficult to transmit through vaginal sex from female to male ( not an invitiationto engage in more unprotected sex) You tested negative- be happy. I read through the threads on this one because you said the girl was a murderer. Take responsibility for your actions ( though her lies were not acceptable the issue is your health). Whether she lied or not you were not aware enough to realize asking someone their status was not precaution enough. Learn something and dont make this mistake again. If you want to retest just do it- dont anaylze every symptom as it could be anything or nothing. Our minds play tricks on us all the time making us think we are ill when we are fine. Be well. :)
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: stayalive on April 12, 2007, 11:29:11 pm
ya I'm starting to feel better thanks for the kind words friendlyfolk........i know i need to be responsible for my own actions this really is a turning point in my life and has given me great awareness to many things health is definitely the most important aspect in life.,,,,difficult don't pop the top to early this bottle is still waiting for the last test June, but if you really want to have one alright i ll have one with you but the specail stuff, fot the party is still going to be on for june....stayalive and well everyone....
Title: Re: 8 weeks negative
Post by: ACinKC on April 13, 2007, 09:27:36 am
13 weeks is conclusive.  Not 6 months.  You are RELIABLY negative, try to move on.