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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: andrewedward on February 05, 2012, 09:10:57 pm
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Hi! Need your assistance in the following -
Had an encounter whereby condom was used, but in the midst of the act,
the lady said she was dry and used some body lotion as lubricant.
Had a tingling sensation on the penis thereafter.
Did not see any breakage, but am aware that using body lotion as lubricant is a no no.
Please advise what is the chance of exposure?
Also, had experiences whereby I had itching on my chest and neck and now have rashes and raised bumps , in particularly on my 2 elbows. Has it for about 2 weeks.
Thanks
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You never had an exposure, the condom remained intact. If you are concern about your symptoms see your doctor.
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Thank you for the quick reply
Has read that use of body lotion as lubricant can cause breakage and virus seeping through the rubber.
What is the chance of that happening and has there is any such cases that you have encountered?
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It doesn't cause seepage it can cause total failure.
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Condoms do not "seep" when oil-based lubricant compromises them. Their integrity degrades in such a way as to make them completely fail.
Condoms are made in a two-step latex dipping process, whereby the condom is rotated before the second layer of latex is applied; This results in a cross-hatch structure that resists tearing and makes "seepage" impossible. When a condom fails, it does so catastrophically.
Your condom remained intact. There was absolutely no risk for HIV in the scenario you describe.
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Hi! Since my last query I have some new concerns -
I know you have replied my last query but I need to ask again on the possibility of the virus getting through the condom as I have read that using body lotions as lubricant can create condom leak/breakage.
What is worse is that I felt some tingling sensation on the penis after ejaculation.
I have been having some symtoms -
- itch coming up from the chest to the neck and chin
-had flu for 2 weeks with body ach
- itch and rash on my neck, chest, armpit for 3 weeks
- itch on my elbow for the past 3 weeks and has not gone away
- a couple of sore (3 mm in size) on my forearm thigh and finger
- episodes of tired and blurred eyes
Have there been cases where infection took place due to use of body lotions as lubricants on condoms?
Thanks for your patience and reply
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Hi! Since my last query I have some new concerns -
I know you have replied my last query but I need to ask again on the possibility of the virus getting through the condom as I have read that using body lotions as lubricant can create condom leak/breakage.
What is worse is that I felt some tingling sensation on the penis after ejaculation.
I have been having some symtoms -
- itch coming up from the chest to the neck and chin
-had flu for 2 weeks with body ach
- itch and rash on my neck, chest, armpit for 3 weeks
- itch on my elbow for the past 3 weeks and has not gone away
- a couple of sore (3 mm in size) on my forearm thigh and finger
- episodes of tired and blurred eyes
Have there been cases where infection took place due to use of body lotions as lubricants on condoms?
Thanks for your patience and reply
See your doctor for your concerns they have nothing to do with HIV.
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If your condom had failed you would have known it for sure. When a condom fails it's not about itty bitty holes as people often fear. The whole thing goes and ends up looking like a hoop with lots of latex fringe on your penis. So it would have been quite visible if that had happened.
As Rod has said, whatever is causing your symptoms has nothing to do with HIV. Check things out with your doctor if the symptoms persist.
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Hi!
Still having this bump rash on my elbow and now some itch on my chest, neck and along the jaw line.
My first experience having itch on my chest, neck and jawline was about 1 year ago
I need to know - is the above usually experienced for someone who is recently infected?
I have always used condoms from my activities with CSW. Had never noticed any breakages though not sure about seepage. One experience was when the CSW used a body cream as lubricant for the condom and I had a tingling sensation there after
Possible for this lotion to seep through the condom and the virus went through as well?
Had done STD check but afraid to do HIV check
Going crazy with this thought. Pls reply soon
Thanks
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Andrew,
You say you always use condoms with sex workers, and that's great. That's what you're supposed to do. However, what about others you may have been with? I hope you're also using condoms with any women you date, because if you don't, then you have been at risk. It's not just sex workers who may be hiv positive you know. I'm just an ordinary woman, yet I'm poz, so think on.
As you've already been told, things don't "seep" through condoms. If things like vaginal fluids and hand lotion could seep through them, they'd be useless. This is far from the case and condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection and are very effective at preventing many other STIs as well.
There have been three long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.
When condoms break, it's pretty damn obvious. If any of yours had broken, you'd know.
The rash you are experiencing sounds nothing like the rash that sometimes (not always) accompanies seroconversion. It's not itchy. It isn't bumpy. It only lasts a day or two, possibly three. If you didn't see it, you'd never know it was there.
Your rash has nothing to do with hiv, so stop quaking in your boots and go get it checked out by a doctor. It could be anything - apart from hiv, that is.
At the end of the day, if you cannot bring yourself to believe us when we say you have not had a risk, go test, collect your negative result and get on with your life. As a sexually active adult, you should be having a FULL sexual health check up at least once a year anyway.
Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.
To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.
Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY OVER PROTECTED INTERCOURSE, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.
If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.
Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!
Ann