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any reason to worry??
« on: December 17, 2008, 12:20:39 pm »
ok, i bought a dildo off ebay it is a ultra relistic rubber anyway. i got it in the mail like 1 week later. the day it came i wanted to use it so i did rinse it off and i think i may have used some hand soap but not 100%. i then went ahead and used it in my ass and sucked on it. (i am a male) it is really big and it made me bleed a little bit. my question is this... what happens if item was used by someone with hiv? could i have got hiv from this? could the hiv live on it for 1 week while in mail to me? any info great.

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Re: hi, could this happen to me?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2008, 12:47:52 pm »
HIV does not stay active outside its host. You were not at risk for contracting HIV.

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Re: hi, could this happen to me?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2008, 03:06:27 pm »
cool. thank you. one more question, if i and another person used it and were swapping it back and forth using it, could i get it like that? i read on some sites you can buy you guys seem to know more so would like to just know. thanks again

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Re: hi, could this happen to me?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2008, 03:43:16 pm »
HIV is a fragile virus and is not transmitted from environmental surfaces including dildos, doorknobs, razors and scissors at the barbershop, etc. I don't see any cause for concern about this incident.

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Re: hi, could this happen to me?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2008, 04:14:43 pm »
great. thank you for the info. next time i buy one i will wash it super well before using. thanks again. take care

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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2008, 04:46:02 pm »
...and if and when you get around to having intercourse, make sure condoms are always used for either vaginal or anal intercourse. No exceptions. Unprotected intercourse is the real risk for sexually transmitting HIV.
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2009, 10:36:27 am »
ok, went to sex worker, i fingered her for like 5 minutes (maybe some tiny cuts but none you can really see) then put on condom and had sex. my worry is this. she was wet and there was fulid all over my balls, around the base of penis where condom did not cover and pelvic area and i mean alot of vaginal fulid all over me and my fingers from fingering. i think when took condom off some fulid got on my penis head just want to know if any risk of hiv. thanks

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Re: any reason to worry??
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2009, 10:41:29 am »
You were never at risk of contracting HIV.

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2009, 10:50:00 am »
ok, great thanks for the reply. 1 last question, i can finger a girl unless i have a big open cut bleeding  on my finger and on the sex part as long as i strap a condom on for sex there is no concern for the fulids that get on base of penis and rest of that area? i just want to keep it safe. knowing the fax are better than not being sure.

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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2009, 10:58:58 am »
No one has ever been confirmed to have become infected by fingering a woman. You won't make history by becoming the first.

Condoms provide very effective protection against HIV transmission. Wear one everytime. As long as the head of your penis is covered you are well covered.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2009, 11:04:28 am »
awesome info. thanks again and will be SURE to keep condom on for sex, i just needed to know vaginal fulid on fingers and whole pelvic area would not do anything. i dont know why it would'nt  but i will take your word, u guys seem to be experts on hiv. thanks for the info.

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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2009, 11:17:42 am »
lt,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

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I totally agree with the others - you were NOT at risk for hiv in what you describe. Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus. Once it finds itself outside the body, small changes in temperature, pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. Also, hiv can only infect a very few, very specific types of cells. These types of cells are not found on the skin or in small cuts on your fingers. They ARE found inside your urethra (where you pee/cum from), and in the lining of your anus. This is why condoms protect during intercourse and all this other stuff isn't worth worrying about.

Keep using those condoms and you'll be fine where hiv is concerned. Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Read through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use them with confidence.

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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2009, 11:18:19 am »
HIV is not easy to transmit. It needs the kind of receptive setting which unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse provide.

That's why other so-called risks are really theoretical. In the real world of HIV we know it's about unprotected intercourse.
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2009, 11:44:14 am »
ok thank you very much, sorry i posted in wrong area. thanks to all of you.

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2009, 03:02:11 pm »
hi again, ok hope ann could help here or andy, ok i met a girl and well she told me she was hiv+ and i did not have any condoms but what i did do with her was rub my middle finger on her outside of her vagina and only really by her clitoris. i did this for no more than 2 minutes and did not do anything else cause i got nervous. now after doing this i am going nuts now. my finger where your fingerprint is was a little wet but dont think nothing else was. i only did that much because of all i learned on your site but now im thinking could have got by my finger nail top where i had bit off skin and got in. i washed my hands like 30 minutes after doing this and did not touch any other part of myself with that finger. should i get tested?? i really need to know also my cut on top where i bit skin off was not a scab yet nor was it bleeding but looked like i bit open 2 or 3 hours before i did this and then was bleeding and could it at all just got into my finger???

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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2009, 03:37:03 pm »
You are worrying needlessly. Fingering of any kind, including with nicks , cuts and bruises, is absolutely not a risk fpr HIV transmission.

Sexually,the only confirmed risks for HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. Use condoms everytime for those and you will be ok.

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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2009, 03:45:10 pm »
andy thank you very much. i really hope your right for sure. i will get checked just to clear my mind and be 100% im glad i did not have any condoms because i might of had sex with her and then i would really be a mess

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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2009, 08:23:19 pm »
Go ahead and test if you want to for peace of mind. Based on what you have reported a negative result is a slam dunk.
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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2009, 02:55:52 pm »
hi, thanks again andy. i did have a test today with blood and knew in 10 minutes they said to test in 3 months again thanks for the info and making me feel better.

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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2009, 03:05:49 pm »
At no time were you at risk and you didn't need any testing.

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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2009, 03:51:14 pm »
Testing again is a waste of time and money. Makes labs happy though because they make money whether you need the test or not.

You're HIV negative. Period.
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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2009, 09:49:47 pm »
hey guys, a great question...
do lamb skin condoms provide any protection? i mean any at all? i used a lamb skin one on wife then had my semen in it and then i added water to it and tied it off and hung it in my garage lol. well its been there like 3 weeks now and level of water the same and outside of condom always dry. lamb skin condoms feel soooo nice.

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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2009, 10:24:24 pm »
lt,

Are you for real? Who on earth hangs their used condoms in the garage?

Get a grip of yourself and get yourself into some serious psychological counseliing. You never had a risk for hiv infection. You can't pass on to your wife something that you do not have.

It seems to me that considering the questions you've brought to us so far, that you are only using this forum for your own amusement. If so, fuck off.

And by the way, lambskin condoms do not protect against ANY STI, they only prevent pregnancy.

Keep coming back with this crap and you'll be banned.

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« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2009, 05:21:59 pm »
wow i am sorry, i think you took the question all wrong. i ment if i had sex with someone and did not know their hiv status if a lamb skin condom would protect at all. no i took your info as i did not have a risk before and know that but i bought some lamb skin condoms and liked them so was just asking if they protect at all. thats all i was asking. im sorry you took my question wrong, i was really just trying to know if they protect or not if i used with a person that i dont know if they have hiv. 

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« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2009, 05:28:32 pm »
hi again, i hope you see what i was asking. again im sorry i dont want to be misunderstood. again i guess i could have just wrote: DO LAMB SKIN CONDOMS PROTECT FROM HIV? thats all i wanted to know again im sorry for asking.

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« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2009, 05:57:14 pm »
hi again, i hope you see what i was asking. again im sorry i dont want to be misunderstood. again i guess i could have just wrote: DO LAMB SKIN CONDOMS PROTECT FROM HIV? thats all i wanted to know again im sorry for asking.
Not only do they not protect against HIV they don't protect against STDs. Had you looked on the box it plainly states it.

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« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2009, 07:52:20 pm »
lt,

I asked you back in July to read all three condom and lube links in my signature line. If you had, you would not have needed to come here to ask the question nor avail us with your odd tale of hanging a used condom in your garage. Read the links and learn what types of condoms you should use and how to dispose of them correctly.

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« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2009, 09:30:17 pm »
hi, ok sorry again for asking but thank you for all the info you gave me. (p.s. i just finished reading the condoms section and now see why lamb skin dont protect) sorry again i pissed you off

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i got a BJ and wore a condom but a question
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2010, 01:38:52 pm »
i was at a swingers party and me an a lady hit it off so we went to a room where i pulled out a condom she said she just wanted to suck me and i said well i want to wear a condom, she said well ok but a blow job is safe i said well suck with condom on or cannot do...  i spit into the condom on my side because i read it can help protect from hiv and slid it on. she gave me a bj and did lick my balls and lower shaft where condom did not cover. im 99% sure i did great to protect from hiv but any other diseases i should worry about by using condom for bj's? i just want to be as safe as i can when doing anything. thanks

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« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2010, 01:50:43 pm »
LT,

You seriously do not need to worry about hiv while getting a blowjob. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. Not one person has ever been infected through a blowjob and you won't be the first.

As for other STIs during a blowjob, the most common is herpes. It is also possible to get gonorrhea, chlamydia or syphilis through getting blown. If you want to know more about other STIs, I suggest you google it. This site only deals with hiv.

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« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2010, 02:21:37 pm »
thanks ann, i just want to have a good time when i go to these parties and so far my confort level is a condom for a BJ. im trying to get up the nerve to rub the outside of vagina with finger but just not ready for that yet. if you know any good std sites please pass on the link to me, when i do google search it just gives me shady answers.
what im trying to find is if oral sex lower risk for std's than vaginal sex. and how much safer is getting a BJ with condom on than without condom on for std's.
Happy Holidays Ann, andy and Ron

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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2010, 02:58:30 pm »
lt,

Try this site - The Drama Down Under - it's based in Australia and is aimed at gay men, but the information is the same, particularly when it discusses getting a blowjob. The information on that site is accurate. Another good site is inSPOT.

Ann
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« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2010, 07:53:28 pm »
hi, ok im really upset now. you guys well ann said no risk and i called a city by me hiv place and they said no risk either but now like 8  or 9 days after i got the bj with comdom on my left nut hurts, i have like a tingling feeling like on the head of penis and goes around into my anus. it dont burn when i pee but something does not feel right down their. could this have to do with hiv??? please reply, im really freaking out because when i took condom off (i have a small penis) i pulled the tip a bit and then rolled more of the condom out so like condom was longer so i could make sure not to spill the semen out of it and now worried that hit my head of penis and maybe had blood on it. local hiv place said really no chance for anything but now really worried because it just dont feel right at all in that area.. please reply.

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« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2010, 08:00:19 pm »
hi again, i just posted and just seen links ann put for me. i did not know she replyed with this but i will check them out now but please chime on in my problem i feel now... also sometimes sitting i feel burning going up like the urethra. and this all snce the bj wearing condom. did not see any pus or fulid from penis though as of yet and really hope not...

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« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2010, 09:47:17 pm »
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2010, 10:02:46 pm »
ron, PLEASE dont ban me. the clinic is not open now, i am going tomorrow at 1pm right when they open in my city. over the phone with them like 4 or 5 days ago they told me keep condoms on for everything and im A ok and guy said no worry about no STD's but something is really WRONG down there. So im just really worried since they told me nothing to worry about with any std could he be all wrong???? i think i have chlmidia or gonorrhea from this but now really freaking because he said no nothing i did was any risk of anything. now im freaking out but i AM going to clinic tomorrow. trust me if they were open now i would be there but they are not and im very upset and wanted your input, can you please reply and not yell. PLEASE

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« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2010, 07:04:44 am »
LT,

What you are experiencing with your penis has nothing to do with hiv. Hiv does not create symptoms in the genital tract. While you may have been infected with one of the more easily transmitted STIs while having sexual contact with another person, nothing you have done or have had done to you was a risk for the very difficult to transmit hiv virus.

Keep regaling us with your penile symptoms at your peril. You have not been at risk for hiv infection and you WILL be given a time out if you persist.

PLEASE CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED FOR THE LAST TIME!!!

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« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2010, 02:24:34 pm »
ok went to clinic today, sat with 2 people. they both told me i should be fine and both said not to even test from it but did say to wait 3 months for taking the test if i needed one to stop my fears. they told me getting a bj is very low risk and then adding the condom makes it like 10 x's less likely yet. the way one guy explained it was just by putting your penis into someone with hiv oral, vagina or anal is that it needs to be in there and be transfered in there and since weraing a condom it could not pass thur condom into my ureathra. i said well what about when i took condom off, could it have touched my head her saliva and or blood he said yes but even if it did saliva dont transfer it and if any blood in the saliva he said well maybe in thery but never proven..
well off to my regular doctor now cause they only do std tests on tuesdays at clinic so going to see whats going on with penis
again sorry about posts last night but the pain and having a panic attack just needed someone besides the cdc i called saying how everything is a risk to help out and the cdc people made it worse

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■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2010, 08:04:51 am »
Get yourself some professional help to deal with your unwarranted concerns.

That's something we cannot help you with any further in this setting. I am giving you the 28 day Time Out whcih you have been warned about repeatedly. Don't make the mistake of trying to create a new name to get around the Time Out. We'll spot that right off and it will get you permanently banned from this site.

HIV is not your problem. Period. 
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« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2011, 04:40:35 pm »
im back  ;)  ok i wanted to update my info, my doctor was wrong i DID not get gonorrhea like he said i probally got from protected oral.  they just called it a uti then. so anyway, i did go back and have oral now with this girl 3 times total and all WITH a condom on. what had me loosing my mind was how i could have got gonorrhea and wore condom and just got a bj. so i am just writing to say thank you and i WILL always wear a condom for ORAL sex besides with my wife and i really dont know how you can't get hiv at all this way but so far u guys know more about std's it seems than my doctor. what i dont get was you guys and like 3 hiv hotlines said no hiv from protected oral and not to worry, only my doctor and the cdc said oh yea it happens. well i guess they just trying to upset me and get me on more blood pressure meds than the 2 i take now. thanks for all the info and please dont give me anymore time outs.  ;)

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Re: any reason to worry??
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2011, 06:45:29 pm »
You can't get HIV from receiving unprotected oral.

But considering how long you have been coming here and been taught about the basics regarding HIV, you can get a Time Out for returning here needlessly when you don't have a credible HIV risk.

Protecting yourself sexually from HIV is very simple. Just use a condom everytime you intercourse outside of your secure relationship.

Cut out the drama about HIV. If you return here again needlessly you are going to get a Time Out for real. Consider yourself warned.
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Re: any reason to worry??
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2011, 09:50:01 pm »
hi andy, sorry but i was just writing in to say thank you and not to try to piss you or anyone off. and to say your info was better than what the cdc and my own doctor said thats all. thanks again.. take care

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Re: any reason to worry??
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2011, 08:40:20 am »
OK. You're welcome. Now get on with your life and remember to always use a condom when  you have intercourse. No exceptions. 
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got 5 bj's and one hand job?
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2011, 09:07:59 pm »
ok posted before, i had 5 bj's from a girl who blows anyone and everyone. i wore a condom every time for all 5 bj's i got, the hand job she gave me was outside my pants she was rubbing but was rubbing my leg and rubbed my balls a bit with hand (skin to skin). well my last bj was like 3 to 4 months ago and TOMORROW i am going to take a OraQuick Advance hiv test.. just wanted to know are these tests good? and i really hope im ok. tuesday going for full std test when they are open in my area. my first bj from her i had funny pain in penis and nuts was on cipro. and then my last bj got pain back and was on cipro for 25 days.. very very worried cause i heard from so many no risk for anything from protected bj and yet i end up with something, im really hoping hiv is really not a risk but in some way there HAS to be some risk..

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Re: any reason to worry??
« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2011, 09:27:40 pm »
As you have already been told many times, getting a blowjob including without a condom is absolutely no risk for HIV transmission.

Getting a handjob is equally without risk.

It doesn't seem as if anything that has been said to you repeatedly is sinking in.

If you have troubling symptoms you should discuss them with your doctor. They have nothing to do with HIV.

And I can tell you now we're not going to embark on another round of back and forths over you latest non-risk incidents. There is no cause for concern about HIV in your latest report.

Lastly, it's a rule of the site to keep all of your entries in the same thread. I have merged your most recent one with your previous entries. Please follow this rule in the future.
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Re: any reason to worry??
« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2011, 09:44:04 pm »
hi andy, sorry when i went to post in my posting a big red thing came up saying its over 60 days and to make new post, i was trying to post in right place... well i will repost tomorrow after my test and not repost (unless its positive) just very worried about testing but its time to move on with my life and know either positive or negitive with a test.. so tomorrow will be my last post with my results if all goes good..

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Re: any reason to worry??
« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2011, 09:46:22 pm »
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: any reason to worry??
« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2011, 12:31:48 pm »
back to report my test results.... did oral swab ora sure thing waited 20 minutes and counsoler grabs test and says ready and turns it around and only like 30% of the c line was red, he kinda was confused and i started to panic. he said let me go get a supervisor who came in and looked and said do another test he said could not confirm that test (now im shaking) ok test 2, wait 20 more mins, turn it around and faint red c line, he got supervisor and he said non reactive and that im a ok... while waiting for second test the first test strip the c line did get brighter and like 75% covered and no lines by the T so i guess im good.... thank all you guys, without this site i would not have had the nerves to go but now feel alot better from knowing for sure. ;)

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« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2011, 01:00:23 pm »
OK. Stop with the drama now and get on with your life. Really.
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