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Author Topic: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay  (Read 3798 times)

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Offline tednlou2

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Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« on: November 02, 2010, 11:45:43 pm »
There seems to be so many pastors coming out as gay lately---or being caught anyway.  However, this pastor does it in a good way.  You can read the story and watch the video of his emotional speech to his congregation.

http://www.365gay.com/news/megachurch-pastor-comes-out-as-gay-in-public-forum/

Offline tednlou2

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2010, 03:23:00 am »
I just wanted to say this video takes an investment of time as it is an hour long; however, it is well worth it.  The pastor talks about his life and knowing he was gay since a child, but hid it.  He also gets into passages from the Bible that are used against gays and what he has to say about how people pick and choose verses.  His cousin speaks at the end, who is also a pastor, and talks about people using the Bible as a weapon.  He touches on all the gay suicides to gays in the military.  He tells the story of gay couples who have no rights.  Specifically, he talks about how a man's partner was killed in war, but the partner was not informed.  The dead partner's parents were informed.  The same parents who disowned him.  He also talks about how some have shunned him and asked that he step down.  However, I was impressed with the congregation.


Offline Merlin

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2010, 05:36:38 am »
He would be a good reason to go back to church. There's no real reason for him to step down as he did not disgrace anyone by being honest and courageous to honor the truth.  ;)

Bless you Bishop JIm. The world churches are all in a mess. Be ready for bigger things - it's pretty clear the gate is now opened for the Truth to be resurrected.

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2010, 06:42:40 am »
I respectfully disagree that this is a man worth admiring.

He didn't do anything illegal. Also, its good that he's coming out now.

However I question the personal integrity of someone who knows he is gay and hides it, doing everything possible to hide it, and marries for 20+ years, and has a profession that is so implicated in the shame he feels so much that he hides his true self.

But happy he is on the road to some personal integration.
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Offline red_Dragon888

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2010, 06:49:15 am »
I was hoping it was Joel Osteen for I would date him in a minute.  He is so cute and hot!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I3ba3lnFHik

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Offline weasel

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 12:36:06 pm »


 What a nice storey .

 I would go to his church .

 Well worth Admiring !

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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2010, 01:38:38 pm »
Check out the wife's hair-don't

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Offline AlanBama

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 02:04:30 pm »
That's a Cruella DeVille 'punk' look...
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Offline thunter34

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 02:10:50 pm »
There seems to be so many pastors coming out as gay lately---or being caught anyway.  However, this pastor does it in a good way. 

The one that I want to go down in flames is Eddie Long. 
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Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2010, 06:50:17 pm »
The one that I want to go down in flames is Eddie Long. 

Spoken like a true youth pastor.  ;)

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Offline Lucky2behere

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2010, 07:04:19 pm »
Her head is shaved with a mohawk and skunk hair. My if that is not a cry for help, I don't know what is?
She either needs some attention or some therapy... maybe both.  ;D Sorry I'm slipping off ya'lls topic.

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Offline ds4146

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2010, 08:53:04 pm »
Wow at 52.....coming out....what a hero. Sorry don't buy it! As for the ex-wife's do, that looks like weekly road kill I imagine in most parts of the country.

Offline ElZorro

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2010, 11:14:34 pm »
Thanks for posting, it was an interesting video.

I got the impression, too, though, that he's also trying to save his church by implementing a bit of "spin control". Still, I'm glad he did it and I hope he lives up to what he insinuates he is going to do; mainly, take on the mainstream religious right on this hot topic.

I wouldn't put him in the same league as the Texas city council man, though, with respect to being a "true hero".
« Last Edit: November 03, 2010, 11:16:14 pm by ElZorro »

Offline Lucky2behere

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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2010, 12:31:35 am »
TedNlou2   Thanks for the topic. When I have an hour, I'll try to listen to his apology. I am a recovering Southern Baptist, so I am already over organized mainstream religions' views on Gays and Lesbians, etc. And I am completely happy with my spiritual self. There are Gay churches too.
But mostly I havn't laughed so hard in weeks. Mostly it is just her "Hair Don't" Miss Philicia, AlanBama, ds4146. I am laughing my ass off. Thank you!
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Re: Mega-Church Pastor Comes Out As Gay
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2010, 03:57:31 pm »

          OK , They ARE  a cute couple    :o

            After seeing THAT   HAIR  I must ask ,   Did they REALLY  need to come out  ?


            My Gaydar  would pick out that freak show in a minute !

           Love this  thread  also way too funny .

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