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Author Topic: Bleeding Gum During Kissing  (Read 13038 times)

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Bleeding Gum During Kissing
« on: May 14, 2012, 08:33:14 am »
Hi,
First of all, apologize if this post is repetitive.
I am a 26years old male. 11 days ago, I went to a pub and engaged in open mouth French kiss with a prostitute. It was supposed to be a close mouth kissing but I wasn't thinking straight and was drunk. We kissed for about 10 seconds before I came to my sense and stopped the kissing.

What worry me is that my gum is not healthy. It constantly bleed and even now, if I am to suck by mouth, blood ooze out near my canine tooth. Secondly, 3 days before the encounter, I went to my dentist for my gum issue and performed scaling procedure. As a results, there was a open wound at my lower front gum where the tip of our tongue sits.. There could be more wound in my mouth since the scaling procedure was just 3 days apart and it involved all my teeth.

On the prostitute, I am not sure of her gum health and if she has HIV+. She does has a nice set of teeth but so do I. I can't tell if she is having problem with her gum. On that day, besides me, she was busy going table to table. Not sure if she had kissed others as well.

I had been having mild diarrhea for the past 6 days. There are red rashes near my chest and arm. Am I at risk? I am waiting for at least 4 weeks before going to testing. I am very worried. Please help.

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Re: Bleeding Gum During Kissing
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2012, 08:37:07 am »
Kissing of any kind and no matter what condition your gums are in would not be a risk for HIV.

You are worrying needlessly.

What you need to know is that the only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. As long as you properly use condoms for those activities you will be well protected.

There is no need for further concern on your part about this episode in relation to HIV.
Andy Velez

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Re: Bleeding Gum During Kissing
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2012, 09:21:35 am »
Dear Andy,

Thanks for the reply.
May I know how can you be so sure, since I clearly had open wound(s) in my mouth? Sorry if my question sound rude.

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Re: Bleeding Gum During Kissing
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2012, 09:28:47 am »
sand,

Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. Getting a blowjob is also not a risk for the same reason.

Unless you're in the habit of repeatedly punching a person in the mouth before you kiss them or they blow you, there could not possibly be enough blood present to be of concern.

Not one person has EVER been infected through kissing in over thirty years of the hiv pandemic, and you are not going to be the first.

You have NOT had a risk and you do NOT need to test.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY OVER TESTING, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: Bleeding Gum During Kissing
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2012, 11:17:17 am »
Hi Ann,

My worry is on the blood to blood transmission if she has bleeding gum like I do. Does that increase my risk tremendously?

Regards

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Re: Bleeding Gum During Kissing
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2012, 12:11:16 pm »
Sand,

Re-read what I already wrote. You could both have bleeding gums - neither of you would have the slightest risk for hiv infection.

KISSING IS NOT A RISK FOR HIV INFECTION and it doesn't matter what sort of details you want to add. Please come into the 21 century!

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.


Please consider yourself warned!

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Bleeding Gum During Kissing
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 07:33:32 pm »
Thanks for the reply. My last annual blood examination was roughly 12 months ago and was tested negative. I have only 1 sex partner which is my current girlfriend and all our sex activities were protected sex. Never had unprotected sex with others before. Thanks for re-assuring again.

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Re: Bleeding Gum During Kissing
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 09:51:11 pm »
FYI as a general piece of information, just a general blood test is not what we're talking about in relation to HIV. If you had ever had a genuine risk for the virus, only an HIV-specific test can conclusively affirm your HIV negative status. General blood tests cannot give you that answer.
Andy Velez

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Re: Bleeding Gum During Kissing
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2012, 08:31:50 am »
Thanks for the feedback Andy. Yes my previous annual blood test was inclusive of HIV-1, HIV-2, and ELISA test. They were negative 12 months ago.

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Re: Bleeding Gum During Kissing
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2012, 08:46:47 am »
OK. Good. I just wanted you to be clear about this because sometimes people mistakenly assume that a general blood test is sufficient.

Cheers.
Andy Velez

 


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