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[Andrewt]

Context:

- 10 days ago, protected oral and vaginal sex with prostitute
- Changed position, erection went away, so she stimulated me WITHOUT a condom
- Before entry, put new condom on
- No condom slippage or breakage

However,

-After changing positions, while being stimulated I closed my eyes for about 10 seconds. I felt like she put some liquid on the head of my penis. It could have been saliva, vaginal secretions....or blood. If it was a drop of blood (probably not more, since I would have noticed), and it did touch my urethra, is it possible that it entered my urethra when she put another condom on and we had sex again for 2 minutes till I came?

Is is easy for a drop of blood to enter the urethra?

Does entering the urethra mean entering your bloodline (don't know the English word for it, sorry)

I know chances for getting HIV after a single unprotected episode are rather low. However, while heterosexual, vaginal sex, blood does not often occur. Does this mean that when a drop of blood actually did touch my urethra, my chances are much greater than by having 1 time unprotected sex?

Please help.

[Andrewt]

Also, what about vaginal secretions? (Chances of the liquied being the latter are, I think, higher than that it was blood. Is that dangerous? Is it true that hand to genital contact does not result in HIV transmission?)

[RapidRod]

You don't get HIV from being masterbated.

[Andrewt]

I know chances of hand to genital contact is very small. However, does this take into account menstrual or blood from the hand?

If blood from her hand contacted my urethra, what then? The problem is then not being masterbated, but mucous membrane exposure.

I do not want to sound totally paranoid, but i def. did feel liquid. Saliva would have been totally harmless, and vaginal secretions also, I think. But I can't sleep at night, fearing it was a drop of blood.

If so, could it have went inside my urethra and into my bloodstream?
I have heard that there has to be 'sufficient' amount of HIV to infect one. But what is sufficient?

[RapidRod]

Chances of hand to genitals isn't a small risk it's a NO RISK.

[Andrewt]

Okay.

May I ask you why is that? Is it because (menstrual) blood on the hands cannot enter the urethra? Or is it that HIV 'dies' before it enters the other persons body? Is it because it is highly unlikely that a drop of blood would eventually enter the bloodstream? I mean, a vagina is a closed circuit, so to speak, and when masterbating blood comes in contact with the air and all that.

I hope you have taken into account my worrying over the blood in your assessment.

(Excuse my spelling and grammatical errors)

[Ann]

Andrew,

Why on earth would she put blood on your penis, and where, exactly, do you think she would have gotten the blood from?

You certainly have a vivid imagination.

You didn't have a risk for hiv. Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection and masturbation is not a risk for hiv infection.

Ann

[Andrewt]

Ann,

She would't actually have 'put' blood on my penis. I closed my eyes, so I could't see, but maybe she switched hands. With the other hand she had masturbated herself with. So, vaginal secretions could have been on there. Maybe some menstrual blood.

Also, I did not see a band-aid, but it could have been there. Normally I am extremely careful, but the eye closing is giving me enormous anxiety. I am terrified.

[Ann]

Andrew,

Your imagination is running away with you. Take a few deep breaths and calm down. Either way, you didn't have a risk. Masturbation with sexual fluids is not a risk for hiv infection. For blood to have been a risk, there would have had to be so much present that you'd have been covered in it.

You did NOT have a risk for hiv infection in anything you bring to us.

Although you do NOT need to test over this specific incident, Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Keep using those condoms and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

Ann

[Andrewt]

I have heard that there has to be 'sufficient' amount of HIV to infect one. But what is sufficient?

For blood to have been a risk, there would have had to be so much present that you'd have been covered in it.

Okay, so there has to be a lot of blood. That was not the case. If you have the time, could you explain why that is so? Chances of entering the urethra....HIV 'dying' when outside the body....

Ann,

on the Net they say stuff like, 'only a tiny amount of blood is enough' and reading that stuff makes one go completely mad. I haven't slept in days.

[Andrewt]

Note that I am not circumcised!

[Andrewt]

Day 14. Still very scared. I do not think I can wait 70 or 80 days more. Maybe I can get the test at six weeks...I don't know.

I am worried that some blood might have touched my urethra...even though Ann said that for blood to have been a risk I would have been covered by it. That actually does make me feel a little better, thanks.

[ACinKC]

You would have had to have been covered in it so do not worry.  You have no risk in the situation you described.  I expect you to test negative today, 12 weeks from now, and 6 months from now as long as you dont have any truly risky situations, which this is not.

[Andrewt]

as long as you dont have any truly risky situations, which this is not.

I am sure I will never do something like this again. It is not worth the stress, anxiety, sleepless nights, day time scares and all that. I can relate to the people ou here who say it totally changed their lives....one experience.

[Andrewt]

At 43 days. Negative Abbott Determine. Negative Orasure.