My Books

[Suntropic98]

So when I finish my books (which will be in the near future) is there any chance some of you might read at least one of them?

[Dachshund]

I doubt it, I already know how it ends.

[Bucko]

If there's lots of anal sex I'd crack them open.

Brent
(Who loves a good read)

[Dachshund]

Did you mean read or color?

[milker]

I hope it has nice illustrations, specifically of the Blow Job Ninja™ !

Milker.

[Matty the Damned]

Well, Matty the Damned won't read them, but he is happy to organise for them to burnt. The whole scherang; huge bonfire in the town square at night, baying crowd of slack jawed onlookers, angry speeches denouncing you. You know the drill.

Will that do?

MtD

[Basquo]

Maybe.  Can you tell us more about them?

[Queen Tokelove]

Why should I read your stinking books if you can't even answer my post in the other thread? And do I even want to know what these books are about? Let me take a guess:

1.) Women And Sex
2.) Booze and more Booze
3.) Shopping with a gay man

Am I close? Sheesh.....

[anniebc]

Now, now Queenie you know the rules...if you don't like books just say so..

Hugs
Jan

[Queen Tokelove]

Now, now Queenie you know the rules...if you don't like books just say so..

Hugs
Jan

My Dearest Jan,

Now what gives you that idea, I don't like books? I must admit I haven't picked one up in awhile but likes to read stuff like Anne Rice, got to get the one about the witches since I read the vamp chronicles, Stephen King because his books are better than the tv adaptations and when I am feeling raunchy I will read some Jackie Collins..... But then sometimes I just want to look at the pretty pictures so I will go over to my best friend's house and glance at some Playgirl......

[anniebc]

Anne Rice...Not too bad..read a couple of hers

Stephen King..not for me, I leave him to my oldest daughter.

Jackie Collins...Now that's good bed time reading...and I've read them all...

Can't say I've read or seen a Playgirl magazine...but I found plenty of Playboy magazines hidden around the house when the boys were in their teens...at least I think they belonged to the boys, never did ask my hubby if he knew anything about them...


Hugs
Jan

[Suntropic98]

My books cover a wide variety of things. One book is more of a personal diary about having HIV, being heterosexual, how we were deceived growing up by the Reagan Administration when AIDS first came out, the trials and tribulations that you go through, the abandoment by friends and family and it goes on to talk about how stonger it makes a person after breaking you down. It also describes how motive is given after finding out I was POZ to be an example for men like me and how it's ok to have this set back. The sad thing is I realize I am at the forefront of a new generation of HIV victims in America and despite that I see an opportunity.

The other books talk about global reform both socially and economically and gives ideas and explains them so that we can change. It is basically things most of you have not the slightest idea about.

The third book speaks about the demise of America and how we will crumble within due to our vices, mainly greed and what I call "the squabble of hierarchy". It talks about the lack of a push to advance science and how this will help lead to our unwraveling. It reveals stunning similarities to America and the great empires of the past and how we follow in their footsteps each day.

Of course the matierials cover many other things but this is not even a teaser I've told you. There is much more.

[milker]

It is basically things most of you have not the slightest idea about.

Woah a new philosopher ! I want an autograph please

So when are they scheduled for print?

Milker.

[Basquo]

It is basically things most of you have not the slightest idea about.

Son, if you're trying to market yourself or your books, that kind of statement is not going to win you fans.

[Miss Philicia]

It is basically things most of you have not the slightest idea about.

tee hee

[MOONLIGHT1114]

I won't read them  (insert Pac man theme for Queen, which is getting worn out at this point).

[thunter34]

I agree with philly.  That one made me giggle. 

Word to the wise:  This is a pretty smart group of Blow Job Ninjas^TM you are addressing.  We're clued in on more than you're giving us credit for.

Let's hope you don't address the readers of your books similarly.

PS:  I was expecting these to be Pop Up Books, to be honest.

[woodshere]

I will definitely read them, provided they make Oprah's Book of the Month or they are chosen for my church book club.

[Queen Tokelove]

Amazing but when can I expect a reply to your other thread Sun? Funny, how you can go on to say you are going to write or have started writing some books but I can't even get a reply to why you are a womanizer...I really would like an explanation since you seem to have the words to start 3 books but not the words to answer me. As you can see, I am not willing to let it go. So why not just answer the question, I need closure.....

[Miss Philicia]

I agree with philly.  That one made me giggle. 

Not sure if my giggle was interpreted correctly though.  I was actually laughing at how the straight guy just bitch slapped the board. 

Commendable, actually.  Plus he has nice tits.

[Dragonette]

Word to the wise:  This is a pretty smart group of Blow Job Ninjas^TM you are addressing. 

2nd LOL of the day...

[Queen Tokelove]

Speak for yourself, I AM NOT A BLOWJOB NINJA......

[Miss Philicia]

LIES

[Queen Tokelove]

LIES

And who is lying? Not I.....

[thunter34]

Speak for yourself, I AM NOT A BLOWJOB NINJA......

I am.

[Queen Tokelove]

Then Thunter Bunny, you should change the pronoun to I instead of We...Although you may think the term is cute and it may describe you, it certainly does not describe me.....

[ademas]

Plus he has nice tits.

If you assume they are his tits...then yes.

[thunter34]

Then Thunter Bunny, you should change the pronoun to I instead of We...Although you may think the term is cute and it may describe you, it certainly does not describe me.....

fine.  just count yourself out of the comment. 

[Andy Velez]

Hey y'all! Just a word of caution here. These exchanges keep edging around getting snarkier. At this rate there will be tears before bedtime. 

Please! Cool the snapperoos at each other.

Thanks for your cooperation.

[englishgirl]

sun
once again i ask you, why not get involved in some community education programmes? or if there arent any you like why not start your own? having these discussions here doesnt change anything. going out there does.

My books cover a wide variety of things. One book is more of a personal diary about having HIV, being heterosexual, how we were deceived growing up by the Reagan Administration when AIDS first came out, the trials and tribulations that you go through, the abandoment by friends and family and it goes on to talk about how stonger it makes a person after breaking you down. It also describes how motive is given after finding out I was POZ to be an example for men like me and how it's ok to have this set back. The sad thing is I realize I am at the forefront of a new generation of HIV victims in America and despite that I see an opportunity.

this especially speaks to me. ignoring certain comments you have made regarding women, if you really feel what you have written above then i challenge you to get out there among the negative and uneducated population and CHANGE THINGS

[Queen Tokelove]

fine.  just count yourself out of the comment. 

[camille07]

No offense, but I don't like to read about people's everyday struggles and challenges with HIV/Aids.  Its really depressing.  Oh wait, where am I....who are you people!!!

[whizzer]

I'm so disappointed.

I was hoping these books were going to be little, and black.

[Queen Tokelove]

I'm so disappointed.

I was hoping these books were going to be little, and black.

Hmm, who knows, he may even invite you to one of his parties with the blowjob ninjas. Don't forget to bring your cam for those applying to Blowjob Ninja Academy, so they can see what they need to do to pass the oral exam..

[Suntropic98]

Not sure if my giggle was interpreted correctly though.  I was actually laughing at how the straight guy just bitch slapped the board. 

Commendable, actually.  Plus he has nice tits.

I don't have tits, they're pecs. But thanks.

[Suntropic98]

Amazing but when can I expect a reply to your other thread Sun? Funny, how you can go on to say you are going to write or have started writing some books but I can't even get a reply to why you are a womanizer...I really would like an explanation since you seem to have the words to start 3 books but not the words to answer me. As you can see, I am not willing to let it go. So why not just answer the question, I need closure.....

Queen-

I am not a womanizer. Its just just men are better. We're bigger, we own everything and we actually think with our heads rather than our emotions. If you believe in God (I'm agnostic) then we came first, women were made from us not to mention the fact that this nation was founded by men and our society is male dominated. So you tell me, why am I the way I am? Maybe because it is embedded in our culture just like it is in most cultures. Understand? Yet that is not to say we should not respect women, they are humans just like us. They have all the rights we have and rightfully so. Without women there would be no men. Women offer a different perspective on life than we do, thus giving us the ability to make the right and moral choices. As an african american woman you should know this, that way of thinking is far more evident than in my culture. Just look at rap videos, NBA stars, NFL players, Gangs, african-amercian fraternities, all exemplify male dominance. Are you going to tell me you don't see this? Our government, society and economy are dominated by men. So why the shock?

[thunter34]

Queen-

I am not a womanizer. Its just just men are better. We're bigger, we own everything and we actually think with our heads rather than our emotions. If you believe in God (I'm agnostic) then we came first, women were made from us not to mention the fact that this nation was founded by men and our society is male dominated. So you tell me, why am I the way I am? Maybe because it is embedded in our culture just like it is in most cultures. Understand? Yet that is not to say we should not respect women, they are humans just like us. They have all the rights we have and rightfully so. Without women there would be no men. Women offer a different perspective on life than we do, thus giving us the ability to make the right and moral choices. As an african american woman you should know this, that way of thinking is far more evident than in my culture. Just look at rap videos, NBA stars, NFL players, Gangs, african-amercian fraternities, all exemplify male dominance. Are you going to tell me you don't see this? Our government, society and economy are dominated by men. So why the shock?

quoting this to make sure it stays around.  glad your TO gave you some quality time for introspection.

and i agree:  let's respect women...even though they aren't as good as us and aren't capable of rational thought. 


/ Edited to insert a potentially necessary    /

[structuredjen]

 

[Teresa]

Woman was made from mans rib to stand by his side...not from his ankle to be beneath him.

Teresa

[Suntropic98]

 

[Suntropic98]

Woman was made from mans rib to stand by his side...not from his ankle to be beneath him.

Teresa

Correct me if I'm wrong but women have just as many rights as men do and even moreso if you ask me with affirmative action and sexual harrassment laws. I never said women are lesser humans only that men make out better. Take a look around you. We get paid more, we get more awards, we own more, we are not affected by as many stds, we rule the world-and beyond, we are idolized by both sexes (few men want to be like women as opposed to a lot of women wanting to be like men)....the list can go on and on. I have not met a man yet that wishes he was like Oprah or Martha Stewart, and they're rich. From a religious perspective we were created in the image of god and woman from us. I'm stating the obvious here.

[Denver Toad]

I am not a womanizer. Its just men are better. We're bigger, we own everything and we actually think with our heads rather than our emotions.

This is classic maladaptive thinking Sun. Indicative of a complete lack of maturity in your attitudes concerning intimate relationships and your expressions of intimacy, power, and control. The principles and beliefs that you espouse reveal significant empirical and conceptual limitations.
If placing the sexes in a hierarchical order facilitates dichotomous thinking for you so be it. Dichotomous logic based on erroneous or faulty information is usually distorted and leads unrealistic expectations further eroding relationships while contributing to dysfunctional interaction. In short your world is a self-fulfilling delusional fantasy.

Sun, you are but a ticking time bomb with regards to relationships and your beliefs as to the place of women in your world. It’s but a matter of time before you will physically harm a woman. Yes, I meant that. You will harm them, if not worse, when they fail to live down to your expectations. It will likely be a woman who calls bullshit on your misogynistic view of life.
For your own good, for the good of all around you might want to consider some therapy. And in the meantime refrain from any relationships with women. No matter how downtrodden and deserving they may be of your magnanimous godlike presence.

[Iggy]

I never said women are lesser humans only that men make out better.

+

Queen-

I am not a womanizer. Its just just men are better. We're bigger, we own everything and we actually think with our heads rather than our emotions.

You know Sunny boy, if you are gonna go out on a limb on something then you really should see it through and not pretend you didn't say it.  You may rationalize all you want about the meaning, but the meaning of what you think you might have kinda said is not what you actually said in print.

Frankly I think you need to apologize about this and own up to it like a man.

[Miss Philicia]

I really don't understand this line of thinking.

[MOONLIGHT1114]

we are not affected by as many stds, we rule the world-and beyond, we are idolized by both sexes (few men want to be like women as opposed to a lot of women wanting to be like men)....the list can go on and on. I have not met a man yet that wishes he was like Oprah or Martha Stewart, and they're rich. From a religious perspective we were created in the image of god and woman from us. I'm stating the obvious here.

You have GOT to be kidding.  More STDs?  OK, guess I need to read up on that one. "Few men want to be like women...."  That's a very bold generalization.  Oprah and Martha aren't the only rich women in the world.

Sun, when are you going to stop bashing women?  We are all equal.  EQUAL, especially in these Forums.  Now c'mon and cut us, cut everyone, a break, with your trying to please all of us.

It never ends here.  Sheesh.

[Suntropic98]

Denver-

Wow. I am impressed. You have a vocab equal to mine. I bet 95% of the people on this board would not know the meaning of dichotomous without looking it up. You put a smile on my face.   If I may I ask, are you a man or woman?

I would like to lament that I would never hurt a woman physically. I never even thought about it.   Some women deserve a mental beat down just as some men do but nothing physical. Think total mind f*ck. I saw a friend of a friend slap a woman down once and it made me vomit. I opened the door to the limo and kicked him out the door.

This is classic maladaptive thinking Sun. Indicative of a complete lack of maturity in your attitudes concerning intimate relationships and your expressions of intimacy, power, and control. The principles and beliefs that you espouse reveal significant empirical and conceptual limitations.
If placing the sexes in a hierarchical order facilitates dichotomous thinking for you so be it. Dichotomous logic based on erroneous or faulty information is usually distorted and leads unrealistic expectations further eroding relationships while contributing to dysfunctional interaction. In short your world is a self-fulfilling delusional fantasy.

Sun, you are but a ticking time bomb with regards to relationships and your beliefs as to the place of women in your world. It’s but a matter of time before you will physically harm a woman. Yes, I meant that. You will harm them, if not worse, when they fail to live down to your expectations. It will likely be a woman who calls bullshit on your misogynistic view of life.
For your own good, for the good of all around you might want to consider some therapy. And in the meantime refrain from any relationships with women. No matter how downtrodden and deserving they may be of your magnanimous godlike presence.

[thunter34]

Denver-

Wow. I am impressed. You have a vocab equal to mine. I bet 95% of the people on this board would not know the meaning of dichotomous without looking it up. You put a smile on my face.   If I may I ask, are you a man or woman?

Well, before you get too impressed with yourself:  it's "profit"...not "prophet" 

Why would you be scared to tell your mother (or dad) about your status? Fear prophets a man nothing.

[Suntropic98]

You have GOT to be kidding.  More STDs?  OK, guess I need to read up on that one. "Few men want to be like women...."  That's a very bold generalization.  Oprah and Martha aren't the only rich women in the world.

Sun, when are you going to stop bashing women?  We are all equal.  EQUAL, especially in these Forums.  Now c'mon and cut us, cut everyone, a break, with your trying to please all of us.

It never ends here.  Sheesh.

Do your homework, Cindy. Bold generalization? Maybe, but it's true. Again I am not bashing chicks, I'm stating the obvious. The original conversation was between me and Queen who accused me as a womanizer. I simply gave her a run-down of what the world already knows.

[Suntropic98]

Well, before you get too impressed with yourself:  it's "profit"...not "prophet" 

LOL. You got me there mister cracklanta.  The whole religious thing was on my mind.

[MOONLIGHT1114]

I am respectfully leaving this thread.

[Suntropic98]

Respectfully, thank you.

[woodshere]

Some women deserve a mental beat down just as some men do but nothing physical. Think total mind f*ck.

No one, absolutely no one deserves a mental beat down.

 Having lived in a household where it was common for my  mom, sister and I to be put down  or told how stupid we were or how much of a fuck up we were at every opportunity I can guarantee you that the impact if far reaching.

[Basquo]

I have not met a man yet that wishes he was like Oprah or Martha Stewart, and they're rich.

I wish I was like Martha Stewart. Or hell, like Oprah, even. Both have been beaten down by men (in different ways) yet they are successful and respected (mostly) and hell yes, they are rich!

True, you haven't met me.  But I'm out there.

Good luck.

[Queen Tokelove]

Queen-

I am not a womanizer. Its just just men are better. We're bigger, we own everything and we actually think with our heads rather than our emotions. If you believe in God (I'm agnostic) then we came first, women were made from us not to mention the fact that this nation was founded by men and our society is male dominated. So you tell me, why am I the way I am? Maybe because it is embedded in our culture just like it is in most cultures. Understand? Yet that is not to say we should not respect women, they are humans just like us. They have all the rights we have and rightfully so. Without women there would be no men. Women offer a different perspective on life than we do, thus giving us the ability to make the right and moral choices. As an african american woman you should know this, that way of thinking is far more evident than in my culture. Just look at rap videos, NBA stars, NFL players, Gangs, african-amercian fraternities, all exemplify male dominance. Are you going to tell me you don't see this? Our government, society and economy are dominated by men. So why the shock?

First off, I am not going to debate religion with you and will just say I don't follow Christianity. I am also not going to bash men which is what it seems like you are trying to get me to do. Yes, there has been men running things since way back when but not all of them have done such bang up jobs. Look at how the world is now and who is running it. Would I like to see a woman be President and run things, I will not lie, yes, I would and thinks she would do a better job than who we got now.

Second, you make it seem like women are only here to serve men....It's ok to walk beside me but don't speak unless spoken to. Or we are here only to be pregnant and just for a good fuck. It's ok to for women to make money that way they can't ask for any from men. Are you looking around you, women are making money and doing damn good. And about Oprah, shit, you mean to say men wouldn't want to be her, maybe not but they would love to have what she has. I noticed Steadman ain't went no where..

For the record since you act like you seem to know me, I am 1/2 African American and 1/2 Puerto Rican, I don't claim just one heritage I claim both. I really don't follow your point when it comes to rap videos, there are female rappers out there just like men. And if you are speaking on terms of lyrics, female rappers can be just as talented and raw as the men so like I said, I don't see your point. And a lot of the female rappers that are out today wouldn't have even been noticed if it wasn't for the female pioneers like MC Lyte, Queen Latifah, and Salt -n- Pepa And to take it even further, they wouldn't have been who they were if not for women like Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, and Billie Holiday. Women were making progress even way back then and they were all black women since you want to take it there...And for all the other things you mentioned, there are female versions of them and some more popular than the males.

What amazes me is your thinking, it is outdated. And now that you have explained it, I feel like the women in your life are victims. You think women deserve a mental beat down?!!! And you pick your victims well. The ones you choose to lie down with, you make sure they are well intoxicated to the point that they don't remember much or the ones who are already emotional broken down that the only way they feel they are liked is if they are sucking your dick....Your precious Blowjob Ninjas...

[Queen Tokelove]

"The original conversation was between me and Queen who accused me as a womanizer.'

 And I still stand by what I said and you are the worse kind of abuser. The kind that doesn't leave any marks, physical ones but mental ones since they can't be seen right away or by the time they are seen it is too late, the damage has been done...

[Andy Velez]

I just want to say that it's powerful to read the life wisdom, pain, sadness and unwillingness to accept abuse that's  blazingly clear in what you've written, Queen.

My respect,

[Jody]

 All of the world's major religions were invented by men, hence the (ancient Jewish) philosophy that "man was made in the image of God and woman from man") - Eve from the rib of Adam - is male invented and male dominated thinking to keep males in power. Science and evolution were taboo.

 In the old days women were indeed worshiped as Godesses but humans were robbed of these gifts especially at the onset of Christianity as it was in man's best interest to denigrate women as being lesser than and not equal to men...Women were burned as witches for providing society with such gifts as herbal remedies, midwife procedures to aid in child-birth and rational thought to make people healthier, happier and more whole...The male dominated religions insisted only in a belief structure such as faith in the Lord Christ only and all else is evil, blasphemous and deserving of an awful death and they and their followers over the centuries were responsible for torturing and killing millions of innocents in the name of the God they so cunningly created, largely as a way of keeping power and maintaining wealth it created.

Jody 

[Queen Tokelove]

I just want to say that it's powerful to read the life wisdom, pain, sadness and unwillingness to accept abuse that's  blazingly clear in what you've written, Queen.

My respect,

 If you are asking have I experienced abuse first hand, the answer would be yes, both physical and mental. Some women never recover from what their abusers did to them. I still have some of the scars, more mental I guess than physical  and one thing I swore to myself is that I would never be anyone's victim again.


Modified to remove a line after reading Andy's post over again...

[Matty the Damned]

In our history as a species the greatest crime that has ever been committed is not racism or homophobia, but sexism. It beggars belief that women (who make up just over half of the human race) can still be treated with cavalier disrespect and rendered as nothing more than mindless cock-sockets by foolish males.

This thread and several others have been despicable. Not just because of the increasingly vile comments of Suntropic98, but the because of the silence of the rest of us in response to what he's said.

Save for Queen Akasha. Her Majesty was never silent.

Sure a number of us would burr up occasionally, but none of us ever, really took him on, except for Akasha who argued the case of women, sometimes when her own membership here was in peril. She was consistent, dogged and remorseless in her campaign to rebut his lies about women. And she has been proven right.

She sets an example for all of us, should we be wise enough to learn from it.

Yes Suntropic98 should have been banned, but not because he quibbled with the decisions of one or two of our overworked Moderators. He should have been banned for the stunning degree of sexism that he displayed in almost every post he made here.

And yes I know that grave dancing is a bannable offence, but what the fuck? The Queen opened herself to considerable risk of being banned for combating Sunny's hatred of woman, I'm more than happy to do the same in singing her praises.

With respect,

MtD

[bryonut]

G-d Save the Queen!
 

[Queen Tokelove]

Thank you, Matty. I appreciate your words. They mean the world to me. I tried my best to try to understand where Sun was coming from but to me, the only thing that spewed from his mouth was ignorance. It was like he thrived off of starting some type of controversy. Because of the abuse that I dealt with in the past, I will admit that I did take it personal.

I tried to keep it on point but lost it. I did know that I could very well be given a time out but in the same token I am glad I was allowed to be heard. And it was appreciated more because none of you knew the abuse I had to endure. It also showed me that I still have some personal issues that I need to deal with. But more importantly if there is anyone on these forums dealing with abuse that they don't have to put up with it and that they don't have to continue being a victim.

[Dragonette]

I tried to keep it on point but lost it. I did know that I could very well be given a time out but in the same token I am glad I was allowed to be heard.

TY Queen, I salute you. I for one have taken the extensive & repeated mod warnings, in this and the other thread very seriously like the meek woman that I am 

Your comments were spot-on. He is such a classic woman hater. There are so many guys like him where I am from. Just 2 days ago, two 13 year old boys raped a 12 year old girl they drugged with vodka and rohipnol, but they claim that the girl "arrived drunk" (she was found naked and unconscious by one of the boys fathers in the morning; it took more than a day to revive her). Even the former president is a serial sex offender. Seriously.

And to the OP: you could probably really benefit from regular doses of Lithium. How many books did you write this week on topics no one knows a thing about but yourself (who said prophet?)? And how much money did you spend? Do you often go around in limos?