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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #300 on: August 12, 2007, 06:57:48 pm »
I like the fur boots and the white teeth... work!
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #301 on: August 12, 2007, 07:00:05 pm »
Brent!!
They are not girl jeans!
The girl at the boutique said they are unisex jeans.
Aside they accentuate my assets.
 :P

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #302 on: August 12, 2007, 07:02:46 pm »
LOOK AT THIS MESSAGE I JUST GOT!!!!
IS SHE KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!
HELLO WOMAN I AM POSITIVE!!!


Jess,

I deleted the post you made in a thread in the Long Term Survivors thread.

As someone who is NOT hiv positive, you should not be posting in any forum other than the Am I Infected forums or the Off Topic forum. Please do not post outside these forums again. You can be banned from the website for this type of activity.

Also, posting 32 photos in one post is over the top. Please think about the bandwidth you are using and show some restraint. Please. Some of our members are on dial-up connections and posting so many photos can make it difficult for them to download the page.

Thank you for your cooperation.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #303 on: August 12, 2007, 07:08:11 pm »
LOOK AT THIS MESSAGE I JUST GOT!!!!
IS SHE KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!
HELLO WOMAN I AM POSITIVE!!!



No you're not: http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=1535.0

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=6758656&blogID=298506561

You ARE, however, very close to being banned from this forum.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #304 on: August 12, 2007, 07:10:07 pm »
HELLO ANN,

I BECAME POSITIVE FEB 07!

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #305 on: August 12, 2007, 07:12:50 pm »
For those who can't bring themselves to wade through the shrieking hot-pink nightmare that is Jesse's myspace page, herewith a pertinent section from his latest blog dated 12 August 2007:

The scariest part about this epidemic is the underground guys/girls who continue to spread the virus. It's absolutely inhumane and heartless but it happens. There are guys out there who continue to pass on the virus and consider themselves, "the seed givers". If a guy ever told me, "I am going to give you my seed," I would probably be like, "Your disgusting, get off of me, and get a life scum bag". I personally never have had a problem dating a positive guy. I haven't knowingly had sex with a positive guy, but I have kissed, made out, and have gone to second base with a positive guy. I mean in today's world it's inevitable! If you have had more than 10 sexual partners you most likely have slept with someone positive. As I was saying, these seed givers pass on the virus because they feel that they have the power of life in a sense. I can't help but to think these people want to play god. They feel that because they have the power to infect you with a life threatening illness they can determine whether or not you live on. That is just sick!


/Emphasis added by Matty the Damned/

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #306 on: August 12, 2007, 07:16:39 pm »
hey hey hey my page is not shrieking and everyone can make their own opinions.
did you read the whole blog and not just a paragraph?

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #307 on: August 12, 2007, 07:21:21 pm »
I've read the whole blog and you certainly don't talk as though you're positive - and yes, people can read it and judge for themselves. I don't think they'll come to any conclusion different than mine.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #308 on: August 12, 2007, 07:23:33 pm »
This is all I had to read: 
Quote
Yes, HIV is a chronic disease. You take your pill once a day (for most people its once a day) and you move along like normal. I mean some people don't need pills for years or ever because their bodies do a great job at fighting that virus.
  and even though I'm potentially a LTNP, I take offense.

Sorry for continuing the hijack.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #309 on: August 12, 2007, 07:26:55 pm »
On a much more narcissistic note, Jessie:

Three-inch rise is not an option for men still in possession of their equipment. But I do give you 7.75 points for finding this thread. That should outweigh a portion of the demerits for being rude to out Global Moderator, Ann, but not many

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #310 on: August 12, 2007, 07:27:14 pm »
When I became positive I didnt knowingly sleep with a positive guy.
He didnt say anything. In febuary of 07 I got very sick and my results came back poz.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS THAT I HAVE TO DO THIS!!!
YOU GUYS CAN BE vicious!!!


« Last Edit: August 12, 2007, 07:58:37 pm by jessem3s »

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #311 on: August 12, 2007, 07:27:53 pm »
I thought negativos can post in Off Topic anyway... you know, like JeffreyNNYC

(of course however, I do not endorse lying about ones status...)
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #312 on: August 12, 2007, 07:28:30 pm »
This is all I had to read:    and even though I'm potentially a LTNP, I take offense.

Sorry for continuing the hijack.

Creightie-

Bear in mind we're talking about a self-obsessed 19-year old. At least she can use spell-check.
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #313 on: August 12, 2007, 07:28:47 pm »
Jesse,

Rest assured that Matty the Damned went through your MySpace page and associated train-wreck of a blog with a fine toothed comb. That paragraph was all he could responsibly impose on his friends here in the Forums. If they wanna endure more of the "Jesse Show", they can tune in for themselves.

MtD

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #314 on: August 12, 2007, 07:30:18 pm »
I thought negativos can post in Off Topic anyway... you know, like JeffreyNNYC

(of course however, I do not endorse lying about ones status...)

They can, but as Ann said not in Long Term Survivors.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #315 on: August 12, 2007, 07:31:26 pm »

YOU GUYS CAN BE vicious!!!



Oh darling, you haven't seen us warmed up yet.

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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #316 on: August 12, 2007, 07:32:06 pm »
They can, but as Ann said not in Long Term Survivors.

Either I'm blind or an entire thread was deleted/moved (?) because I don't see this infraction in his old postings.  Did this just occur today?
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #317 on: August 12, 2007, 07:36:41 pm »
Either I'm blind or an entire thread was deleted/moved (?) because I don't see this infraction in his old postings.  Did this just occur today?

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #318 on: August 12, 2007, 07:37:46 pm »
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #319 on: August 12, 2007, 07:39:24 pm »
Some people are so crazy on here.
Its so funny how you guys have to be proved wrong.
For someone to point the finger and say, "you are not poz" and scrutinize me to the point that I had to put my lab results out there is absolutely extreme.
WOW.

I feel alot of hostility in a so called friendly place.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #320 on: August 12, 2007, 07:40:30 pm »
Philly,

I deleted his post in LTS.

Jess,

OK, I apologise. Maybe if you could post an introduction of yourself, before you go posting 32 photos in one post (for the reasons stated above) you might not arouse so much scrutiny. Based on what I had to go on, it certainly looked as though you were negative. No where, either in you My Space pages, or your bio on your profile do you say you are positive.

As for the 32 photos, I would appreciate it if you would take some of them out. You can post a link to your My Space page so people can see them there.

And are you sure you want your work ID photo to be up on the internet?

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #321 on: August 12, 2007, 07:42:49 pm »
Some people are so crazy on here.
Its so funny how you guys have to be proved wrong.
For someone to point the finger and say, "you are not poz" and scrutinize me to the point that I had to put my lab results out there is absolutely extreme.
WOW.

I feel alot of hostility in a so called friendly place.


Oh ratchet down the drama, Jesus.

You didn't introduce yourself and all we had to go on was your old thread from Am I Infected, your myspace page and blogs (which do you no credit) and your forums profile.

If you'd thought before you posted you could have avoided all of this. Our reactions were entirely understandable.

MtD

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #322 on: August 12, 2007, 07:43:32 pm »
They can, but as Ann said not in Long Term Survivors.

And despite his sartorial excesses, he cannot post in the Positive Women's Forum, either.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #323 on: August 12, 2007, 07:44:21 pm »
Can this thread GET BACK ON TOPIC NOW?



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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #324 on: August 12, 2007, 07:44:45 pm »
so you're really poz!


....congratulations?
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #325 on: August 12, 2007, 07:45:45 pm »
Some people are so crazy on here.
Its so funny how you guys have to be proved wrong.
For someone to point the finger and say, "you are not poz" and scrutinize me to the point that I had to put my lab results out there is absolutely extreme.
WOW.

I feel alot of hostility in a so called friendly place.

Jessie-

The way it goes is you post an intro thread in Living With, we all say hello, get to know each other a little bit, then dish like cats in the OT.

Doesn't seem too difficult?

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #326 on: August 12, 2007, 07:46:37 pm »
Can this thread GET BACK ON TOPIC NOW?



There you are, doll-

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #327 on: August 12, 2007, 07:47:38 pm »
Jesse, I’m not saying you’re not HIV+. You’ve posted the proof. But please read the terms of participation for this site, and please show respect to the moderators.

Regarding the part of your blog that I quoted, I can tell you that I personally don’t know of anyone who takes just one pill a day, and by “of anyone” I mean that I’m sure I have friends on this website that do, but we haven’t discussed their med regimen enough for me to know that.  Maybe I need to get out more, but I think that your perception of treatment is incorrect, and possibly harmful.

Peace,
Creighton

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #328 on: August 12, 2007, 07:48:36 pm »
Thank you Babe,.

Another piece to my "Bucko puzzle" I'm putting together...


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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #329 on: August 12, 2007, 07:49:37 pm »
I can't read his test results...I would put on my glasses, but I am too vain.

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« Reply #330 on: August 12, 2007, 07:49:53 pm »
This is for Dan and AD, who requested it earlier.



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« Reply #331 on: August 12, 2007, 07:50:44 pm »
This is for Dan and AD, who requested it earlier.



I said the bottom of your feet ya daft girl. :P

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« Reply #332 on: August 12, 2007, 07:52:25 pm »

Another piece to my "Bucko puzzle" I'm putting together...


something about that sounds hot and eerie at the same time
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #333 on: August 12, 2007, 07:52:52 pm »
You know what they say about guys with big feet... :o

Dan

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #334 on: August 12, 2007, 07:53:18 pm »
Can this thread GET BACK ON TOPIC NOW?



OK FINE DAN!!!

Arent I pretty?   :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

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« Reply #335 on: August 12, 2007, 07:53:35 pm »
You know what they say about guys with big feet... :o

Dan

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big shoes
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« Reply #336 on: August 12, 2007, 07:55:44 pm »
OK FINE DAN!!!

Arent I pretty?   :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Yes Dear, you are. You wearin' that to the Meet & Greet?

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« Reply #337 on: August 12, 2007, 07:55:55 pm »
big feet=big pumps


big nose=big boogers

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« Reply #338 on: August 12, 2007, 07:57:43 pm »
this thread needs a soundtrack.  and who better?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUVjKpbWeLc



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« Reply #339 on: August 12, 2007, 07:58:16 pm »
What do they say about big nipples?
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #340 on: August 12, 2007, 07:59:54 pm »
i like my girl jeans!! Leave me alone hahahah  ;D

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« Reply #341 on: August 12, 2007, 09:36:40 pm »
Testie...

You have long not been the youngest in this thread. :) 23 here, sir.

and Mouse still trumps Jesse.
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #342 on: August 12, 2007, 09:54:07 pm »
What i am 19?

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #343 on: August 12, 2007, 09:56:39 pm »
Testie...

You have long not been the youngest in this thread. :) 23 here, sir.

and Mouse still trumps Jesse.

ooops, sorry, chalk it up to the drunken stupor I have spent this entire weekend in.
and thanks for saying   "long not been the youngest"  lol.....I'm 32, not dead!
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« Reply #344 on: August 12, 2007, 11:08:50 pm »
I have been here for a few days and this forum has been wonderful for me. how do we as fellow forum posters know if the other members are really HIV +  this is sort of confusing. Hugs, JeffreyM
« Last Edit: August 12, 2007, 11:15:30 pm by JeffreyM »

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« Reply #345 on: August 12, 2007, 11:13:05 pm »
post deleted as I got lost in the multiple threads, youtube experience, and alcohol, lol.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2007, 11:17:09 pm by tester8888 »
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« Reply #346 on: August 12, 2007, 11:16:26 pm »
I have only been a member of this club since July 27, and, I can say that I have noticed these type of conversations/diversions, from day 1.

 ??? >:(

That's sad to hear.

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« Reply #347 on: August 12, 2007, 11:25:49 pm »
Jeffrey,

Don't stress too much doll. Internet communities are funny places. Christ help you if you come blundering in and upset the delicate balance of things.

If it's any comfort, you should know that the occasional outbreaks of hairpulling you might see here from time to time - they're nothing compared to the knock-em-down, drag-em-out brawls of a couple of years back.

Ah. Good times. :)

Rather than fret about the occasional hit and spit from some of us more crotchety types, you should take a look at the good stuff which goes down here. I think you'll agree it more than outweighs the total number of hissyfits.

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« Reply #348 on: August 12, 2007, 11:29:17 pm »
Hi Matty, In my 50 something prior posts and spending a few hours on this board I have not seen anyting like this.  I have already met some very wonderful people.  I won't stress!   Thanks  JeffreyM

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #349 on: August 12, 2007, 11:31:39 pm »
Jeffery-

I hope you don't mind us neggies playing in the fun off-topic forums too.
I came to this site because of the link that said "Someone I Care About Has HIV".  
This has been a god-send for me (ooops, I am athesist, anyway), and I truly appreciate all the wonderful information that it has, and the wonderful personalities I have met.
I really don't know where or how I would be right now, had I not landed here.  And I hope that I am able to continue to be a part of this wonderful place!     :-*
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