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Off Topic Forums => Off Topic Forum => Topic started by: J.R.E. on March 11, 2011, 02:17:54 am
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Tsumami warnings now in effect...
The live footage of the tsunami going over Japan is horrific.
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Tsunami just hit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12709598
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af197/bedstuy65/Japanquake000_Hkg4676011595.jpg)
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Tsunami Warnings:
http://www.weather.gov/ptwc/
http://www.weather.gov/ptwc/text.php?id=hawaii.2011.03.11.073148
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Man.. by sheer coincident I was in a Japanese restaurant having a working lunch when it happened. Then we all heard one of the Japanese chefs talking very loud over the phone and looking really shaken. I do have several friends in Japan but no one lives near the epic center, but lets hope that they're OK.
It looks like the tsunami will be hitting Taiwan just about now.. and from what we hear in Hong Kong those in Taiwan should be OK as they have plenty of time to get moving.
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I have Los Angeles set in my phones weather app and I got warning message of tsunami warnings for west coast. I knew something big must have happened, because you don't see those everyday. Watching news now and saw video of water pulling away from beach like happened a few years ago. Seeing first waves to hit Hawaii at 8am. I hope the death toll is minimal. 8.9! This is going to be awful.
10-11am EST estimated time tsunami could hit west coast. I would think it would lose its punch across the Pacific. Watching video of Japan parliament when quake hit. Japan saying nuclear power plants were not damaged.
Edited to add more info
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After reading some new reports I am getting more worried about my friends and some former colleagues in Tokyo.. :-\
Hawaii was also just hit by a 4.6 quakes.
Somehow my thoughts just link it to all those recent massive fish death, the most recent one in LA. I also wonder if our planet is entering an active earthquakes period.
Sigh...
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God help all those in Japan...it's just horrific, so may lives lost already.
In sadness
Jan :'(
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God help all those in Japan...it's just horrific, so may lives lost already.
In sadness
Jan :'(
Ditto, the devastation is just horrific.
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Thinking about the people in Japan. My friends were blocked five hours at standstill in the bullet train to Tokyo but alright, they made it to the hotel, no water, but alive.
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Hawaii was also just hit by a 4.6 quakes.
Unrelated darling -- stick with the eruption of Mount Karangetang hours after the Japanese earthquake. :) Ring of Fire and all that. And it's amazing that this is the strongest earthquake in recorded history in a country that is so widely associated with earthquakes.
edit: 2-300 bodies were just found on a beach near Sendai
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According to electric power companies, 4.4 million households in northeastern Japan are without power. Nearly 4-million more households are also under a blackout in the Tokyo Metropolitan area.
The Meteorological Agency is warning of more possible tsunami and aftershocks. It says people in areas where major tsunami warnings are in effect should evacuate to safer ground.
Friday, March 11, 2011 20:37 +0900 (JST) (source NHK WORLD)
Direct link to English version of the NHK (Japan Broadcasting Company)
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/11_53.html (http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/11_53.html)
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It seems for me that the end of the world approaching very fast. People are hit by tsunami, earthquake and flood. And governments boycott ADAP, employees bargaining right is being rebuff, budget cut every where. etc... I don't know what is going on. :o
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It seems for me that the end of the world approaching very fast. People are hit by tsunami, earthquake and flood. And governments boycott ADAP, employees bargaining right is being rebuff, budget cut every where. etc... I don't know what is going on. :o
The End is near. Yes.
I just saw that Japan will be releasing radioactive vapor from a nuclear plant to try to prevent it's meltdown. My heart goes out to all those affected by this disaster.
-W
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I just saw video of skyscrapers swaying back and forth. Wow! I know they are designed to do that, but that is scary. I know our skyscrapers sway, but you don't see or notice it. I'm trying to find some video on the internet to post. I also just heard, what I had thought, that after an earthquake over 8.0, we see an increase in earthquakes around the world.
And, hearing the planned nuclear gas release at the nuclear plant has caused radiation outside to be 8 times higher than normal--possibly higher. I'm hearing experts say Japan has prepared for a big event, but has not prepared for the worst case senerio when it comes to protecting the nuclear power plants. I'm surprised they don't have more redundant systems. They have lost control of 2 reactors and this could lead to a melt-down.
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http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/ (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/)
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This is severely freaky... The live coverage of the tsunami was .. quite frankly scary, it was hard to grasp the scale of the wave, until you see saw it pick up a house...
Did they say how far it went inland at all?
It does seem like the severity and regularity of natural disasters is changing of late... makes you wonder whats going to happen next!
J
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I just saw that Japan will be releasing radioactive vapor from a nuclear plant to try to prevent it's meltdown.
-W
This seems to be the focus of the news media this morning. There is not much time left before the meltdown occurs.
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I feel terrible for all the people affected by this. My partner was supposed to be in Toyko when the earthquake hit but traded his trip.
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My heart goes out to all the people affected by this disaster.
Regarding the nuclear power plants - I am amazed the Japanese government ever allowed them, given Japan's history of frequent earthquakes. Fair enough, they're usually much more mild, but a big one like this was always a possibility. And the threat of earthquakes, coupled with their first-hand experience of what nukes can do, both immediately and in the future.... well, it just boggles my mind that they ever went with the nuclear power option. "Clean" power? Potentially deadly, potentially maiming power more like.
I heard a report on BBC news (about an hour ago) that major damage to the reactor where there has been an explosion was "unlikely", but it was also admitted that very little is actually known about what happened and they don't (yet) know exactly what type of explosion it was.
The combined damage of the earthquakes, aftershocks and tsunami is bad enough, I just hope a meltdown isn't added to the fray.
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Amazing yet frieghtening. I feel for the people caught up in all of this.
I suspect that we are in for more earthly disasters.
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Damn...CNN and all the others reporting "likely meltdown" occuring of two of the nuclear reactors.
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Damn...CNN and all the others reporting "likely meltdown" occuring of two of the nuclear reactors.
I am watching a live feed from Japan State Television and they are saying the same thing.
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Regarding the nuclear power plants - I am amazed the Japanese government ever allowed them, given Japan's history of frequent earthquakes.
Ann, it's interesting to note that the structures suffered no damage from the quakes, the problems have come from the massive tsunami's that flooded the generators and have made cooling them impossible. It sounds weird and almost illogical that a power plant could be flooded out of power but that's what's happened.
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I am watching a live feed from Japan State Television and they are saying the same thing.
you got a link? my search engines are FAIL right now...
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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv)
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/info/jump2.html (http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/info/jump2.html)
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BREAKING NEWS FROM JAPAN TV:
Japan quake magnitude raised to 9.0
Japan's Meteorological Agency says the magnitude of Friday's earthquake that hit the Pacific coast of northeastern Japan was 9.0 instead of 8.8 as earlier announced.
The agency made the correction on Sunday morning after analyzing seismic waves and other data. The magnitude is equivalent to that of the 2004 earthquake off Sumatra, Indonesia, which triggered massive tsunamis in the Indian Ocean.
The agency says the focal zone of Friday's quake was about 500-kilometers long and 200-kilometers wide. Destructive movement along the fault continued for more than 5 minutes.
The Meteorological Agency says only 4 other quakes in the world have recorded magnitudes of 9 or over.
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It is amazing what earthquakes can do. News reports say the island of Japan moved 8 feet, or 2.4 meters, east. It also affected the Earth's axis. The nuclear issue is scary. That video of the explosion from Saturday was amazing. They say that was due to a build up of hydrogen. Experts are saying if the core container was breached, it would have been devasting. They are now pumping in sea water in an effort to cool the reactor.
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Ann, it's interesting to note that the structures suffered no damage from the quakes, the problems have come from the massive tsunami's that flooded the generators and have made cooling them impossible. It sounds weird and almost illogical that a power plant could be flooded out of power but that's what's happened.
Yep, I'm fully aware that it was the tsunamis that caused the problem. However, tsunamis and earthquakes go hand in hand - earthquakes are what create tsunamis. I still can't shake the idea that it's a bit crazy for Japan to have nuclear power. It just makes no sense to me.
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the sunday paper " Dallas Morning News " had a great very explicit graphic showing the steps as it went from quake to flood to overheat to "explosion" and sea water cooling
( actual explosion was hydrogen gas created from overheating of the fuel rods)
with explanations of each step/ occurrence... the specific cause of overheat was the flood that killed the Backup generators which shut down the pumps then the battery backups weren't enough to run all the pumps....... a real classic case of waterfall disaster scenario.
( how many backups do you put in place?)
Nick
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There is a sense of irony in the fact that the United States dropped two hydrogen bombs on Japan to end the second world war and now Japan faces a "nuclear disaster" because of this quake/tsunami. Didn't they learn from the horrors of WWII? I can only pray that they come through this, it's hard to fathom that I am watching, probably, the greatest natural disaster of my lifetime.
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It's cheap and clean. That's why they chose to use nuclear power.
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It's cheap and clean. That's why they chose to use nuclear power.
It is neither cheap or clean. don't believe the hype.
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It is neither cheap or clean. don't believe the hype.
Well, its clean if theres no leaks!
Australia has enough desert to put a few reactors in the middle of, and we're geologically stable (unlike japan)... admittedly, cooling a reactor in the desert might suck a bit though, lol
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We have a half dozen nuke plants in Texas. It's not cheap and I have not noticed any benefit. We still had rolling blackouts when the temp got down to freezing.
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BREAKING NEWS---
There has been a new blast at the nuclear plant. Officials are saying there has been some damage to containment structure. They are saying half of the control rods were exposed at No. 2 Reactor and that radiation levels increased to levels that can impact human health. They are saying anyone within 30 kilometers (19 miles) to stay indoors and there is a very high risk of further release of radioactive material. They are pulling back employees and telling the media to stay away. Something more serious has obviously happened than happened before.
If the winds blow to the south, then Tokyo will be affected. This does not sound good.
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Tsunami waves send ships crashing into highway
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/tsunami-waves-send-ships-crashing-into-highway/6i68nvw?src=v5:share:v5:share:permalink&from=sharepermalink-v5:share:permalink
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It is neither cheap or clean. don't believe the hype.
It's cleaner and cheaper than coal for the Japanese.
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My heart does go out for all those people who are living in Japan. Especially the ones who pretty much lost everything they own and now have to deal with a radically different world to live in. The whole radiation thing scares the shit out of me. There is a nuclear plan less than 30 miles away from where I live today and just in the last year alone there have been two shutdowns due to minor safety issues. That makes me a little nervous to say the least.
Nobody knows what the outcome will be from the damaged power plants in Japan. Folks on the west coast of the USA are stocking up on iodine tablets in case radiation heads this way. Officials try to downplay this but the public should still be prepared for the worst.
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There is a nuclear plan less than 30 miles away from where I live today and just in the last year alone there have been two shutdowns due to minor safety issues. That makes me a little nervous to say the least.
We've got the Crystal river plant, north of us. But, I believe it's been off-line for about two years. It's due to go back online, sometime this year. It's now owned by those Duke boys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_River_3_Nuclear_Power_Plant
Ray
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Something I didn't know, but heard on the news today, Japan has 55 ( or 57 ) nuclear plants. :o
Ray
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Nobody knows what the outcome will be from the damaged power plants in Japan. Folks on the west coast of the USA are stocking up on iodine tablets in case radiation heads this way. Officials try to downplay this but the public should still be prepared for the worst.
Just a point of clarification.
Iodine tablets (like the kind used for water purification), aren't the right stuff. It has to be Potassium Iodide, which from what I can find, is a strictly controlled substance.
Like Hope and everyone else, I can't even fathom the enormity of what the people in Japan have/are experiencing.
The earthquake led to the tsunami, the tsunami led to the nuclear disaster, this series of events is something I can't even get my mind around.
RAB
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The media, not content with a horrible natural disaster, has to make a bigger story about a fucking partial meltdown, whatever that actually entails. 10,000 plus may have perished and everytime I turn on the news they're on about whether there's a fire in reactor no 2 or whether explosion no 3 partially exposed the core in reactor no 4; the main impact of this reporting seems to be turning everyone on the planet into armchair nuclear scientists.
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And now there's Gilbert Gottfried chiming in on Twitter:
"I just broke up with my girlfirend, but as the Japanese say...there'll be another one floating along any minute".
Are you even believing?
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ABC News gives a reality check on radiation. According to them--Each year, all of us are exposed to about 3.5 Millisieverts (whatever that means) of radiation. That is about 67 chest x-rays or 134 cross-country plane trips. In order to get radiation sickness, you need to be exposed to 1,000 millisieverts at once. A fatal dose is 5,000 millisieverts. I was surprised we are exposed to the equivalant of 67 chest x-rays, because everyone acts like it is a big deal to have more than a couple per year. I had a few when sick and everyone acted like I was going to get lung cancer. Granite has been another hot topic lately with some saying it can cause illness--especially certain types of granite. After hearing all that, I began wondering if we should have gone with laminate instead. When the reporter puts the Geiger Counter up to a granite statue, it went off big-time. But, he said it was perfectly safe.
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/radiation-reality-check-13143742
And now there's Gilbert Gottfried chiming in on Twitter:
"I just broke up with my girlfirend, but as the Japanese say...there'll be another one floating along any minute".
Are you even believing?
Elisabeth Hasselbeck told me today on The View that Aflac got rid of him, because 75% of their business is in Japan. She wondered, if that wasn't true whether they would have fired him.
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9.0 EARTHQUAKE DEVASTATES JAPAN...FIFTH LARGEST SINCE 1900...STRONGEST EVER TO STRIKE JAPAN
The jokes about Japan are not funny when people are still trying to find their loved ones. Poor taste is one thing but trashiness is another. On a side-note, Japan suffered another 3 earthquakes yesterday at 6.0 or above on the Richter scale and as of this posting, 12:41AM CDT, have had another one at 6.0. Yesterday and today they have had 52 aftershocks and earthquakes. The situation there is grave to say the least.
I spent some time in Japan while I was in the Air Force and they are a marvelous people and show incredible strength at times like this but they are hurting really bad. There is good reason to be concerned about the nuke plants. The Japanese HATE having to ask anyone for anything so the fact that they have asked for help with their reactors is beyond significant.
:'(
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i've been finding the coverage pretty close to terrifying (of the tsunami), I am amazed by how calm (or shell shocked?) the japanese people seem to be
Can only hope that the best and brightest of their scientists can defuse the situation with their reactors, so they can start to rebuild the soooo many shattered lives
sadly, i think that death toll is going to go up quite a bit :-(
J
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I am amazed by how calm (or shell shocked?) the japanese people seem to be
They have an indomitable spirit. They are very honor bound as well, evidenced in the lack of looting and the patient waiting in lines for food, water. They also revere their elderly, I heard that food rations were going first to the elderly and children and then if there was any left it would go to the others. I can guarantee you things would be totally different if this would have occured in the US (and not in a good way).
Quite a nice people, and an amazingly beautiful country. My heart continues to go out to them.\
-W
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Have been told B.M.W. are pulling all there staff out off Tokyo, ditto other European firms. Anyone else heard/read this please State source.
t
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Japan earthquake: Britons told to consider Tokyo exit
The Foreign Office has advised Britons to consider leaving Tokyo and north-east Japan following Friday's quake, tsunami and subsequent radiation fears.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12765593 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12765593)
MOSCOW, March 16 (Itar-Tass) -- Russia is evacuating the families of its employees in Japan, the Foreign Ministry said on Wednesday, March 16.
“Due to the current situation in Japan, the decision has been made for the families of employees of Russian institutions in Japan, including the Embassy in Tokyo, the consulates general and the trade mission, to leave the country temporarily, tentatively on March 18,” the ministry said.
“No evacuation of the employees of our diplomatic missions, and employees of other Russian governmental institutions in Japan is being considered at the moment,” the ministry said.
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=16052950 (http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=16052950)
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Below is a report on the heartbreaking search for possible survivors or even the dead. There is even a dog that rushed to rescue workers and leads them back to its injured or sick canine friend. I've seen this before where dogs will try to take care of another injured dog. I can't imagine searching, calling out for people to respond, and leaving. I would always wonder whether there was someone alive, but just couldn't respond.
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/search-survivors-continues-aftermath-people-searching-signs-life-tsunami-earthquake-meltdown-13152520
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Hey gang, I just stumbled across a high resolution of the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant...
(http://i51.tinypic.com/90yur8.jpg)
http://i51.tinypic.com/90yur8.jpg
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This is by far the worst of the tsunami videos I've seen -- evidently it not surfaced on line until a few days ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b-2iByqHVI
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This is by far the worst of the tsunami videos I've seen -- evidently it not surfaced on line until a few days ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b-2iByqHVI
Jesus that's terrifying, and it seems so slow and placid.
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This is by far the worst of the tsunami videos I've seen -- evidently it not surfaced on line until a few days ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b-2iByqHVI
I don't know if the person filming the video was on a structure or an embankment but I don't think I would be standing around filming if I was in that situation.
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I don't know if the person filming the video was on a structure or an embankment but I don't think I would be standing around filming if I was in that situation.
I was thinking the exact same thing while watching it but during a Tsunami I guess high ground is the only safety you can reasonably find?
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I don't know if the person filming the video was on a structure or an embankment but I don't think I would be standing around filming if I was in that situation.
He she may have had no choice. May have been trapped there and just took the highest most stable building as refuge. Since we have the video we can assume he she survived, thank god. How terrifying.
When the tsunami a few years ago hit the Maldives whole islands when under water. Imagine!
http://www.asiantsunamivideos.com/