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Offline wonder

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group oral sex risk?
« on: February 29, 2012, 07:24:46 am »
i had sex with a guy i met online. i gave him a oral sex without protection but he didn't ejaculate in my mouth but i tasted some precum. i didn't have any cuts or sores in my mouth. we didnt have lube so i didnt allow him to enter me. so he just rubbed his penis on my butt. he pointed his penis on my anus. sometimes i feel he presses it too deep. i don't know if a part of his penis entered me. ive never had anal sex so i dont know the feeling if he has entered his dick on me. i just feel pressure on my butthole. we tried putting it inside but we used a condom when we tried. i cant stand the pain so he just continued pointing his bare dick on my butthole.

questions:

1. should i be worried?
2. what are my risks? he was pressing his dick deep and hard on my anus and there is precum present. can i get infected if he has hiv? im worried that his precum touching my anus is a risk. the precum might have gotten inside me. and i didn't know if sometimes the tip of his penis has already entered me since i havent been entered anally.
3. when does the mucuos membrane / danger zone in the anus start? is the outside and the pink flesh which is visible already considered a mucuous membrane?
4. when we tried to put his penis inside me he wore a condom. but when he was putting on the condom his hand might have precum so he might have put some precum outside the condom. when he tried to enter me some precum must have went inside me? is that a risk? note that he wasnt able to enter me fully because it was my first time and i told him to stop when he was entering me because it's painful. not sure though how deep he got.

5.. and does that mean that i feel pain meaning i got some tears already that can be openings for viruses, std, hiv? it didnt bleed and i dont feel pain now. it was just that moment i felt pain when he was trying to enter me because the condom didnt have much lube.

6. when i did oral sex i know i dont have any cuts or sores in my mouth but im not sure if i have cavities or holes on the teeth. does that have a risk?

please answer. this is my 2nd sexual experience and im very worried. should i get tested?4. when i did oral sex i know i dont have any cuts or sores in my mouth but im not sure if i have cavities or holes on the teeth. does that have a risk?

please answer. this is my 2nd sexual experience and im very worried. should i get tested?

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Re: somebody help please. im very worried
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2012, 08:00:47 am »
i had sex with a guy i met online. i gave him a oral sex without protection but he didn't ejaculate in my mouth but i tasted some precum. i didn't have any cuts or sores in my mouth. we didnt have lube so i didnt allow him to enter me. so he just rubbed his penis on my butt. he pointed his penis on my anus. sometimes i feel he presses it too deep. i don't know if a part of his penis entered me. ive never had anal sex so i dont know the feeling if he has entered his dick on me. i just feel pressure on my butthole. we tried putting it inside but we used a condom when we tried. i cant stand the pain so he just continued pointing his bare dick on my butthole.

questions:

1. should i be worried?
2. what are my risks? he was pressing his dick deep and hard on my anus and there is precum present. can i get infected if he has hiv? im worried that his precum touching my anus is a risk. the precum might have gotten inside me. and i didn't know if sometimes the tip of his penis has already entered me since i havent been entered anally.
3. when does the mucuos membrane / danger zone in the anus start? is the outside and the pink flesh which is visible already considered a mucuous membrane?
4. when we tried to put his penis inside me he wore a condom. but when he was putting on the condom his hand might have precum so he might have put some precum outside the condom. when he tried to enter me some precum must have went inside me? is that a risk? note that he wasnt able to enter me fully because it was my first time and i told him to stop when he was entering me because it's painful. not sure though how deep he got.

5.. and does that mean that i feel pain meaning i got some tears already that can be openings for viruses, std, hiv? it didnt bleed and i dont feel pain now. it was just that moment i felt pain when he was trying to enter me because the condom didnt have much lube.

6. when i did oral sex i know i dont have any cuts or sores in my mouth but im not sure if i have cavities or holes on the teeth. does that have a risk?

please answer. this is my 2nd sexual experience and im very worried. should i get tested?4. when i did oral sex i know i dont have any cuts or sores in my mouth but im not sure if i have cavities or holes on the teeth. does that have a risk?

please answer. this is my 2nd sexual experience and im very worried. should i get tested?

Hi Wonder,

I'm going to start by telling how HIV is transmitted. HIV is a fragile virus, it is transmitted in very particular ways. Those ways are:

Unprotected vaginal and anal sex;
Sharing contaminated injecting equipment such as needles and syringes;
In some cases from HIV positive mother to her unborn or nursing infant.

So we can forget all that stuff about oral sex and sore mouths and cavities mucous membranes.

The real issue here is the anal sex stuff.

The reality is that some fellow just pushing his bare knob against your back door isn't a risk for HIV infection.

If he'd really slipped his end in your pooper, you'd know. It's an unforgettable experience. :)

But you mustn't let fellows go near your anus with uncovered cocks. The stuff about him wearing a condom made it painful is just rubbish. That's about you not being experienced in bum fucking.

Anal sex is a delicate business and it takes time to learn how to do it properly without undue pain. With appropriate lubrication and technique you learn how to accommodate even the largest willies.

There is nothing you've reported here that is a risk for HIV infection.

Given that you are sexually active you should be having a full sexual health screening at least once a year. Twice is better. If it's been a while since your last screening or if you've not had one before, you should visit your doctor or local clinic.

So, on balance, I don't think anything here is a risk for HIV transmission but I do think you should get to a clinic or doctor and get screened.

MtD

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Re: somebody help please. im very worried
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2012, 08:23:19 am »
Hi Wonder,

I'm going to start by telling how HIV is transmitted. HIV is a fragile virus, it is transmitted in very particular ways. Those ways are:

Unprotected vaginal and anal sex;
Sharing contaminated injecting equipment such as needles and syringes;
In some cases from HIV positive mother to her unborn or nursing infant.

So we can forget all that stuff about oral sex and sore mouths and cavities mucous membranes.

The real issue here is the anal sex stuff.

The reality is that some fellow just pushing his bare knob against your back door isn't a risk for HIV infection.

If he'd really slipped his end in your pooper, you'd know. It's an unforgettable experience. :)

But you mustn't let fellows go near your anus with uncovered cocks. The stuff about him wearing a condom made it painful is just rubbish. That's about you not being experienced in bum fucking.

Anal sex is a delicate business and it takes time to learn how to do it properly without undue pain. With appropriate lubrication and technique you learn how to accommodate even the largest willies.

There is nothing you've reported here that is a risk for HIV infection.

Given that you are sexually active you should be having a full sexual health screening at least once a year. Twice is better. If it's been a while since your last screening or if you've not had one before, you should visit your doctor or local clinic.

So, on balance, I don't think anything here is a risk for HIV transmission but I do think you should get to a clinic or doctor and get screened.

MtD

wow. thanks. but isnt it they said that anal sex is very risky because of the mucuos membrane there is very fragile. im just worried that the precum touching the flesh part of my anus can make me infected if ever he has hiv. :(

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Re: somebody help please. im very worried
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2012, 08:34:16 am »
As long as there was no anal penetration then you weren't at risk.

HIV is a fragile virus and simply having the guy's penis rubbing against the outside of the anus is not a risk. Rubbing does not provide the kind of receptive setting which is required for transmission to occur.
Andy Velez

Offline wonder

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Re: somebody help please. im very worried
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2012, 09:36:18 am »
As long as there was no anal penetration then you weren't at risk.

HIV is a fragile virus and simply having the guy's penis rubbing against the outside of the anus is not a risk. Rubbing does not provide the kind of receptive setting which is required for transmission to occur.

even though there is precum present and it is touching the pink flesh since he's pressing hard?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: somebody help please. im very worried
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2012, 09:39:33 am »
even though there is precum present and it is touching the pink flesh since he's pressing hard?
HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.

Offline Andy Velez

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Re: somebody help please. im very worried
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2012, 09:48:21 am »
"Pressing hard" is not the same as penetration. And no, pressing hard is not a risk. 
Andy Velez

Offline wonder

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Re: somebody help please. im very worried
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2012, 11:04:17 am »
"Pressing hard" is not the same as penetration. And no, pressing hard is not a risk.

i really feel worried because when he pressed hard i feel the tip touching my anus. they say that the pink part is mucuos membrane which can absorb hiv :(

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: somebody help please. im very worried
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 11:10:32 am »
i really feel worried because when he pressed hard i feel the tip touching my anus. they say that the pink part is mucuos membrane which can absorb hiv :(

Oy.

Having some chap rub the head of his cock against your asshole is NOT a risk for HIV transmission.

Condom or no condom. Pink bits on pink bits or otherwise.

HIV is transmitted inside your pooper, that means he has to stick it right in and wiggle it about then blow his hot load INSIDE you.

That didn't happen to you.

You are not at risk of HIV infection.

Got it?

MtD

Offline wonder

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group oral sex risk?
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2012, 01:53:29 am »
hello! how risky is group oral sex? im a guy. if i engage in group oral sex, is it risky if the person who will suck me has sucked another guy's penis before me? will the other guys precum/semen be transferred to me? can hiv be transmitted through that? because another person's precum/semen might be carried to me through the person performing the oral sex?

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Re: group oral sex risk?
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2012, 06:03:14 am »
Wonder,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep everything in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.




Group oral is no more risky that one-on-one oral. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Also, please re-read your entire thread. You've already been given good advice about oral. It also applies to group oral.

I would advise you to carry condoms with you to these group sessions, just in case anal intercourse is offered. It's always a good idea to be prepared.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: group oral sex risk?
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2012, 01:13:56 am »
Wonder,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep everything in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.




Group oral is no more risky that one-on-one oral. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Also, please re-read your entire thread. You've already been given good advice about oral. It also applies to group oral.

I would advise you to carry condoms with you to these group sessions, just in case anal intercourse is offered. It's always a good idea to be prepared.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann

if group oral sex is done? can't the semen of the other guy be passed to me through the mouth of the one giving the blowjob since he'll be doing it to me too?

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Re: group oral sex risk?
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2012, 05:37:07 am »
No.

 


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