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Author Topic: Early antiretroviral for HIV extends life expectancy  (Read 5196 times)

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Offline Jmarksto

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Early antiretroviral for HIV extends life expectancy
« on: April 14, 2014, 03:30:13 pm »
I don't think this study has been discussed here.  I know there are folks that want to know when to start meds - this may help with that decision.

http://ow.ly/vMqos

People who initiated cART treatment early—when their CD4 counts were in the 350-to-500 range—could expect to live 6.1 years longer than persons with late cART initiation, which was defined as cART not administered until the CD4 count fell below 350.

The survival benefit was even greater for the earliest initiators of cART: Persons who began such treatment while their CD4 counts were higher than 500 could expect an additional 9.0 years of life.
03/15/12 Negative
06/15/12 Positive
07/11/12 CD4 790          VL 4,000
08/06/12 CD4 816/38%   VL 49,300
08/20/12 Started Complera
11/06/12 CD4   819/41% VL 38
02/11/13 CD4   935/41% VL UD
06/06/13 CD4   816/41% VL UD
10/28/13 CD4 1131/45% VL 25
02/25/14 CD4   792/37% VL UD
07/09/14 CD4 1004/39% VL UD
11/03/14 CD4   711/34% VL UD
03/13/15 CD4   833/36% VL UD
04/??/15 Truvada & Tivicay
06/01/15 CD4 1100/50% VL UD
10/16/15 CD4   826/43% VL UD
??/??/2017 Descov & Tivicay
2017 VL UD, CD4 stable around 850
2018 VL UD, CD4 stable around 850

Offline Jmarksto

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Re: Early antiretroviral for HIV extends life expectancy
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2014, 07:17:22 pm »
...that URL may not be working, here it is again:

http://tinyurl.com/lts37me
03/15/12 Negative
06/15/12 Positive
07/11/12 CD4 790          VL 4,000
08/06/12 CD4 816/38%   VL 49,300
08/20/12 Started Complera
11/06/12 CD4   819/41% VL 38
02/11/13 CD4   935/41% VL UD
06/06/13 CD4   816/41% VL UD
10/28/13 CD4 1131/45% VL 25
02/25/14 CD4   792/37% VL UD
07/09/14 CD4 1004/39% VL UD
11/03/14 CD4   711/34% VL UD
03/13/15 CD4   833/36% VL UD
04/??/15 Truvada & Tivicay
06/01/15 CD4 1100/50% VL UD
10/16/15 CD4   826/43% VL UD
??/??/2017 Descov & Tivicay
2017 VL UD, CD4 stable around 850
2018 VL UD, CD4 stable around 850

Offline buginme2

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Re: Early antiretroviral for HIV extends life expectancy
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2014, 07:54:44 pm »
People will still come up with excuses for not starting.

Anyway, I read an article yesterday on aidsmap.com and there was a mention that it is expected that global recommendations will be changed to "treatment upon diagnosis."  I thought that was bold since most of the planet is still using 350 as the magic number.   

That got me thinking how the boys will react.  Being told to start meds asap regardless. 
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Offline AusShep

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Re: Early antiretroviral for HIV extends life expectancy
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2014, 09:44:52 pm »
People will still come up with excuses for not starting.

Anyway, I read an article yesterday on aidsmap.com and there was a mention that it is expected that global recommendations will be changed to "treatment upon diagnosis."  I thought that was bold since most of the planet is still using 350 as the magic number.   

That got me thinking how the boys will react.  Being told to start meds asap regardless.

Yeah, I think the trend has been showing for a long time that the earlier the better.  Whether it's because of reservoirs, long term immune activation, inflammation, or something else, who knows...  Even the stickied discussion on when to start treatment was before additional research came out showing improved morbidity/mortality numbers for starting above 500.


Offline friskyguy

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Re: Early antiretroviral for HIV extends life expectancy
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2014, 11:21:47 pm »
Yeah, I think the trend has been showing for a long time that the earlier the better.  Whether it's because of reservoirs, long term immune activation, inflammation, or something else, who knows... 

yes I agree........and the one thing that will ultimately drive policy makers recommending 'treatment upon diagnosis' will be the confirmation that treatment prevents the HIV spread.......as is what we are seeing from the latest "Partner" ongoing study.

Once that study is finalised and final results hopefully confirmed that being on successful treatment effectively prevents the spreading of HIV infection, and the realisation and trump card for the economic boffins to find budget support for treatment upon diagnosis due to being more cost effective in the long run.

This will be more than likely to be accompanied with a big government push to get all HIV infected to get on subsidised treatment accompanied by free HIV testing (well in those countries that provide socialised medicine....which are the majority of developed world countries anyway, except for one large notable exception).

There is even some talk now that certain HIV susceptible groups, ie MSM, should be more of a prioritised target for this early bird approach which could see this scourge effectively minimised (within one or two generations in developed countries that would implement such a country approach).

With a cure continuing to be allusive those of us with the virus on effective treatment will just die off gracefully and disappear into the sunset.
Sero converted Sept '10 / Confirmed + Dec '10
Jan '11, VL 9,500 / CD4 482 (32%)
Feb '11, VL 5,800 / CD4 680 (37%)
start Atripla
Mch '11, VL UD / CD4 700 (42%)
Jun  '11, VL UD / CD4 750 (43%)
swap to Kivexa and Efav. due to osteopenia diag. (DEXA) / kidney issues ( decline in eGFR to 77 )
start supplements - Vit D3 / Omega 3 / multivitamin / mini aspirin
Dec '11,  VL UD <20 /  CD4 670 (49%)  / CD4:CD8 = 1.4
all labs now within normal ranges
Mch '12,  VL UD / CD4 600 (51%)
Sep '12,  VL UD / CD4 810 (51%)
Mch '13   VL UD / CD4 965 (56%)
Sep '13   VL UD / CD4 (not taken)
Dec '13   VL UD / CD4 901 (35%) / CD4:CD8 = 1.1  /  eGFR > 100

Offline xinyuan

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Re: Early antiretroviral for HIV extends life expectancy
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2014, 12:46:50 pm »
I'm not surprised with this study.

The benefit in life expectancy is not only due to suppressing the virus itself.

It is also due to advances and improvements in the available drug regimens. Newer agents have less side effects - both short-term and long-term. Of course, we may discover other long-term ones. The risks are decreasing relative to the benefits.


But let me be clear. At least we CAN be around to face them.


The alternative is succumbing to OI's in the short-term or upping the risk of HIV-associated cancers or other diseases in the long-term. Or dying sooner. Because therapy was delayed.


I can never fully understand the trials that long-term survivors faced and are facing with earlier ART's. Back then, the "cure" realy was worse than the disease.

I equally fail to understand the strong resistance that many people have with starting ART's earlier in this era. Please keep in mind that being on therapy is a life-long committment.

Everyone gets so hung up on risks of therapies, each person forgets the bigger picture:

You have to weigh your risks AND benefits AND alternatives.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2014, 12:51:34 pm by xinyuan »

 


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