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Offline WhySoUnfair

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If I had a time machine...
« on: May 27, 2010, 12:49:44 pm »
what would you do if you had a time machine?

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2010, 12:56:09 pm »
I would go back to when I was little, maybe around 5 years old, and tell my parents I had Asperger's Syndrome and was transsexual, so that I could get the proper treatment then instead of having to wait until I was an adult and had suffered for years!
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2010, 01:01:58 pm »
Why- I can see where your going with this,(i did it myself) and for your own sake you're not doing yourself any good.
I find it helps not to wish for time machines, rewind buttons on life and "if only".

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2010, 01:16:00 pm »
I would jump forward at about 500 year increments. I would love to know what humanity is going to do! How far will man travel in space? Will we genetically engineer our offspring? How far will computer technology progress? What social problems will be solved? What problems will persist?

I geek out just thinking about it!

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2010, 01:20:48 pm »
I must admit, when i was younger, I alway's wanted to have a TARDIS or be one of the doctors assistants

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2010, 01:25:52 pm »

   I would go back in time and have sex with Marilyn Monroe, of course a time frame before Jack and John got a hold of her.
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2010, 02:47:57 pm »
I would go two places

into the future too see what it was like probable about a hundred years.

and I would go back tio when I was 16, bitch smack myself, rip me a new one for running away and dropping out of school. Probable kick my own ass then leave =)
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2010, 03:16:43 pm »
Oh I can think of a million things.
I was shopping for Murano vases on ebay the other day and they easily run into the thousands or tens of thousands. This is a rather frequent fantasy of any collector - you go back in time and get tons of the crap you know your are gonna love in the future and which will be very valuable an garantee a good life in retirement.

Then there is all the humanitarian stuff.

Sometimes, also, I have this. In fact I did again the other day. I am time warped back in history and have to make the best of my hap hazzard knowledge on thousands of topics.  What about a conversation with a medieval doctor.  Could you explain what you know about the science of health today, in a way that would lead a medieval doctor to improve his "practice", as it were. Could you explain the difference between a viral and baterial infection?  

Could you help prevent human tragedies - the Holocaust? Slavery in the Western Hemisphere.  etc etc.

When i was boy there was this corny movie on "the 4:30 Movie."  It was about a auntie and her niece? nephew? niece i think, from the corn belt, who took a couple of thousand dollars (hundred dollars?) and went to NY (or was it chicago) and lived the high life for a long time.   Every so often when I am feeling poor I remember that movie and fantasize about time travelling on my modern salary.  Wow, think of the house I could buy. When i think of what my parents paid for their house! Geez!

Also sex fantasies about the past.  

And thats not even considering the future.
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2010, 05:46:05 pm »
i would be scared to go back in time. I'm afraid of that butterfly effect.
What if by going back and changing something, I actually make my life worse!

oh I know that's the half-empty way to look at the glass; but I've often said I never worry about the good things that'll happen to me (why should I? They're good things for heaven's sake. ;D I'll be happy they happened); but it's the bad things I worry about, try to plan for, and try to minimize. So rather that thinking I could go back and "make things right" (whatever that might even mean), I chose to worry about going back and screwing stuff up. criminy! :o My life has had enough issues now, without risking it being worse. LOL

Naw, I've made my way to this point, so I'll just stick with the life I know without using Mr. Peabody's Wayback machine.
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2010, 05:52:48 pm »
In a way these are some very refreshing responses!

I expected this thread to be filled with "I would go back and use a condom, " I would not have had sex with that guy", etc...and yet No one has said that.

I think this shows that we as HIV'ers are a strong group, and that given the chance we would take the opportunity to go back and become better people, help the world, etc.. in spite of the issue of HIV.

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2010, 05:57:20 pm »
OK I would be a sociopathic xenophobe, and go back to the time of early humans and infect them all with HIV and then the butterfly effect might mean that HIV is no longer a threat to humans!!!!  If some neaderthal like humans need to die for us in the present, so be it!
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2010, 06:06:56 pm »
If some neaderthal like humans need to die for us in the present, so be it!

HA! Too late MEchh, you already said this...."Then there is all the humanitarian stuff", "Could you help prevent human tragedies - the Holocaust? Slavery in the Western Hemisphere.  etc etc".

You 'ol softy you :)

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2010, 06:10:51 pm »
I would go back to the good ol' stripping days, and definitely charge the perverts more dollars.
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2010, 06:19:35 pm »
I'd go back one day, play the winning numbers for the powerball, and travel back to the future to spend my 140 million on male hookers, booze, travel, and high end fashion (and I'd send some nice gifts to a couple of you byotches in here).
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2010, 06:23:23 pm »


Sometimes, also, I have this. In fact I did again the other day. I am time warped back in history and have to make the best of my hap hazzard knowledge on thousands of topics.  What about a conversation with a medieval doctor.  Could you explain what you know about the science of health today, in a way that would lead a medieval doctor to improve his "practice", as it were. Could you explain the difference between a viral and baterial infection?  

Could you help prevent human tragedies - the Holocaust? Slavery in the Western Hemisphere.  etc etc.

And thats not even considering the future.

You know, you can't change the past, right?
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2010, 06:33:09 pm »
You know, you can't change the past, right?


Duh, in a time machine why not?  Its a classic of the genre, the butterfly effect.  Have I missed something?
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2010, 06:38:24 pm »
Go back to before I entered Matty's new blog and not press that Willy Bum Bum video (can't get it out of my head)

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2010, 06:39:12 pm »
Duh, in a time machine why not?  Its a classic of the genre, the butterfly effect.  Have I missed something?

Yes - precisely. The point of the story is that you CAN NOT change anything in the past, lest it will have horrible repercussions on the future.

For example - say you stop the Holocaust. It might lead to an even bigger Holocaust 20 years later where 200 million people are killed.
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2010, 06:40:24 pm »
HA! Too late MEchh, you already said this...."Then there is all the humanitarian stuff", "Could you help prevent human tragedies - the Holocaust? Slavery in the Western Hemisphere.  etc etc".

You 'ol softy you :)



Epidemiologically speaking, we're talking wiping out near all of the early human race. People with human rights as much as ourselves today.  I think its sociopathic!  Intent to do harm. Re: other current threads!
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2010, 07:11:08 pm »
The point of the story is that you CAN NOT change anything in the past, lest it will have horrible repercussions on the future.
actually the OP just asked what you would do with a time machine. There were no stipulations on going back, or going forward, or not being able to effect either. I'm the one that suggested going back and screwing with things would mess up the present; but that's just me, because I'm a worrier.

If I really had a time machine, I would go back a short amount of time, change something to make my life and/or others better, and then I would travel to the future to make sure I made things better not worse.

Hmmm, but that was the plot of a Star Trek Voyager 2-part episode ("The Year of Hell") where Annorax, after he meddled with time with his time-ship, keeps trying to "fix" the past to return to a present/future where his wife wasn't dead. Which I guess just gives some credence to my opinion of not screwing with time cause it'll mess everything up. :D

See what you've missed by not being a Trekkie. LOL ;)
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2010, 07:27:20 pm »


I would only have to go back one week.  I would already know the winning numbers for all the states lottery's and Powereball, and I would play them !   :P Should hold me over for a while.  :D


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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2010, 07:37:49 pm »

Hmmm, but that was the plot of a Star Trek Voyager 2-part episode ("The Year of Hell") where Annorax, after he meddled with time with his time-ship, keeps trying to "fix" the past to return to a present/future where his wife wasn't dead. Which I guess just gives some credence to my opinion of not screwing with time cause it'll mess everything up. :D

See what you've missed by not being a Trekkie. LOL ;)

Ha! I watched this scenario develop for a whole season of X-men cartoon when they send a mutant from the future to change the past. And then he goes back to the future to check if it worked out. It would always get worse and he'd go back in time. I don't think he ever figured it out :(
Don't remember what year - 1994 or 95.

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2010, 07:46:12 pm »
 I would go back about 45 mins ago to kfC and ask for that piece of chicken they shorted me . I have never been overly ambitious but I am still a little hungry .
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2010, 08:06:27 pm »
You know, you can't change the past, right?


If we are going to get technical, Einstein's theory of relativity proves that jumping forward in time is possible but going back in time is not.


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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2010, 08:17:21 pm »
I would use it to cash in big on the lottery, then pay BT65 more dollars.
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2010, 09:08:12 pm »
You're all so damn greedy. Doncha wanna help humanity?  Excuse me while a adjust my halo.
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« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2010, 09:13:48 pm »
You're all so damn greedy. Doncha wanna help humanity?  Excuse me while a adjust my halo.

didnt you see mine?  I am quite sure it would have inspired her to live, thus making the world a much better place. 
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2010, 09:23:04 pm »
Woulda-Coulda answer: I'd make sure my parents shared a giggly joint instead of pitchers of stupifying martinis (I believe I owe that quote to Timothy Leary,)

If only answer: Ancient Egypt, but only if I could be close to the court and not a laborer with fantastic arms but a big belly and a bad back

And stock answer: I refuse time travel, because I wouldn't have the career I have now, the partner I have now, or the friends I have here at aidsmeds.com if I had changed something back then

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2010, 09:25:00 pm »


   I reported you Basquo for cheating.
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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2010, 09:37:54 pm »
Yeah, well, your roach is too loose and your paper's too tight...find that on youtube, sharkboy...

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2010, 01:28:15 am »
I would probably go ahead and ask friends if they wanted to have sex.  I remember having sooo many hot guy friends in highschool who would joke around and say, "Suck it."  I passed it off as joking and was afraid to do anything.  I know now that they probably were serious and were passing it off as a joke.

If you watch those NOVA specials, many scientists actually believe time travel is possible.  I can never get my mind around that concept. 

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« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2010, 07:26:57 am »

If you watch those NOVA specials, many scientists actually believe time travel is possible.  I can never get my mind around that concept. 

Like - gymrat said - scientists believe that you can only travel *forward* in time. Way you do it is by getting on a rocket that moves with the speed of light. While you are on that rocket time will pass much slower than on Earth. So when you return, Earth could move forward 100 years while you spent only 2 years on the rocket.
But then you'll be just living in the future - no way to get back.
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2010, 09:14:27 am »

 yep,  that remote controll in the movie click, was a usefull tool, i would love to play with that.

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« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2010, 09:56:45 am »
If I had a time machine, I'd sell it for scrap. I'm happy where I'm at. Be here now! :)
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« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2010, 10:49:01 am »

 Sell it on e bay Ann

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2010, 10:58:45 am »
IF I had a time machine...

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« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2010, 11:29:06 am »
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« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2010, 11:41:37 am »
Phase 1: Collect Underpants

 ??? ???or am I just having one of my naive moments

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2010, 02:34:50 pm »
If I could go back I would have learned about my brother dying of aids and learned from It

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2010, 02:43:05 pm »
If I could go back I would have learned about my brother dying of aids and learned from It
I would stop Aids.
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Offline Boze

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2010, 03:36:39 pm »
I would stop Aids.

Stop aids how?
Or you mean you'd go forward in time, get the vaccine and then go back and give it to everybody in the past?
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2010, 04:31:36 pm »
??? ???or am I just having one of my naive moments
it's just another cultural shortcoming moment :D

that's the business model of the underpants gnomes from the cartoon Southpark
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2010, 04:35:42 pm »
Stop aids how?
Or you mean you'd go forward in time, get the vaccine and then go back and give it to everybody in the past?

I already explained. You go back far enough and infect them, like the acrobat does today, thousands, and then evolution takes over, the strongest survive, and HIV is but a trace in our DNA.
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2010, 04:45:43 pm »
it's just another cultural shortcoming moment :D

that's the business model of the underpants gnomes from the cartoon Southpark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-eak9Jz3_k

Ah!!! moment of enlightenment happening.
Franch TV really ought to show southpark :'(

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2010, 06:24:06 pm »
I already explained. You go back far enough and infect them, like the acrobat does today, thousands, and then evolution takes over, the strongest survive, and HIV is but a trace in our DNA.

40 million people have had HIV. 0 have developed immunity. I think you stand a higher chance of wiping out the human race than finding a way to eradicate hiv.
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2010, 06:24:14 pm »
I already explained. You go back far enough and infect them, like the acrobat does today, thousands, and then evolution takes over, the strongest survive, and HIV is but a trace in our DNA.

That's pretty extreme.  You would doom thousands of cavemen and/or women to AIDS, without access to meds and Ryan White, just so you won't have it in the present.  I like it!   ;D

Of course you'd have to infect babies so that they would (hopefully) die before reproducing.  Life was likely pretty short as it was back then.
It's a complex world

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #46 on: May 28, 2010, 06:59:56 pm »
Dears I havent worked out the technicalities Im waiting to hear from the Aaron Diamond Fondation.

Yes, dears, its a sociopathic idea, as I noted in my first mention.

It only came up in response to ourselves patting ourselves on the back in the first posts of this thread for such high and mighty human uses of the time machine.

Oh for the technicalities - i guess people who have the genes for long-term-survival would survive to produce babies.  Also I think you could imagine that since the entire race has not been infected with HIV, if it were, we might find many more ways that people might be naturally good defenders.

Long term non progressors do have immunity.  Immunity means resistance to disease.
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #47 on: May 28, 2010, 07:02:59 pm »

Long term non progressors do have immunity.  Immunity means resistance to disease.

I stand corrected. Also forgot about the ccr5 delta 32 mutation. Funny enough that mutation probably developed in response to the bubonic plague. So you have a point
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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2010, 11:07:25 pm »
Let's see.....

I would also tell Bush to read his PDB's (Presidential Daily Briefings).  I guess I would have contacted him in August 2001 while on his month long vacation.

I would tell myself to make better decisions with career.

I would tell Michael Jackson Propofol isn't for home use. 

And, tell Lincoln to skip the play. 

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Re: If I had a time machine...
« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2010, 06:22:41 am »
   
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