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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: Rdawkins13 on August 01, 2013, 12:01:39 am

Title: assesment
Post by: Rdawkins13 on August 01, 2013, 12:01:39 am
Hello all, thanks for acceptance into the community.

I have been worrying about a scenario which occurred in march and am wondering if I should test.


My ex girlfriend tested negative back in January and she had not had sex since summer of 2012 and it was protected. We fooled around in march, protected sex but not sure if condom was on right, and dry sex. My bare penis/ or underwear covered cant remember was pushing against her vagina , thrusting motion which was covered in panties. Not sure how deep it went in but she had a tampon in. I do not remember if the penetration was superficial .. but i definitely do not recall going deep in.. just pushing the panties inward a bitch with my penis. Before this I was tested in early march negative and did not have any sexual relations in over 3 months. I tested also in April , exactly 1 month or 28 days after this exposure which was negative.( Insti bioanalytical rapid test)she is very trustworthy and we are friends talk a lot. I have known her for many years.

 I know for fact she doesn't do drugs or have sex with randoms. I talk to hear about my fears regarding this event and she has reassured me constantly that her last partner was in summer 2012 and it was protected sex and also her hiv test she had in January which was negative.. would definitely cover last summer.  I guess I am worried that there is always a possibility that she could have lied, although it is highly unlikely given how much we have talked about this event and how well I know her. I shouldn't have done the dry sex over panties it has made me worry about it.

Should I test over this? or is it safe to say that there is no risk for this?
Title: Re: assesment
Post by: Jeff G on August 01, 2013, 12:34:19 am
It sounds like you had protected vaginal sex because you would have known if the condom broke , they are designed so that if they fail there is no doubt , its sufficient if the condom is coving the glans of you penis . The rubbing you described through underwear and panties isn't a risk for HIV and is called frottage .

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME FOR THIS INCIDENT , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!
Title: Re: assesment
Post by: Rdawkins13 on August 01, 2013, 01:21:55 am
Thank you for the response and advice Jeff. I am not sure if it is considered frontage though. I was thrusting almost as if it were insertive sex, into the vagina but it was covered with panties. I cannot remember if I had boxers on too , or if I was bare penis. Might have been wearing them. The reason why this is concerning is that maybe a bit of my penis pushed her panties into the vagina a bit and also my penis with it. I guess if you consider the I unlikeliness of transmission in this manner, coupled with the high probability that she is hiv negative... such an infection is extremely unlikely? Thanks for your time in answering my concerns.
Title: Re: assesment
Post by: Ann on August 01, 2013, 04:32:59 am
Rd,

As a woman, I can categorically tell you that you did NOT penetrate her through her panties.

Frottage is the sexual, skin-on-skin, rubbing of body parts together without penetration. You didn't engage in frottage, you engaged in dry-humping - rubbing your penis against someone who is wearing clothing.

Frottage is NOT a risk for hiv infection and neither is dry-humping.

You haven't had a risk and you do not need further hiv testing at this time.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED FURTHER HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann