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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: Scared01 on July 03, 2006, 04:04:35 am
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After an exposure in January i have developed many syntoms im mouth, a week after some teeths have to be recovered by my dentist, since there, i have developed candidiasis in the corner of the mouth that remain there since February, i have always my gums very inflamated, i had made some tests since January, the last one was 5 months after that exposure, all of them were negatives, but i still with lots of fears about ir. I know shr has HIV + , i know it now, in January i nottest a strange halit in her mouth, i didnīt make care, but a week after i get the same halit and the teeths were destroyd. Please tell me is there any opinion about it, should i forget, or should i get tested again i read that 6 months is enough, but in this case with this kind of syntoms, i donī+ t realy know what shoul i do.
Thanks so much
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Scared,
A negative test 13 weeks or more after a potential risk is considered conclusive.
Discuss your symptoms with your doctor as this is not an hiv issue.
Morgan
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Scared,
You are hiv negative. You do not have hiv. You do not need more tests for hiv.
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.
Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
You are hiv negative. Please use condoms and remain hiv negative.
Ann
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Do you think so, even when you have syntoms that indicate clearly you could be HIV. Is there another exam i could made that is more accurate than Elisa? PCR is it good to indicate something at 5 months????
I probably have reumatic disease, like arthristis reumatoid, could this afect the Elisa Exam??
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You are HIV negative. Period. End of story.
No further testing is necessary. Your rheumatic condition would not affect the test result.
Stop practicing medicine on yourself without a license. It's bad for your health. Feelings are not facts. Just because you have thoughts and feelings doesn't invalidate your negative test results.
Your mind may continue to come up with more stuff to scare you with. You're STILL HIV negative. No kidding.
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No matter what your "exposure," you have tested reliably negative. the ELISA test is extremely accurate in determining your HIV status, especially confirming a negative result.
You are reliably HIv negative. Period.
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Do you think it doesnīt matter the syntoms when you have tested 5,5 months after the behavior, but if the syntoms indicate an infection, at this time with the candidiasis in mouth, i think it is not possible to say that the syntoms doesnīt matter, ok, of course i seem a little bit stressed, and its true, but the fact of not know it, is killing me. Is there any other exam i could make more accurate.
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Scared,
Your symptoms matter, but not where hiv is concerned. You have conclusively tested negative for hiv and that means you are not infected with hiv.
There are many, many MANY possible causes to your symptoms. You know that cause is not hiv because you have ruled it out.
Go see your doctor to find out what the real problem is. We cannot diagnose you over the internet and there is nothing more we can do for you here.
You are hiv negative. Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.
Ann
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Sure symptoms matter and should be given attention. But not because it means your HIV test result wasn't valid. It just means you have some condition(s) which may require treatment and you should be seeing a doctor who will properly diagnose them and treat the problem.
You are mistakenly diagnosing yourself with what you have decided are HIV-related symptoms and therefore your negative HIV test result was therefore invalid. Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!
Work your problem(s) out with your doctor. This is not an HIV situation. Period.
Cheers,
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OK thanks very much for your awnsers and words i will try to relax with HIV, may be make another exam after 6 months. Thanks very much much.
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What do you think aboout AG P24, I know this exam is valid after the exposure, but does it really works 30 days after the exposure
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Scared,
The p24 antigen only works in the first few weeks of infection. When the body starts producing antibodies, the p24 antigen begins to disappear. This is all explained in the Testing Lesson. Read the Welcome thread and follow the link provided there.
I've never heard of the p24 antigen test being used in anything other than a "bundled" test which also includes an ELISA test.
You have conclusively tested negative for hiv. You do not have hiv.
Ann
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I really hope you are right, but my mouth is becaming a little worse, now its my tongue that are becaming white, in the back, like some peaces of cheese. Of course i understand what you are saying but, its lots of strange. Sorry about the confusion with the posts i didn īt realy understand that we couldnīt open more subjects.
Thanks Ann
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Scared,
There are things in this world that can cause problems in your mouth other than hiv. Go see your doctor and find out what is causing your mouth problem. You have already ruled out hiv.
Ann
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Hi, its me again with more doubts and quesyions abouth mouth, i have candidiasis in the border of mouth, and it seems its evoluting so much that i can not speak very well because its hurting me, is it possible that this kind of candidiasis could be passed through de mouth. By kisss or another type of infeccion.
Thanks sp much
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scared,
You need to see your doctor about your mouth. We cannot diagnose you and neither can you diagnose yourself.
Whatever is going on, it's nothing to do with hiv.
Ann
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Please does anyone know some kind of cream to put in yhe corners of mouth. Its urting me a lot
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Scared,
Read Ann's last post.
Morgan
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Scared,
If I'm reading a post you left in another person's thread correctly, all you did to cause all this worry is kiss someone who has hiv. Hiv is NOT transmitted through kissing.
No matter what you did, you have conclusively tested negative for hiv. You do not have hiv.
Go see your doctor and/or dentist about your mouth. We cannot help you with that.
If you've read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0), you will have read the following:
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
I'm giving you a warning - if you continue to use this site to question your no-risk kiss and negative hiv test result, I will have to give you a time out to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help you need.
There is nothing more we can do for you here.
Ann
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Ok, iīm really sorry about it, off couse its not only yhe kisses in an advanced hiv related person, that are putting me a little crazy. Its the syntoms after an exposure with risk. I understand your concerns and iīm really sorry but its beeing a lot difficult to me. Could you please tell me what kind of specialist shoul i search for the problems in conner of the mouth?, could it be related with Gastro problems or even with oher things
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Scared,
Go see your regular doctor and he or she will decide what, if any, sort of specialist care you need.
You might be having symptoms, but you did not have a risk. Kissing is not a risk for hiv infection and it doesn't matter how far advanced the illness is. No risk is no risk.
See your doctor. There is nothing more we can do for you here.
Ann
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i have made sex without condom with the person i donīt know why you are sayng i have only kiss her, i said that the person had a strange halit when we kissed, the same halit i have became a week after ( and that destroyed 3 of my theets that my dentist had rebuilt), but we have made sex whithout condom unfortunetly.
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Yes, and you have tested conclusively negative after that exposure. Go see your doctor, this is not an hiv issue.
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Scared,
The fact that you had unprotected intercourse does not change the fact that you tested negative - according to you - "the last one was 5 months after that exposure".
You are absolutely, conclusively hiv negative. Go see your dentist about your mouth. It has nothing to do with hiv. You are hiv negative. You do not need further testing.
You are very close to being given a time-out.
Ann
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Hi Ann, but donīt you think like me, donīt you think its very strange all of the syntoms started a week after the contact, even the halit or the flavour of her mouth, mine becamed exactly the same a week after, is it candidiasis contagious??? Could i only get the candidiasis, or candidiasis are not contagious, even the angular cheilitis. Sorry Ann for more this question about the same theme, my gingivis are in pain and it seems they are going to retray again. iīll try to wait and make another exam at the end of this week 6 months after. Is it possoble a exam give positive 6 months after the exposure.
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Scared,
You are conclusively hiv negative and your symptoms have nothing to do with hiv. See your doctor to find out what is going on. It has nothing to do with hiv as you are conclusively negative.
If you read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0), you would have read the following:
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
You are conclusively hiv negative and there is nothing more we can do for you here. You are heading for a time-out - please consider yourself warned.
Ann
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Hi, i know i have been advised not to continue asking advices because i have tested negative, but i think this is a place where we can learn a little by giving our opinions and telling our personal history, so iīm here again to ask anyone if they have some experience of tested negative after a long period, and them tested positive. Iīm asking this because i have now in both corners of mouth cheilitis and i have read this is a syntom of HIV, sometimes i have Hairy Leukoplakia but i donīt realy know if is normal to appear and them disapear, i have erythema of the mucosa of the roof of the mouth, i donīt realy know How to explain, but is very irregulat and burning. I know i have tested negative but please if i could know your experiences i try to do something in that way, maybe ask to my doctor to make me another kind of exam. Thanks in advance.
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<< iīm here again to ask anyone if they have some experience of tested negative after a long period, and them tested positive>>
That is known as trawling for anecdotal information, which I absolutely have no patience for on this part of the forum. Anecdote is not data, and I seriously hope you reconsider your participation in these forums.
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Ok sorry about my english, i didnīt mean o write it that way, what i mean was if there are any cases that with all this syntoms has given positive after the 6 months
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There are only a handful of cases where seroconversion is thought to have taken longer than six months, and they were all reported in the early 1990s, before the beginning of advanced testing.
As these cases were anecdotal in nature, we have no way of confirming them. But we still use a conservative approach when it comes to HIV testing as a result. Therefore, people on drug therapy for cancer, immunosuppressive drugs for organ transplantation, or chronic IV drug users are given a six month caveat.
However, your HIv test is reliable. Unless you have had an organ transplant or chemotherapy, there is no reason to doubt a three month test.
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Ok, the only things i have is angular cheilitis in both corners of my mouth, gingivitis always hurting me, the roof of mouth very hard, and hurting me too. I have made another exam today, i will know the result in 31 July, 6 months and almost a half past that exposure, i will then write the result here. Of course its really nice to believe that a 6 months test its enough if i haven īt feel strange things since a week after exposure. And my doubts are all in that way, if you have syntoms, like candidiasis, and others that started after the exposure, that impossible to forget HIV.
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Hello, its me again, iīm writing this message in my post again to ask some information, could anyone help me and explain if a PCR quantitative its an exam that we could confide after 6 months??? I mean if a make a PCR Quantitative is it sensitive after 6 months. Thanks so much for your help
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scared,
The PCR test is NOT approved for diagnostic purposes because it is TOO sensitive and has a high rate of FALSE positives. Do you really want to risk doing that to yourself? A positive result on a PCR has to be confirmed with an antibody test anyway - and you already HAVE a conclusive negative result on an antibody test.
You are hiv negative. Period. End of story. Have you forgotten about your time out warning? I haven't. Go see a doctor about your physical problems and seek the assistance of a mental health care professional for your anxieties. We can do nothing more for you here.
You are conclusively hiv negative and you do NOT need further hiv testing.
Ann
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Ok, but could someone explain please what is a PCR quantitative and its efficiency
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Scared,
Read the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) and follow the link to the Testing Lesson.
I'm not going to waste my time giving you in-depth information concerning PCR testing because one, it isn't approved for diagnostic purposes and two, you do not need further testing.
Furthermore, you have chosen to ignore pretty much everything we have said to you. I suggest you would be better served by discussing this with the appropriate medical care giver face to face and I'm giving you a 28 day time out to help you on your way.
You are conclusively hiv negative. There is nothing more we can do for you here.
Ann
PS - Do NOT create a new account to get around your time out or you will be banned, no questions asked.
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Hi, its been a long time since i started to feel lots of problems in my mouth, caries in both sides of mouth, roof of mouth burning, and angular cheilitis that persists in one side of mouth, all of this syntoms started morealess a one week after the exposure, i have made some tests all of them negative. My question is, if you know the girl is hiv positive and with all of this syntoms, what should i do, another Elisa test, shoul i ask for any kind of ohter tests, iīm taking medicacion because i have developed lots of problems in my stomach, i think they could be related with that cause but i have no certeinly. Could anyone please help me and recomend me something.
Thanks so much
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I've merged your threads. Please don't start a new one everytime you have another burst of fear or another question or you're going to end up with a time out that could become permanent.
You are way conclusively negative so there's no excuse for this stuff on your part.
Get on with your life. NO KIDDING.
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Hello, but iīm not kiding i have this syntoms in mouth, could anyone just say to me if angular cheilitis is a syntom of HIV, or if theres some kinf of exam that looks for something else more certainly, maybe a just can not syntethise the antybodys. Is it possible?????
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Scared,
As you have been repeatedly told, symptoms don't mean a thing where hiv is concerned. The only thing that matters is your hiv test results - and you have one at five months that says you are absolutely hiv negative.
If you cannot accept your negative hiv status, please get some face to face help in the form of counseling. There is nothing more we can do for you here and if you insist on continually coming here to wring your hands over something you do not have, you will be given another time out. Go get some real help with your anxiety. This is NOT an hiv situation.
Ann
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I have some doubts from the beginning of 2006, first i have candidiases very severe, than angular cheilitis that remain, my mouth are becaming with i dont know how to say, cystīs because of infiltrations. And now i have a renal cyst of 25mm. iīm very scared, because all of this syntoms could be of HIV. please give me your opinion.
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scared,
You started a thread in Living, where you are NOT supposed to be posting. I've merged it into your thread here in the Am I Infected forum, which is the ONLY place and thread you should be posting in. Please get with the program!
You are hiv negative. Talk to your doctor about your renal problems as the have NOTHING to do with hiv.
You are hiv negative and there is nothing more we can do for you here. If you cannot accept your negative status, you need to talk to someone about that face-to-face. You are headed for another time out if you insist on bringing your non-hiv related problems here. This have been going on for months now and it's time for you to stop.
Ann
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What do i should do, since an exposure l have developed many syntoms, now i have renal problems, angular cheilitis, my mouth are becoming with lots of infiltrations in teeths . Please tell me what do i should do, after the candidiasis all of this become hapening slowly, and now i in real pain with the cyst in kidney. I think maybe i have aids and donīt apeear in the exams, and because of that my body is going down very quickly without treatment. :D
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You don't have AIDS and you don't have HIV. You've already tested negative. So what ever is wrong with you see your doctor because it is not an HIV concern.