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Main Forums => Living With HIV => Topic started by: hadasinparis on April 18, 2011, 03:02:19 pm
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Hi
I met a very handsome guy ...I had a crush for him..the looks of Ashton Kutcher...He was begging to have bareback sex with me...I refused ..I refused ...And G.d knows how it is difficult to resist .I did not tell him the reason why I refused ...And he left me...
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Well dearie, we're all dutifully impressed that you can pull in tricks at that lofty caliber of Ashton Kutcher. But you know, you could have just told him to use a condom.
And let me guess -- internet profile of dubious, unverifiable stats or a dark corner in the local sex club? :) You could also have just told him you were HIV+ and guess what, he most likely would have said he was too. ::)
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The last time someone begged me for bareback sex, I backed away, too.
I backed a way deep down on that dick.
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Damn, I would take Ashton Kutcher or someone who looked like him bare any day! :P :P :P
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Mrs Phil
He did not want any condoms at all!!!..And if he was poz also...It didn' t matter ....I don't want to get syph ..etc....Well ...The good thing about it..He gave me erotic dreams......I saw him naked...Oman
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Shortly after getting diagnosed, I met up with this guy. I was feeling down so, it made me happy someone would want to hook up with me. I told him I was poz (he was neg).
So when I get to his place, I pull out a condom and he said, "let's just bareback"... I refused. But he was so insistent he wanted to bareback. So, I caved in after a while of him convincing me that he didn't care (I know, I know, bad decision). Any way, I immediately felt bad and pulled out like a minute later.
That was my first situation of having sex after being diagnosed. It really made me feel weird how nonchalant he was about it. I haven't spoken to him since. Good guy though, we spent some time talking about HIV and stuff.
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The last time someone begged me for bareback sex, I backed away, too.
I backed a way deep down on that dick.
:D I'd never say no, after full disclosure w/ consenting adults, however I do pull out before I cum ;D
if I do end up w/ some STD it's my own dam fault for not wearing a condom , luck of the draw, it happens ;)
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Mrs Phil
He did not want any condoms at all!!!..And if he was poz also...It didn' t matter ....I don't want to get syph ..etc....Well ...The good thing about it..He gave me erotic dreams......I saw him naked...Oman
Well ... looks like you got fucked anyway ... out of a good time ;)
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Well ... looks like you got fucked anyway ... out of a good time ;)
:D :D :D ahh don't worry there will be lots of other sex partners ;D enjoy it while you can ;)
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So when I get to his place, I pull out a condom and he said, "let's just bareback"... I refused. But he was so insistent he wanted to bareback. So, I caved in after a while of him convincing me that he didn't care (I know, I know, bad decision). Any way, I immediately felt bad and pulled out like a minute later.
That's some wacky shit. Maybe he was a chaser.
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That's some wacky shit. Maybe he was a chaser.
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Now we all know that there is no such thing as a chaser, that's like saying you saw a UFO, but you cannot prove it :D
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Now we all know that there is no such thing as a chaser,
It seems I missed that memo.
btw, I've seen a UFO
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That's some wacky shit. Maybe he was a chaser.
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What is a chaser?
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That's some wacky shit. Maybe he was a chaser.
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He wasn't a chaser... at least I don't think so. He told me that he gets tested and wants to stay negative. But that he does go out and get barebacked a lot (that's why he didn't care about barebacking, said if he didn't catch it from me he'd catch it from someone else... but that he hoped he didn't get it... I know weird logic).
Drew: from what I understand, a chaser is a person who intentionally has unprotected sex, especially with a known poz, in order to get infected himself.
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That's some wacky shit. Maybe he was a chaser.
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Or a poz person pretending to be a chaser -- and yes, we've caught someone who was a member here doing just that on adam4adam!
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He wasn't a chaser... at least I don't think so. He told me that he gets tested and wants to stay negative. But that he does go out and get barebacked a lot (that's why he didn't care about barebacking, said if he didn't catch it from me he'd catch it from someone else... but that he hoped he didn't get it... I know weird logic).
Drew: from what I understand, a chaser is a person who intentionally has unprotected sex, especially with a known poz, in order to get infected himself.
Which pretty much sums up the person you met.
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Thank you Miss Philicia and DanMo. :)
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He wasn't a chaser... at least I don't think so. He told me that he gets tested and wants to stay negative. But that he does go out and get barebacked a lot (that's why he didn't care about barebacking, said if he didn't catch it from me he'd catch it from someone else... but that he hoped he didn't get it... I know weird logic).
Drew: from what I understand, a chaser is a person who intentionally has unprotected sex, especially with a known poz, in order to get infected himself.
Well, I know neg guys that like to bareback, and have done so for yrs. but the one's I know always pull it out before the cum, and they have remained neg for yrs. chasers NO, the only way to get teh AIDS is to have a POZ Top to shoot it in your ass thur unprotected sex, it's just common knowledge and everyone in here know this ;)
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What is a chaser?
I've heard of a chubby chaser...Is that the same thing?
Sounds like he was practicaly begging for it! I knew that Ashton was a kinky F*cker
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Or a poz person pretending to be a chaser -- and yes, we've caught someone who was a member here doing just that on adam4adam!
There are people tip toeing around the web doing all sorts of stuff. We've had the faux chaser, we've had the deliberate bug giver and even currently someone here who I rather think of as a real bug chaser.
I mean...if you're circling around here for years as a neggie while trying to flirt and hit on the pozzies, what else is someone supposed to think?
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There are people tip toeing around the web doing all sorts of stuff. We've had the faux chaser, we've had the deliberate bug giver and even currently someone here who I rather think of as a real bug chaser.
I mean...if you're circling around here for years as a neggie while trying to flirt and hit on the pozzies, what else is someone supposed to think?
:D I doubt there are any negs circling around here looking for some POZ dick :D
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if you're circling around here for years as a neggie while trying to flirt and hit on the pozzies, what else is someone supposed to think?
XXXactly... I don't get it. At all.
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:D I doubt there are any negs circling around here looking for some POZ dick :D
Dont be so sure , I think there may one in the mix .
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Which pretty much sums up the person you met.
It's weird cause, he didn't *want* to get get infected... his reasoning for not wanting to bareback was that he didn't like condoms.
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XXXactly... I don't get it. At all.
Now maybe in Manhunt or Adam 4 Adam, but the funny about that is, they all got teh AIDS , if they say they don't, you know it's a LIE :D
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It's weird cause, he didn't *want* to get get infected... his reasoning for not wanting to bareback was that he didn't like condoms.
That's what he said. People say a lot of things they don't really mean.
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Besides who >Likes< condoms??
Why does it bother you?
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That's what he said. People say a lot of things they don't really mean.
Maybe he likes to pull out, guys do like that you know ;)
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Maybe he likes to pull out, guys do like that you know ;)
He didn't even care if I came inside him.
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He didn't even care if I came inside him.
Oh, I think he did, if he was NEG, Trust me, I know :D he might have teh aids and not even know it...or maybe an STD, even tho you were inside him, for a short time, you can still get an STD...
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Oh, I think he did, if he was NEG, Trust me, I know :D he might have teh aids and not even know it...
Yeah, I know... at the time I really wasn't thinking much. He seemed pretty adamant that he was neg though, always gets tested, blah blah blah. I just find it weird how someone would lie about it with someone else who was poz...
He had this whole theory on how by using a ton of saliva and then immediately expelling the cum from his ass was sufficient protection. He really talked me into it, but as I said, I felt bad at the prospect of possibly infecting him.
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It's weird cause, he didn't *want* to get get infected... his reasoning for not wanting to bareback was that he didn't like condoms.
I've encountered this before - and have BEEN this before at times. And btw, Dan: I know it's kind of an experience - what with you being newly diagnosed and all, but I appreciate your honesty about struggling with it and actually surrendering for a time.
One of the most tiresome things for me on here is how many try to prop this "Oh, how cooooould you?" posture while they wag their fingers.
You could the same way most all of us could - the same way we did. It's human. And the heat of passion is a tricky time to make solid academic decisions, so I'm not going to give you much grief about your experience.
It's hardly the same thing as outright gift giving. Not to me, anyway.
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It's weird cause, he didn't *want* to get get infected... his reasoning for not wanting to bareback was that he didn't like condoms.
So if I told you I didn't want to be run over by a truck and then stood in the middle of 70 mph traffic on the freeway you wouldn't think I was trying to kill myself? Okeydokey.
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Yeah, I know... at the time I really wasn't thinking much. He seemed pretty adamant that he was neg though, always gets tested, blah blah blah. I just find it weird how someone would lie about it with someone else who was poz...
He had this whole theory on how by using a ton of saliva and then immediately expelling the cum from his ass was sufficient protection. He really talked me into it, but as I said, I felt bad at the prospect of possibly infecting him.
Well, I'd be more worried about an STD if I were you ;) this person probably had aids and LIED to you to get you to Top him, some people will try ANYTHING to get fucked ;D
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I have had guys that claimed to be neg ask me not to use a condom ... I have never had one of those guys leave because I put one on before I fucked them though , problem solved .
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Well, I'd be more worried about an STD if I were you ;) this person probably had aids and LIED to you to get you to Top him, some people will try ANYTHING to get fucked ;D
I told him I was poz though! Why the need to lie? LOL
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So if I told you I didn't want to be run over by a truck and then stood in the middle of 70 mph traffic on the freeway you wouldn't think I was trying to kill myself? Okeydokey.
Actually, I understand this sort of thing. I didn't outright want infection, but I made all sorts of mental gymnastics in my pursuit of sex. It's not taking into account the potential for say...drugs, alcohol, sex addiction or any number of psychological / emotional issues that can make people rationalize all sorts of behavior.
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Actually, I understand this sort of thing. I didn't outright want infection, but I made all sorts of mental gymnastics in my pursuit of sex. It's not taking into account the potential for say...drugs, alcohol, sex addiction or any number of psychological / emotional issues that can make people rationalize all sorts of behavior.
Preach Brother TIM ;D aint that the the turth :D
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So if I told you I didn't want to be run over by a truck and then stood in the middle of 70 mph traffic on the freeway you wouldn't think I was trying to kill myself? Okeydokey.
I'm only going on what he actually told me. His goal wasn't to get infected. He just didn't like the feeling condoms inside him and he liked getting shot up.
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I made a thread in here about a month ago that was about all the head trip stuff going on with me while I was doing exactly this sort of thing.
A thread that almost no one in this entire forum - moderators included - responded to at all.
As much as we would want this stuff to be simple, it isn't.
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I'm only going on what he actually told me. His goal wasn't to get infected. He just didn't like the feeling condoms inside him and he liked getting shot up.
"Shot up"? Are you referring to a load in the ass, or are you referring to injecting crystal?
If it's crystal, that solves this puzzle.
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I'm only going on what he actually told me. His goal wasn't to get infected. He just didn't like the feeling condoms inside him and he liked getting shot up.
I hope you don't believe everything some guy tells you just cuz he wants it up the ass, come on now, please tell us your smarter than that ;D
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"Shot up"? Are you referring to a load in the ass, or are you referring to injecting crystal?
If it's crystal, that solves this puzzle.
Oh sorry for the confusion, I mean a load up his ass. lol
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mmmm.....all this dirty talk is making me horny....lol
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For a minute, I thought the Great White's were circling again....
1.) There are people who chase the bug wanting to get infected.
2.) "I just find it weird how someone would lie about it with someone else who was poz..." ~~ I agree, it's weird, but people don't always fit into packages we can understand. As some others have suggested, there are a myriad of reasons for guys wanting to bareback and the psychological equation for each person can be different.
3.) thunter34 hits it out of the park with "one of the most tiresome things for me on here is how many try to prop this "Oh, how cooooould you?" posture while they wag their fingers."
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I don't get what all the controversy is. I mean look around. We all got fucked bare at some point (no I don't believe that you were infected through oral sex). Why try and look deep into his "reasons" for it. We all had our reasons. Some people are high and aren't thinking, some people are already positive, and some people are willing to take the risk, and some don't care. Maybe he just didn't care. So what.
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Actually, I understand this sort of thing. I didn't outright want infection, but I made all sorts of mental gymnastics in my pursuit of sex. It's not taking into account the potential for say...drugs, alcohol, sex addiction or any number of psychological / emotional issues that can make people rationalize all sorts of behavior.
Of course you understand it sweetheart, it's called irrational thinking.
My problem isn't someone thinking irrationally, or even DanMo not identifying it in the heat of the moment. My problem is that he still isn't properly identifying that type of thinking way after the fact.
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Of course you understand it sweetheart, it's called irrational thinking.
My problem isn't someone thinking irrationally, or even DanMo not identifying it in the heat of the moment. My problem is that he still isn't properly identifying that type of thinking way after the fact.
I think he should get tested for STD's way after the fact......
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Miss P makes a lot of sense here. See how much can be lost in communication?
My problem is that he still isn't properly identifying that type of thinking way after the fact.
Let's remember though that DanMo is young and has likely not been around the block as many times as some of us. Age doesn't make me smarter but it means I have lived longer and experienced more, good and bad. Our knowledge is shaped by our experiences and I trust this is something of a learning experience. Hell, I didn't know what a "chaser" was until an hour or so ago.
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I think he should get tested for STD's way after the fact......
Absolutely Dennis ;)
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Absolutely Dennis ;)
I mean that guy he had unprotected anal sex w/ probably believes he can ex-spell the aids and STD outta his ass :D I wouldn't wanna fuck em' that's just scary ;D
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I think there are people who get off on taking risks and HIV is one of those. I still think most people think it ain't going to happen to them, but there are some or many out there where HIV becomes like a fetish.
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i know for a fact their are guys that are out to get it. i know a guy that is obsessed with what he calls 'getting the bug' eventhough i advised him many time against it, he goes to numerous bareback parties, but oddly enough hasn't become positive yet. go figure..
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I think we ARE those people that we know of who think this and do that.
We are here now, aren't we?
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I think there are people who get off on taking risks and HIV is one of those. I still think most people think it ain't going to happen to them, but there are some or many out there where HIV becomes like a fetish.
wut? I'm not a fetish, novelty or any sex toy, I'm way too old for that shit ;D
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THis might be stupid but how do u void syphilis and other stds...even though I'm
Poz I still am uncomfortable topping or bttming bareback and would always use a condom but what can u get orally giving and receiving oral..any advice thnx!
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THis might be stupid but how do u void syphilis and other stds...even though I'm
Poz I still am uncomfortable topping or bttming bareback and would always use a condom but what can u get orally giving and receiving oral..any advice thnx!
You can still get STD's that way w/ oral
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You can still get STD's that way w/ oral
Unless you use a condom for oral, which some of us did back in the 80s.
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THis might be stupid but how do u void syphilis and other stds...even though I'm
Poz I still am uncomfortable topping or bttming bareback and would always use a condom but what can u get orally giving and receiving oral..any advice thnx!
ppp, you might find these links useful.
The Drama Down Under (http://www.thedramadownunder.info/) It's an Australian site (hence the pun in the site's name), but the information is relevant no matter where you live.
inSPOT (http://inspot.org/STDInfo/SexualRisk/tabid/107/language/en-US/Default.aspx) A sexual risk chart that takes you through the different sexual acts and tells you what you may be putting yourself at risk for.
Please keep in mind - there are no such thing as stupid questions, only stupid answers. Questioning things is how we learn, so don't ever be afraid to ask.
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Thanks Ann...I dont think Im ever fucking or getting a bj again...lol....how do you avoid syphillis and EVERYTHING else...its bad enough one has hiv and thank G-d Im fortunate to be undetectable but I want to date again and have a healthy sex life...But receiving a blow job should i always ask to wear a condom...if you go on a date and it goes well before even kissing should you require you go with yoru partner to get an STD test to avoid CMV, and Syphillis...How does anyone have physical intimacy without the fear of getting anything lol...
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Yes...I confess ..I like barebacking..It s real pleasure ..........I did it with my poz BF all the time ......so spiritual ..But he s gone and I have to be a smart ass ......Barebacking makes me so anxious that I hate it now...Imagine getting syph and be resistant to penicillin...I m so lucky...I could be the first .Before I became poz in 2003 ...I never had unprotected sex ....My Bf had left me ..I was still madly in love with him....I was depressed and I met this John ..very attractive .We drank wine ....We had sex..I wanted to die..Eros and thanatos ..eros and death ..I told him to remove the condom...I wanted his cum in my ass .He was hiv poz...and I got the bug....Well I wanted it..the devil fulfill my prayer.....I spent my life avoiding it and vlam......My BF became poz himself one year later.....In 2009 ...we got again together in Nice France...I remember the first day I sucked his slavic dick crazy...We settled in Paris for one year...travelling here and there...The 12 of nov 2010 he went back to his native country...and from then on I was sick with CfS...I had to leave Paris to Canada as I could not stand to be in this apt in Paris all my myself with his ghost.....I m ready now and leaving Canada back for Paris the 26 of april.....Full of hope rebuild my life ....Life without passion is nothing.
'Love is a folly and friendship is mere feigning" Shakespeare
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Yes...I confess ..I like barebacking..It s real pleasure ..........I did it with my poz BF all the time ......so spiritual ..But he s gone and I have to be a smart ass ......Barebacking makes me so anxious that I hate it now...Imagine getting syph and be resistant to penicillin...I m so lucky...I could be the first .Before I became poz in 2003 ...I never had unprotected sex ....My Bf had left me ..I was still madly in love with him....I was depressed and I met this John ..very attractive .We drank wine ....We had sex..I wanted to die..Eros and thanatos ..eros and death ..I told him to remove the condom...I wanted his cum in my ass .He was hiv poz...and I got the bug....Well I wanted it..the devil fulfill my prayer.....I spent my life avoiding it and vlam......My BF became poz himself one year later.....In 2009 ...we got again together in Nice France...I remember the first day I sucked his slavic dick crazy...We settled in Paris for one year...travelling here and there...The 12 of nov 2010 he went back to his native country...and from then on I was sick with CfS...I had to leave Paris to Canada as I could not stand to be in this apt in Paris all my myself with his ghost.....I m ready now and leaving Canada back for Paris the 26 of april.....Full of hope rebuild my life ....Life without passion is nothing.
'Love is a folly and friendship is mere feigning" Shakespeare
Hadas,
Syphilis is one of the few (if only) bacterial infections which has never become resistant to penicillin. We don't really know why this is, it's a curious beast -- we know very little about it as an organism.
MtD
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I am allergic to penicillin so I took the obligatory doses of doxycycline.
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I am allergic to penicillin so I took the obligatory doses of doxycycline.
Yus. They also use erythromycin for those who cannot tolerate penicillin.
MtD
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When I Googled doxycycline I learned that it is also used to treat anthrax. Lovely ::)
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When I Googled doxycycline I learned that it is also used to treat anthrax. Lovely ::)
Doxycyclin is also Tetracycline I believe it's the same shit Dennis is on (and I've been on before). That and Azithromycin are as of the current date my 2 least favorite medicines ever. All sorts of GI fuck upped-ness.
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Doxycyclin is also Tetracycline I believe it's the same shit Dennis is on (and I've been on before). That and Azithromycin are as of the current date my 2 least favorite medicines ever. All sorts of GI fuck upped-ness.
Yeah that Xifaxan was for all the bacteria in my small intestines GI-tract cost $182.50 for a 14 day supply it's very expensive, but did the job, for now, I hope ::) I'm keeping my fingers crossed, been off of it for about a week now, all is good ;)
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l.....Full of hope rebuild my life ....Life without passion is nothing.
'Love is a folly and friendship is mere feigning" Shakespeare
I picked this up in your first posts and even responded. Finally now you post how invested you are in melodramatic, romantic ideas of love and passion. If this is really your unchangeable character, I guess there is no point offering advice. But just one final time I'll offer this advice - you have got to get invested in a project that has nothing to do with beautiful lovers and "crazy" passion, crazy sex, crazy lack of self-preservation.
This is 2011 - you aren't Baron Wilhelm von Gloeden. And we know story after story of how this need for romantic love ends in wasted lives and despair, and increasingly so as a guy ages.
As the years roll by, the rich ones continuing in this path - are going to attract guys who will drain every last drop of life force. The poor will be ever more frustrated at the absence of the masculine/beauty/exotic fix that once sustained. One is supposed to regal in these themes in poetry, novels and films, not emulate them in life. They are morality tales.
So to you I say, OK, you had a picturesque death wish and fulfilled it, but in a half-assed manner - after all HIV isn't necessarily a death sentence (and your devil must be very frustrated by the power of HAART!).
Do you really want to kill yourself over some man, or do you want to "play at" that for dramatic effect? I would guess you do have self-preservation instincts!
So how about investing in something that is more likely to return energy balance in your life. Work, helping others, social life, some project where you give and get energy from others. "Fated love" I dunno. Moth to the flame - based on your track record you are going to get burned to death eventually.
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This is 2011 - you aren't Baron Wilhelm von Gloeden.
He is famous for his photographs of the male nude, in which boys from Taormina posed.
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This is 2011 - you aren't Baron Wilhelm von Gloeden.
I've seen his photos. They look like stills from a crappy R.E.M. video....
CaptCarl
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... how Bieber-esque! :D
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inSPOT (http://inspot.org/STDInfo/SexualRisk/tabid/107/language/en-US/Default.aspx) A sexual risk chart that takes you through the different sexual acts and tells you what you may be putting yourself at risk for.
That is a helpful link.
I never want to have sex again.
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That is a helpful link.
I never want to have sex again.
:D :D :D FORD honey :-* don't worry about it dear ;D
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My Bf had left me ..I was still madly in love with him....I was depressed and I met this John ..very attractive .We drank wine ....We had sex..I wanted to die..Eros and thanatos ..eros and death ..I told him to remove the condom...I wanted his cum in my ass .He was hiv poz...and I got the bug....Well I wanted it..the devil fulfill my prayer.....
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Mecch
Thank you for your advise....I will try to learn how to control my emotions...Falling in love ...It 's like a tsunami..You are rolled in through the wave and there is nothing you can do...I will rebuild my life ..just counting on myself..Falling in love never brought me luck anyway....By the way as a past CFs sufferer, did you experience weakness in the legs ...Will it ever go away..
Thanks
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That list of what you can get does not mean that you will get anything @ all they are only KNOWN RISKS, I don't engage in such unsafe sexual practices, although I have been known to maybe once in a blue moon, are during one of my retrograde periods, or during times of lent ;D
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I don't get what all the controversy is. I mean look around. We all got fucked bare at some point (no I don't believe that you were infected through oral sex). Why try and look deep into his "reasons" for it. We all had our reasons. Some people are high and aren't thinking, some people are already positive, and some people are willing to take the risk, and some don't care. Maybe he just didn't care. So what.
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sorry---I meant to reply to that statement....let's not be quick to make statements that may be true for the poster but not for everyone here....we should try not to use the word "all"...
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sorry---I meant to reply to that statement....let's not be quick to make statements that may be true for the poster but not for everyone here....we should try not to use the word "all"...
I think it's probably safe to say that every single person who posts in these forums has, at one time or another, had intercourse without a condom. I find it hard to believe that anyone here - or any sexually active human being for that matter - would have used a condom EVERY SINGLE TIME they had sex.
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I think it's probably safe to say that every single person who posts in these forums has, at one time or another, had intercourse without a condom. I find it hard to believe that anyone here - or any sexually active human being for that matter - would have used a condom EVERY SINGLE TIME they had sex.
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If this is what you think then you clearly have not read many of the posts on these forums. If you had you would know for a fact that there are indeed many cases of Immaculate Infection. I mean we have one person who got it through his eye, another one who got it from a corpse. Not to mention one who barebacked for years, but was infected the one time he actually practiced safe sex!
Good God woman! Would you please keep your Doubting Thomas skepticism to yourself?
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CaptCarl
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Dear Carl,
:P
Love,
Ann
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Immaculate Infection :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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I agree with your statement Ann....guess I read when he used the word "got" to mean being on the "receiving end" and that's what I reacted to.......
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When I Googled doxycycline I learned that it is also used to treat anthrax. Lovely ::)
And acne (malaria as well). ;D
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And acne (malaria as well). ;D
Also chlamydia.
MtD
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I know you can find chasers here http://www.bugshare.net (http://www.bugshare.net) .
Im not sure if its still up and running though
Thats kinda on the darker side... A little too dark for me ... but each his own I say.
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I think it's probably safe to say that every single person who posts in these forums has, at one time or another, had intercourse without a condom. I find it hard to believe that anyone here - or any sexually active human being for that matter - would have used a condom EVERY SINGLE TIME they had sex.
Sweetie, not everybody on this site is a cum bucket, if you please.
I caught it from a toilet seat, thank you very much.
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I know you can find chasers here http://www.bugshare.net (http://www.bugshare.net) .
Im not sure if its still up and running though
Thats kinda on the darker side... A little too dark for me ... but each his own I say.
It says the domain name expired over a month ago -- you might want to remove this from your bookmarks :)
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Sweetie, not everybody on this site is a cum bucket, if you please.
I caught it from a toilet seat, thank you very much.
Yeah right, and you just keep-on drinking that kool-aide :D :D :D I got a bridge to sell ya, in Edgewood, NM and I can get you a real good deal on it :D :D :D
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Sweetie, not everybody on this site is a cum bucket, if you please.
I caught it from a toilet seat, thank you very much.
Ah yes, that must be the toilet seat I purposely infected. You're welcome very much! :-*