CD4 cells automaticcly increased

[Davidjudas]

Hello everybody... help me o understad what happening with me ... iwas diagnosed Hiv + at 2014 feburary then my CD4 count was 493 and cd4/cd8 was 0.59 and vl.8060 .. then i reapet it in October 25 now my cd4  count are 1010, m cd4/cd8 1.1 and vl=8080, i dont use meds ... fitnessing hard and drink 3 cups of green tea everyday.... is it normal , this tye of difference between 493 till 1010??

[Almost2late]

Hi David, I don't know but the numbers are really great.. Have you tried asking Dr. Joel Gallant?, thats what I would do ...
http://hivforum.tumblr.com/

BTW, Welcome to this place

[zach]

doubt the work out or tea had anything at all to do with the jump

yeah, its a big fluctuation, but i wouldn't look the gift horse in mouth, and don't read too much into it either

[Davidjudas]

i know that tea and fitness cant make a cd4 count higer....but it is hard to belive hat my cd4 count doubled

[AusShep]

Are you in the US?  Is there a reason you're not undergoing treatment?

The CDC now pretty much discounts measurements for staging HIV infection during the first 6 months of infection if the date can be proven via a negative test.  This is because your numbers can vary greatly at the beginning with very low cd4 counts that then rebound and begin a decline over time. 

[Davidjudas]

I lived in Armenia... i didnt take a meds.. when m cd4 count was 493 my docor said its ok lets wait 6 mount and we wil u u need a meds or no... so now my cd4 count is 1010.... 2 years ago i was negative

[zach]

current recommendations are start treatment as soon as possible. what is rationale for waiting? what would you be waiting for?

you're numbers are good, keep them that way, it takes more than hope

[mecch]

You all have noticed David lives in Armenia.
Not every country treats at diagnosis. 

David thats a great result.  You have a lot of breathing room to figure out what is best for you.

How is medical care and treatment for this where your live? Do HIV+ people have access to a lot of the combos?  And how is it funded..

[zach]

actually i did misread, scanned america in my head

yeah, meech questions are spot on

[Davidjudas]

i dont need meds right now, WHO also recomended to start treatment when cd4 count is near 500, but my cd4 count is high... have u seen this type of difference between 493-1010

[mecch]

Frankly, you need more than 2 tests, and over time, to see what your trend is.
Maybe your first test you were in the acute phase?  Then your body got its defense in order.
How many times a year will you be looking at levels?
Here in Switzerland its probably at least 4 times the year of diagnosis but then less. But here we start treatment.
If you aren't starting treatment it might be a good idea to get tested at least 3 times a year. Is that possible?

[Buckmark]

I have known people who have had these kind of increases in their CD4, especially when they are relatively early in their HIV infection as you seem to be.  As mecch said, it is the trend over time that matters.