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Title: I need help! Please answer
Post by: kitty87 on June 28, 2006, 05:24:05 pm
Hi.

I have three situations that I am extremely worried about as I am unsure whether I am likely to obtain the HIV virus through these situations.

My first situation is that i was walking through a nightclub and felt someone hit the back of my head. As I wasnt sure whether it was just the girls hand I felt the back of my head. I looked at my head but did not see any blood, my friend looked and said their was no blood. The day after I asked my boyfriend to check the back of my head, he said there was no marks or scratches. What are the chances that the person put a HIV infectd needle into my head? I am worried it was a needle and I did not realise. I was dancing afterwards.

My second situation is that I grazed my knee on the bottom of a big swimming pool in Spain. My boyfriend could not see any blood untill I reached the lockers where there was a little. Is it possible for the HIV virus to be transmitted through a swimming pool? I am worried someone else may have had a cut and I may have got the virus.

Finally I was walking around my hotel room and I stepped on a small sharp peice of stone that I had not seen on the floor. This cut was bleeding badly for about 10minutes. I am now worried I may have got the virus from the stone. There was no other people other than my boyfriend in the room but I am sure I could see a small dot of blood on the stone! What are my chances of getting the virus this way. As soon as it happened I washed my foot and kept it covered for the remander of the holiday.

Please reply as soon as you can as I am extremely worried about these situations, they are constantly playing on my mind. PLease explain to me whether or not these are risks.

Thanks x
Title: Re: Am I at risk? Experts Please Help
Post by: Matty the Damned on June 28, 2006, 05:52:58 pm
Kitty,

None of the incidents you describe present any risk for HIV infection. None of them. You really need to educate yourself about the ways in which HIV is and is not transmitted. Fear not! This can be achieved quite easily if you read our glittering Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) and follow the links to the HIV transmission lessons.

Regards,

MtD
Title: Re: Am I at risk? Experts Please Help
Post by: kitty87 on June 28, 2006, 06:03:35 pm
can some experts please reply to my questions!!  My main concerns are that the two cuts i had from the stone or in the swimming pool provide a route for potential hiv virus to get into my body.  now lets look at the worst situation, the stone i cut my foot on it had a blood mark on and im not sure if it was my blood or someone elses, if was another person then i cut my foot is there a risk of infection? Please explain.

Secondly i cut myself in a swimming pool which had thousands of people there as it was a water park,could the virus get into my bloodstream that way or would chlorine kill any hiv virus?

Thirdly in the nightclub if a needle did prick my head in the nightclub as i actually dont know what it was as it came from behind me i also had a few drinks that night, could infection happen that way due to someone pricking my head?

I really am thinking about testing as it is affecting my life to much, i need some advice on what to do, those are my only risks.  Please reply thanks xxxxx
Title: Re: Am I at risk? Experts Please Help
Post by: kitty87 on June 28, 2006, 06:19:00 pm
so can i have some replies please people as im really worried
Title: Re: Am I at risk? Experts Please Help
Post by: Andy Velez on June 28, 2006, 06:30:43 pm
There's not a lot to say in reply to your questions. There was absolutely no risk for HIV in any of those situations.

What you need to do is to read the lesson on this site about transmission. HIV is not just out there everywhere lurking to infect you. Transmission happens in very specific ways and by reading the lessons about transmission and testing you will get the essential infomation.

This epidemic is going to be around for a longtime to come so get down with those details. Then you can protect your health from the real risks and also spare yourself a lot of unnecessary worrying.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Am I at risk? Experts Please Help
Post by: kitty87 on June 28, 2006, 07:05:42 pm
hi andy i know you are one of the experts on this site and i thank you for your response.  Is there any risks at all for example if i was struck by a needle and it had contaminated blood on it, could i become infected as this blood would be able to get into my bloodstream?

Also the two cuts i had were fairly deep so for example the stone had some blood on after i looked at after i stepped on it.  i lost alot of blood and the cut was really deep.  if the stone did have somebody elses blood and it wasnt mine on the stone could transmission occur as there blood would have been able to get into my bloodstream?

How long would contaminated blood be able to last on a stone or syringe outside the body once exposed to the air?  I really am worried and im not sure if i should test over this incidents?  Also the cut i had in the pool would chlorine kill any potential viruses within the water?  please somebody get back to me and would like more expert opinions on my worries.  Thank you xxxx
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk????
Post by: HIVworker on June 28, 2006, 07:39:56 pm
Maybe you didn't understand Andy? It doesn't matter if you had a brick thrown at your head and it became embedded in it. You don't get HIV from bricks, stones, gravel, sand, glass or wood. Don't come back with some fancy story about someone with HIV bleeding on it and then you stood on it either. It is clear you are scared of HIV for some reason and that's a job for a mental health professional, not this forum.

NONE, and I honestly mean NONE of your stories are any sort of risk at all. I will not answer this thread any more either. So don't come back and say, "What if..." because it would only serve to confirm everyoned thoughts.

You need to get over your fear of HIV. You get HIV from penetrative sex. Not penetrative stones.

R
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk????
Post by: kitty87 on June 28, 2006, 07:41:23 pm
Also i would like the views of more experts as im really worried bout my situation, maybe people like the hiv worker etc who are really experienced in this field
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk????
Post by: kitty87 on June 28, 2006, 07:45:08 pm
thank you hiv worker, however what about stones with hiv blood on it?  how long would blood with the virus in live in an infectious state once exposed to the air?  Get back to me hiv worker thank you for your information thank you xx
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk????
Post by: HIVworker on June 28, 2006, 07:51:41 pm
I'm not going to participate in such madness. I said don't come back and say "What if" and you did. The reason is that you need to get some help for your irrational fear and 3 years in dealing with HIV anxiety has taught me that talking about the science of it doesn't help and is a waste of anyone's time who tries - no matter how much YOU think it might help, it's the worst thing possible to do.

You were not at risk for getting HIV.

Goodbye.
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk????
Post by: kitty87 on June 28, 2006, 08:02:46 pm
i would appreciate going through the science, however if not how long would hiv virus in blood stay alive when exposed to the sir hiv worker? Also does chlorine in pools kill any hiv virus in there was anything in the public swimming pool where i cut my leg?  These are really situations and i am worried please get back to me hiv worker then i will leave the forums thank you xx
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on June 28, 2006, 08:10:44 pm
reply hiv worker or another expert please?  Do i need to test over these incidents
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: Andy Velez on June 28, 2006, 09:42:44 pm
No, you do not need to test over any of these incidents.

You have absolutely no basis in HIV science for this stuff you are getting all worked up about.

Read the lesson on transmission. It gives you all the basics you need to know about HIV transmission.

You don't need more answers from more "experts." You just need to really listen to what has already been said to you.
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: lopez on June 29, 2006, 02:14:35 am

My apologies ... im editing my message ....
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: Ann on June 29, 2006, 05:54:51 am
lopez, Your comments are indeed out of place. Please stay in your own thread. Thank you for your cooperation.


Kitty,

Hiv stands for HUMAN immunodeficiency virus. That means it lives in the human body and the human body ONLY. Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus and it is successfully transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection. This includes you and your boyfriend. You need to be using condoms until you have tested together and are securely monogamous.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can make sure your fella is using them properly. While you're on either on of those pages, have a look through the bottom three links in the left-hand column. They discuss ways that you, as a woman, can protect yourself. I recommend the female condom as they are also excellent barriers against hiv infection, and importantly, they give YOU the control over condom use. They can even be put in place in advance so you're not fumbling around at the crucial moment. They're fiddly to use at first, but if you can put a tampon in, you can use these. It gets easier with practice. Give them a try. 

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

You will not get hiv from inanimate objects. No way, no how.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

Ann
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: lopez on June 29, 2006, 01:10:15 pm

my sincere apologies Ann.
Fred
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on June 30, 2006, 12:35:40 pm
if a needle did go into my headd tho with conaminated blood could hiv be passed this way, even though it would have been exposed to the air i would like to know. thank you
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: RapidRod on June 30, 2006, 12:46:43 pm
There is nothing more to discuss on your issues. You have been given the answers already. If you want to continue to worry about them seek out the help of a mental health professional.
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on June 30, 2006, 02:28:55 pm
if a needle did go into my headd tho with conaminated blood could hiv be passed this way, even though it would have been exposed to the air i would like to know. thank you

some expert please answer this question im really worried
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on June 30, 2006, 06:31:19 pm
please answer im really worried
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on June 30, 2006, 06:44:50 pm
if was struck by a needle with contaminated blood in a club could transmission occur?  Please help
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: Ann on June 30, 2006, 06:45:35 pm
Kitty,

No. You wouldn't be infected that way.

And besides, you'd know if you were stuck in the head with a needle. It would hurt like hell and not like an ordinary slap upside the head.

You need to be more concerned that your boyfriend and you are using condoms, instead of fretting about far-fetched needle scenarios. Stuff like that doesn't happen in the real world.

Hiv is primarily transmitted through unprotected intercourse. Use condoms for intercourse and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

Ann
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on June 30, 2006, 06:52:26 pm
hi Ann me and my boyfriend have unprotected sex however we have been both been tested and was clear however i am really worried about this needle situation as i was drunk when it happened and say i did get pricked by a needle with the hiv virus on in blood, could i become infected as me and my boyfriend do have sex regulary and we are both worried about this situation!!  We just need to know if i should test over this incident if say i did get struck by a needle, we are both faithful.  Please reply quickly as we are scared but more so me, please xxxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: Ann on June 30, 2006, 06:54:58 pm
Kitty,

I just told you that you would not become infected through this needle thing. That means you don't need to test.

Ann
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on June 30, 2006, 06:57:22 pm
Ann

Can you please explain to me why this is not a viable transmission route?  As blood on a needle could get into my blood stream that has the hiv virus on it?  Please explain please im so worried i thank you so much please reply
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: jkinatl2 on June 30, 2006, 07:01:04 pm
Please understand that you were not even stuck with a needle, much less injected with contaminated blood without your knowledge.

Spending hours on a treatise regarding the science behind this urban myth would be a waste of all our time. You have to come to grips with this irrational fear of HIV. I submit that staying on this forum will not assist you in that endeavor. Taking a wild leap of faith that you are actually serious, I encourage you to seek professional help do deal with this fear. You will not find your leace of mind here, I assure you, whether you are serious in these wild fantasies or not.

I sincerely wish you peace.

Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on June 30, 2006, 07:20:26 pm
Ann give me your views please on my following question
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on June 30, 2006, 07:36:22 pm
someone reply im so worried
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: Ann on June 30, 2006, 08:01:28 pm
Kitty,

I agree with Jonathan. You bring us a pretty wild scenario that is quite frankly, outside the scope of this forum. Infections don't happen like this in the real world and if that isn't enough for you, then go ahead and test, collect your negative result and move on with your life. If you cannot, then seek the assistance of a mental health care professional to help you put this to rest.

This is not an hiv situation.

Ann
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on June 30, 2006, 08:20:31 pm
so even if the needle had blood on it with the hiv virus and the needle/syringe went into my arm there is no risk of infection?  can somebody explain why this may of happened in the nightclub as i felt something sharp hit my head but it was from behind so i dont exactlly know what it was!  if it was a needle can transmission happen if not somebody please explain?????????????  Thank you you are all a great help please get back to me
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: RapidRod on June 30, 2006, 08:34:46 pm
kitty, I'm afraid if you continue after you've been given your answers, that you will be looking for a time out.

Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: DingoBoi on June 30, 2006, 10:59:24 pm
kitty, I will give you a direct response to your question. 

If somebody shoved a needle filled with hiv blood into your skull and injected it, yes, you are are risk of infections.

That's what you wanted to hear isn't it?

But take a step back for a moment.

If someone was going to try to infect somebody... they wouldn't do in in the skull
they'd do it in an arm or leg.

Besides the obvious hand with a needle puncturing your skull... there isn't any room to inject stuff there.... you would have felt it... and it would have hurt like hell.

there is virtually no skin between the scalp and brain skull.

you would know if you were injected with something.

it would be obvious.

Most of the responders here have been coddling you because, frankly, they think you are crazy, have ocd, or are just in need of attention.

The needle thing is an urban legend, and like i said, if one were to want to do that, it'd me much much much easier to do it in the leg or arm.

You have seriously reached your limit of credibility here.   If you have read the lessons you know how hiv is transmitted.

If you want to obsess about a smack to the head, then go test at 13 weeks.  It was probably a thrown icecube anyway.

That is the recommended testing time.   

Nobody here thinks you were at any risk whatsoever.

Frankly, we think it's your hyperactive imagination and possibly some mental issues involved.

You don't know how ridiculous this sounds to the rest of us.





Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on July 01, 2006, 06:30:33 am
hi the thing is i did feel something sharp hit my head thats why im in this forums looking for your advice, my original question are that this are just my risks and i have not had unprotected sex or shared needles to inject drugs.  As i was walking past i felt something sharp hit my head and obviously as it came from behind i dont actually know what it was, it could have been a hand however if did hurt when it happened, so im thinkin it could have been a needle?  So if it was a needle you are saying that i could be infected when before i was told that i couldnt be?  It happened as i was walking through nightclub and i was drunk would she have time to inject it?  Also woul.d i have had a mark on the back of my head if a needle went in there?  Its only been 3 weeks since it has happened do you think i need to test at all over this incident? I dont want to put anybody at risk!!!!  Please get back to me i know it sounds ridiculas however i really am scared nd im just looking for some advice on what to do with my situation.
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: RapidRod on July 01, 2006, 06:37:25 am
Now you are going to far with this. You've had shots before you know damn well it will leave a mark. You're pushing you luck on this forum.
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on July 02, 2006, 04:50:33 pm
so there is a possibiliyu that i could have been infected as i dont know what actually contacted my head?  if it was a needle with contaiminated blood how long would the virus live on a needle in blood???????????//  Do you think im worrying about nothin?  I am really worried.  I need some advice how long would the virus last in the air in blood if it was in a needle or syringe?  get back to me please please please
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: RapidRod on July 02, 2006, 04:58:22 pm
You've been given all the answers that can be given. This forum can not be of any help to you. Seek a mental health professional.
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on July 02, 2006, 07:27:39 pm
can somebody please answer my above question this is not a joke i am really scared
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: jkinatl2 on July 02, 2006, 07:43:06 pm
I respectfully withdraw from this thread, and urge the original poster, if she is truly serious, to seek the professional help she desperately needs.
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: Ann on July 02, 2006, 07:44:26 pm
Kitty,

Rodney gave you a friendly warning about time-outs, and now I'm giving you an official one. If you read the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0), you would have read the following:
Quote
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

This is your last chance. You had no risk for hiv infection in anything you have brought to us. If you keep posting about this no risk situation, you will be given a four week time-out.


Ann
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on July 03, 2006, 07:10:20 am
hi everybody i know you all seem to think i will be fine however i have developed swollen glands today really difficult to drink and eat cause of it, also i have had a sore throat the last few days!!!!!!!!!!!  Should i worry guys?????????  im really worried and scared as i always try to keep myself safe
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: RapidRod on July 03, 2006, 07:14:08 am
Seek professional help for your worries.
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on July 03, 2006, 07:20:14 am
i dont need professional help just need to know if i need to worry about these symptoms
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: RapidRod on July 03, 2006, 07:22:22 am
Go to a doctor. This forum can not be of further help to you.
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on July 03, 2006, 07:32:55 am
rapid rod u seem to have some problems with me, i dont care what they are just need to know if i need to worry bout these risks and symptoms?
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: RapidRod on July 03, 2006, 08:11:32 am
Again see a doctor, signs and symptoms can not be diagnosed on the internet.
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: Ann on July 03, 2006, 08:20:05 am
Kitty,

I don't think you read a word we write to you. I warned you that you were heading for a time out, but you ignored both my official warning and Rod's friendly one.

You are now being given a four week time out, and it starts right now.

Please see a doctor about your worries. We cannot diagnose you over the internet, we can only tell you that you had no risk of hiv infection in ANYTHING you brought to us.

Ann
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on July 03, 2006, 08:20:32 am
so am i at risk?  Thats all i need to know as i am in a relationship so its important for both of us please help
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: kitty87 on July 03, 2006, 08:22:32 am
please dont ban me
Title: Re: Experts Please Reply, REALLY WORRIED! Am I at risk???? Anyone reply
Post by: Ann on July 03, 2006, 08:23:53 am
Kitty,

I forgot to add that you must not create a new account to get around your time out. If you do so, you will be banned permanently, no questions asked.

Ann
Title: Extremely Worried! Pls reply I need answers!
Post by: kitty87 on August 02, 2006, 02:58:21 pm
Hi.

I really need some answers. I have just come back form America and had to share a room with three other people. I know that these people have a history of sleeping with prostitutes more than once. When I was in the bathroom I caught my finger on one of there razors. This left me with a cut on my finger that bled. I am now worried I may have become infected as I know the history of the people I was sharing the room with. I did not see any blood on the razor. Please help me, I don't know what to do.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Extremely Worried!
Post by: RapidRod on August 02, 2006, 03:01:51 pm
Please keep all of your questions and thoughts in your Orginal Thread.
http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=1343.0
Title: Re: Extremely Worried!
Post by: kitty87 on August 02, 2006, 03:06:20 pm
Rod I cant post anything in my original thread, what am I meant to do?
Title: Re: Extremely Worried!
Post by: RapidRod on August 02, 2006, 03:12:15 pm
You're correct it is locked and I now remember why.
Title: Re: Extremely Worried!
Post by: kitty87 on August 02, 2006, 03:18:53 pm
I thought this site was here to help people? This situation isnt a joke! Is it not true that they class razors as a risk? And the person who this razor belonged too had been with many prostitutes and it cut me? All im asking for is an answer.
Title: Re: Extremely Worried!
Post by: RapidRod on August 02, 2006, 03:30:45 pm
Theoretical risk, never has happened or documented to have happened.
Title: Re: Extremely Worried!
Post by: kitty87 on August 02, 2006, 03:35:06 pm
So do you feel that I need to worry about this or not?
Title: Re: Extremely Worried!
Post by: RapidRod on August 02, 2006, 03:48:33 pm
NO, it's not a  concern.
Title: Re: Extremely Worried! Pls reply I need answers!
Post by: kitty87 on August 02, 2006, 03:50:11 pm
What if there was that persons blood on the razor?
Title: Re: Extremely Worried! Pls reply I need answers!
Post by: RapidRod on August 02, 2006, 03:55:15 pm
Don't start with the "what ifs" again. You were just told it has never been documented to have happened in over 20+ years. 
Title: Re: Extremely Worried! Pls reply I need answers!
Post by: Ann on August 02, 2006, 05:46:27 pm
Kitty,

I've unlocked your original thread and merged it with your new one. Please keep any further comments in this thread - although I hope you do not have further comments.

People are not risky - certain behaviours are. It is highly insulting for you to assume the things you do about people. There is not a risk of hiv infection from a razor left lying around. Hiv is not transmitted in the environment this way.

It would seem that you did not use your time out to get the face-to-face help you need to deal with your hiv anxiety. This forum is not a substitute for counseling.

Ann
Title: testing Question
Post by: kitty87 on August 15, 2006, 07:59:00 am
Just need some information guys i live in the United Kingdom if say i was struck by a needle what is the window period?  Ive heard its six months for needle incidents is this true?  I just want to know how long i have to wait after a needle incident?
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: RapidRod on August 15, 2006, 08:10:46 am
Keep all you questions and thoughts in your orginal thread. http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=1343.0 (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=1343.0)
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: kitty87 on August 15, 2006, 08:11:24 am
i would like a reply from an exper, this is all the information i require
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: kitty87 on August 15, 2006, 08:12:02 am
expert reply please thank you
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: RapidRod on August 15, 2006, 08:15:08 am
Put your questions in your orginal thread like you were told. Read the "Welcome" tread also and follow the guidelines.
Title: Re: Extremely Worried! Pls reply I need answers!
Post by: kitty87 on August 15, 2006, 08:20:37 am
Just need some information guys i live in the United Kingdom if say i was struck by a needle what is the window period?  Ive heard its six months for needle incidents is this true?  I just want to know how long i have to wait after a needle incident?
Title: Re: Extremely Worried! Pls reply I need answers!
Post by: RapidRod on August 15, 2006, 08:23:37 am
We are not going to start this all over again. You seriously need to see a mental health expert.
Title: Re: Extremely Worried! Pls reply I need answers!
Post by: jkinatl2 on August 15, 2006, 08:23:56 am
After a month time out, andnothing has changed. You really don't understand, do you? You had no risk. This is NOT an HIV situation. I for one am not going to give you more ammunition for this irrational course you seem to be bound and determined to continue.
Title: Re: Extremely Worried! Pls reply I need answers!
Post by: kitty87 on August 15, 2006, 08:38:25 am
i just need an answer then i will leave the forum.  Wat is the window period after a needle injury in the uk?  Get back to me some experts
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: Ann on August 15, 2006, 09:10:39 am
Kitty,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Please don't make me do this again!

Thank you for your cooperation.

Kitty, the window period in the UK is twelve weeks. The only time that changes is if you have taken PEP and even that only extends the window by four weeks. The only other exceptions are people on chemotherapy for cancer or on immune-suppressant drugs following organ transplant.

You are quickly heading for another time-out. Please seek the assistance of a mental health care professional to help you understand and deal with your anxieties. We cannot do that for you here.

Ann
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: kitty87 on August 15, 2006, 09:33:07 am
hello Ann Thank you for your reply so its 12 weeks if like my self i am not on chemothreapy and am an healthy individual?  However i have read that you should test up to 6 months if you have a needle accident is this true? So if i test 12 weeks after the needle incident the test will be accurate?  Why does it take longer to make the test more accuate if the person is an IV Drug user?  Please make me understand!!  Thank you
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: Ann on August 15, 2006, 09:48:42 am
Kitty,

I can't make you do anything and this thread is proof of that.

You didn't have a risk of hiv infection. Really, you didn't. Test if you must, and accept the inevitable negative result. Twelve weeks is conclusive where there has been a needle injury and no PEP. A test for you over this incident will be conclusive at any time because it was NOT a risk for hiv infection. Period. End of story.

Ann
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: kitty87 on August 15, 2006, 01:13:37 pm
another incident happened this time where was struck by a needle so i just need to know the testing requirements?  So 12 weeks is long enough to wait but i thought it was 13 weeks?  Also why does it say on the internet that you have to wait 6 months to get a coclusive test result after been struck by a needle?
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: kitty87 on August 15, 2006, 01:29:29 pm
hi there can some expert reply bout my testing question
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: jkinatl2 on August 15, 2006, 01:33:39 pm
There comes a time when I feel really bad seeing a poster, or a thread, labeled as having made more contributions.

I am sorry that your irrational fear of having HIV has led you to this. I hope that someday you re-read this thread, and see for yourself what depths a person can plumb when faced with an uncertain future.

You did not, I assure you, get infected by a passer-by at a dance club wielding a needle.

I sincerely hope you are able to get the help you seem to need. I submit that you will only begin to examine that when you are forcibly "released" from this site.

Best of luck.

Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: angeles70 on August 15, 2006, 02:36:34 pm
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Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: Ann on August 15, 2006, 03:11:16 pm
angels,

You need to start your own thread and you need to use English as English is the language of these forums.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Ann
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: kitty87 on August 15, 2006, 05:45:44 pm
after the needle incident how long do you have to wait before the test result is reliable?  Some sources says 3 months and others say 6?  i live in the UK  Please somebody get back to me
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: RapidRod on August 15, 2006, 05:54:07 pm
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: kitty87 on August 15, 2006, 06:09:47 pm
wat is your problem i only want some information would prefer if you didnt reply to my questions ok
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: RapidRod on August 15, 2006, 06:15:27 pm
Not until you quit asking the same question over an over again. Your question has been answered in previous threads. You are about to be given a time out and you'll only have yourself to blame for it.
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: kitty87 on August 15, 2006, 07:06:02 pm
i just would like to know what the window period is for needle incidents is it 6 or 3 month?  I need to know as there is alot of conflicting information
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: Ann on August 15, 2006, 07:10:11 pm
Kitty,

You have not had conflicting information on this website. You have been told repeatedly that the window period is three months and you have also been repeatedly told that you have not had a risk of infection.

I'm giving you a four week time-out to encourage you to seek the face to face help you need and we cannot possibly provide. Do not create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned, no questions asked.

Ann
Title: Testing question
Post by: kitty87 on October 04, 2006, 08:43:34 am
hello there everybody i had my hiv test this morning, however i never saw the woman take the needle out of the packet before she drawn my blood, im wondering if she may have used it on the patient before me?  Really worried guys.  I dont know what to think.  Wats everyones thoughts?  I live in the United Kingdom
Title: Re: Testing question
Post by: RapidRod on October 04, 2006, 08:51:57 am
Pease put all your questions and thoughts in your orginal thread. My thoughts-- (You have very serious mental health issues that need looked into.)
Title: Re: Testing question
Post by: kitty87 on October 04, 2006, 08:58:27 am
just need to know if i need to worry about this as i didnt see the nurse take needle out of packet
Title: Re: Testing question
Post by: RapidRod on October 04, 2006, 09:03:46 am
This is your orginal thread, go back to it. http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=1343.0 (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=1343.0)
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: Ann on October 04, 2006, 09:09:36 am
Kitty,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

I see you still have not sought out professional help for your hiv related anxieties. If you are seriously worried that people, including health care workers, are out to infect you with hiv via needles, then I strongly urge you to talk to someone face-to-face about this. I can't see how we can possibly help you further here.

Ann
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: kitty87 on October 04, 2006, 09:14:34 am
Hello Ann and any other experts, i finally got the courage to go for the test this morning, all i am saying is that i live in the uk and when the nurse drawn my blood for hiv, syphlis and hepatitis i never saw her take the needle out of the packet are they suppose to do this?  Do i need to worry about this or not?  Just need your help and thoughts on the matter
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: RapidRod on October 04, 2006, 09:19:58 am
You are beyond our help. Look at your past posts. You need to seek help that we are not qualified to give.
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: Ann on October 04, 2006, 09:46:47 am
Kitty,

NO. You do NOT need to worry about it.

Ann
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: kitty87 on October 04, 2006, 09:52:50 am
Why dont i need to worry about this i was the 4th patient to have the blood test, so how do i no that the needle was not used on those patients if i didnt see it taken out of the packet?  get back to me
Title: Re: testing Question
Post by: Dogstar on October 04, 2006, 10:46:20 am
They use a NEW needle on every patient. It's is also against the law in any medical proffesion to do this. No worries.  Good Luck Dogstar
Title: I need help! Please answer
Post by: kitty87 on February 21, 2007, 02:00:55 pm
Hi

This is embarrassing but I really need to know. My boyfriend and I had sex and were lying on the bed then the dog jumped up and licked his penis. We're both worried now because we're unsure whether this is a transmission method for any type of virus?

I need help

Thanks
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: Ann on February 21, 2007, 02:10:26 pm
Kitty,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread AGAIN - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

A penis-licking dog is NOT going to transmit any sexaully transmitted infection to either you or your boyfriend.

Ann
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: ACinKC on February 21, 2007, 03:05:31 pm
It is not a risk and you would know that if you read the lessons on transmission.  I would consider closing your door tho cause thats just gross.
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: kitty87 on February 21, 2007, 06:24:09 pm
hello he licked the end of my boyfriend penis, and we have unprotected sex?  Are there any infections at all which can be passed on from the saliva in the dogs mouth?  We are mainly concerned if HIV is a risk as we always have unprotected sex?  Also do we have to wait 12 weeks now for a test?  Plese help us we  both want to stay safe
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: Ann on February 21, 2007, 06:33:31 pm
Kitty,

Dogs do not carry hiv.

Dog can carry worms, but worms infect the intestinal tract, not the penis. Dogs do not carry human sexual infections. They're dogs. Dogs and people are different.

Did you ever get that help we've asked you to get? It would seem not. It would also seem you've not learned a single thing about hiv infection in all the time you've been coming to this forum. I'm not sure there's much we can do for you.

Ann
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: kitty87 on February 21, 2007, 06:46:36 pm
yes i did seek help i having treatment at the moment.  Is there any chance at all that I cant get hiv from the dog even in the wildest of circumstances? He licked the hole part of penis?  Tract what do you mean so there are some infections which he needs to be checked out?  Can we carry on having unprotected sex?
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: Ann on February 21, 2007, 06:57:12 pm
Kitty,

What part of "dogs don't carry hiv" don't you understand? Hiv stands for HUMAN immunodeficiency virus. HUMAN. Not canine, not dog, HUMAN.

Neither you nor your boyfriend need to be check for ANYTHING just because your dog licked his penis.

Ann
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: kitty87 on February 21, 2007, 07:01:50 pm
so are we safe to carry on having unprotected sex has we have both been tested?  Canine what does that mean?  However don't dogs carry germs therefore these go inside my boyfriend as te dog licked the hole of his penis?
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: Ann on February 21, 2007, 07:07:57 pm
Kitty,

As long as you and your boyfriend aren't having sex with other people (the dog does NOT count) you can continue having unprotected sex with each other.

Canine is another way of saying dog.

A dog's mouth carries germs, yes. They are not germs that will affect your boyfriend's penis-hole. I promise.

Ann
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: kitty87 on February 21, 2007, 07:16:37 pm
your information is really grateful, We are both faithful, so we can both keep having unprotected sex!  So the dog licked the hole of my boyfriend penis what infections could he get?

is hiv a risk at all?
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: Ann on February 21, 2007, 07:22:40 pm
Kitty,

You keep asking the same question over and over. I've answered you. I'm not going to keep repeating myself.

This is the last warning you are going to get. If I have to give you another time out, this time it will be permanent.

Ann
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: kitty87 on February 21, 2007, 07:27:27 pm
Ann,

I dont want another time out!  Its just you said the dog carries germs, so what did you mean?  What kind of things could he have got?  We just wana stay safe?

Would you advise him to go for any tests?

Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: Ann on February 21, 2007, 07:30:09 pm
Kitty,

Talk to your doctor about it.

You and your boyfriend are NOT going to get any sexual infections from your dog.

Ann
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: kitty87 on February 23, 2007, 07:14:10 pm
even tho the dog licked his penis as he was lying on the bed asleep, are there any infections which my boyfriend may get?  Its just really both want to stay safe?  We don't want to carry on having unprotected sex if there is a small risk or any risk at all?  We are just thinkin the saliva in dog mouth could have a virus therefore wen licks the urethra its an openiing to my boyfriends body!  Any views from some experts would be great.  Please help us.
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: kitty87 on February 23, 2007, 07:15:11 pm
Also what germs from the do could my boyfriend get?
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: kitty87 on February 23, 2007, 07:15:46 pm
What germs from the dog could my boyfriend get?
Title: Re: I need help! Please answer
Post by: Ann on February 23, 2007, 07:26:25 pm
Kitty,

Speak to your doctor and your therapist about your dog worries.

You have been warned for the last time. Your concerns are far outside the scope of these forums. You are now banned - please get some professional, face-to-face help.

Ann