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Title: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: StanDaMan on April 09, 2007, 10:17:13 pm
To those I have offended:

I apologize for making you feel unsafe and fearful of every new member.  I did not intend to cause such anxiety and disdain.  There are people here I considered friends and I would never do anything to harm them.  I returned because I missed those people and had nothing else to fill the gap created after my banishment.  I did not come back to harass or attack anyone.  I wanted to participate in the lively discussions I enjoyed as a former member in good standing. 

Jonathan, don’t worry about “mega-creepy psychotic” charlatans here or in Atlanta in May.  As AIDSmeds self-appointed arbiter of right and wrong I’m sure you’re proud and feel vindicated to dispense with yet another evil, duplicitous person such as you describe:

Quote from: jkinatl2
Once you assume other identitiers, you are not only disprespecting the forum and all, but you are treating  your friends like rubes. And moreover, you are creating an atmosphere of paranioa and suspicion that makes newcomers feel unwelcome - or at least warily so. And that's dangerously disruptive to a forum like this.

But what I find particularly chilling is when a poster creates a new persona and attempts to worm his way into the crowd. Thats not just crazy. That's Serial Killer Crazy. That's clownshit.

I won’t return.  I’ve tried to take my life twice before without success. The third time is the charm, they say.  Tonight I have 4500 mg. of amitriptyline and 720 mg. of perphenazine and from what I can tell from poison control information the amitriptyline should be more than sufficient to insure success.  Just to be safe I’ll place my head in a plastic bag and tie it off at my neck.  I've had all the pieces in place for months and only needed the impetus to act. 

I have one very great favor to ask of thunter34, who seems the only friend I have left here.  Thank you, Tim, for your kindness.  I hate to burden you, and apologize for doing so, but I don’t want my cats and dogs to go unfed or uncared for (and it could be weeks before anyone notices my absence).  Please send an email message to arnocharlotte@cox.net to let her know what I’ve done.  Tell her my back gate and back door are unlocked and ask her to accompany the police inside so my dogs are not hurt.  Also, please let her know my will and other papers are in the large envelope behind the clock on the mantle in my bedroom.  She won’t see the email until tomorrow and by then everything will be fine.

Again, I’m sorry for my crimes against AIDSmeds members.  I hope some of you will forgive me and remember I wasn’t always such a despicable monster.  I wish you the best of luck and hope you have long, happy lives.

I don't have to sign my name, do I?  We all know it's mud.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 09, 2007, 10:18:23 pm
I won’t return.  I’ve tried to take my life twice before without success. The third time is the charm, they say.  Tonight I have 4500 mg. of amitriptyline and 720 mg. of perphenazine and from what I can tell from poison control information the amitriptyline should be more than sufficient to insure success.  Just to be safe I’ll place my head in a plastic bag and tie it off at my neck.  I've had all the pieces in place for months and only needed the impetus to act.

Boo,

Please seek medical attention.

MtD
(Who does love you, you know)
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: milker on April 09, 2007, 10:19:28 pm
NEXT!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 10:24:17 pm
Guys my gut tells me he is serious...Tim email that person immediately and forward Boo's thread. Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 09, 2007, 10:26:18 pm
Click the rat button and get a Goderator here, pronto I suppose.

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 10:29:36 pm
Whose got his phone number.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 09, 2007, 10:30:36 pm
I do.

I'm trying to call him.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 09, 2007, 10:32:24 pm
I've reported it to the Mods. If anyone has Boodles' contact details over there in Da States, get onto him. If he doesn't answer, call the relevant authorities in his state and pass his details on.

I'm not sure what the Goderators can do, given that Boodles has (presumably) been using proxies to log on and thus getting under the radar.

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 09, 2007, 10:32:37 pm
I just tried.  He's turned off his messages and it's not accepting any recordings.

I talked to him just on Saturday and he confessed coming close to doing what he's claiming just last week, so I know he has the materials and will to do it.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 09, 2007, 10:35:35 pm
Well seriously now is the time to contact his local authorities and pass his details on.

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 10:36:16 pm
If someone has the address call the New Orleans police now.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 10:39:31 pm
Has anyone called the police yet?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 10:41:38 pm
I repeat has anyone called the police yet?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 10:41:52 pm
Sent the mail to the address in the post.  Also wrote to him via my yahoo account (where he had also written me).

Going to try to find NO police department # now.

\
Got #  Calling.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 09, 2007, 10:42:35 pm
All I have is his cell phone # and only know Robert's first name.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 10:47:00 pm
Does anyone have a last name? If not maybe the phone company could forward his billing info to the police...we need to try something.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 09, 2007, 10:48:05 pm
Surely the Po-Po can get his details from his cell phone number?

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 10:48:33 pm
I have the name.  I tried calling NO Police with name and number.  They said they would not go without an address despite what I told them of the situation.  I called 411...they have a phone listing, but no address.

I do not know what to do at this point.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 09, 2007, 10:50:58 pm
Will the Ambulance service attend in the unwillingness of NO's Finest?

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 10:51:38 pm
What phone company does he use? Can you call them and try to get his address?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 10:52:37 pm
if anyone had andy ann or tim horn or peter on skype of IM services, look for them NOW and alert them.

andy just came on and off before i could get to him

i was given a home listing for rob that may/may not be the same person (but probably is), but no address is listed, so i am at square one with the police dept.  

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 09, 2007, 10:53:50 pm
Timmy,

I've reported the original post to the Mods and I just noticed Andy online a minute ago. I sent him a PM, but he appears to have logged off.

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Teresa on April 09, 2007, 10:55:29 pm
dont know if this will help but its worth a try
http://www.reversephonedirectory.com/

reverse phone number
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: milker on April 09, 2007, 10:59:46 pm
If you look for his email address on Google you get a number of phone numbers, including people that are near him and could check on him.

Milker.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:02:28 pm
well then DO IT.  I can't do all of it.

anyone that can help, do so now!


if you find a lead, pursue it and tell us about it after the fact
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 11:03:28 pm
Peter is on ask him for help
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:04:00 pm
sent mail to peter with all the info i have, and reported this thread to him just now

i do not know what else to do
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: milker on April 09, 2007, 11:04:35 pm
I'm trying i'm trying.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:04:53 pm
everybody stop telling me advice on how to help- do it with me, please!

not mad, just trying to go faster.   i can only call and type so fast.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 09, 2007, 11:06:06 pm
hunter, you are the only one with his email address

I enter my own email in google and it won't show anything, so really don't know what milker is talking about
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: milker on April 09, 2007, 11:09:25 pm
hunter, you are the only one with his email address

I enter my own email in google and it won't show anything, so really don't know what milker is talking about

Never mind Philly I came across the same numbers Peter found out.

I have no idea/clue on what's Boo's history. Is he likely to be on gay.com or some online thing?

Milker.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 09, 2007, 11:10:11 pm
Without knowing the e-mail address or phone number, how can we help?

R
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Teresa on April 09, 2007, 11:11:23 pm
Does he have a land line or just a cell phone number. I just entered my phone number on the reverse phone number and it said name and address available for 14.95. If anyone has his number I will gladly pay the 14.95 to get it. Not sure if it works the same with a cell phone.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 09, 2007, 11:13:08 pm
I've tried every damn reverse cell phone number thing I can find on Google.

They want money, and I don't have a goddamn credit card.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Teresa on April 09, 2007, 11:13:36 pm
I do
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 11:14:06 pm
I have the address [removed by moderators] call now11
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 09, 2007, 11:14:19 pm
me too
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 09, 2007, 11:15:06 pm
You kick ass! You sure it is right?

MAPQUEST [removed by moderators]
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 09, 2007, 11:16:10 pm
BOO!!! STOP!!!!!!!!!  there really are people here for you... where are you... what can we do?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: milker on April 09, 2007, 11:16:29 pm
let's hope everything is okay.

Milker.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 11:17:27 pm
I sure hope so the phone number is [removed by moderators] it was the only R Noremac I am sure it is right.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 09, 2007, 11:18:35 pm
we don't have any additional info regarding his address or phone numbers, etc.

I googled the email his listed in this thread, and found this:

[removed by moderators]

I'll see if I can find a home number for Charlotte Bass Lilly in N.O.

Peter

Peter, these folks just pick up pets. Do you think he knows them personally?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 09, 2007, 11:18:49 pm
FUCK!!!!!!! what NOW?!!!!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:19:52 pm
i just sent teresa a phone listing from NO 411 that MAY be his home number.  benj has the cell #.

FYI to all:

I looked up the number for NO Animal Rescue and left a message there.  It says the animal emergency line is continually checked and monitored and they will call if need be.

I told them my name, number...why I was calling and on behalf of rob.  I told them i was calling them because I had charlotte bass lilly of ARNO listed in an email that Boo left so someone could get to the animals he has...and thus, it was both a human and animal emergency.  I also gave them Boo's name and the number I had.  Hopefully, they may check the liine soon and hell, they may even know exactly who he is and where he is since he has all those pet and is that tied in with charlotte lilly.  there was no available llisting for charlotte lilly thru 411.  i did send an email to her through the address provided at the top of this thread to explain why.

in all cases, animal rescue and charlotte lilly have my name and number and can contact me (and hopefully will) as soon as anything is known.  

i cannot get over that NO police can't (or won't) even bother to try to research an address based on two phone numbers to try to check out a suicide threat.  i tried through my local 911 also to see if they would relay.  no luck
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 11:20:09 pm
Is someone calling the police?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Peter Staley on April 09, 2007, 11:20:30 pm
he emailed us a few weeks ago, using rfnoremac@cox.net, but that email bounce on me recently.  He signed his email "Robert Cameron"
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 09, 2007, 11:20:49 pm
I sure hope so the phone number is 522-5024 it was the only R Noremac I am sure it is right.

Good stuff. Police on their way?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 09, 2007, 11:21:44 pm
thank god!!!!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 11:21:54 pm
Tim I gave you his address [removed by moderators] call the police.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 09, 2007, 11:23:01 pm
The Police department should be the 8th district according to the address you posted. He lives at ZIP 70130. That's the same zip as the NO 8th district..

Phone # 504-658-6080 for the 8th district.

See here to check where I got that from... https://secure.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=50&tabid=24 (https://secure.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=50&tabid=24)
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Andy Velez on April 09, 2007, 11:23:14 pm
Boo, I don't think Tim is by any means your only friend here. I can tell you there are many of us who are both sad and concerned that you have ended up being banned.

Your animals will never get taken care of properly if you aren't around. So if you really care about them I suggest you go immediately to your nearest emergency room and tell them what you are planning to do. Tell them you would like to have your animals cared for. Alternatively you might call the police 911 and tell them your plans.

Maybe the third time will be the charmed one Boo. Charmed in the sense that despite everything you are in despair about with good reason is outweighed by the loss that offing yourself would be for all concerned.

Whether you remain a part of the Forum or not, I would like to see you stick around.

And changing your mind and deciding to do that is not a blot on your character or courage. I don't doubt that you are capable of offing yourself.

I've lived through this experience with others before this. For what it's worth or not to you, it leaves terrible wreckage for all those left behind.    

So again I suggest you get yourself to an emergency room or call 911 right now.

Even if those who have failed you here and elsewhere don't matter enough to you, those animal friends who count on you will certainly suffer because of your absence.

RSVP.

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:25:10 pm
i have emergency on ohone now.  getting an ambulence now
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 09, 2007, 11:25:51 pm
Good work. Anything else we can do but cross fingers? Do they have him? what do we know?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 11:26:11 pm
I need to know if someone called the goddam police with his information!!!

Never mind good job tim.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 09, 2007, 11:26:28 pm
just got th NOPD # if that doennt work...
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:27:44 pm
ambulance on way to [removed by moderators] right now.

gave full story regarding rob- the pills and the depression.. this is serious...the whole deal.  felt i had to spill everything to make sure they took it seriously.

they told me i could call back in about 30 minutes to find out what had happened

gave them name, address, and the number i had.  i had police, emt, and 911 dispatcher on the phone at once.

that hopefully will do it.

hang on, rob
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 09, 2007, 11:28:04 pm
LIs, check up a few posts. I put the 8th district # up. That's 1.7 miles from his house.

R
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 09, 2007, 11:29:00 pm
Good work thunter, keep us informed. I'll log back in before I go to bed.

R
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 11:29:43 pm
ambulance on way to felicity right now.

gave full story regarding rob- the pills and the depression.. this is serious...the whole deal.  felt i had to spill everything to make sure they took it seriously.

they told me i could call back in about 30 minutes to find out what had happened

gave them name, address, and the number i had.  i had police, emt, and 911 dispatcher on the phone at once.

that hopefully will do it.

hang on, rob


Way to go Tim you done great kid.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 09, 2007, 11:30:04 pm
I've been calling his cell repeatedly.

It's going to a different voicemail message than it was an hour ago.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 09, 2007, 11:30:25 pm
thank you !!!!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Peter Staley on April 09, 2007, 11:31:06 pm
good job, Tim.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:32:36 pm
and when this over, i just might need an ambulance myself.

i sure could use a few arms right now. 

dear god...
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Teresa on April 09, 2007, 11:33:23 pm
You did good Tim!!

Hugs
Teresa
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: RAB on April 09, 2007, 11:34:06 pm
two arms reaching out to you



RAB

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 09, 2007, 11:34:55 pm
 I just talked to him.

He said he was in a hotel.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 09, 2007, 11:35:56 pm
Shit shit shit shit.

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 09, 2007, 11:36:41 pm
He hung up on me after saying he was gonna do what he had to do.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:36:57 pm
what?!

911 just called and they have an ambulance at the door of [removed by moderators] with no answer.

i just got off the phone with them telling them to break in if need be because of the circumstance

what hotel?  where the fuck is he?

i even gave them this website address to verify this thread and whaty is happening.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 11:37:21 pm
jesus fucking christ.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 09, 2007, 11:38:21 pm
I tried asking him what hotel.  He didn't tell me.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:38:41 pm
i don't know what they are gong to do right now.  they said they were gong to call me right bavck

they may break in.

in a hotel?  jesus christ
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: ademas on April 09, 2007, 11:41:26 pm
1-800-SUICIDE
1-800-784-2433

call them, Boo, or call one of us.

Please.  I'm begging.

Look at all these people here. 
We do care about you. 
Please.

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 09, 2007, 11:41:39 pm
Now he won't pick up.

FUCK!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Peter Staley on April 09, 2007, 11:42:05 pm
the back gate and back door are supposedly unlocked.  Maybe his phone has a list of last dialed numbers on it, including a hotel number.

I'm afriad we're running out of options here.  he planned this pretty carefully so as not to be stopped.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 09, 2007, 11:43:26 pm
Tim tell them the back door is open...that's all you can do.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:43:35 pm
i tried too.  no answer.  LM.

i hope he will call me.


fuck...non smokers can fuck themselves.  i am having a cigarette.

and holding the phone and waiting


if they do break in and call me back, i will tell them what peter said about checking for recently called numbers
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:45:09 pm
i know this is not a very religious site, but if there are those among that believe...pray

for the rest, hope or wish on a star or whatever you feel you can do to focus energy that way
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Teresa on April 09, 2007, 11:47:07 pm
I have been!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 09, 2007, 11:48:03 pm
I pray that Boo finds peace... I havent felt this helpless to help in a long time... God be with us all and god be with Boo...
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: puertorico2006 on April 09, 2007, 11:48:56 pm
 :o :o :'( :'(

i just saw this thread..i hope he is allright ...

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 09, 2007, 11:49:20 pm
I don't think he has a car... I'm trying to call hotels I can find on Google near his address to see if he's there.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: milker on April 09, 2007, 11:49:41 pm
I'm gonna get hit very hard on that one. But let the guy do what he wants to do.

We can start another thread on that later.

Milker.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: xtremepms on April 09, 2007, 11:55:36 pm
I'm gonna get hit very hard on that one. But let the guy do what he wants to do.

We can start another thread on that later.

Milker.

That is just cold.  You must not of ever been touched by suicide and the devastation left behind.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 09, 2007, 11:58:09 pm
i just got off the phone with animal rescue.  the man knows charlotte bass lilly and is contacting her to (1) let her know about the animals (2) see if she can come up with contact info or anything else regarding noremac or cameron.  
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: milker on April 09, 2007, 11:58:17 pm
That is just cold.  You must not of ever been touched by suicide and the devastation left behind.

I have, and I remember it vividly. It was on a gay.com chat room, the guy threathened to commit suicide and did it. I willl never forget this.

Milker.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 09, 2007, 11:58:33 pm
God. Damn. It.

I've tried about 10 hotels and no luck so far.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 09, 2007, 11:59:12 pm
This isn't the time for opinion Miker, with due respect. DO start that thread, but not for here.

Now, he doesn't have a car. So he must have walked.

Here are all the hotels in his ZIP. They are in a cluster. We can assume he used his real name and it might not be an expensive one...or can we make that assumption?

http://www.google.com/maps?e=ClusterH2&hl=en&q=hotel&near=70130&sa=X&oi=local&ct=title (http://www.google.com/maps?e=ClusterH2&hl=en&q=hotel&near=70130&sa=X&oi=local&ct=title)
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:00:05 am
pardon me, but milker...get the fuck out of here.  log off if this is not to your taste and you are overcome with such desire to resume talking about bathhouse orgies and such.

i cannot believe you.  yes, you are gonna get hit hard on this- and i dare say it won't be hard enough.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:00:34 am
Rich, that's what I'm going on.

I have a map up of where he lives and am trying to call the places closest to that and going out.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:02:00 am
You tried the "Pontchartrain Hotel"?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:02:10 am
a life is at stake here, and all things told, that is the essence of why we are here.  and you may not see this tying in to hiv, but i dare suggest that it does.  

this is about all of us...this is a family to me as much as it can be.

apologies if i have breached online rules, but i - never mind
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 12:03:31 am
just spoke to NOPD... there sending someone out.....
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:04:04 am
You tried the "Pontchartrain Hotel"?

Yes.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 10, 2007, 12:04:13 am
Tim worry about the other stuff later stay focused on the task at hand.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:04:24 am
Christ, there are 5 pages of hotels in that area...
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: milker on April 10, 2007, 12:04:41 am
to yall

Been there done that. I've had this heart attack because a friend commited suicide. Been there done that. Panic, call to 911 and all. I will respectfully withdraw.

Milker.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:05:18 am
OK, you keep trying and I'll come up with a list of hotels for you. That way I search, you phone.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:08:32 am
OK, you keep trying and I'll come up with a list of hotels for you. That way I search, you phone.

OK.  I have all the numbers I've tried in my phone... thank you!  It's time consuming doing it the way I'm doing... I have to Google, check maps, and then call.

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 10, 2007, 12:09:45 am
I can't imagine him checking into a hotel and using his real name if he's really committed to suicide.  One must remember who we are dealing with here, and he's unfortunately extremely intelligent.  I have no doubt if he's serious about this that he's laid it all out in his head.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: ademas on April 10, 2007, 12:10:08 am
Is there no IP# information from the thread he started here?

If he wasn't at home when he posted this, and he posted from a wireless network at a hotel...isn't there some way to look that up?

(I don't know much about this stuff, but I know that a friend of mine who runs another small forum I frequent can always tell if I'm logging in from a different place than usual.)
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Andy Velez on April 10, 2007, 12:10:18 am
To Milker and others who responded to him, let's not get sidetracked from the main issue here. Other thoughts  and stuff can be dealt with later if need be. .

Let's stay focused on the emergency at hand. You all are amazing here tonight in rising to the occasion.

Much love to all of you,

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 12:10:31 am
GOOOOO BENJ and all

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Mouse on April 10, 2007, 12:11:36 am
Is there no IP# information from the thread he started here?

If he wasn't at home when he posted this, and he posted from a wireless network at a hotel...isn't there someway to look that up?

(I don't know much about this stuff, but I know that a friend of mine who runs another small forum I frequent can always tell if I'm logging in from a different place than usual.)

From what I've heard his IP address changes through some wonky technology thing I don't understand, being how he was capable of using different screennames here.

I'm not sure if that means one of them would be trackable or not, though.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:12:27 am
You have to have a credit card to check into a hotel... or some other form of ID, I think.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 12:13:19 am
I think he is at home...
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:13:26 am
OK here are some nearby...

<deleted>

I thought I would delete all the hotel phone numbers from this forum
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:14:06 am
Thank you!  Thank you!

I've just been asking for his name instead of telling the story. 
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:16:01 am
rob on phone now

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:17:27 am
You got him?? tell him to call me!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:18:56 am
Tim, what's going on?  What did he say?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 10, 2007, 12:19:09 am
Tell him I will room with him in Atlanta and Benj will dance the hootchie-koo.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:19:14 am
i don't know what to say to him.  


trying to get him online now

help me i do not know what to say to him
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:20:02 am
Tell him we love him. Try get it out of him where he is. Get him to IM on yahoo...
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 10, 2007, 12:20:25 am
say anything keep him talking
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:20:40 am
he says he wants to die.  i believe him.

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: RAB on April 10, 2007, 12:21:26 am
cell or land line?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:21:42 am
Tell him we want to talk to him on Yahoo
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 10, 2007, 12:21:50 am
Tell him not now tell him he promised to meet me in Atlanta
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:22:18 am
Also ask him if a few words on an internet forum are worth this?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:22:52 am
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Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:23:26 am
Can you hear anything like cars or something?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:23:43 am
Tim... keep him on the phone.

Get him to tell you where he is, and we can find it on Google and call an ambulance.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 12:23:49 am
WHERE IS HE????    please i hope he tells so help can be called...
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:24:06 am
Ask him if he wants to talk to me
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 10, 2007, 12:24:15 am
Just keep him talking, doll.

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Teresa on April 10, 2007, 12:25:25 am
Tim...I googled that number....Its Animal rescue new orleans
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:25:57 am
[removed by moderators]  

That's the number you got him at?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Teresa on April 10, 2007, 12:27:15 am
Animal Rescue New Orleans - [removed by moderators] 
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 10, 2007, 12:27:39 am
emphasis his pets' well being... it is his soft spot
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 12:27:45 am
just called it and got voice mail..
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:30:40 am
i still have him on the phone.  hard to try to talk.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Andy Velez on April 10, 2007, 12:30:52 am
You're doing great, Tim. As others have suggested just keep him talking.

If you find the space for it ask him how he wants peopel to feel about him, how he imagines they feel or will feel. Ask him details about his animals like their names and how long he's had each of them.

Tell him you're worried about them because you know they never get properly treated when an owner is gone.

The more he talks the less likely he is to act and the very fact that he's talking at all is a sign of ambivalence on his part. But that doesn't lessen the danger that he will act impulsively.

Again, you're doing very well, Tim. Follow your instinct about what to say.

I don't know if you have a second phone so that you could notify the police on one line to trace the call or maybe someone here could call the police and get them to trace the call from your line.

Anyone here who can help with that?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:32:04 am
rob needs am for support.  i say you should let him back online.  he is without alternate support and needs this noew.  i respectfully ask that you allow him to talk on here right now
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:32:31 am
Please keep him on the phone, dude.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:32:52 am
did he ask for it
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:33:19 am
rob needs am for support.  i say you should let him back online.  he is without alternate support and needs this noew.  i respectfully ask that you allow him to talk on here right now

agreed
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 10, 2007, 12:34:04 am
Timmy,

You're doing a smashing job. Tell Boodles there is a conga line of lovers waiting to talk with him.

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:34:37 am
He can read this without being logged in....he just cant talk to us
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 10, 2007, 12:35:14 am
Andy already said he could come back
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:35:57 am
Get him back then or get him on IM yahoo
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 12:36:26 am
let him come home.... POST!!!!!!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:36:39 am
Log on, Boo!

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 12:38:11 am
you are loved.. more then you know... we NEED you please come home!!!!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Damon on April 10, 2007, 12:38:39 am
tell him I will bitch slap JK
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:39:11 am
Yes, come home. There are 2 pages of instant love for him. Tell him that.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 10, 2007, 12:41:25 am
Damon this is hardly the time.

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 12:42:25 am
you can do this.. I know it hurts, and i know its hard... but you gotta wait for the sun to rise tomorrow... PLEASE.. one more day..
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Andy Velez on April 10, 2007, 12:42:32 am
Tim, I just called Peter. He is lifting the ban on Boo Radley as I write. We've never lifted one before so I couldn't get through the process fast enough.

He will shortly be able to write if he wants to. Stay tuned.  
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:43:46 am
Tim, I just called Peter. He is lifting the ban on Boo Radley as I write. We've never lifted one before so I couldn't get through the process fast enough.

He will shortly be able to write if he wants to. Stay tuned. 

Huzzah! 

Thank you, Andy!

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Teresa on April 10, 2007, 12:43:56 am
Boo,

You are loved and needed here!

Teresa
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 12:44:04 am
THANK YOU!!!!! (crying now)
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:45:06 am
Log on, Boo!

I promise to come to New Orleans and clean your house for you!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:46:19 am
he says he feels embrassed to talk here now because of all that has happened.  how can he come back now he asks.  no want pity.  

how can i convince him to log here?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:47:16 am
please tell peter to hurry....hurry with the log on
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:47:38 am

He will get no pity from me. Just my thanks.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:47:53 am
He can come back here because people here love him... and love isn't something that asks that others be embarrassed when they're hurting.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:48:19 am
and I'll clean aupointillimite's house too
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:48:44 am
tell him we are waiting to cheer him back
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 10, 2007, 12:49:37 am
Boodles,

All is forgiven. Don't worry about it. We're well past the embarrassment stage here.

:-*

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 12:50:06 am
boo... you don't have the corner on that market... Sweetie.. we love YOU!!!! all of you.. you are feeling bad now, but there are people that feel that with you!!  you are special.. you are a gift to us all!!!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Teresa on April 10, 2007, 12:50:54 am
No pity...we just want you back!!!

Teresa
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:51:42 am
plz let me know when he can log back on
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 12:52:43 am
I sent a PM to peter to tell you the moment he has done it. He probably would have anyhow...
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Andy Velez on April 10, 2007, 12:52:52 am
Tell him he needs to have humility which is not the same thing as humiliation. That his life is more important than the temporary feeling of embarassment. Even if he doesn't feel that way right at this moment.

Tell him (and I really mean you should say this) that I know he's an asshole and I don't have any problem with that. He's still in the club anyway.

Remind him that months ago when he was telling us he was leaving because he had screwed up I told him then his request to quit was declined. And it's still declined.

He's stuck. He has to stay. Not negotiable.

Also, tell him I am very, very tired and I need to get to bed but I can't do that until I know he's back here. I consider it very inconsiderate of him to deprive me of my sleep this way and I will expect an appropriate reward for same.

Please advise.

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Ann on April 10, 2007, 12:53:09 am
Robert,

Get your ass back here - I told you people here loved you! Empathy, Robert, empathy. Now please post and put all our minds and hearts to rest that you're ok. Your ban has been lifted. (Boo)

Thank you Tim and everyone else who had a hand in finding Robert and bringing him back to us.

Ann
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Ann on April 10, 2007, 12:54:31 am
Also, tell him I am very, very tired and I need to get to bed but I can't do that until I know he's back here. I consider it very inconsiderate of him to deprive me of my sleep this way and I will expect an appropriate reward for same.

Please advise.



And I'm going to miss my flight to Liverpool!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:55:51 am
hold tight

alomst there
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 10, 2007, 12:56:14 am
And I'm going to miss my flight to Liverpool!

The swim will do you good. ;)

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: aupointillimite on April 10, 2007, 12:57:34 am
Boo's online!

HUZZAH!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Boo Radley on April 10, 2007, 12:58:56 am
And I'm going to miss my flight to Liverpool!

Ann,

please go to the airport asap.

i am fine.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 12:59:35 am
he says he types slow....the wait is killin me here!

c'mon, boo!n  you can do this
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 01:00:00 am
BOO!!!!! WELCOME!!!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 01:00:12 am
whats up?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 01:00:23 am
thank you, boo.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: milker on April 10, 2007, 01:01:10 am
.. I'm definitely outta here. Thanks for the ride.

Milker.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 01:01:34 am
you still talking to him thunter?
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 01:01:51 am
alright, boo.   let's do this.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Jerry71 on April 10, 2007, 01:02:43 am
 ;) Boo welcome back to the family you had is all worried. Glad your ok. :-*
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 10, 2007, 01:03:05 am
Time for a fresh thread, methinks.

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 01:04:02 am
not even benj has gotten me on the phone...this is vaulted territory here, boo boo.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 01:04:44 am
Time for a fresh thread, methinks.

MtD


agreed.  time for a new page to turn.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Boo Radley on April 10, 2007, 01:05:22 am
i'm sorry for making this mess.  i am fine.  please don't worry about me.  go to sleep.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 01:05:44 am
Boo start a new thread and let us know your thoughts.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 01:06:22 am
i'm sorry for making this mess.  i am fine.  please don't worry about me.  go to sleep.

oh, as if!  we got you here....we're chatting a bit.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Sdgirl on April 10, 2007, 01:06:43 am
I am so proud of all of you for coming together and helping Boo out................You came together like a "family" one that Boo is very much a part of.  BRAVO!  Wellcome back Boo, now don't every pull that shit again!  {{{{hugs}}}}
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 01:06:51 am
boo... thank you for the reminder in how to love..... (you scared me you .... you....... youu.... never mind)
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 01:06:57 am
Boo. That is good to hear, but we have been worried. I guess we all want to see you are going to make it tonight.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 10, 2007, 01:07:43 am
i'm sorry for making this mess.  i am fine.  please don't worry about me.  go to sleep.

At ten past three in the afternoon? Not a chance, lovechunx. :-*

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Andy Velez on April 10, 2007, 01:09:34 am
I'm not going to lock this thread because I have the thought it might cause some confusion.

But I do agree with the suggestion to start a fresh one, so Boo, you or someone else should do that now. 

Good night to all. xxxxxooooo

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: thunter34 on April 10, 2007, 01:09:44 am
off the phone now.  alright, benj...can i get a witness?  i NEVER talk on the blasted telephone....yet oddly enough, that was actually a pretty charming call in spots.  boo has one of the best senses of humor going....you can really hear it in the voice.  i'm happy about that.  may just have to break from tradition and start calling some of you bitches.  
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 01:10:53 am
Good work Thunter!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Ann on April 10, 2007, 01:16:38 am
((((((Robert))))))

Taxi's here... I'll talk to you when I get home.

Ann
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 01:17:54 am
I'll come see you too Boo. I hear there are about 500 hotels in your neighborhood.   :-[

Ann, send me some Earl Gray from Liverpool..

R
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Robert on April 10, 2007, 01:43:30 am
((((((TIM)))))))
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Robert on April 10, 2007, 01:47:45 am
Let me rephrase this:


(((((( TO ALL OF YOU ))))))

robert
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: jkinatl2 on April 10, 2007, 03:29:28 am
Great, I take a nap wnad wake up to find Im responsible for a suicide. Any news at this point?

And Boo, if for any reason you read this, you know I never wanted to see you inany pain.



Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: jkinatl2 on April 10, 2007, 03:36:09 am
Boo I am glad you are back. I never wanted you to leave in the first place.

I understand if you despise me now, but it's important that you  know that.

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: carousel on April 10, 2007, 04:41:18 am
JK

I was just wondering what your intentions were?  Is this a retraction of what you said yesterday, or something else? 

Charles
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: jkinatl2 on April 10, 2007, 04:52:56 am
JK

I was just wondering what your intentions were?  Is this a retraction of what you said yesterday, or something else? 

Charles

No, I don't retract what I said. I think its terrible to mess with the goodwill of a forum by assuming multiple identities. I was actually referencing JesusLovesMe/IHaveHope in the thread which was quoted.

I also don't think its fair at all to be called out like this. But this thread is not the place for that discussion. I am sorry Boo felt and feels such despair, and I hope he knows that this forum exists as a safe haven if he chooses to utilize it as such.

Sorry, I do not own this thread nor this situation.

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 10, 2007, 05:04:11 am
Carousel,

JK has said nothing which warrants retraction.

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Boo Radley on April 10, 2007, 07:19:43 am
The world is a better place with you in it, Boo.

Oh, please, Jonathan, I've got to call BULLSHIT...  I'm not that stupid.  I don't despise you or have any feelings about you other than the realization you are one of many who despise me.  I can deal with that.

What I can't live with is being a charity case on AIDSmeds and I thank you for your unequivocal contempt for someone as pathetic as I am.  Your unwielding sense of moral superiority is a great service to the world.

I've ingested the triavil and soon my tired old body will cease the biological functions that keep sad old fuckers like me alive.

Tim, Benj, Ann, Philly, Doxie, Matty, HIVworker, Lis, Teresa, Andy, and everyone else who reached out to me, I can never thank you enough.   I was very touched by your kindness.  I know after I'm gone some will remember me fondly but one insignificant person's demise is of little importance in the greater scheme. 

I apologize to everyone who stayed online while I was wishy-washing last night.  At 6 AM my mind is clear and I know my choice is best.  Nobody wants to be bothered by a sad-sack and that is all I am. 

A pathetic excuse for a human who could never come close to your perfection, Jonathan. You're truly an example all good people should try to emulate.  One couldn't get closer to cosmic pefection than you.  I leave this mortal coil in awe of your perfection.  If I only had the capacity to be superior to the rest of the poor suckers stuck in this world I might remotely approximate your apotheosis, but I cannot.  I can't even try; futility personified.

Timmy, I'm sorry to let you down.  You kept me alive longer than anyone else could have.  I know once I'm gone you may have regrets but you helped me get past a crisis and you must remember that.  I love you.  I love you.

Boo
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: GSOgymrat on April 10, 2007, 07:32:53 am
I don't know everything you are going through but I wish you would not give up. You'll be letting all those conservative assholes you hate so much win.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Peter Staley on April 10, 2007, 08:06:48 am
That's great, Boo.  The first thing you do after I lift the ban is vicously attack someone who reached out to you.

Amazing.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Boo Radley on April 10, 2007, 08:25:08 am
That's great, Boo.  The first thing you do after I lift the ban is vicously attack someone who reached out to you.

Amazing.

Isn't it amazing?  A loving, caring person like Jonathan reaches out to me and I bite off the hand extending the olive branch.  Did you bother to read any of the posts that preceded mine?

Just ban me again.  The dead don't give a fuck about the Internet or AIDSmeds.  Thanks for all you've done.  You're a real mensch.

 
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 10, 2007, 08:26:37 am
Please everyone just step back and take a minute...this can all be worked out.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Dachshund on April 10, 2007, 08:38:57 am
Look I know everyone is on edge but I hope things can calm down. I have sent Boo pm's and emails and hope to talk to him about his anger. So please keep that in mind before we pass judgement and I respectfully ask that we keep the comments to a minimum.

Thanks for your patience.
Hal
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Lis on April 10, 2007, 08:51:27 am
good morning Boo..

your in my prayers....
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Tim Horn on April 10, 2007, 09:33:28 am
Okay, gang...

Here's what we, the moderators, are up against.

Around 12:30 last night, Peter reactivated Rob's account so that he could communicate with everyone as Boo Radley, given the seriousness of the situation at hand.  He posted messages as Boo Radley at 12:58, 1:05, and 1:21, sounding exhausted and exasperated.  This, however, didn't stop him from using a new account, "slothgoth" (created 4/6/07), so that he could participate in a totally unrelated Forum thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=11146.msg139370#msg139370 (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=11146.msg139370#msg139370)).

This is by no means the first time Rob has used other accounts to continue some sort of charade.  Clever Rob has figured out a way to create multiple accounts without us being able to easily detect them (and it seems as if we're not able to do anything about this).  He's been doing this for quite some time... not only has he managed to fool us, he's definitely fooled his friends and peers in the Forums. 

The administrators and moderators will always take suicide threats in the Forums very seriously. We did everything possible to help him -- reopened his Boo Radley account, had Peter and Andy on line to offer additional support, and helped ensure that police and EMS were dispatched.  We are not sorry for any of this and will continue to keep his Boo Radley account open, so that he may continue communicating with his Forums support network (it should be mentioned, however, that Forums support is intended to supplement -- not replace -- professional care). 

However, we feel it is our duty to notify everyone that Rob has repeatedly chosen to disregard the basic rules of the Forums -- as recently as 1:40 this morning, in the midst of an apparent psychological break -- to continue this unacceptable activity. 

Tim Horn

Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: ACinKC on April 10, 2007, 09:53:42 am
Boo,

My dear dear man.  You and I dont know each other but in passing on this board.  But I cant tell you how deeply your leaving this world would affect me.  You are a good and decent man at heart and I know this because of the strong feelings I have for you.  I am on the verge of tears as I right this as I am unable to give you more than words at your greatest time of need.  Were you here, I would hold you and let you rage against everything and everyone till you felt the hate and depression drain from you.  We would talk, and because I've come to know you I'm quite sure we would laugh. 

Take a deep breath Boo.  Get some help PLEASE.  And when you are in a better place Boo, come see me.  I feel it would be a mistake not to personally know a man a care for so much online.  My home is open to you, if you need help with travel arrangements I can help with that too.  We can lounge by the pool and talk about how quirky and aloof Benj is, and why we find it so endearing.  And I can tell you, in person, why this world is a better place with you in it.

You've made some mistakes on here.  None of which are unfixable.  Most of us on here have big hearts that are built specifically for compassion and forgiveness.  The internet can be a cold place, but it can also serve notice as to how many of us you affect positively with who you are. 

GODDAMNIT BOO I dont want to say goodbye to someone I havent really met yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok....crying at work..... ill be back.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 10, 2007, 11:10:52 am
Boo, as a friend I want to give you love, but maybe some tough love (and no, no pity, so don't go there).  Don't complicate things by doing what Tim Horn just said and creating more user names.  I'm not sure why you're doing this except maybe for some odd amusement or simply because technically you can... you know, from an IP mutational aspect.  But let's concentrate on Boo and Boo's needs.

Part of me says as one, if not *the*, last person to talk to you directly on the phone before this incident last night, and as you actually discussed the suicide topic with me, I should have realized the emphasis I needed to place on this discussion.  And thunter34 knows that I discussed it with him, but at that time I hadn't decided where to go with it.  I generally believe that when some people are mirred in deep depression they often need some "space"... but then again sometime they need more social interaction.  It's a fine line... and a line so fine it's hard for me to often figure out.  I guess I didn't do a good job on that front.

Anyway, I just know that personally I enjoy you, or I'd not talk to you about silly yet enjoyable things for 2-hour phone conversations, until my ear hurts from using the phone so very much longer than I normally do.  Like thunter, I'm not particularly what I call a Phone Queen.  But you're a fun phone talker so I indulge myself.  What I'm saying is that you have a worth in this world, and I wish you would realize this... even if only for the pets :) 

At any rate, I want to be here for support when/if you decide you need it, but I also think on your end you do need more support than you will get on the internet and I'm sure you realize it.  I know you're not going to want to tell a mental health person what just happened last night, because they will proceed to go down a road you do not wish to go down with treatment.  We discussed this on the phone.  Maybe some other people here can offer productive suggestions for how Boo should proceed in terms of this.

As it is I don't know how much to offer on the board in terms of any more personal details of our phone conversation to put out here without Robert/Boo's approval.  Maybe I've said too much, and perhaps that's why I hung back a bit on the thread last night... though it got to a point where my jumping in would not have been productive in the search for the last name/hotels blah blah blah.  I'm sorry that thunter34 had to do all the work, but that's just how it worked out because he had a last name and email account.  If I'd had the info I'd have been more than willing to do legwork, but at some point too many hands in the pie make a larger mess.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Buckmark on April 10, 2007, 12:35:56 pm
Not only am I glad that Boo is still here (which I posted about in the
"Please Go To Sleep" thread), but I am also thankful that there are so
many kind and compassionate folks here that care enough to take action
and get involved.

Hugs,

Henry
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Life on April 10, 2007, 12:56:29 pm
Boo...  Please,  step back from all of this....

I love you to and I know you have the wherewithall to get through this...

Love,

Eric
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Boo Radley on April 10, 2007, 01:53:40 pm
Around 12:30 last night, Peter reactivated Rob's account so that he could communicate with everyone as Boo Radley, given the seriousness of the situation at hand.  He posted messages as Boo Radley at 12:58, 1:05, and 1:21, sounding exhausted and exasperated.  This, however, didn't stop him from using a new account, "slothgoth" (created 4/6/07), so that he could participate in a totally unrelated Forum thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=11146.msg139370#msg139370 (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=11146.msg139370#msg139370)).

Yeah, that's right, like I told Tim, I logged in using slothgoth so I wouldn't be noticed.  So fucking sorry, Tim Horn, that I posted a comment that proves beyond a doubt I was only fucking around with everyone for attention.   Time for Jonathan to post one of his BULLSHIT CALL messages.

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This is by no means the first time Rob has used other accounts to continue some sort of charade.  Clever Rob has figured out a way to create multiple accounts without us being able to easily detect them (and it seems as if we're not able to do anything about this).  He's been doing this for quite some time... not only has he managed to fool us, he's definitely fooled his friends and peers in the Forums.   

I think I explained before I created several accounts but if you notice the only one I posted messages with was StanDaMan.  Please reread the initial post in this thread.  I haven't fooled any of my friends because they knew it was me and we PMed each other in the hope you stupid fucking bastards wouldn't detect me again as you did Klaatu (and anyone who thinks I was trying to hide behind Klaatu needs to read the messages posted because they SCREAM my name) [Ann, you are excluded from my pissy and hostile comments, please believe me].   

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The administrators and moderators will always take suicide threats in the Forums very seriously. We did everything possible to help him -- reopened his Boo Radley account, had Peter and Andy on line to offer additional support, and helped ensure that police and EMS were dispatched.  We are not sorry for any of this and will continue to keep his Boo Radley account open, so that he may continue communicating with his Forums support network (it should be mentioned, however, that Forums support is intended to supplement -- not replace -- professional care).

Whoop de fucking doo.   Thank you for the clarification - I thought AIDSmeds was my professional psychological care provider all this time.  I love to screw around with my psychiatrist so I thought AM was fair game too.  Only problem is if I tell him I'm suicidal he has to commit me to a psychiatric ward but I've been there, done that, and death is far more preferable to being locked up in the loony bin again.

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However, we feel it is our duty to notify everyone that Rob has repeatedly chosen to disregard the basic rules of the Forums -- as recently as 1:40 this morning, in the midst of an apparent psychological break -- to continue this unacceptable activity.
 

Oh, god, that certainly proves I was just having a bit of fun a your expense, doesn't it?  I'm truly, truly sorry I didn't die last night but Tim talked me out of it, that rat bastard.  It's all his fault.  Surely it is your duty now to chastise Tim for stopping me from doing what I wanted to do.  Bad, Bad Tim!!

Since I didn't come through on my promise to off myself last night I'll make sure to do it soon.  Is sometime within the next week satisfactory or would you prefer I do it now?   If I can be assured of at least 6 hours of peace the triavil should do the job. 

Tim, Benj, Hal, David, Lis, HIVworker, Teresa, Ann, Andy, AC, and everyone else who held out a hand last night, I am sorry I caused you such distress.  I love you all and hope you will forgive me for the horrid things I've done.  I should have done what I did in 1999 -- just take the pills and go to sleep, but this time pray I won't wake up.  I'm going to give it my best shot.  Wish me luck!!   

Tim Horn, Peter Staley, Jonathan Kvetch, please forgive me for disrupting your lives and ruining your night.  It won't happen again.

Please ban Boo Radley because he is not the sort of person you want as a forum member. God only knows what horseshit he will dig up if you don't deal swiftly and decisively now.  r54444You certainly don't want such a pitiable, pitiful creature hanging around spreading gloom and doom.  It would be best if you rescind the TOs on Al and koi and scottttt so everything can return to normal.   Then again, if I get it right this time there will be no need to ban Boo or any of the other 50,000 profiles I created just to harass and intimidate everyone and make AIDSmeds a dangerously unsafe place. 

I've made my bed and now must die in it.  There's no other way out. 

Please excuse my dust.

P.S.  Don't call or email anyone because I can't afford to check in to another hotel.  Just leave me alone.  Thank you!!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: ACinKC on April 10, 2007, 01:58:22 pm
You may wish to give up on you Boo.  But dont expect us to give up on you!  You know us better than that. 
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 10, 2007, 07:25:53 pm
Boo. I don't understand what is going on. What I don't appreciate is that at the sign of any criticism you drop the noose over your head. If a user on this forum is annoying you as much as Jonathan does, then hit the ignore button. Don't drop a noose over your head and use it as some justification that you are not good enough for the world. That's not fair on you and it's not fair on us. I wanted to reach out to you last night because that is what a support forum does. I would like you to continue to be on here. However, I want you to be fair with us too. I don't think you wasted our time. I don't pity you either. I do want you to get an even keel. And you won't do that unless you hit the ignore button and stop winding yourself up.

R
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: bravebuddharich on April 10, 2007, 08:36:38 pm
Is everybody allright now?? I was amazed by the great compassion for another human being in these threads, namaste

a little over a year ago, a guy named Jonathon killed himself - we, his friends, tried so hard to get him to go out of his house, to go to movies, or lunch, or whatever... just get him out of his staying at home and clinging to his addiction to alcohol. He was only 30 years old.

I hope Rob gets the help that he needs, and acknowledges fully that he is worthy of the help
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Boo Radley on April 11, 2007, 09:08:42 pm
Oh, jesus, I don’t want to rehash any of this but I must apologize to everyone again.  I apologize to Tim Horn and Peter Staley for furiously ranting in my response to Tim’s message http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=11152.msg139488#msg139488 (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=11152.msg139488#msg139488).   I am sorry and apologize for “shitting” on them and anyone else who feels my final post was less than exemplary and a slap in the face.   I would erase what I wrote but that would elicit claims I was trying to deny the facts.  I take responsibility although I am greatly ashamed of my words and actions that night.  Thank you, Peter, for allowing me to return.  Despite my apparent lack of appreciation I am indeed very grateful.

When I read Mr. Horn’s post it seemed, and still does after reading it again, to suggest my antics were only a ruse for attention and nothing else.  Tim explains “This, however, didn't stop him from using a new account, "slothgoth" (created 4/6/07), so that he could participate in a totally unrelated Forum thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=11146.msg139370#msg139370).”  to apparently demonstrate my frivolity and calculated manipulation of forum members. 

I logged on as slothgoth after I got to the hotel.  I did not want anyone to know I was online.  Totally irrational but not an attempt to stir up more than I had. (if I had wanted to screw around as much as possible with people wouldn’t I have done more than post one stupid message?).   I don’t remember why I read the thread I posted in.  I’m not sure how time-stamps work but slothgoth’s account was set to west coast time and I believe I posted it at 11:40 PM CDT, not 1:40 AM EDT.  It was my first post after “Goodbye…” was started.  I was talking to thunter34 on the phone and when I saw his message think I responded as a way to let him know I was online.  I really don’t remember but the amount of Jack Daniels in my body at the time certainly clouded my thinking, which was very murky already.

Mr. Horn explains how “He's [i.e., I] been doing this [i.e., logging on with fake accounts]  for quite some time  ... not only has he managed to fool us, he's definitely fooled his friends and peers in the Forums.”  I created my first dummy account around March 10 after I was given a TO on March 6/7.  I was angry about the TO and felt I deserved a warning, which isn’t an excuse by any means.  Part of the reason for creating “curmudgeonly” was to see if I could do it.  To explain more would tell others how to create duplicate accounts so I won’t.  I don’t think the period from 3/6 to 4/10 is accurately described as “quite some time” but it’s irrelevant.  I’m sure Mr. Horn stands by his words completely.

I didn’t expect Mr. Horn to send me a basket of hugs but his post still seems to paint my actions in the worst possible light.  About 6 AM CDT Tuesday morning I  washed down a handful of pills with Jack Daniels and composed the message posted around that time.  At about 6:15 someone knocked on the hotel room door and I freaked, assuming it was the police or EMT.  It was only a copy of USA Today but by then I realized room service would be showing up in a couple of hours and check-out time was noon.   I’d fucked up my plan and was not going to chance being discovered unconscious and wake up in a hospital. 

I checked out of the hotel and went home, circling the block to be sure no police or other officials were present.  My rage at that point was incredible, mostly because I put many good people in an awful situation, wasted money I don’t have on a hotel and, worse, for the 3rd time in my life failed in an attempt to kill myself. 

I lashed out at Mr. Horn and Mr. Staley and Jonathan and nothing I write now changes that.  I am sorry about everything but still nothing is changed.   I cannot undo what I have done and do not expect or deserve forgiveness from anyone.   I do not apologize to Jonathan for anything and accept my pettiness as a serious flaw.  Jonathan’s posts that night and prior make it quite clear what he thinks of me.  He is obviously entitled to his opinion but so am I.  I will take HIVworker’s advice and use the ignore button

I’ve written far too much as usual but succinctness is a gift I’ve never had.  I thank everyone who was there for me, especially thunter34 who kept me occupied long enough that I calmed down for several hours.   I know many of you were doing everything you could to help me and I will never forget.  Right now it's taking every ounce of courage I have to post this and I fully expect to anger some people further.  I won't lie about what I am or how I think.  If you want to comment please do so but I am going to try not publicly posting anything more in relation to this issue. 

I have scheduled an intake appointment at NO/AIDS Task Force next week and will begin seeing a therapist as soon as possible.  I cannot undo the damage and to those who do not forgive me I ask you to put me on ignore.  The mortification I feel is permanent and I will never be able to think of this incident without shame and regret.  I know I should not state this but I wish I had succeeded (and there seems to be a consensus among some my death would have been the preferable way to end the episode, and they are perfectly right) .   I'm not looking for pity or even understanding.  If you don't know what severe depression is like you have no idea what my daily life entails.  I won't bore anyone further.

If my further presence here proves too distasteful for too many people or my willful disregard for AM rules makes me more of a pariah I will do my best to leave, but my desire to be here is what started this mess in the first place.  I know a handful of people are still my friends and if I can continue to interact with them without causing too much disgust in others I will.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 11, 2007, 09:17:59 pm
I have scheduled an intake appointment at NO/AIDS Task Force next week and will begin seeing a therapist as soon as possible.  I cannot undo the damage and to those who do not forgive me I ask you to put me on ignore.  The mortification I feel is permanent and I will never be able to think of this incident without shame and regret.  I know I should not state this but I wish I had succeeded (and there seems to be a consensus among some my death would have been the preferable way to end the episode, and they are perfectly right) .   I'm not looking for pity or even understanding.  If you don't know what severe depression is like you have no idea what my daily life entails.  I won't bore anyone further.

Boo,

I think that the totality of your contributions to these forums over the years cast you in a good light, despite any breaches of the rules you may have committed recently.

Since your account is still operative I suspect that the opportunity to be amongst us is stil open to you.

There are a good many of us who love you dearly and yearn for the sparklingly witty and profoundly insightful Boodles we know to return to our screens.

I hope that this new round of therapy can help to alleviate the dreadful suffering mental illness has brought to your life.

MtD
(Who loves the ornery SOB) :-*
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Teresa on April 11, 2007, 09:22:20 pm
                               (http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9815/hugs37kq0.gif)

Love
Teresa
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Basquo on April 11, 2007, 09:24:31 pm
>THAT<    was not expected!
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Matty the Damned on April 11, 2007, 09:35:46 pm
>THAT<    was not expected!

Expect nothing, dearest Creighton, and everything comes as a surprise. ;)

MtD
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Miss Philicia on April 11, 2007, 09:43:01 pm
I talked to Boo on the phone a couple hours ago, and what he wrote above is pretty much what he expressed to me at certain points.  He's very genuine and I hope folks here can bear that it in mind.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Basquo on April 11, 2007, 09:44:32 pm


Expect nothing, dearest Creighton, and everything comes as a surprise. ;)

MtD

I expect nothing, and I think sometimes I will get it with interest, but after the 80's and early 90's, you can trust me when I say that there is never a dull moment in my life.

Sometimes, everything comes out at sunrise.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: HIVworker on April 11, 2007, 10:44:53 pm
Well, he used the ignore button. Maybe that will help in the future? I hope so..

R
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Tim Horn on April 12, 2007, 12:41:34 am
Boo:

First off, I am not doubting the crisis you were/are in -- or any of the situations contributing to it (I certainly don't claim to know what these are) -- the other night. I meant what I said... we treat suicide threats extremely seriously.  Yours is not the first we've dealt with in the Forums and, I fear, it will not be the last. 

I don't think your post was a "ruse for attention."  Not at all.  I still believe that you issued, in no uncertain terms, a cry for help.  The difference between the two is not lost on me. 

Here's the thing, Boo... we do have very basic rules in the Forums.  The fact is, no matter how distressed a member becomes, we simply must hold that person to the same rules as everyone else to keep this space safe and running as smoothly as possible.  Everyone here comes to the Forums with different histories, periods of intense anger and depression, and diverse ways of dealing with internal and external stress.  As we're dealing with 6,000 members, it's virtually impossible for four moderators -- two of whom don't even spend a lot of time in the Forums (Peter and myself) -- to keep track of everyone's current emotional status to determine the root cause of antagonism, flame baiting, multiple accounts, etc.  In effect, we expect everyone to live by the same rules... and if they can't follow basic guidelines, regardless of how awful things are for them personally, we must go through the motions of warnings, time outs, and bannings. 

The fact is, Boo, we bent the rules for you -- the first time we've ever done so -- to allow you to continue participating in the Forums, using your widely recognized moniker, as you seem to need the Forums in a really bad way right now.  In return, what did you do?  You fired up another user login -- only an hour or so after we released the ban on "Boo Radley" -- to post in another thread.  That really sucked, Boo... and, yes, all of the moderators were friggin' pissed about it.  Do we want your thanks or appreciation?  No... all we want you to do is to follow the basic rules in the Forums -- not creating other accounts being being at the top of the list -- and to treat these rules with respect.

At any rate, I'm really hoping you can put this, and the other frustrations you have with the AIDSmeds.com Forums and select members, behind you so that you can take advantage of what you seem to really want (and need) from the Forums -- the love, support, compassion, and guidance of those who genuinely stand behind you. 

Tim

   
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Boo Radley on April 12, 2007, 02:20:13 am
The fact is, Boo, we bent the rules for you -- the first time we've ever done so -- to allow you to continue participating in the Forums, using your widely recognized moniker, as you seem to need the Forums in a really bad way right now.  In return, what did you do?  You fired up another user login -- only an hour or so after we released the ban on "Boo Radley" -- to post in another thread.  That really sucked, Boo... and, yes, all of the moderators were friggin' pissed about it.  Do we want your thanks or appreciation?  No... all we want you to do is to follow the basic rules in the Forums -- not creating other accounts being being at the top of the list -- and to treat these rules with respect.

Mr. Horn:

I know you and Peter and Ann and Andy bent the rules for me and I do appreciate it more than you'll ever know.   I am not trying to excuse any of the wrongs I committed.   Once I realized I could create multiple accounts the "power" went to my head.  If you have not deleted rhoda_p and cleosophy they're garbage too. 

What I tried to explain, apparently unclearly, is that it was 11:40 PM HERE when I posted as slothgoth and the ban on Boo had not been lifted, or if it had been I didn't know it.    As soon as I posted the message I logged out feeling like a bigger jackanapes than I already felt like.  It was a stupid, drunken blunder of an emotionally distraught idiot.  I don't deny creating the accounts and seriously abusing the rules and have apologized for doing so.

Again, I am not trying to excuse any of my actions but your belief I logged in after the ban was lifted is wrong, period.  After I logged in as Boo I did not and have not used any of the "duplicitous" accounts, as Bailey so eloquently and unintentionally put it (he meant duplicate, without a doubt).  You have every reason to be "friggin pissed" at me but not for that specific reason.   If you want to believe I'm lying I can't do much about it but I did not use any alias again after Boo was back in.  I accept responsibility for everything I did but in this one detail, which upset all of you so much, I am innocent.  I admitted everything else and have no reason to belabor this point except you believe I did something I am sure I did not do.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Boo Radley on April 12, 2007, 08:38:50 am
Although I am in disbelief Ann has shown me the time-stamps of the posts by slothgoth and Boo are in the order Tim Horn described them and not the one I claim to be correct.  Ann kindly tried to assure me the booze and drugs and chaos of that night screwed up my memory but I think I'm in worse trouble than I realized.  Fantasy and reality were never as close as they apparently are now.   I wish I'd died at birth.

I apologize once again.
Title: Re: Another goodbye on an otherwise dull Monday
Post by: Ann on April 12, 2007, 10:46:34 am
Boo,

In thinking more about this, I suddenly realised that your confusion probably stemmed from the time-stamps you saw at the time of posting, which would have been different from one account to the other. So no, you're not going crazy and no, you're not worse off than you thought.

I'd like to ask everyone to try and put this behind us so we can all move forward. To help make this possible, I'm going to lock this thread and I (and the other moderators) thank you all for your cooperation in letting the matter rest.

Ann