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Off Topic Forums => Off Topic Forum => Topic started by: JeffreyM on August 09, 2007, 02:16:22 pm
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I am a 43 year old gay Man. When people ask me when I came out, I tell them I have never been in. I'm not flaming, I'm not a super stud, I'm just me.
What the hell is all this crap going on with all these guys who are fucking men, sucking men, being sucked by men& getting fucked by men saying they are STRAIGHT ???
I see it on a lot of message boards, hook up sites and even met a couple in person?
One post said "str8 dude looking to fuck & be fucked by other str8 dudes, str8 only!" WTF????????????????
Can anybody chime in here on what the fuck is going on? ???
IMO opinion if a dude is taking or giving his cock to another dude in any way, the dude is not straight!
Maybe I'll have to become straight to get some.
TY JeffreyM
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I know what your sayin' here. I had a weird experience @ one of the city parks here a few weeks ago. iwas out walking my dogs around the lake & sat down to watch the sun set. This guy came up and started talking to me. I noticed he had a wedding band on his finger. He started asking me what I was into & if i was interested in fuckin' him. I asked if he was married & he said yes. I excused myself, walked back to the car . he followed me all over town for about 45 minutes.
Dan
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There is a dubious allure in "str8" guys, who in my generation were called trade. Remember the old saying "yesterday's trade is tomorrow's competition"?
Then there's that odious, self-loathing phrase "straight acting & appearing", by which gay men try to avoid being labeled effeminate. Give 'em a couple of highballs and their wrists suddenly go flapping, just like the paleoclones of yore.
Seriously, I'll give these guys the benefit of the doubt and say that they're bisexual. Human sexuality is a patchwork of color, not all black and white.
Brent
(Who went through a trade phase in the 90s)
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hehe i like messing around with "str8" guys....
well obviously they arent straight but i like catching the "curious" guys attention, afterwards you feel such a sense of satisfaction/accomplishment especially if i met them at a str8 club :-D
i think when they are online saying "straight" guys i think most of them are in the closet living a straight life(in public eye) even though they are gay or bi....so they want to meet other straight guys with girlfriends so they can go "fishing" or "camping" and fuck around brokeback mountain style...
-josh
(who doesnt care if they are "str8" so long as im getting some :-D)
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IMHO all of them were not sincere with themselves in a first place.................and it is the hardest thing to do..........to stand in front of a mirror and say , admit to your self that you love to be with another male figure ...............at that point the outerworld doesn`t seem to be relevant at all.............but it is my ignorant opinion.....
Al
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I think there might also be an HIV aspect to this. As in "str8 = less likely to be positive".
Kinda like the ever-popular mental gymnastics for the gay boy set...
"Safe Seeking Safe Only" translates to "I don't usually bareback like we just did."
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I think I stopped saying I was straight when I was 12.
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Oh, this one's too easy. They're straight from the Land of Make Believe, or the Land of Denial, or something like that :D
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I think I stopped saying I was straight when I was 12.
I was 16.
Brent
(Who is gay as can be)
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hehe i like messing around with "str8" guys....
I like dating "str8" guys, too. Where I live, we have a very active student/alternative/leftist/punk scene, and the blokes in their late 20ies, early 30ies are all extremely curious as to what's on the other side of the door, especially when it comes to "discussing" (=exploring) sexuality. I'm one of the few open gays in this scene which comes very handy because they turn to me when they want to explore their limits. They're not labelling themselves as gay or bisexual or heterosexual, I think they would consider themselves as "kinda open-minded metrosexuals". Anyways, I usually play the "str8" game with them because that's what they like and I don't care as long as I have my fun. So, I give them the impression that they seduce me when in fact, the opposite is true. Of course, we all know this, so it's all fun and games.
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16? It took you that long to figure it out? I was 6 & KNEW what I was attracted to. Men! I remember looking out the bedroom window & my aunts house while my uncle mowed the lawn with his shirt off. i was fascinated with that hairy chest...
Dan
(who can't even THINK STRAIGHT) LOL
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I was 16.
Brent
(Who is gay as can be)
I exaggerated slightly. But it was definitely by 14 when I was wacking off daily to mental images of Kevin Smallwood (and it wasn't small either!)
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who is kevin smallwood? i think i should know this already. the name is familiar.
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16? It took you that long to figure it out? I was 6 & KNEW what I was attracted to. Men! I remember looking out the bedroom window & my aunts house while my uncle mowed the lawn with his shirt off. i was fascinated with that hairy chest...
Dan
(who can't even THINK STRAIGHT) LOL
Speaking for myself I was referring to more of a self-acceptance of the label "gay," not the age when I first started checking out boys. I'm not sure I can remember that far back, but I do recall looking in elementary school at the men's underwear section in my mother's Sears catalogue and not the women.
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I think it is a combination of all of the above. So many gay men fantasize about being with str8 guys. I wonder how many completely gay men play straight to capitalize on those "str8 acting" gays looking for a hookup to match their fantasy of being with a straight guy.
When it comes to sex I don't care what they call themselves as long as I am getting what I want. But when it comes to a relationship, leave the straight, married, curious, bisexual, drunk, questioning guys at home and give me a 100% GAY man!
Woods
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Speaking for myself I was referring to more of a self-acceptance of the label "gay," not the age when I first started checking out boys. I'm not sure I can remember that far back, but I do recall looking in elementary school at the men's underwear section in my mother's Sears catalogue and not the women.
Please. I had the hots for Jonny Quest.
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who is kevin smallwood? i think i should know this already. the name is familiar.
Kevin Smallwood's locker was on the other side of Suzy's in middle school. Mine was next to Suzy. As this was the late 70's, Kevin ALWAYS wore skin tight jeans with his large gonads pushed down the left inner leg so I could see them plain as day in between classes. Well, on those rare days when his truancy problem was not interfering. I think he was about 2 years older than the rest of us too but my he was well hung. Total 120% redneck to boot. There were rumors that he had sex with the chorus teacher in 8th grade.
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HAWT.
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Kevin was super HAWT! So utterly formative in my gayness.
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str8 to the nearest dick that is...
I didn't came out until I was 20....I was living in the land of denial (please forgive me, but I was raised Catholic and I am an only child...oh, I know guilt!!!! ; , but I knew I was gay when I saw the movie Endless Love for the first time...The scene when Brooke Shields and having sex in the living room...well, I was NOT looking at Brooke...that is when I knew....then I ran to church and asked for forgiveness.
Rich
(who stopped being a Catholic a long time ago)
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omg... Brooke Shields means ONE thing at that age>>> BLUE LAGOON WITH CHRISTOPHER ATKINS
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I've always thought that 'str8' in that context meant that they were married or just very closeted and didn't want to be 'seen' with any really flaming, queeny types. On the other hand, a very butch man, whether str8 or gay, can be so hot!
David
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omg... Brooke Shields means ONE thing at that age>>> BLUE LAGOON WITH CHRISTOPHER ATKINS
DAMN! Philly beat me to it!
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always bitch... always
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I was playing "How long can I leave my tongue in your mouth" with a boy when we were 8.
Milker.
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My favorite game when I was a growing boy was I'll show you mine, if you show me yours... :o
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Oh, I got naked so much with neighborhood boys that none of them would ever do repeat sleep overs. I'm afraid that by 6th grade my randy ways were widely discussed at school to my detriment.
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Randy Ways would be a great porn name!
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Oh, I got naked so much with neighborhood boys that none of them would ever do repeat sleep overs. I'm afraid that by 6th grade my randy ways were widely discussed at school to my detriment.
*sigh* I can see now that I had lots- LOTS- of opportunities for such adventures when I was younger, but was too meek to pursue them. Which is a 180 from the me ever since then. That shyness really went the way of the Dodo.
(In my best Paul Simon voice) "When I think back on all the cock I missed in high school.."
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how about when some one would say "blow me" or "suck my"? My favorite comeback was always,"ok" or "i would love to"
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And a headline of this thread is................ ;D LOL
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how about when some one would say "blow me" or "suck my"? My favorite comeback was always,"ok" or "i would love to"
Like these days...if I hear someone call me a faggot or a cocksucker, I'll sometimes affect a shy blush and say how flattered I am that they noticed.
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I get a hard on with spelling of Di..
Dan
(who spent his summers @ Camp Morningwood)
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wow.
have gun, will travel.
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I always get a big laugh out of this topic as well. Especially when some guy who is finally coming to terms with his homosexuality pvts me on gay.com, and tells me he is not gay yet, just curious. Here is what I tell them.
If you have any sexual attraction whatsoever to someone of the same gender, you are a homosexual. Period.
It does not matter if you just like looking, or only interested in certain activites, or definitely not interested in certain activities. You are a homosexual. Pitcher, Catcher, Pinch Hitter, Short Stop, Outfielder, or Spectator, a homosexual is someone attracted to their own gender. Period!
Someone who has never had a sexual encounter is a Virgin. Period. You can be a complete Virgin, or you can be a Virgin to gay sex. A Virgin is a Virgin. Period!
Needless to say, they hate being called a Virgin, and the self-defensiveness begins.
Anyway, I have found many of my co-workers, "forgetting" I am gay. LOL And every year we get a new set of nursing students, at which some point one of the young lasses will inquire about me, and I have to hope someone is working that day who knows that I am a pure masculine gay. Not str8 looking, not str8 acting. I am a GAY MAN, and damn Proud about it. :-*
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I always liked playing doctor with the neighbor boys. I was fairly versatile for my age (6 years or so) - I could play the doctor as well as the patient! ;D
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I always liked playing doctor with the neighbor boys. I was fairly versatile for my age (6 years or so) - I could play the doctor as well as the patient! ;D
I've said before and will say again: Some kids played doctor.
I played specialist.
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Hi Guys~
Jeffrey is out shopping right now. He's gonna love reading this thread when he returns!
Please be sure to welcome him, and read his personal post in the Long-Term Survivors thread. It took me awhile to convince him to get online here. He didn't know what he was missing!
Its just me, his lil sis, helping him get acclimated here! ;)
MUAH! Jeffrey, from your G-L-A-M-O-R-O-U-S girl! :-*
~Cindy
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I've said before and will say again: Some kids played doctor.
I played specialist.
I see... Timberly, the proctologist.
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it must be the heat.
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I used to play doctor with my neighbor from New Zeland, we were about 5....i still remeber his name..Robert...
Rich
(who had his first sexual experiece with a boy from Down Under...)
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I've always thought that 'str8' in that context meant that they were married or just very closeted and didn't want to be 'seen' with any really flaming, queeny types. On the other hand, a very butch man, whether str8 or gay, can be so hot!
David
I appreciate masculinity as long as it's not forced or otherwise artificial. Working at the Ramrod, I see a lot of guys working it all a bit too much.
I've had a series of hook-ups with a Cuban guy lately, who showed me pictures of his daughter and granddaughter the night we met. He has this wonderful, off-handed casual masculinity that is delightfully appealing. He claims to have not bottomed for several years prior to our having met, but is fearless in withstanding my aggressive assaults (playful but pretty rough) and takes everything like a trooper.
Speaking of adolescent crushes, I had a serious thing for this guy named Billy Jackson. He wasn't much taller than me, had a bewitching ass which (in the early 70s) was always bouncing in tight jeans. We were in the same gym class from 7th through 9th grade and I got to see how me matured into a real slice of manboy pie. He was on the gymnastics team, baseball team and football team and was one muscular little devil. He was also very sweet and kind but a little dim. When he blew his mind out with drugs in the summer between 10th and 11th grade, his appeal didn't diminish one bit, although his IQ went from lowish to borderline functional.
Haven't thought of him in forever...
Brent
(Who never touched a classmate, only men in the city)
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He claims to have not bottomed for several years prior to our having met
Child please... surely you should know that big fib by now, certainly from a Cuban.
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certainly from a Cuban.
what about Cubans? ::)
Rich
(who is 1/2 Cuban)
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I see... Timberly, the proctologist.
You got it. Care for a check up?
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it must be the heat.
yeah, that's it. global warming rears its ugly head yet again.
what's our excuse the rest of the year?
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even in this heat, I cant imagine why anyone would want to be a top.
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what about Cubans? ::)
Rich
(who is 1/2 Cuban)
Don't make me go there...
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Child please... surely you should know that big fib by now, certainly from a Cuban.
Of course it's a fib, but the illusion is flawless.
what about Cubans? ::)
Rich
(who is 1/2 Cuban)
Then you should know, darling.
yeah, that's it. global warming rears its ugly head yet again.
what's our excuse the rest of the year?
I don't need excuses, Timberly, I'm an old-skool chain-smoking, free-balling insatiable slut. But summer does seem to bring out the voracious whore in me.
even in this heat, I cant imagine why anyone would want to be a top.
Because, Jakie, ass is fabulous.
Brent
(Who hoists his freak flag without provocation)
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I sometimes I do wish it was clear cut for me but it's not always that straight forward unfortunately. It's really hard to describe i'm sure someone else on here could do a better job. I think my 'straight' housemate who I found out last week has kissed a few girls :) put it best when she said she's just attracted to certain types of people male or female, why try pigeonhole anyone though? Thats the way it is for me I think, it can be confusing at times but mostly it's pretty good! I do find myself distracted A LOT though haha.
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You got it. Care for a check up?
Dr Hunter, I would love to make an appointment. Do you make house calls??
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I have been known to make housecalls, yes.
Although lately I have been considering a move to So Fla to open up a joint practice with Bucko.
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I have been known to make housecalls, yes.
Although lately I have been considering a move to So Fla to open up a joint practice with Bucko.
Too bad Arkansas is in the opposite direction from where you are going then. :'(
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I had a crush on Kristi McNichol, does that say anything???
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I may have to go on call for SF.
There seems to be a need.
-Tim
(Who gives til it hurts)
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Just got to chip in here with the flip side which probably doesn't happen very often but I can speak from my experience.
Back in the early 1990s I had a 3 year relationship with a gay guy I met in a positive youth group. I would often accompany him to corporate events when he felt the need to be seen as 'straight'. We also had an amazing sex life, he is the only man I ever became pregnant by! But he is and always will be more attracted to men and it was men that he wanted to have a long term commitment with.
We lost touch for a decade but reconnected last year and although he has been in a committed relationship with his boyfriend for the past 5 years, he spent the night with me and we ended having sex together again (but apparently its not cheating on the boyfriend because I'm not a guy!).
When there's that chemistry between two people then I don't think being 'gay' or 'straight' comes into it.
Just my two cents,
Emma
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You got it. Care for a check up?
Well yes, by all means! ;)
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I have been known to make housecalls, yes.
Although lately I have been considering a move to So Fla to open up a joint practice with Bucko.
What an awe-inspiring team we'd make, darling :-*
Just got to chip in here with the flip side which probably doesn't happen very often but I can speak from my experience.
Back in the early 1990s I had a 3 year relationship with a gay guy I met in a positive youth group. I would often accompany him to corporate events when he felt the need to be seen as 'straight'. We also had an amazing sex life, he is the only man I ever became pregnant by! But he is and always will be more attracted to men and it was men that he wanted to have a long term commitment with.
We lost touch for a decade but reconnected last year and although he has been in a committed relationship with his boyfriend for the past 5 years, he spent the night with me and we ended having sex together again (but apparently its not cheating on the boyfriend because I'm not a guy!).
When there's that chemistry between two people then I don't think being 'gay' or 'straight' comes into it.
Just my two cents,
Emma
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That's what I've always suspected. If it weren't for society's condemnations, Bi-chic would be just as hot for guys as it is for girls.
Brent
(Who'll cop to being 10% straight)
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Well you guys, Maybe I'll just have to play it straight to get some action! But what do I do with my Dreamgirls paraphernalia? I guess I shouldn't be hung up on labels and stuff, bi, gay straight, on the "down low".
Hopefully "STRAIGHT" to bed for me!
I'm 2 1/2 years single from a LTR and ready to hump my furniture! Oh forgot, already did that ;D
WOW gemini20!
woodshere: How funny about Kristie M ! When I first saw KD lang on tv in the 80's, I thought she was a cute dude!
ps Cindy, if I were even 1% straight, I would have been on a plane by now! Maybe we can get a straight guy to hold you down, while I do your hair.
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Big, fat wet & sloppy welcome kisses for Jeffrey!
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Big, fat wet & sloppy welcome kisses for Jeffrey!
...and for initiating such a good thread so early in his career. Welcome, Jeffie-
Brent
(Who loves welcomes but hates good-byes)
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Big, fat wet & sloppy welcome kisses for Jeffrey!
Thunter, I'm soaking! Thanks for the Welcome!
Bucko, Thanks
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I'm somewhat wet myself this evening.
Go figure.
"Finally- moisture!"
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Thunter, I'm soaking! Thanks for the Welcome!
Bucko, Thanks
Was that a reference to Madge the Manicurist?
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I personally think they're in denial and just can't face the truth of being either gay or bi.
Here's another one for you. I know a drag queen - who considers 'herself' a woman - who has 'straight' men call her when their girlfriends are out of town because they want 'her' to fuck them. She has tits, but she still has everything down below. I'm guessing they can reconcile that with being 'straight' because she has tits.
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Cindy, if I were even 1% straight, I would have been on a plane by now! Maybe we can get a straight guy to hold you down, while I do your hair.
Jeffrey~
I would send for you first class, baby! MUAH!
Timtation~
Can Jeffrey and I get a 2-for1 deal? (Shhhh, don't tell Queen, cause she has dibs on you!)
LMAO at Philly's post!
~Cindy
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Was that a reference to Madge the Manicurist?
(http://adweek.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/madge_1.jpg)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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"Finally- moisture!"
I peed
Milker.
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LOL you guys are really cracking me up! ;D
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I personally think they're in denial and just can't face the truth of being either gay or bi.
Here's another one for you. I know a drag queen - who considers 'herself' a woman - who has 'straight' men call her when their girlfriends are out of town because they want 'her' to fuck them. She has tits, but she still has everything down below. I'm guessing they can reconcile that with being 'straight' because she has tits.
Does 'she' work at Tower Records in Downtown Memphis? If so, I know her.
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I sometimes I do wish it was clear cut for me but it's not always that straight forward unfortunately. It's really hard to describe i'm sure someone else on here could do a better job. I think my 'straight' housemate who I found out last week has kissed a few girls :) put it best when she said she's just attracted to certain types of people male or female, why try pigeonhole anyone though? Thats the way it is for me I think, it can be confusing at times but mostly it's pretty good! I do find myself distracted A LOT though haha.
I liked what Chris wrote here, especially the part about not pigeon-holing folk.
If it weren't for society's condemnations, Bi-chic would be just as hot for guys as it is for girls.
Brent
(Who'll cop to being 10% straight)
And Brent, you're saving that 10% just for me, aren't you baby? ;) :-*
Miss Melia - aka Bucko's honeybee
(who will admit to having numerous crushes here ::))
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Does 'she' work at Tower Records in Downtown Memphis? If so, I know her.
"She" doesn't anymore, Tower Records in downtown Memphis is closed now.
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"She" doesn't anymore, Tower Records in downtown Memphis is closed now.
Dang it! I liked that store, not to mention the staff.
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I'm straight (http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/indifferent/indifferent0004.gif)
I think someone's pants are on fire! :P :D