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Main Forums => Living With HIV => Topic started by: Goon2aGoblin on November 30, 2012, 09:19:53 am
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Warning, this might gross some of you out! Lol.
So I've been seeing someone for about 6 months now, and sometimes our sex is smooth and clean. But other times there is a mess when he pulls out. I usually need to go two or three times a day, and when there's a mess it's probably because I didn't need to go at that point. I'm on Atripla, so I don't know if that's why my bowel movement schedule is weird, but my bowel movements ARE healthy thanks in part to my good diet and exercise.
But when I'm cleaning myself in the shower beforehand and I feel it in there, I might decide it's probably better just to NOT have sex. When he doesn't get his sexytimes, he can get irritable. But I don't want to try and force anything out, because then I'll get hemorrhoids which will only make it worse. I want to be intimate with him but my body's unusual patterns make it very hit-or-miss. These messes have NEVER happened with previous partners, so I think it's just the shape and/or length of his erection (he is pretty girthy).
Should I invest in a douche? It won't affect my treatment, right? Also, how do I use it? Is tap water enough as long as I clean it every time? Oh, the life of a bottom man... Sure can be a pain in the ass (I love puns).
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Douching - aka having an enema - will not affect your treatment.
You can buy over-the-counter disposable enema kits (everything you need is included) and I would recommend going this route first so you can read the instructions and learn how to do it properly. I'm quite sure you can also find plenty of information on the internet on how to properly administer an enema safely. Google enema rather than douche. Douching is more usually applied to rinsing out the vagina.
Good luck - and don't feel like pubic enema number one* when buying your first kit. Lots of people use them and nobody will take any notice of you buying one.
*Well, you did say you like puns! ;D
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Hi goon
unfortunately this happens from time to time even when you think you are good to go. If its your partner, then talking about it helps, im sure he can get past it
yes to the enema. It wont hurt your treatment plus it will give you some peace of mind
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Just the other week I finished topping someone and when I pulled out and he exploded everywhere! He was so embarrassed and I just laughed my ass off and told him no worries! It is part the game I suppose. I don't think too much of it.
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It can be embarrassing, butt it goes with the territory. I've always thought guys who get all bent out of shape getting some poo on them are douche bags..lol. Some act all surprised shit would be some place where shit comes out.
Of course, any good bottom should try to make sure they're good to go, but ya never know. When I've bottomed, there were times when I thought it would be messy and it was clean. There were times when I thought I was good and it was messy. Obviously, in this case, the virus and/or meds is probably to blame.
An enema prior to sex would be good, if you know sex is going to happen. My bottoming days are basically behind me. So many puns. My problem is not the brown type, but blood. As you mentioned, you want to avoid hemorrhoids or a fissure.
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I might be an outlier here, but I've never had an accident during/after sex myself. I confess to a bit of paranoia, and there's a story I could tell you that would horrify you - and me, all over again. Let's just say there's a nice Chinese place in midtown I can't ever go back to.
I used to be a little, um, anal about it - locking myself in the bathroom with a Fleet enema half an hour before the act (foreplay!) but now I just make sure I eat plenty of fiber in my diet and pay attention to my body.
Some of the meds can cause sudden and explosive pooping, but taking the time to really get to know the signals your body is sending you will really help to cut down these moments, if not cut them out completely.
With Pozzies, it's difficult because the virus itself spends much of it's time in the gut, and can cause some awful stuff there. Many of the meds used to treat the virus also spend a lot of energy there, and can cause the common side effect of diarrhea. If you just started on meds, then I HIGHLY recommend waiting a few weeks before resuming regular anal stuff. Sometimes the diarrhea comes with roughly seven second's warning, and that's not always time enough to disengage.
One thing you might do is find a suitable dildo and practice by yourself, get to know your signals and the tipping point. Couldn't hurt, unless you went in dry.
Diet and regular exercise do wonders for regulating the gut, as well as fiber and probiotics. Of course, some people have more serious issues than others, and should consult with their doctors regarding other options.
It's no different than getting to Carnegie Hall. Practice, practice. practice.
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... if you play in the mud you might get dirty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wppLTupHKw
and then there's this (http://emptyclosets.com/home/pages/resources/health/getting-clean-for-anal-sex.php)
I would also have a discussion with a doctor about the use of enemas, proper procedure and how many/often is considered safe, etc. It surely can't be healthy for your digestive tract to have an enema on a daily basis.
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Poop is gonna happen. Talk to your partner, Is it freaking him out? Maybe not. When I've topped and gotten a little poopy on my peepee I jsut go to the bathroom and wash it off. No biggie. It neither turned me off nor disgusted me. I've had it happen when Ive bottomed also and my partner didn't run from the room screaming. Although they've run out screaming for different reasons. :D
Enemas and such are good too, if you need them. But Communication, communication, communication, If you are feeling like maybe you need to go but nothing will come out, but you want to have sex then talk to your partner and say something like "hmmm, I hope I dont dirty you" or make it funny and say " I hope you dont hit oil"... you get the point.
Happy bottoming!
-W
Ps- Fiber.
PSS- I had a buddy who could give you a "dip cone" on command, he was a bottom and if you lied to him about your dick size he would give you a little Suzy Q on top of your penis when you pulled it out. lol.
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I am a power bottom who douches and cleans out regularly. You are still, on occasion, going to have shit.
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When I've topped
rrrrrrrright
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I was fucking a guy once and it was gritty to the point where I had to stop . He told me it was his mommas black berry cobbler . It was a long time ago but for some reason I never forgot it .
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I was fucking a guy once and it was gritty to the point where I had to stop . He told me it was his mommas black berry cobbler . It was a long time ago but for some reason I never forgot it .
You should right a book..............................
M
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I was fucking a guy once and it was gritty to the point where I had to stop . He told me it was his mommas black berry cobbler . It was a long time ago but for some reason I never forgot it .
LMAO. This is just too much.
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Mr. Tillman: "Excuse me young gentlemen, I am sorry to interrupt but can you tell me if this is the discussion group about back door repairs and maintenance?"
;D ;D
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I am a power bottom who douches and cleans out regularly. You are still, on occasion, going to have shit.
Exactly. Now if you are regularly unloading a half cup of yesterday's lunch on the bed/sheets/guy's junk/shirt then there might be a problem.
I recently read (no citation) that the part of the brain that controls arousal also diminishes our innate sense of disgust. Which, when you think of it, is a pretty damned good idea.
I honestly think that those of us (and I've certainly been guilty) with unrealistic dreams of clean, pure sex will always be disillusioned. You can certainly do what you can to contain and control your bowels, even if it means not eating several hours before intercourse, using an enema (not every day, as philly said) and keeping a towel handy for after. But sex, if done correctly, has to run at least a little of that risk.
Otherwise it's a sterile medical procedure. Not that there's anything wrong with that, if that's your thing.
Also, I am no longer making nor eating blackberry cobbler.
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No more blackberry cobbler? What about mushrooms? There once was a guy who had a mushroom come out. I will protect his identity.
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No more blackberry cobbler? What about mushrooms? There once was a guy who had a mushroom come out. I will protect his identity.
Theo, you always know so many Six Degrees of Separation on here. What's up with that?
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and keeping a towel handy for after.
We keep wet-wipes handy in the bedroom. :)
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haha...that guy in the video is SOOOO uncomfortale talking about anal. You can tell noone has ever gone near his rectum before. i thought he was going to have a seizure at one point.
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Some people in this thread are laying blame on HAART. That's hardly a given.
If the OP doesn't have poopie problems then his challenge has nothing to do with HIV or HAART.
(I don't think my gastro track took much of a hit from the HIV nor from HAART buts thats my individual experience.)
The good thing about store bought disposable enemas is that in the US at least they are a buck, are sterile, and not so much liquid. So they just wash out the rectum and usually you are good to go. I don't think these cause hemmorhoids nor mess much with intestinal flora but I'm not a doctor...
Take a good pounding you'll open up other "doors" and a Fleet might not be enough. Also, yeah, dick length. Xl definitely, sometimes L, will open my second door even without a pounding...
They don't have those disposable cheap fabulous Fleets here in switzerland. We are stuck with enema bulbs, or nozzles to attach to the shower. So, enemas become an more exacting art.... Is it equipment clean? How deep to clean??, etc etc. Supposedly its not a good idea to be doing deep enemas, washing out the sigmoid colon, or higher. At least not on any sort of regular basis.
Power Bottoms figure out what works and doesn't, through experience. Just like everything.
I lived with a bottom fisting slave in my first apartment in NYC. His rich rather sinister boyfriend lived on the Upper East Side (of course) and would chain him on Friday after work, and release him on Sunday afternoon. My aptmate would start monitoring his diet sometimes on Wed. Thursday night was a ritual. It seemed so complicated and byzantine. (And exciting and mysterious because at the time I didn't know much about butt sex.)
Here's Varla Jean Merman's fun Fleet plug.. er. so to speak. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJonKR7fu5M
Another solution is top HIM when you aren't empty. When your lover looks like hes about to get irritable >:( >:( >:( cause he can't do you, do him, and I bet he calms down :o :o :o ;)
And of course, do it standing or rolling around on tile floors. Tile floors and a open door's frame to hold onto, thats the way to go to loose your inhibitions.
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All that aside, the easiest solution is..... f*ck towels. Get a stack of dark colored towels. Black, shit brown, navy blue, forest green.. Keep in a nightstand by the bed.
I don't mind washing sheets sullied by a hot snog, (count your blessings when you have an active regular sex life!!!!) But usually a towel will spare the sheets. You don't want to be reaching for dainty Kleenex tissues or baby scented wet wipes DURING a hot bonk, cause your mind is on more entertaining things. They're to clean up and dispose of explosive situations. But for the Rick Santorum sprays during the unChristian act, a towel on your bed (sofa, white bear rug...) is your friend.
You all know its a pain to remove skid marks. (Or, you have an darling bf who does your laundry!!! God bless him.)
There was that other thread about long term couples sex lives petering out. I remember my first year or two with my last, I'd have a pile of these cum rags and f*ck towels to do once a week. Enough for their own cycle, needless to say, it was on the "boil" cycle. Those were the days....
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or they can read your posts and be bored shitless
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or they can read your posts and be bored shitless
Winner ^
lmao.
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or they can read your posts and be bored shitless
^^
Because it simply can't be repeated enough
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Theo, you always know so many Six Degrees of Separation on here. What's up with that?
There really is six degrees of separation here in Louisville. However, the mushroom thing was much closer to home.
Modified: About the video-- I disagree with him that the anus doesn't self-lubricate. It does sometimes.
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don't mean to hijack the thread but this seems to be related.
watching mnsbc now and under the "top stories" that scroll at the bottom of the screen is this:
"fist same-sex nuptials held at west point's cadet chapel"
(spelled exactly as seen on tv) ;D
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I have a shower enema ritual which is mostly foolproof. It's an enema tube that connect to the shower hose when you unscrew the shower head. I had a few occasions that after this whole ordeal I was not able to get fully clean so I did not go out that night. If I am going out at 7pm I start around 4pm. I also don't eat after around 12:30 after noon or so. I use the shower hose attachment to clean out. Yes it goes down the drain and it does not smell afterwards. I do it at 4pm and between every 45 minutes to an hour until I go out. Sometimes you think you are clean after the first or second time, but usually you aren't.
You also need to stay hydrated, you are removing water from your intestinal tract. It's also a good idea to eat a banana before you go out to replenish your potassium lever. Once you are fully clean you can have a large meal after 7 and still be good, or if you go out for a marathon sex session you will be clean all night.
My worse experience was with a friend that I used to fool around with, I was on atibiotics for a non sexual infection. I cleaned out but it still looked like a crime scene afterwards. He said it was fine, but we stopped having sex for a few months after that.
I'm also gonna start taking some Metamucil to be more regular. I had some that was expired that I took a few times, but I will buy some new ones. I also started using a glass butt plug in between enema sessions so any extra water doesn't leak out and to looses up.
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We've pretty much ended the hitting oil syndrome (and I'm on Atripla) this way:
1) Overall, cut way down on Red Meat.
2) ALWAYS have leafy greens - and lots of them - every night.
3) EAT YOGHURT every night. Between cutting down on meet, adding greens, and adding yoghurt, the digestive system works MUCH better.
4) Invest in cases of cheap (.75 each) Fleet enemas from a national drugstore chain, and use them.
5) Get a shower attachment with a strong jet or douche and clean out.
This has enabled this 52 year old guy and his partner to engage in relatively poop-free anal fucking for two years.
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Fleet type enemas are reusable, just refill them with water if you need a 2nd or 10th cleaning. ;D
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don't mean to hijack the thread but this seems to be related.
watching mnsbc now and under the "top stories" that scroll at the bottom of the screen is this:
"fist same-sex nuptials held at west point's cadet chapel"
(spelled exactly as seen on tv) ;D
MSNBC has a habit of misspelling. I think whoever does their graphics lets their thoughts slip into what they type. Fisting may have been on his/her mind, with your example. In the pic below, I think the person was hungry.
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/tedunk/facebook_-1738618296jpg.jpg)
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I have to admit that I am utterly fascinated by this thread. I am learning a LOT.
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I have to admit that I am utterly fascinated by this thread. I am learning a LOT.
Like which members are the biggest loons or the closest to the cleanliness of heaven?
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using a glass butt plug in between enema sessions so any extra water doesn't leak out and to looses up.
This is great.
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I was just propositioned twice about an hour ago on the corner of Locust and 13th. I had to pass them by as I'd just taken a crap.
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I was just propositioned twice about an hour ago on the corner of Locust and 13th. I had to pass them by as I'd just taken a crap.
That's what you get for not following the uhmazing advice in this column.
You should've let them give you a nice rim job. It would have been a delightful surprise.
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Fleet type enemas are reusable, just refill them with water if you need a 2nd or 10th cleaning. ;D
Fleet's are wonderful. You can refill them with water and put them in your backpack to take to the bathhouse...
;)
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Fleet's are wonderful. You can refill them with water and put them in your backpack to take to the bathhouse...
;)
I used to do that, until I mistakenly placed Jungle Juice in the enema after doing too much meth.
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I used to do that, until I mistakenly placed Jungle Juice in the enema after doing too much meth.
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:)
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/livebythemoon/380e6452a3a2b4b21bd7bbd90dc22c49_zpsd922e7c0.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3_afH4H1S8
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Ms. P. Ms. M.
You two must be evil ;)
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Ms. P. Ms. M.
You two must be evil ;)
Oh they aren't evil . They are taking a lemon of a crapped on thread and making scatarade , its a brown lemony drink , shaken , not stirred .
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If I knew at all, understood at all what they meant, you meant, I would agree. But being a nieve, ignorant Maine bear . . . talhough I suspect "pure hearts of gold," I still suspect their words evil!
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If I knew at all, understood at all what they meant, you meant, I would agree. But being a nieve, ignorant Maine bear . . . talhough I suspect "pure hearts of gold," I still suspect their words evil!
Not only hearts of gold, our "messes" leave golden skid marks as well.
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz42/livebythemoon/2eca682b94b01be2506d5426e5901673_zpsc450ce8e.jpg)
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Darlin'
Please forgive me if I have confronted or annoyed you. Except for cuteness and adorableness, I suspect the last thing in the world I should do is mess with you. I bow to your love and humor.
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Does anyone recognize that the op hasn't responded? I swore I wasn't even gonna comment in this thread but I became weak. :o
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But being a nieve, ignorant Maine bear
Nieve sounds like a high class interiors paint color, or maybe the name of a start up company. But maybe I'm confusing it with a Swedish brand of soap.
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Nieve sounds like a high class interiors paint color, or maybe the name of a start up company. But maybe I'm confusing it with a Swedish brand of soap.
Nieve is Spanish for snow... as pure and immaculate as this thread.
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I think this guy had some anal sex, before doing his strip-tease. Or, his sphincter just has a slow shutter speed. This may have been posted in the youtube thread a while back, but not sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGRoLDcwTEU
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I think this guy had some anal sex, before doing his strip-tease. Or, his sphincter just has a slow shutter speed. This may have been posted in the youtube thread a while back, but not sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGRoLDcwTEU
LMAO. But how do you NOT know you left a skiddy that size??
PS- come on people, its 2012, can we NOT wear white underwear anymore?
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PS- come on people, its 2012, can we NOT wear white underwear anymore?
This coming from someone who is sporting a pair of white capris in his avatar after Labor Day LOL
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PS- come on people, its 2012, can we NOT wear white underwear anymore?
Oh queen, please. What do you wear? Christmas themed thongs?
In the meantime here's a twink in white undies just for ya.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_juk6c4v9F8Y/STK7vnyazpI/AAAAAAAAAGE/AbnH7YsdmRw/s1600/006.jpg)
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This thread wouldn't exist if all you sloppy bottoms would quit blaming bad hygiene on your mommas pie and douching with granola .
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This coming from someone who is sporting a pair of white capris in his avatar after Labor Day LOL
If those were actual capri pants with a pair of navy espadrilles I'd give her major style points for pulling it off effectively. Very Hamptons! Maybe with a lilac cable-knit cotton sweater but worn tied around the shoulder, not worn, and with a pair of Person sunglasses perched up on the head because the sun is setting while she nurses a Negroni.
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Oh queen, please. What do you wear? Christmas themed thongs?
In the meantime here's a twink in white undies just for ya.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_juk6c4v9F8Y/STK7vnyazpI/AAAAAAAAAGE/AbnH7YsdmRw/s1600/006.jpg)
wtf is that on his belly, warts?, I kept trying to wipe off my screen thinking it was smudges. Seriously can you please post a twink without defects? sheesh.
and to the rest of you I have this...Bitches puhleaze! Those are not Capri pants, they are Banana Repub Khakis
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wtf is that on his belly, warts?, I kept trying to wipe off my screen thinking it was smudges. Seriously can you please post a twink without defects? sheesh.
At first I thought it was a tattoo, but I think it's micro dermal piercings.
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A gift idea for the person who has everything....... Could be all the rage at AMG in Chicago -- I hear it is even "twink proof" (hint, hint, Wumpy....)
http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Contents-Travel-Passport-Wallet/dp/B006C8TPNM/ref=pd_sbs_op_41 (http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Contents-Travel-Passport-Wallet/dp/B006C8TPNM/ref=pd_sbs_op_41)
Mike
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He's got his soi-disant fierce piercings. (Saw some on a young post office worker's arm the other day. She was pretty but pure vanilla, like this twink.)
reminds of the old electro tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxVU4wOha8k
Andrea Doria - Bucci Bag
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Regarding the original topic:
Best immediate laxative there is is cocaine. Do a nice line of coke, wait a few, then take well deserved seat on your porcelain throne.
Otherwise, get a dildo that's at least nine inches and use it before sex to be sure yesterday's dinner has cleared the shoot before doing the real nasty.
Superior results when both techniques are used together, and don't forget to hose down the poop shoot after it's all out
.... yeah I was once a power bottom... in my time in NYC I'll aways remember that I had been eying the biggest dick in the gay cable network sex club for about a year knowing I would have to work up to it... then one night I decided it was finally time... I found the dude asleep in the corner, woke him up and demanded he f*ck me pronto... and given my super gym butt, he promptly came to attention and obliged like a good soldier... and not a hint of dodo... even got the jaded queers that ran the place as an audience... I guess it was a real show.
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Regarding the original topic:
Best immediate laxative there is is cocaine. Do a nice line of coke, wait a few, then take well deserved seat on your porcelain throne.
Otherwise, get a dildo that's at least nine inches and use it before sex to be sure yesterday's dinner has cleared the shoot before doing the real nasty.
Superior results when both techniques are used together, and don't forget to hose down the poop shoot after it's all out
.... yeah I was once a power bottom... in my time in NYC I'll aways remember that I had been eying the biggest dick in the gay cable network sex club for about a year knowing I would have to work up to it... then one night I decided it was finally time... I found the dude asleep in the corner, woke him up and demanded he f*ck me pronto... and given my super gym butt, he promptly came to attention and obliged like a good soldier... and not a hint of dodo... even got the jaded queers that ran the place as an audience... I guess it was a real show.
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in my time in NYC I'll aways remember that I had been eying the biggest dick in the gay cable network sex club
what is a gay cable network sex club
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.... yeah I was once a power bottom... in my time in NYC I'll aways remember that I had been eying the biggest dick in the gay cable network sex club for about a year knowing I would have to work up to it... then one night I decided it was finally time... I found the dude asleep in the corner, woke him up and demanded he f*ck me pronto... and given my super gym butt, he promptly came to attention and obliged like a good soldier... and not a hint of dodo... even got the jaded queers that ran the place as an audience... I guess it was a real show.
That goes to show you the power of a big dick. No matter how ugly the person is that its attached to, he will still get a ton of bottoms wanting to ride it. I don't know what the guy looked like in this scenario, but i've been to a couple of 'parties' where ive seen this in action.
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what is a gay cable network sex club
One run by Lou Maletta (http://chelseanow.com/articles/2011/11/09/gay_city_news/community/doc4ebad41dc0263066347802.txt) in Chelsea. I think it was for Gay Cable (on one of the Public Access channels for cable TV) use during the week and sex club on the weekend. I was friends with one of the security guards there -- actually he was my drug dealer. Lou was legendary as was the club. Where else could you bake your ketamine and watch some queen being plowed in a sling?
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Wow what a fascinating personality.
I didn't have tv all the years i lived in NY, so I never heard of all this. I d love to see some of those interviews mentioned.
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One run by Lou Maletta (http://chelseanow.com/articles/2011/11/09/gay_city_news/community/doc4ebad41dc0263066347802.txt) in Chelsea. I think it was for Gay Cable (on one of the Public Access channels for cable TV) use during the week and sex club on the weekend. I was friends with one of the security guards there -- actually he was my drug dealer. Lou was legendary as was the club. Where else could you bake your ketamine and watch some queen being plowed in a sling?
OMG! Baking 'K'! Those were the days! :-X
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OMG! Baking 'K'! Those were the days! :-X
I took a date over to a friend's house who was baking K and the date nearly shat himself. He ran outside and was all "Why did you take me to a crack den?".
In my defense I didn't know they were going to be baking K that night AND as much as I tried to explain it to him that it wasn't crack he wouldn't listen. So I went out alone that night.
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I took a date over to a friend's house who was baking K and the date nearly shat himself. He ran outside and was all "Why did you take me to a crack den?".
In my defense I didn't know they were going to be baking K that night AND as much as I tried to explain it to him that it wasn't crack he wouldn't listen. So I went out alone that night.
I have lived a sheltered life. Never done anything, except for pot. No surprise, right? I nearly shat myself when I was taken to an apt where they were smoking meth from light bulbs. We had just been to a bar next door, and some of the guys stole a case of beer on the way out the back door. I thought how stupid to steal something and then go smoke meth. I promptly left and just in time. The coppers were there about 10 mins after I left. This was in my small hometown, where you would get a hefty punishment for such things.
To bring this back to topic-- There was a guy there getting banged by 4 or 5 guys. I remember smelling shit. High on drugs, the guys didn't seem to mind. Before I took my leave, I had thought about taking a turn. But, I didn't want sloppy 6ths, and then there was the shit factor. I still wonder what the police walked in on. They probably got sodomy charges added on in that town. This was many moons ago, when gay sex was a high crime.
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To bring this back to topic-- There was a guy there getting banged by 4 or 5 guys. I remember smelling shit. High on drugs, the guys didn't seem to mind. Before I took my leave, I had thought about taking a turn. But, I didn't want sloppy 6ths, and then there was the shit factor. I still wonder what the police walked in on. They probably got sodomy charges added on in that town. This was many moons ago, when gay sex was a high crime.
It's a sparking sunny day after an evening snow storm so your story is particularly grim! Here's one in return for your brain retina.
My town is notorious for cottaging - doing it in public toilets. The shitters are turkish style - tiled cubicles with holes in the floor. Piss into the hole, or wherever, or squat and shit. This story is hearsay about a legendary local bottom. He was being used in one of these chiottes (shitters) and his routine involves big dildos on which he squats during the oral servicing. A fat dildo tumbled out of him and down the hole. He didn't miss a beat, reaching deep down, fetched and shoved the tool back up mama.
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anti-diarrhea meds may help.