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Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #50 on: December 31, 2008, 05:49:35 am »
5 days now that I have continous fever (101°) with absolutly no amelioration. night sweet, nausea, muscle and joint pain. No rash or respiratory symptoms. Only this fever ... And i'm freaking out because fever with no other symptoms is typical of ARS .... Doctor told me it's a virus ... But it just last too long and it's so different that other disease that I had that I really feel bad
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #51 on: December 31, 2008, 05:57:59 am »
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2009, 01:45:16 am »
I just tested positive with oraquick test.... I'm just completly confused ... I had fever 9 days after my exposure ... It went out after one week...Then 1 week after I had a rash that was itching a lot... I had to go to emergency since it was itching too much (arms and feet). I had an oraquick test at 25 days which was negative. Tonight I got tested with oraquick (39 days after exposure) and the result came back positive. They took a sample for the confirmatary test and I will Have the result in one week ... But I don'tundersand, everything was protected... I'm just under everything and completly confused .....
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2009, 04:39:11 am »
Not from the exposure you posted above, you didn't have a risk. And for your information rashes with HIV don't itch.

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2009, 04:47:27 am »
Man ... How could you answer me like that ... I don't know if this rash was due to HIV or not. But the only thing I'm sure is that the only exposure that I had was with this guy. And I got tested positive tonight with a negative test 2 weeks ago. I'm completly confused and really don't understand ... My sister told me it's probably a false positive but the nurse told me it's 99 % accurate. I just can't wait 1 week for the confirmatory result ... i'm completly under everything and don't understand what happen to me ...
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2009, 05:01:39 am »
One or two things have happened. Either you lied about having protected sex or you had sex again that has nothing to do with your above siuation. If you had protected sex then the test would have to be a false positive. You do not contract HIV from correctly and consistently use of a condom.

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2009, 05:19:07 am »
I can swear than I didn't had unprotected sex. I just called the guy with who it happens and it told me it was protected. And I didn't had any sex with any other guy before. I'm not lying or trying to say things which are not true. I'm just completly confused and I really don't understand what happen.
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2009, 05:22:56 am »
You've been coming here long enough to know that you received a false positive if you continue to claim to have had protected sex.

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2009, 06:02:21 am »
Ale,

False positives can and do happen. That's likely the case here.

A word of warning - do NOT post in the other sections of these forums until and unless you get confirmation by Western Blot of your positive result. I don't expect that to happen.

Ann
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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2009, 05:36:20 pm »
Thanks Ana for your comment,

A doctor on Medhelp forum told it's likely that I'm positive given all the information I gave. I Just don't know where to find myself. Should I keep hope that this a trully false positive ? I just don't beleive it when I see thqt the nurse told me it was 99% accurate. I want to go to antoher oraquick test today but i'm not sure if it's the good solution
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #60 on: January 25, 2009, 05:49:27 pm »
You have 3 posts on the expert forum at MedHelp and not one of those doctors told you were likely positive.

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #61 on: January 25, 2009, 05:54:27 pm »
Answer from today :

"I'm very sorry to hear this.  As nursegirl already said, the rapid tests like Oraquick can be falsely positive.  Putting together all the information, it sounds likely you are infected, but it isn't yet definite.  It is possible to unofficially confirm positive rapid test result by just having another ELISA test, using a different test than Oraquick.  This could settle the issue without waiting a week for the Western blot result.  For example, if a standard lab-based test or another rapid test (e.g., Unigold brand, and others), it would make it almost certain you are infected.  It's not quite as definite as a WB, but you would know with near certainty without having to wait a whole week.

Most likely your partner wasn't lying but had a very recent HIV infection itself, which is the time of maximum infectivity for partners.  I won't try to surmise the exact mechanism by which you were infected (if you were), i.e. anal despite condom, oral, or some other secretion exposure.

Assuming you are infected, it is critical that you immediately get care from a provider who who is an expert in HIV/AIDS, such as an infectious diseases specialist or other highly experienced professional or clinic.  If your current provider or clinic doesn't meet that standard, please ask for a referral.

If not yet done, if and when your infection is confirmed immediately inform your partner from last month what is going on so he can be tested and protect his own health and that of other partners. (Or you could call him now, without awaiting your confirmatory test result.)  If you don't know exactly who he is or how to find him, please call your local health department, if they don't call you first, and cooperate with them in locating and informing him.  Second, most likely you have not been sexually active with anyone else since your December exposure.  If you have, however, immediately inform that (or those) partner(s).

As you know, and as emphasized by nursegirl, having HIV isn't as dire as it once was, with modern drug therapy under the care of an expert.  Above all, don't panic.  If your positive result is confirmed, your life will change in dramatic ways, but with proper management it can still be a long, productive, enjoyable, and even thrilling life.

If your infection is confirmed, you're going to have a hundred more questions.  Although I can be available to answer one or two brief ones, this forum doesn't get into advice for HIV infected persons.  The HIV/AIDS expert you connect with is going to be the primary source for medical advice, and s/he or that clinic will be able to put you in touch with social and support services you might need.  Your local health department may also be able to facilitate referrals to both expert providers and support services. "
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #62 on: January 25, 2009, 06:02:05 pm »
Quote the post. I work on MedHelp and I don't see any such post to you from any doctor.

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #63 on: January 25, 2009, 06:12:43 pm »
"Worried about symptoms" by DLRP1985, Dr handsfiled
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #64 on: January 25, 2009, 06:16:28 pm »
Yes I found it but he only said what he said because that you stated your were positive. Read all the replies that were given you before you said you tested positive. He gave you the same information that we have given you. That you didn't have a risk from protected sex.

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #65 on: January 25, 2009, 09:03:19 pm »
A little update. I went to another oraquick test this afternoon. The test came back positive but I show the lines. The control line was really read and big and the test line was really faint. I ask him if it happen often and he told that a rarely saw a line like this which was faint. I mean the line was clearly here when you looked, but when you are at a distance, you only see the control line. This doctor told me to wait next week for WB results but he also told me that he only saw 1 false positive in 5 years .....
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #66 on: January 26, 2009, 06:47:56 am »
Ale,

We've seen plenty of false positive results here. I fully expect yours to be another, unless you've been having unprotected intercourse you neglected to mention.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #67 on: January 26, 2009, 11:59:42 am »
Hi Ann,

Thanks a lot for your support. I read some of your post on the forum when you said the a "faint" line especially at 6 weeks is not positive ... The doctor advise me to take an EIA blood test to be sure before I wait for the WB results.
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline Alefou

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2009, 01:20:40 pm »
And also I just found this research document : http://www.retroconference.org/2008/PDFs/534.pdf

In this document, it's written that 100 % of people with "faint" line or test line fainter that the control line were negative. They say also that people with those faint line should be said that they are preliminary positive but it suggest an HIV negative result.

I don't know if I should beleive all that, i'm scared to have hope then finnaly to have a confirmatory result positive ...
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2009, 01:48:53 pm »
You don't have any faint lines to worry about when you go for your confirmative test result.

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2009, 03:49:30 pm »
two eslisa blood test positive ...
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2009, 06:46:27 pm »
ELISA test is not a confirmative test.

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #72 on: January 30, 2009, 07:08:15 am »
Ale,

You need to confirm with a Western Blot test.

Unless you've engaged in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse you've not told us about, I doubt very much that you're positive.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #73 on: January 30, 2009, 08:11:05 am »
Ann,

I'm waiting for the WB for tuesday. I'm not trying to scare anyone to this forum. It's really not my point here. Probably the condom broke or the person remove it. That's the only way I can see that.I know have 3 different test positive and even if I know that only the WB will give a conclusive result, odds are greatly for my contamination like the doctor told me.  As you know from my precedent posts, i was very scared with that. I would never have put myself at risk. I was paranoid about HIV and I think you can see that by reading my precedent experiences.  I talk to that with my doctor. He had the same reaction than you so what you say everyone is true. My case is just incredibly not understanding for me  and that's why it's even more difficult because as far as I know from my side, every anal sex was protected, oral was unprotected but never receive ejaculation in my mouth. I have an appointment with an HIV specialist on Tuesday. On the meantime, I have tested today for a viroal load and a CD4 count (and a repeat  double ELISA test because it's the procedure here to make sure that sample were not exchanged). Again, I want to say to everyone, that doctors told me that anal sex with condom and oral sex is safe. But you must understand that someone in my case, which were told all that, is very confused right now.
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #74 on: January 30, 2009, 08:34:25 am »
Ale,

If you do end up testing positive with the WB test, well, you won't be the first person who ended up positive because the other person removed the condom.

However. I've just reviewed your posts and I really do think you've had false positive results. There are certain conditions, such as an underlying autoimmune disease, that can cause repeated false positives on the ELISA tests. That's one of the reasons a positive ELISA must be confirmed with a WB. If your WB result is negative (which I expect it to be) you need to see a doctor to be screened for autoimmune diseases. It is possible to have some of these without knowing.

Good luck.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2009, 08:51:19 am »
Ann,

I justed wanted to add something. I looked at all the test that the doctor ask me to do. There is a test called CPR (C Reactive protein). I looked on the internet to look what it was, and I find out that it's a test to detect autoimmune disorders. So I think my doctor had the same idea than you ... We will see ...
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2009, 08:54:58 am »
Ale,

It sounds like your doctor is a good one who knows his stuff. I can't tell you how refreshing that is to hear in this forum - too many doctors are ignorant when it comes to all things hiv.

Again, good luck. If it does turn out to be an autoimmune problem, I hope it's one of the easier ones to deal with. Hang in there.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #77 on: February 02, 2009, 03:11:45 pm »
Hi,

Just a little update ... Still do not received WB and viral load. I should ave that tomorrow. The repeat EIA test on Friday was positive also ( which makes 5 positive test now) ... Not really a good sign ...  The doctor received my CRP which is normal (no auto immune disease) and my blood count which is also normal.

I have an appointment tomorrow with an HIV specialist ...

Thanks,
Ale
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #78 on: February 02, 2009, 04:21:49 pm »
We'll be waiting to hear, Ale -- with fingers crossed.

Cheers.
Andy Velez

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2009, 05:51:16 am »
Hi,

I just got my blood count (not CD4 thought)

Leucocytes : 11800 ( NR : 4000-10000)
Poly neutro : 7434 - 63% (1700-7500)
Poly oeso : 236 - 2% (0-800)
Poly baso : 118 - 1% (0-200)
Lymphocites : 2950 - 25% (1200 - 4000)
Monocytes : 1062 - 9% (200-1000)

Is it normal to have more white cells than usual during the early course of infection ?

Thanks,
12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2009, 06:20:46 am »
Ale,

There's no way of discovering one's hiv status through regular blood tests. You're just going to have to wait for the WB results.

Sorry, but that's the way it is.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2009, 10:24:29 am »
hi all,

WB positive with all bands... If someone could move my thread to "I just tested Poz" it would be nice ....
My CD4 count is 838 with CD4/CD8 = 0.91. Don't have VL yet ... The doctor told me that my CD4 count was completly normal and that I do not need treatment at all now.

Thanks,
Ale
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12/16/2008 : Probable infection
12/26/2008 : ARS (Flu for one week)
01/15/2009 : HIV rapid test neg
01/28/2009 : Rapid test poz
01/31/2009 : Two EIA Poz
02/03/2009 : WB pos, CD4 : 832 (32%), VL : 116k copies/ml
03/08/2009 : CD4 : 836 (38%), VL : 104k

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Re: Completly scared
« Reply #82 on: February 03, 2009, 10:47:53 am »
Ale,

I'll lock this thread. Start a new one over there.

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