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Title: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: next2u on October 06, 2011, 01:04:21 am
http://news.yahoo.com/research-reveals-oral-sex-may-leading-cause-mouth-195800608.html

Research Reveals Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers

Mouth and throat cancer, called oropharynx cancer, used to be a disease seen most commonly in elderly persons. Tobacco smoking and alcohol use were known to be the leading causes of oropharyngeal cancer. Today, oral sex is listed as the leading cause of cancer of the mouth and throat.
New research, published in the Journal of Clinical Oncology, demonstrates that human papillomavirus, HPV, is the leading cause of cancer of the oropharnyx in the U.S. The number of people diagnosed with HPV-related oral cancers in the U.S. tripled from 1998 to 2004.
Currently, as NPR reports, almost 10,000 new cases of oral and throat cancer are diagnosed each year, with a 28 percent increase in incidence since 1988. Interestingly, the majority of those who are being diagnosed with the HPV-related oropharyngeal cancers are men. This leads researchers to wonder if the vaccine against HPV that is recommended for teenage girls may be affording that gender with protection against oropharyngeal cancer, as well as the currently known protection against cervical cancer.
Researchers have noted a marked drop in non-HPV-related mouth and throat cancers since the American population has begun to turn away from tobacco smoking.
The oropharyngeal cancer most commonly affects the tonsils, palate, base of the tongue and the upper throat. Whereas this type of cancer was previously seen most often in aged patients, it is now more common at younger ages, including baby boomers and their juniors, reports Bloomberg News.
HPV is the most commonly transmitted sexual disease, but as Dr. Gregory Masters, an oncologist at the Helen Graham Cancer Center in Delaware reminds us, research is not yet clear that oral sex is the main or only transmission factor in this cancer,
Dr. Maura Gillison, author of the research published in the Journal of Clinical Oncology states that persons who have had six or more partners on whom they've practiced unprotected oral sex are eight times more likely than those who have not had oral sex to develop the HPV-related mouth and throat cancers, reports CBS News.
Merck, the pharmaceutical company that manufactures the HPV vaccine, has issued a statement that there are no current plans to research the usefulness of the vaccine against oropharyngeal cancers.
Smack dab in the middle of the baby boomer generation , L.L. Woodard is a proud resident of "The Red Man" state. With what he hopes is an everyman's view of life's concerns both in his state and throughout the nation, Woodard presents facts and opinions based on common-sense solutions.

Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: J.R.E. on October 06, 2011, 08:11:21 am

Here's another related article :


http://www.medpagetoday.com/InfectiousDisease/STDs/22725



Rising rates of oropharyngeal squamous cell carcinoma may stem from a new epidemic of sexually-transmitted human papillomavirus (HPV), according to a review.

The incidence of oral cancer has been on the rise over recent decades in the U.S. and some northern European countries, noted Torbjörn Ramqvist, of the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, and Tina Dalianis, of the Swedish Institute for Infectious Disease Control in Solna, Sweden.

The corresponding increase in the percentage of those tumors positive for HPV over the past 10 years isn't simply because of more sensitive testing, they wrote in the November issue of Emerging Infectious Diseases.

For example, the Swedish Cancer Registry documented a 2.8-fold increase in tonsillar cancer around Stockholm from 1970 to 2002. Examination of all available tonsillar cancer samples indicated a rise in HPV-positive tumors over this period from 23% to 68%, with a further jump to 93% by 2007.

Similar patterns were seen for tumors at the base of the tongue, the second most common type of oropharyngeal squamous cell carcinoma.

"We suggest that this increase is caused by a slow epidemic of HPV infection–induced oropharyngeal squamous cell carcinoma," Ramqvist and Dalianis wrote in the paper.

Changes in sexual patterns are likely to blame, "such as increased oral sex or increasing numbers of sex partners," they added.

The HPV-positive rate is much higher -- at 45% to 100% -- in oropharyngeal squamous cell carcinomas than for other types of head and neck squamous cell carcinomas, in which HPV DNA has shown up in only about one-quarter of tumors over the past decades, the reviewers noted.

Studies have shown that HPV present in these tumors is integrated into the genome and actively involved in their development with gene expression similar to that seen in HPV-positive cervical and vulvar cancer.

The International Agency for Research against Cancer now recognizes HPV infection as a risk factor for oropharyngeal squamous cell carcinoma, particularly the high-risk HPV type 16 (which accounts for about 90% of HPV in these tumors).

Other known risk factors -- smoking and drinking -- are often absent in patients with HPV-positive oropharyngeal squamous cell carcinoma.

One study recently linked open-mouth kissing to development of oral HPV infection, which "could play a major role in timing of prophylactic vaccination of children," according to the review.

Vaccines directed again HPV16 (Cervarix and Gardasil) are recommended for girls at age 11 or 12, before becoming sexually active, but can be given to girls as young as 9, depending on circumstances.

"Although it will likely take several decades before the effects of HPV vaccination on cancer incidence will be detected, it is crucial to monitor the effects of the present HPV vaccination, not only on the incidence of cervical cancer but also on the incidence of oropharyngeal squamous cell carcinoma," the reviewers wrote.

The research was supported in part by the Swedish Research Council, the Swedish Cancer Foundation, the Stockholm Cancer Society, the Stockholm City Council, and the Karolinska Institute.



Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: David_CA on October 06, 2011, 12:39:21 pm
And still the vaccine isn't approved for men... (I assume it would prevent HPV in the mouth just as well as it does farther south).
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: skeebo1969 on October 06, 2011, 02:13:56 pm
And still the vaccine isn't approved for men... (I assume it would prevent HPV in the mouth just as well as it does farther south).


I'd be erfraid it'll make me a retarded girl.....
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 02:30:55 pm
Well I'm in a Sero-Discordant 18 yr. monogamist relationship, so I don't worry about HPV Throat Cancers or Butt Cancers :D
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Assurbanipal on October 06, 2011, 05:34:14 pm
And still the vaccine isn't approved for men... (I assume it would prevent HPV in the mouth just as well as it does farther south).


I thought it was approved for boys and young men (ages 9-26) in 2009 (against genital warts. but that wouldn't stop a doctor from using it to prevent other sexually transmitted diseases as well)

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm187003.htm
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Miss Philicia on October 06, 2011, 06:04:17 pm
Well I'm in a Sero-Discordant 18 yr. monogamist relationship, so I don't worry about HPV Throat Cancers or Butt Cancers :D

So both of you were nuns before this so-called monogamist relationship?
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: phildinftlaudy on October 06, 2011, 06:32:04 pm
If this research is true....

I'm doomed

DOOMED, I TELL YOU.......  DOOMED!!

:: hangs head and walks away crying  :'(
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 06:46:00 pm
So both of you were nuns before this so-called monogamist relationship?

If you mean we both had other BF's before we met each other YES we did, nuns oh now that is too funny  :D
true be told, since there is no way to test for HPV there is really now way to know, unless you have warts
and we do not anywhere on our bodies, the last time I checked we didn't have any  :D
now if you mean sisters of perpetual indulgence, then YES you would be correct  ;D
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Miss Philicia on October 06, 2011, 06:50:41 pm
since there is no way to test for HPV there is really now way to know, unless you have warts
and we do not anywhere on our bodies, the last time I checked we didn't have any  :D

So you're saying a colorectal doctor can't visually observe anal dysplasia unless the patient has had warts previously?

You know, it would be nice if once in a while you knew what you were talking about.

Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 06:52:35 pm
If this research is true....

I'm doomed

DOOMED, I TELL YOU.......  DOOMED!!

:: hangs head and walks away crying  :'(

Oh Phill that  doesn't mean that you have HPV there no test for this for men...
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Miss Philicia on October 06, 2011, 06:57:53 pm
Oh Phill that  doesn't mean that you have HPV there no test for this for men...

Which is why everyone should have an anoscopy -- have you had one (silly question of me to ask, I know). Regardless of if you "think" you and your partner are monogamous, or if you've never had anal warts, or if you're a top, or if you never have anal sex (etc. etc.) any previously sexually active gay man with HIV should have an anoscopy, preferably a high-resolution anoscopy (if you can find that).
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 07:00:04 pm
So you're saying a colorectal doctor can't visually observe anal dysplasia unless the patient has had warts previously?

You know, it would be nice if once in a while you knew what you were talking about.



All I know is that we don't have any  visual warts, or any dysplasia, if that is what your asking me?  we've both had  colonoscopies so there was nothing there so  what's your point dear........
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 07:05:27 pm
Which is why everyone should have an anoscopy -- have you had one (silly question of me to ask, I know). Regardless of if you "think" you and your partner are monogamous, or if you've never had anal warts, or if you're a top, or if you never have anal sex (etc. etc.) any previously sexually active gay man with HIV should have an anoscopy, preferably a high-resolution anoscopy (if you can find that).

And what medical school did you get your degree at  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Miss Philicia on October 06, 2011, 07:07:03 pm
All I know is that we don't have any  visual warts, or any dysplasia, if that is what your asking me?  

Anal warts and anal dysplasia are not the same thing. A colonoscopy and an anoscopy are not the same thing. A colonoscopy does not detect anal dysplasia which is what can lead to anal cancer. As previously stated you haven't the slightest idea what you're attempting to discuss (shocking, I know...)
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 07:14:58 pm
Anal warts and anal dysplasia are not the same thing. A colonoscopy and an anoscopy are not the same thing. A colonoscopy does not detect anal dysplasia which is what can lead to anal cancer. As previously stated you haven't the slightest idea what you're attempting to discuss (shocking, I know...)

Sweetie I don't have anal sex (with other men) we both haven't within the last 30 yrs. so again what's your point?   why are you so hell bent on that..... I wants to know  :-*
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Miss Philicia on October 06, 2011, 07:23:45 pm
Sweetie I don't have anal sex (with other men) we both haven't within the last 30 yrs. so again what's your point?   why are you so hell bent on that..... I wants to know  :-*

You poor thing, you don't even seem to know how HPV is spread (http://www.buzzle.com/articles/hpv-transmission-facts.html). Then again you don't really know why your parents weren't married when you were born (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39988.msg499603#msg499603) so once again, no shocker.
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: phildinftlaudy on October 06, 2011, 07:34:22 pm
So, I should probably ask my doctor when I see her on Monday to schedule a anoscopy for me.... I have never had one.  Believe me, I would remember if something went up there (I might not remember the person's name - but I do remember when something goes up there  :o  )

I had anal warts back in 1987 (way way before I was poz) --- they treated with podopherine (or something sounding like that) - they went away and never had them again...

I will check with doc  and see if she will schedule it.  Wouldn't want to have any of "my parts" start failing on me.
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 07:36:47 pm
You poor thing, you don't even seem to know how HPV is spread (http://www.buzzle.com/articles/hpv-transmission-facts.html). Then again you don't really know why your parents weren't married when you were born (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=39988.msg499603#msg499603) so once again, no shocker.
miss p you need to just relax & breath dear, life isn't all gloom & doom sweetie, life is to be lived and enjoyed,  everything isn't always about sex  :-* and i hope that someday you'll come to understand this.... however thanks for the links on HPV, they were informative  :-*
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Miss Philicia on October 06, 2011, 07:42:50 pm
miss p you need to just relax & breath dear, life isn't all gloom & doom sweetie, life is to be lived and enjoyed,  everything isn't always about sex  :-* and i hope that someday you'll come to understand this.... however thanks for the links on HPV, they were informative  :-*

So basically that's a long winded way of saying "You're right Miss P, I was wrong"?
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 07:46:24 pm
No what I meant to convey is your paranoid and I'm not   :-*
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: hope_for_a_cure on October 06, 2011, 07:49:40 pm
People should not put anything in their mouth that could harm them.  We were taught that as children and NEVER put anything in your mouth that has been on the floor.   
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Miss Philicia on October 06, 2011, 07:52:02 pm
No what I meant to convey is your paranoid and I'm not   :-*

Why should I be paranoid? I've had both the best colorectal surgeon in NYC and Philadelphia inspecting my innards for a decade now. I go to sleep every single night comforted in the knowledge that I won't wither away from a gruesome early death due to highly preventable anal cancer, unlike the rest of you suckers.

And remember, Farah Fawcett wasn't paranoid either until she withered away from ANAL NASTIES (http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af197/bedstuy65/farrah-fawcett.jpg).
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 07:56:39 pm
Why should I be paranoid? I've had both the best colorectal surgeon in NYC and Philadelphia inspecting my innards for a decade now. I go to sleep every single night comforted in the knowledge that I won't wither away from a gruesome early death due to highly preventable anal cancer, unlike the rest of you suckers.

And remember, Farah Fawcett wasn't paranoid either until she withered away from ANAL NASTIES (http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af197/bedstuy65/farrah-fawcett.jpg).

You go Girl  :D good for you miss p  ;D
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Miss Philicia on October 06, 2011, 08:02:39 pm
You go Girl  :D good for you miss p  ;D

So you and your partner don't 1) like to kiss and 2) have never had anal sex with each other 3) you still both have your partner get tested for HIV every 4-6 months.

Am I missing something here? It's not really adding up for me.
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 08:06:50 pm
So you and your partner don't 1) like to kiss and 2) have never had anal sex with each other 3) you still both have your partner get tested for HIV every 4-6 months.

Am I missing something here? It's not really adding up for me.

No I didn't say that what I said was we don't have anal sex (with other men)  nor do we have oral sex with any we don't sleep around if that is what your asking me, were very happy with each other  ;)
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Miss Philicia on October 06, 2011, 08:09:10 pm
Ah, I see where you edited your post down below after you made it... how sneaky.

I'm confused how 18 (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40054.msg499829#msg499829) suddenly became 30 though. Let's give it a go, shall we?

were very happy with each other  ;)

k
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 08:16:21 pm
Ah, I see where you edited your post down below after you made it... how sneaky.

I'm confused how 18 (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=40054.msg499829#msg499829) suddenly became 30 though. Let's give it a go, shall we?

k

Well I've always had a BF I was in a relationship way back when I was 25, I had 4 bf's since then, 3 of them died of aids, bob is my 4th and we have been together for 18 yrs. anything else you wanna know? if you do just PM me, and I'll be happy to tell you  ;)
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Miss Philicia on October 06, 2011, 08:28:50 pm
Well I've always had a BF I was in a relationship way back when I was 25, I had 4 bf's since then, 3 of them died of aids, bob is my 4th and we have been together for 18 yrs. anything else you wanna know? if you do just PM me, and I'll be happy to tell you  ;)

So then your post about not having had sex in 30 years with other men was incorrect.
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: denb45 on October 06, 2011, 08:39:37 pm
So then your post about not having had sex in 30 years with other men was incorrect.


What the hell is this shit 20 questions  ::)  I glad you find my life so dam interesting, why don't you go out and get one of your own, and find out for yourself  :-* If i didn't have sex in 30 yrs. I wouldn't be a very good queer now would I  :-* does answer your questions dear  :-*
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: odyssey on October 07, 2011, 11:09:24 pm
Oh crud! I've had oral sex and I found a lump in my throat a week ago! I'm not scheduled to go to the ENT doc until November. I hope its not cancer!
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: next2u on October 30, 2011, 04:23:58 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15507640


Lula, 66, has a tumour in his larynx, a statement from the Sirio-Libanes Hospital in Sao Paulo said
Former Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva has been diagnosed with throat cancer.

The 66-year-old has a tumour in his larynx, a statement from the Sirio-Libanes Hospital in Sao Paulo said.

"After multiple investigations, initial chemotherapy will start in the next few days. The patient is well," the statement read.

Lula was elected Brazil's president in 2002, the country's first leftist leader in half a century.


He was re-elected for a second term in 2006, and left office in December 2010 with record approval ratings.

The Brazilian constitution prohibits a third consecutive presidential term.

A former union leader, Lula presided over a period of strong economic growth in Brazil during which millions of people were lifted out of poverty.

It was widely reported, in March 2010, that Lula had given up smoking after 50 years.


***smoking or sex... conjecture and speculation. its out there.
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Since2005 on October 30, 2011, 04:45:19 pm
Should we send this link to the " AM I Infected " forum. Let Mods have fun with that ;)
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: mecch on October 30, 2011, 05:03:55 pm
Well there is the HPV vaccine and now its recommended for boys too.
So here's hoping that generation grows up to encounter less of these troubles.

Oral sex is probably one of the leading causes of relationship happiness! (if done well and often enough!)


Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: Growler on October 30, 2011, 05:23:42 pm
I chose anorexia over bulimia so I wouldn't mess up my gag reflex for when I gave blow jobs and NOW you tell me I'm going to get throat cancer....fuck, there's no winning!

GROWLER
Title: Re: Oral Sex May Be Leading Cause of Mouth, Throat Cancers
Post by: jkinatl2 on October 30, 2011, 07:01:53 pm
People should not put anything in their mouth that could harm them.  We were taught that as children and NEVER put anything in your mouth that has been on the floor.   

You forget the three second rule :)