These ads show that atheists can be just as shiny, happy and annoying as their fundamentalist brethren.
Baking cookies? Really?
It takes all the fun out of being godless.
I would not eat her cookies....She does have some crazy eyes.
Oh I dunno Ford. It's a bit pink for my tastes. It's certainly no family oriented desktop backdrop but you could do worse. :)
Naw, you just keep drinking the Jesus Juice babe. Leave the cookies to us.
Speaking of crazy eyes:(http://tool.shagnasty.net/wiki/images/b/bf/Pope.jpg)
MtD
I definitely wouldn't buy cookies from that man, or condoms.
Oh I dunno Ford. It's a bit pink for my tastes. It's certainly no family oriented desktop backdrop but you could do worse. :)
I knew I was going to be chastised for my wholesome desktop background. Let me change it to something more appropriate.
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I totally see Mattys penis now where I couldn't the other day .
That dirty thumbnail is seen more clearly as well...
Just saw on ABC News that 92% of Americans believe in God. However, other polls show atheists at 16%. Some people are flip-flopping. And that girl does look a little evil with her cookies.
I do agree that is not a very good picture of the HOLY FATHER. I wish you would have found a better one. He is a wonderful man filled with wisdom.
Matty,
I hope everything is going well for you. You are right, I am not much of a cookie eater, I will let you have mine. However, I am still very involved in the Eucharist and rejoice in the Lord and have continued to pray for the members on this site.
I do agree that is not a very good picture of the HOLY FATHER. I wish you would have found a better one. He is a wonderful man filled with wisdom. Many can not understand this wisdom because their selfishness and lack of dignity for life prohibits understanding TRUTHS.
Time is short, I pray for you and wish you well. May the Lord Jesus Christ grant you peace.
Our illness will be cured upon our deaths.
They also probably download a lot of porn in Greensboro too -- that's generally how hypocritical sinners operate.
Maybe, but not according to Google.
The 10 American Cities Most Likely To Search For Obscene Material
1.Louisville, KY
2.Rochester, NY
3.Philadelphia, PA
4.Newark, NJ
5.Los Angeles, CA
6.Irvine, CA
7.Pittsburgh, PA
8.Las Vegas, NV
9.Albany, NY
10.Orlando, FL
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/6/google-louisville-ky-is-the-most-obscene-city-in-the-u-s-#ixzz14zzdeSmk
Maybe, but not according to Google.
The 10 American Cities Most Likely To Search For Obscene Material
1.Louisville, KY
2.Rochester, NY
3.Philadelphia, PA
4.Newark, NJ
5.Los Angeles, CA
6.Irvine, CA
7.Pittsburgh, PA
8.Las Vegas, NV
9.Albany, NY
10.Orlando, FL
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/6/google-louisville-ky-is-the-most-obscene-city-in-the-u-s-#ixzz14zzdeSmk
Damn... trey's state didn't even make the list.
Matty,
You are something else. I figured you were a fallen Catholic. I will continue to pray for you and all of the forum members. I understand life can be confusing and take ones hope from them. I like Christ will continue to carry my cross. My faith is based not on a man, but JESUS CHRIST. I celebrate and find strength from the Sacraments.
You mentioned all of the terrible things that happen around the world. That is just apart of life and the stain from original sin. God intended that we live in paradise, but we screwed that one up.
Matty, death is not a bad thing we will all experience it very soon. Our illness will be cured upon our deaths. Our opinions will be subjected to judgement. I am sure when that time comes you will give glory to our saviour Jesus Christ, but for now being mad is OK. Christ loves you so much that you will be revealed the TRUTH and be given a chance to proclaim Him as God. As I would hope you would.
God Bless you Matty "the saved" and my our Lord grant you peace.
P.S You should have taken more wine so the host didn't stick to the roof of your mouth...lol
Apparently I won't be running for public office anytime soon, not that anyone here would vote for a liberal, humanist/atheist, poodle-loving homosexual with AIDS. North Carolina's constitution prohibits anyone from serving "who shall deny the being of Almighty God." Six other states, Arkansas, Maryland, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas, have similar provisions barring atheist officeholders.
Lawsuit Threatened if Atheist North Carolina Councilman Gets Sworn In
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/11/lawsuit-threatened-atheist-north-carolina-councilman-gets-sworn/
RALEIGH, N.C. -- Asheville City Councilman Cecil Bothwell believes in ending the death penalty, conserving water and reforming government -- but he doesn't believe in God. His political opponents say that's a sin that makes him unworthy of serving in office, and they've got the North Carolina Constitution on their side.
Bothwell's detractors are threatening to take the city to court for swearing him in, even though the state's antiquated requirement that officeholders believe in God is unenforceable because it violates the U.S. Consititution...
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I definitely wouldn't buy cookies from that man, or condoms.
On a tangent, this was in the news today:
Survey: Greensboro second holiest city in U.S.
Hey now, liberal cities like Philly are excused -- we don't pretend to be Thumpers here. Louisville is another matter. They watch porn so that they're not tempted to ride Tedderz horse cock.
Oh, I've read Louisville has the highest number of Catholics behind Maryland. I found that hard to believe as well.
But whatever, you're still going to find more Catholics per city in NYC just because of the size. 27.5% are Hispanic, then add in all of the Italians and Irish of which there are massive amounts and I'd not be surprised if it's 50% or more, and that's 4 million people.
Matty,I didn't want to post in this thread because clearly, christians and those non-followers of their cult will never see eye to eye. But give me a break. I don't even want to get into this.
I will continue to pray for you and all of the forum members. I understand life can be confusing and take ones hope from them. My faith is based not on a man, but JESUS CHRIST. I celebrate and find strength from the Sacraments.
God intended that we live in paradise, but we screwed that one up.
I am sure when that time comes you will give glory to our saviour Jesus Christ, but for now being mad is OK. Christ loves you so much that you will be revealed the TRUTH and be given a chance to proclaim Him as God. As I would hope you would.
Matty,
Never give up on God because of an institution. Just because you were excommunicated.. :D....Does not mean God does not care for you.....Dude, I can't help it, I am laughing right now....no disrespect, but what the HELL did you do!!!
I love your sarcasm it makes me laugh, but in some ways I think you are covering up something that has hurt you. I am sure that you are a very intelligent and loving person that has more substance then identifying everything sexually. Parts of your post will not get a response from me, but I just wanted you to know you are loved and a very important person. Your worth is much more then a sexual offering.
Do not give up on God because of man. God is much bigger then anything that we can think of. God goes beyond Science and Religion. I am not a Christian because of man. I am a Christian because of the Sacraments Christ has left us. I am not naive enough to think the people in the Catholic Church are perfect. The Church is filled with sinners. We all fall short of God and neither you or I are perfect ourselves and have let people down. With that said, the Church also has thousands of wonderful examples of people that have lived their entire life for God. The Church has also done wonderful things for many people. The people of the Church have disappointed many, but at the same time helped people of all walks of life.
Keep an open heart Matty, anything is possible in the eyes of God. If you truly do not believe in anything other then this short existence, I pray that you will have an open heart upon your death.
Pax Tecum
Ms. P may have skewed Philadelphia's numbers a bit ;D
Maybe, but not according to Google.
The 10 American Cities Most Likely To Search For Obscene Material
1.Louisville, KY
2.Rochester, NY
3.Philadelphia, PA
4.Newark, NJ
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/6/google-louisville-ky-is-the-most-obscene-city-in-the-u-s-#ixzz14zzdeSmk
Don't worry petal, it wasn't the church that drove me away from your imaginary sky fairy, it's the fact that he's, well, imaginary.
MtD
Matty,
I promise you one thing you will NEVER be able to prove there is not a GOD, nor will I be able to prove that there is a God.
I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. When I die if I burn out like a light bulb, so be it. I do not fear death. That is not the reason for my faith in Jesus Christ. I would have rather known Him while I lived and tried to help the poor and feed the sick. I work for a organization that brings food to Cancer patients and people that have AIDS. When I visit them, I give them the good news of Christ. I never tell them that this is it, and when they die there is no hope for them.
You may call me a fool for having faith in God, but I would rather be a fool then not have known the greatest love that anyone can experience. That love has made me a compassionate person that is able to give of myself to help care for others that are less fortunate. Call me stupid, but to see hope in a person's eyes that is dying is a wonderful thing. It is the greatest love one can give to someone. I am happy that I am able to open my heart to people in need, and to have been with many holding their hand as they pass, and showing love to them. I could not do that with out Jesus Christ.
I am not worried about being the center of creation. My faith in God comes from service, and the love I can show people while I provide that to them. We all are vessels for God, and I prefer to help others while I serve the Lord Jesus Christ.
Matty you do not have to believe in God, but I would hope that you would show some respect to others while participating in a forum that is open to all kinds of people. Explicit talk about Jesus on the Cross is really uncharitable, and I have not insulted or tried to offend you.
There are a lot of people that believe in God that participate in this forum. I however am one of the only ones that will speak up for God. If you have no innocence it is hard to have faith. The secular world will empty you and leave you hopeless and upset on how man has lead you wrong. After a while your appreciation for you surroundings will be empty. You will turn inward and seek self pleasure, but never find it within yourself. Only unselfish love that is giving to others can fill that void. If a person does not share that love, he will be empty and after awhile lose his faith in everything. God is serving people and if you serve it in His name you will see Him in other people.
Well Matty one thing is for sure we WILL find out won't we....I am sticking with JESUS.
.. let the devil torment Job just for the lulz.
Matty you do not have to believe in God, but I would hope that you would show some respect to others while participating in a forum that is open to all kinds of people. Explicit talk about Jesus on the Cross is really uncharitable, and I have not insulted or tried to offend you.
Underneath this harsh, prickly exterior beats a fragile heart, wounded and vulnerable crying out to be loved. Howl! :'(
Nice try Ford.
Problem is that "humanists" also sit on their great big asses permitting religious loonies to get away with most outrageous things.
however I think telling people their faith is irrational or criticizing their subjective experience doesn't promote human growth, reflection or happiness.
Damn, Matty, that cranky ole nun whacked your knuckles with a ruler a lot in school, didn't she?
I work for a organization that brings food to Cancer patients and people that have AIDS. When I visit them, I give them the good news of Christ.
I never tell them that this is it, and when they die there is no hope for them.
It's not reasonable to believe that homosexuals are intrinsically evil because it's written in some wrongly translated book.
It's not reasonable to believe that women are less than men because a bloke called Paul fell off a donkey.
Faith is that thing which allowed Islamic believers to drive an aeroplane or two into some skyscrapers a few years back.
......the more an organization tells you it has the answers, the less credible and more dangerous it is.
I agree with you I don't come to these forums to debate Theology.
I agree with you I don't come to these forums to debate Theology. Most people have not a clue about it and scoff at it and act like little children and berate the faith, but I guess they do that on a lot of other topics as well.... :D....I come here every once and awhile to check news regarding HIV. While checking I find people bashing the Church or God in some form. I then find myself compelled to respond. Kinda like the guy who calls himself a recovering Catholic that questioned me when I talked about carrying my cross......My dear friend, if you read the bible it speaks that we should all carry our crosses. It's stuff like that which makes me shake my head and start typing.
I have seen many topics were the Moderator has had to come and break up a post because of bad behaviour. I along with many find this bickering to be very distasteful and some stay away from these forums because of some harsh members.
I do not dislike Atheists. I have a friend who is one and in my opinion one of the better Humanitarians I know. I don't come to this site to bash anyone. I just respond to people spreading things that are uncharitable and for the most part very untrue.
The world has taken the innocence from many people and when that happens people lose their faith in God. They then turn to science and claim their faith in that. Science will never discredit God. Science can answer some questions, but will never prove there is not a God. Science and Religion should work together.
God Bless you all and may the peace of our Lord Jesus Christ protect you and give you peace.
I will continue to pray for the people in the Memoriam forum. Many have asked for prayers. In fact many people ask for prayer throught these forum. I will pray.
Miss Philicia,
Not correct. That was just another case of defending the faith from people that were bashing the Pope. It is my right to defend the Church. I have always been very charitable on these sites. I WILL CONTINUE TO DEFEND THE CHURCH WITH RESPECT AND DIGNITY. ;D ;D ;D
I work for a organization that brings food to Cancer patients and people that have AIDS. When I visit them, I give them the good news of Christ. ... I prefer to help others while I serve the Lord Jesus Christ.
Hey Wumpy, so do you take Manhunt breaks on Sunday these days and gorge on fried chicken instead of young chicken meat? ::)
Ann,
Where do you assume that I tell people they are going to hell. Are not you suppose as an Aministrator to set good examples on these forums. I don't tell anyone they are going to hell. I just show love to them, and if they want to talk about spirituality, I am happy to give them hope and share my thoughts. I don't preach to them, I just try to give as much love and understanding that fits their needs. Don't assume things about people you don't know.
I rang for a Waaaambulance for you. It should be there next Thursday.
These ads show that atheists can be just as shiny, happy and annoying as their fundamentalist brethren.
Baking cookies? Really?
It takes all the fun out of being godless.
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1186/5164423571_0846535efa.jpg)
http://ffrf.org/get-involved/bus-billboard-campaign/out-of-the-closet-campaign/
I got your call Ann but I won't get there till Friday, I have to go see a guy on Thursday with a Bible stuck in hisA....um throat... ;)
Hugs
Jan :-*
maybe we should change the subject to how does Jesus feel about disclosure or about Jesus and the criminalization of non disclosure , you know guys , something less contentious that we all can agree upon LOL .
Dangerous stuff. It will eventually lead to a debate about Jesus' opinion on oral transmissions. It is all downhill from there.
Yeah, yeah, god is great. Yeah, yeah, god is good. Yeh, yeh, yeh.
*cough* (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=immaculate%20infection)
And behold, Gabriel came down, and said fear not, I bring you tidings of a great burning, and you shall be a curse onto all men that sleep with you henceforth. And they shall call you dirty.
Thx Willy,
.My dear friend, if you read the bible it speaks that we should all carry our crosses.
And behold, Gabriel came down, and said fear not, I bring you tidings of a great burning, and you shall be a curse onto all men that sleep with you henceforth. And they shall call you dirty.
Anniebc,
To fully understand the power of Jesus words “take up thy cross” we must first examine what he is not saying. The cross is not just bearing the difficulties and pains of life. Our cross is not a cantankerous husband or nagging wife; it is not that wayward child or that arthritic hip. Folks, we all have problems. Those who are saved and unsaved. That is a part of life.
When Jesus spoke of the cross He spoke of death: dying to ourselves that we might follow Christ wherever He leads us. He is a picture of literally giving everything up for Him even our lives. Remember Jesus in the Garden saying, “not my will but thine will be done.?
The people of Jesus day were very concrete thinkers. When He spoke of the cross they knew exactly what he was speaking of as they had watched many poor soul marched to their death by Roman soldiers carrying their crosses. We all have struggles and if one is a Christian we are asked to glorify God with the suffering to unite ourselves with Him.
I hope this clears up what I meant' by saying we must take up our cross. Of couse, I never intended to say that our suffering is in place of the sacrifice that Jesus fulfilled on His cross.
I'm not claiming it is his fault, I am merely asking him to stop with the sermons. He made his point, it is over, and I want to return to our regularly scheduled thread about heathens.
Matty,
God has cured HIV with his son on the cross. You just refuse to take the medicine. ;D ;D ;D.....The priest talk is a little old I am very much over it. I am catholic because of the Sacraments not because of some bad priest. I am there to try and make it better. There are problems every were. The Church handled the issue wrong, but I am not leaving the Sacraments. I love the Church.
Matty once again you and your Science will never prove there is no God. Heck, in a case of an Atheist you might want them to focus on better medication to keep you alive. They might want to figure out the terminal illness we all have in ageing. Jesus has already cured that one.
John33,
Prove to me He doesn't exist. I have nature and the appreciation for my surroundings and believe that a higher power created it. I believe God is in all matter and do not think this was just a coincidence. That's my proof that God exists. Prove to me that He didn't create the first Atom. Prove to me that He wasn't here before time. Good luck.
Don't be upset with God because of Religion. God goes beyond Religion and Science. We can not comprehend God.
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Come on you can do better than that ;D
Killfoile,
Calling someone a heathen is judging them and could be looked at as "bullying" them. Are you calling Athiests heathens ?.....I just wanted to clarify.
Oh goody, semantic gymnastics. With the exception of you, my comment was in reference to the folks posting in this thread. We have known each other for years and we all share our deepest, darkest secrets. I love man sex and because of that, your church calls me deviant. I can therefore, be nothing but a heathen in the eyes of your church, because I do not accept their faith and I cannot afford $3,000 Prada slippers. Ergo, I am a heathen and it is a title that I wear proudly, if it means to be free from unwanted opinions being shoved down my throat. But I will not ask that you take my word for it, ask the members themselves.
OK folks, which one of you considers yourself to be a heathen? Can I see a show of posts? Please.
Killfoile,
Thanks for clarifying that. I bet we could take up a collection to get you those Prada shoes. I personally like Burberry and Louis Vuitton.
I don't think the Church hates you as much as you want the Church to hate you. That just my personal opinion.
Killfoile,
I don't think the Church hates you as much as you want the Church to hate you.
This thing is going no where.
GSO started it with a humorous intent and it has morphed into something entirely different. In other words it's been hijacked.
Now back to the OP.
That girls eyes scare the devil out of me (pun intended), I wouldn't touch those cookies with a ten foot "cross" ;).
RAB ;D
Can we please return to the OP? If you want to hold bible study, please start your own thread. Any further hi-jacking is unwarranted and to me, just another form of bullying. Nobody asked you about your faith, we are talking about atheists here and just because your religion cannot tolerate scrutiny, does not mean you get to derail our thread. Nobody asked you to defend anything, so if you don't have something to say, in support of the OP...
Anniebc,
To fully understand the power of Jesus words “take up thy cross” we must first examine what he is not saying.
Proof God does not exist.
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Oh I have to disagree, a higher power had to be involved in bringing these 2 people together!
Lol, yes. although he is not half bad looking, I've seen worse. She on the other hand...well, you know.The picture looks like it may have been taken at a Cracker Barrel in the mountains of West Virginia.
Perhaps he was doing charity work that weekend, you know a "sympathy" hook-up.
-Will
The picture looks like it may have been taken at a Cracker Barrel in the mountains of West Virginia.
he is not half bad looking
Proof God does not exist.
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/skeebo1969/funny_girl.jpg)
What are those green necklace thingies they are wearing? Kryptonite pendants?
Since these two are definitely Irish it would be my guess it's some kind of cursed charm bestowed upon them for stealing a fellow Leprechaun's gold.
Lol, yes. although he is not half bad looking, I've seen worse. She on the other hand...well, you know.
Perhaps he was doing charity work that weekend, you know a "sympathy" hook-up.
-Will
Guys,
Ann's absolutely spot on with this. Making fun of people because they was born with a smooshed in face is not cool. I am a bad man, but not an athiest or a humanist, so I guess I should extend an apology of sorts for influencing you guys. I am sorry. I will fix this. I fix everything. Ask my wife about the burnt lasagna the other night, she'll tell you. Skeebo is the shit. So now I will fix this.
(http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/skeebo1969/funny_girl-2.jpg)
People who live with glass medical conditions shouldn't throw stones.
If there was a God I would love her like a sister, but since there is not I can certainly laugh from afar without fear of a lightning bolt striking me through my window. Hmmmmm, or can I?
I will apologize though because obviously I have offended people I genuinely care about. That was not my intention.
I am sorry.
(((hugs)))
I may have not made it better for her, but I definitely made it a lot better for him.
Don't hurt me Ann....
This really doesn't apply to me though. I live in a brick house. ;)
I forgot to address this. How would you feel if, for instance, you had KS lesions on your face and someone posted a photo of you on some internet forum for the sole purpose of making fun of you? That's why I said that people who live with glass medical conditions shouldn't throw stones. I said nothing about houses.
Yes, folks, this kind of shit really makes my blood boil.
...with acne issues...
Maybe ya'll can convince me of how deserving I am for the bad week I've been having.
Can we please bring this back to the topic of atheism and Jebus?
Another perspective:
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Skeebs, ya need to work on them Photochop skillz.
Can we please bring this back to the topic of atheism and Jebus?
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Sheeesh, so the verdicts pretty much out. I stand accused of great harm to all those people afflicted with some form of physical disfigurement. So you two really want to believe this huh? I'm disappointed that after 5 years, not sure about you Betty, of knowing a lot about me you can form an opinion of me simply off a joke about a photo? Oh swell, it takes just a little bit to accomplish this.
Anyone else care to pile on? Maybe ya'll can convince me of how deserving I am for the bad week I've been having.
You are right about the young lady, she has a form of Treachers Collins Syndrome, it varies from patient to patient, and show up as craniofacial deformities, some are more sever than others this young lady has what would be termed as mild.
Hugs
Jan :-*
Matty, could you feed me answers as I have religious debates with my "sister-in-law"? When I get flustered, my mind goes blank and I can't put up a good debate. I would love to have you debate her for me. I admire your debating skills, telling it like it is, or whatever you call it.
Does she like to send out religious themed emails? Then reply in kind! Send her useful video links such as Foreskin Follies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlScy3FZCzU) from the "Our Blood Thirsty Bible" series or the latest offerings from Mr Deity. (http://www.mrdeity.com/)
MtD
I had almost forgotten about Mr. Deity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gnQz32c5EA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[MYSTERY]
He hasn't forgotten about you. :)
[/MYSTERY]
MtD
"The full exorcism is held in private and includes sprinkling holy water, reciting Psalms, reading aloud from the Gospel, laying on of hands and reciting the Lord's Prayer."
I had to post this link to "Noah's Ark-- God, Giraffes & Genocide" because the story of Noah's Ark was the first time I remember questioning what I was being taught in Sunday school and vacation bible school. Even as a child this story made no sense and seemed immensely cruel and unfair. Unsurprisingly I was more upset that God killed all the animals (what did all the animals do wrong?!) than the people. The other biggie was the story of Abraham and Isaac, which to me was like a horror movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CccaGaKOlSI
If you liked those then check out the Rape of Dinah. (http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/articles/what-bible-reveals-about-circumcision-and-sexual-violence)
MtD
Carnt say that I'm in agreement with you on that one, oh dear Matty. From what I recall (my joo days are now but a haze), the rape of Dinah involved the sons of Jacob committing some nasty massacre because they felt that their sister had been dishonored. It was them greedy fools that did it, teh god had nothing to do with this one.
Ford's assessment of the invisible one as an unfair, cruel, and whimsical creature is more evident in the story of the flood. How dare he kill all the poor animals just cause humans were actin' wicked and fuckin' around?
Another story that really bugged me as a kid (and still does to this day) was that of Cain and Abel. It seriously pissed me off to see the invisible guy showing preferential treatment towards the one who raised sheep --not so fair and all-loving towards those whom he created in his own image after all.
Meh, it is just a bunch of stories and genealogies that no longer move me. Hard to believe that I actually felt so passionately about this subject when I was a youngin.
I always marvelled at Lot's preparedness to hand his virgin daughters over to the sex crazed mob of Sodom. It seems that the hospitality to strangers is more important than the rights of women:
And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, Bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. (Genesis 19:5-8)
Of course the daughters were not virgins. As we learn in Genesis 19:14 the wenches were married.
MtD
You know the catholics should really get devious and start selling condoms, faulty condoms. I mean they have all the money to pay for the lawsuits.
I had a Catholic friend who had an interesting perspective. We were having a discussion about religion and he said that he paid a lawyer to handle his legal issues, a doctor to take care of his health issues and he paid the church to handle his ethical issues. He said the church has people who have devoted their lives to addressing the hard questions and if he needed answers he would consult with them.
I took Matty's recommendation and read Letter to a Christian Nation. It was very interesting and made several strong arguments why religion is a bad idea. I agreed with almost everything he wrote. When I finished though I had this feeling that even though Harris is correct his philosophy is never going to catch on. The biggest problem is it expects people to be rational and many people do not operate that way. They don't want to think about morality they want a philosophy that is congruent with their intuitive feeling about their existence. Some may not admit it but many people don't want to work all this stuff out, they want to be told what to do and reassurance that everything will be okay.
It honestly reminds me of the interaction between my parents. My father is an atheist and my mother was a Christian. My father could use intellectually based arguments all day long and make perfect logical sense but my mother wouldn't change her point of view. I can hear her telling him "Don't get technical with me! You don't know anything unless it has been written in a book. I don't need to read a book to know what I know and I don't have to justify my feelings to you." Unsurprisingly she divorced him. Also unsurprisingly he didn't see it coming because on paper their marriage should have worked. I learned early that being intelligent, logical and correct doesn't always make you popular or even persuasive. I think Sam Harris is correct and that many people won't care.
So Ford I have to ask , are you shiny , happy or do you still have the dull glow of a believer ? ;) I personally think you look shiny and happy no matter what you believe .