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Offline thunter34

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #200 on: August 10, 2007, 12:11:42 am »
sidenote:  our very own Cindy- featured hottie at POZ.


we saw her first!
AIDS isn't for sissies.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #201 on: August 10, 2007, 12:13:43 am »
Jeffrey,  I still think you are sexy,  with or without the boa.

  Jacques  ;)
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #202 on: August 10, 2007, 12:14:13 am »
Bucko~ Quit looking at Timtation's balls.....lol!  ;)

I found a picture of this guy holding my "jugs," Philly.  

Lipo has its benefits, Milker!

Hottie at POZ?  Wait until the Fall, Timtation, then you can say "You saw me 'first' !"..........  ;)

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #203 on: August 10, 2007, 12:17:23 am »
sidenote:  our very own Cindy- featured hottie at POZ.


we saw her first!


She is a celebrity- G L A M O R O U S - Superstar! 

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #204 on: August 10, 2007, 12:19:04 am »
I love my gay friends, but "Jeffie" saw me first and has dibs.......

So much love around here..... ;D
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #205 on: August 10, 2007, 12:19:21 am »
Keeping the topic on my total narcissism:


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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #206 on: August 10, 2007, 12:21:41 am »
I love my gay friends, but "Jeffie" saw me first and has dibs.......

So much love around here..... ;D

OMG  Cindy, you're first "GAY" LOL  I remember when I m ed you on the P match site you said you didn't know any gay guys, well, now just look!  LOL

xoxo  JeffreyM  your #1 fan

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #207 on: August 10, 2007, 12:23:52 am »
Keeping the topic on my total narcissism:


Bucko,  This is my second   day here, I'm a newbie to the forums, could you show some more please!





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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #208 on: August 10, 2007, 12:28:56 am »
Jeffrey,  I still think you are sexy,  with or without the boa.

  Jacques  ;)

Jacques,  How very sweet of you!  Thanks

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #209 on: August 10, 2007, 12:37:12 am »
Bucko,  This is my second   day here, I'm a newbie to the forums, could you show some more please!


Check out the first two pages of this thread, Jeffie.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #210 on: August 10, 2007, 12:38:47 am »
Keeping the topic on my total narcissism

I have suddenly grown quite hungry, and have found myself wanting to wear Jeffrey's BOA!

~Cindy   :P
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #211 on: August 10, 2007, 12:40:12 am »
Check out the first two pages of this thread, Jeffie.

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Brent~  I don't think that's what Jeffie meant, word on the street is........lol!

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #212 on: August 10, 2007, 12:40:27 am »
Check out the first two pages of this thread, Jeffie.

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Already did!   ;D
 

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #213 on: August 10, 2007, 12:48:05 am »
Well, you can peruse The Spin Cycle...it's all exposed there, for sure.

I'll PM you a study guide.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #214 on: August 10, 2007, 12:50:17 am »
I have suddenly grown quite hungry, and have found myself wanting to wear Jeffrey's BOA!

~Cindy   :P

Here Cindy, have this one!


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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #215 on: August 10, 2007, 12:50:45 am »
Spin Cycle Cliff's Notes?  NOW WE'RE TALKIN'!
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #216 on: August 10, 2007, 12:51:31 am »
or two

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #217 on: August 10, 2007, 12:51:54 am »
Ok now i'm lost. Who's wanking his boa?

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #218 on: August 10, 2007, 12:52:44 am »
eep!  i only like trouser snakes.
AIDS isn't for sissies.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #219 on: August 10, 2007, 12:53:17 am »
Well, you can peruse The Spin Cycle...it's all exposed there, for sure.

I'll PM you a study guide.

Brent
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Wow  thanks!

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #220 on: August 10, 2007, 12:55:21 am »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Laughing so hard, Now I'm gonna P

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #221 on: August 10, 2007, 12:56:57 am »
Did someone say trouser snake?
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #222 on: August 10, 2007, 01:03:26 am »
Did someone say trouser snake?

Yes...and ready to strike, baby.

Though now also reportedly venomous.
AIDS isn't for sissies.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #223 on: August 10, 2007, 01:03:56 am »
Wow  thanks!

No problem, babe.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #224 on: August 10, 2007, 01:04:56 am »
Here ya go!  LOL  ;D

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #225 on: August 10, 2007, 01:07:50 am »
Yes...and ready to strike, baby.

Though now also reportedly venomous.

I am a Scorpio, the scorpion will sting you right back, baby.

So, let's play.   :P
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« Reply #226 on: August 10, 2007, 01:09:59 am »
Here ya go!  LOL  ;D
Thank God I already wanked from the other thread, because that picture would make it lose it.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #227 on: August 10, 2007, 01:19:00 am »
LOL

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #228 on: August 10, 2007, 01:23:40 am »
Strangely, that looks like me with the binoculars...and that's EXACTLY what I would say.

Me, when I was a dirtier blonde......and with my GFs as well........

Feeling vain again!

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #229 on: August 10, 2007, 01:28:26 am »
I love me in Red!   ;D

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #230 on: August 10, 2007, 01:29:07 am »
Spin Cycle Cliff's Notes?  NOW WE'RE TALKIN'!

OMG, can't believe I missed that!  Yummy thought!
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #231 on: August 10, 2007, 01:29:46 am »
Strangely, that looks like me with the binoculars...and that's EXACTLY what I would say.

Me, when I was a dirtier blonde......and with my GFs as well........

Feeling vain again!

Are there clouds in your coffee?  LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B7bVD_DkM4
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #232 on: August 10, 2007, 01:31:02 am »
I love me in Red!   ;D

Jeffie, I love you in RED!  GLAMOROUS!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5Uahw5BU9N8
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #233 on: August 10, 2007, 01:56:39 am »
Cin-
Pretty in pink, and with princesses no less.

Jeffie-
It's a rare man who can pull off red, babe. I haven't attempted it in 15 years, at least.

Milkie-
Somehow something exciting you doesn't surprise me one bit.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #234 on: August 10, 2007, 02:00:15 am »
You may have to start a Part II, like the GFs and I did in the dating threads, we're up to Part III, lol!

That first pic "041504" is a killer one of my eyes (feeling vain).   :P
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« Reply #235 on: August 10, 2007, 04:10:15 am »

That first pic "041504" is a killer one of my eyes (feeling vain).   :P

Revel in your loveliness, doll. You deserve every ounce of tribute.

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #236 on: August 10, 2007, 12:47:33 pm »
the attached doesn't qualify as narcissism but i notice a lot of general pic sharing here in this thread, so here goes...


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« Reply #237 on: August 10, 2007, 12:57:45 pm »
That must be that pizza joint Andy raves about.
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« Reply #238 on: August 10, 2007, 12:59:05 pm »
Yes, it's quite a good pizza place -- John's on Bleecker I believe in the West Village (though I know a better one in Brooklyn!)
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« Reply #239 on: August 10, 2007, 01:07:37 pm »
yeah that's it. darn, now i want pizza - but i just had a tuna wrap  :-\

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #240 on: August 10, 2007, 01:38:16 pm »
You live in Brooklyn dear.  You MUST go there:

http://www.grimaldis.com/brooklyn.htm

(plus it has stellar views of Lower Manhattan right outside at the old Fulton Ferry landing)... any tourists to NYC might check it out too if you want to make a fun, memorable walk across the Brooklyn Bridge.  Grimaldi's is conveniently right under the bridge anchorage.
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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #241 on: August 10, 2007, 03:18:58 pm »
You may have to start a Part II, like the GFs and I did in the dating threads, we're up to Part III, lol!

That first pic "041504" is a killer one of my eyes (feeling vain).   :P


Lawsy Yes!  Cindy, I thought your eyes Were gorgeous in that pic.


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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #242 on: August 10, 2007, 04:11:49 pm »
Just me

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« Reply #243 on: August 10, 2007, 04:56:33 pm »
Lawsy Yes!  Cindy, I thought your eyes Were gorgeous in that pic.

TY   ::)

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« Reply #244 on: August 10, 2007, 05:32:05 pm »
Awww she said it. She is my fruitfly!     :-*


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« Reply #245 on: August 10, 2007, 05:36:57 pm »
Awww she said it. She is my fruitfly!     :-*

That was funny, don't know how they kept straight faces, lol! 

I'm MUCH cuter, btw.....  :P
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« Reply #246 on: August 10, 2007, 06:12:57 pm »
lol  ;D ;D ;D...i love this thread!!!!!! just had a rough week at work and it just disappeared...you guys are funny  ;D

brent, how do i get a study guide?

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Re: Utter Narcisism
« Reply #248 on: August 11, 2007, 01:19:05 am »
Dear Jeff,

Welcome to this forum, I'm gonna love you here.

I am a bit jealous of your fabulousness in red so here is my come back

Rich
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« Reply #249 on: August 11, 2007, 01:29:46 am »
Yay!
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