Willy's Boy

[drewm]

[WillyWump]

Really Drew? Dont you think this is a bit played out??

Now stop smoking crack.

-W

PS- Dont think I haven't noticed your avatar either. Dont they have Uhauls in Houston? You are free to move out of state you know.

[drewm]

Really Drew? Dont you think this is a bit played out??

Now stop smoking crack.

-W

PS- Dont think I haven't noticed your avatar either. Dont they have Uhauls in Houston? You are free to move out of state you know.

Not sure why you have taken such a nasty disposition toward me but it is duly noted. Glad you noticed my avatar because I do plan on getting out of this flea-ridden state just as soon as I can. Have a great day Willimeana.

[Miss Philicia]

I recommend escaping the entire South before you end up with diabetes and are attached to a Medicare scooter

[drewm]

I recommend escaping the entire South before you end up with diabetes and are attached to a Medicare scooter

LOL Miss P. I was thinking the same thing... 

[mikeyb39]

Well being a fellow Texan, I have to agree with Willy.  I may not agree with everything here, but i can't imagine living anywhere else.  Job market is better here than most places, no state tax, cost of living is less.  The sexy cowboys themselves are a great benefit.  Never bogged down in 12 inches of snow. Plus i can hop on a plane here in dallas and be just about anywhere in the country within 2 to 4 hours.

[WillyWump]

Not sure why you have taken such a nasty disposition toward me but it is duly noted. Willimeana.

Ohh now Droodles, don't get your Traitorist Texan panties twisted up. I still like you....for now.

[Miss Philicia]

Not sure why you have taken such a nasty disposition

She's upset because I won't hold her hands when we walk down the street. And if you don't believe me I'll be happy to cut/paste the text transcript.

[mitch777]

She's upset because I won't hold her hands when we walk down the street. And if you don't believe me I'll be happy to cut/paste the text transcript.

i don't believe you.

[WillyWump]

She's upset because I won't hold her hands when we walk down the street. And if you don't believe me I'll be happy to cut/paste the text transcript.

No, what I said was ...that I like to hold hands, but you wont find me skipping down the street hand in hand with my boyfriend.

[Miss Philicia]

you wont find me skipping down the street hand in hand with my boyfriend.

You really need to talk to your therapist about your inability to separate reality from fantasy.

[WillyWump]

Well being a fellow Texan, I have to agree with Willy.  I may not agree with everything here, but i can't imagine living anywhere else.  Job market is better here than most places, no state tax, cost of living is less.  The sexy cowboys themselves are a great benefit.  Never bogged down in 12 inches of snow. Plus i can hop on a plane here in dallas and be just about anywhere in the country within 2 to 4 hours.

Also, hmm, Texans stand up for their gays. New Yorkers not so much...watch all the way through...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JibZ2U3o-M

[drewm]

Ohh now Droodles, don't get your Traitorist Texan panties twisted up. I still like you....for now.

But you'll never like me as much as the Biebs... 

[Miss Philicia]

It's sad that even the queers here believe Perry's own bullshit about Texas.

[drewm]

It's sad that even the queers here believe Perry's own bullshit about Texas.

Rick Perry was a 'D-Average' student at Texas A&M who has never held a real job in his life with the exception of a four year stint in the Air Force. The people of this state have kept this idiot in state office, Texas legislature, Agriculture Commissioner, Lt. Governor and Governor (3 terms). It really doesn't speak well for the voters here because he is a gaffe-prone idiot who is killing medicaid.  The Los Angeles Times wrote that under Perry, "working Texans increasingly have been priced out of private healthcare while the state's safety net has withered."

There are a lot of good things about Texas but this state is all about 'small southern politics.' Texas is no better, politically, than Louisiana.

[WillyWump]

There are a lot of good things about Texas but this state is all about 'small southern politics.' Texas is no better, politically, than Louisiana.

btw Droodly droo, where are you moving when you leave Texas?

[mitch777]

Rick Perry was a 'D-Average' student at Texas A&M who has never held a real job in his life with the exception of a four year stint in the Air Force. The people of this state have kept this idiot in state office, Texas legislature, Agriculture Commissioner, Lt. Governor and Governor (3 terms). It really doesn't speak well for the voters here because he is a gaffe-prone idiot who is killing medicaid.  The Los Angeles Times wrote that under Perry, "working Texans increasingly have been priced out of private healthcare while the state's safety net has withered."

There are a lot of good things about Texas but this state is all about 'small southern politics.' Texas is no better, politically, than Louisiana.

i have held the belief that "nationalism" thinking can blind people with false pride. It can be difficult for some to admit.
the same thinking goes on at the state level.
nothing wrong with pride per se but when it clouds your ability to see reality...

[anniebc]

Don't y'all be dissing Texas now, not when I'm about to visit in a few months, I want to hear only good things...

Aroha
Jan

[WillyWump]

Don't y'all be dissing Texas now, not when I'm about to visit in a few months, I want to hear only good things...

Thats right you bitter queens Jan and Jen are coming to San Antonio!!! Take that!

*sticks tongue out*

[Dachshund]

Thats right you bitter queens Jan and Jen are coming to San Antonio!!! Take that!

*sticks tongue out*

And Memphis cowgirl, where true southern hospitality lives. Can't wait!

[WillyWump]

And Memphis cowgirl, where true southern hospitality lives. Can't wait!

GASP! Jan! are you cheating on me?

[drewm]

btw Droodly droo, where are you moving when you leave Texas?

Indiana

[anniebc]

And Memphis cowgirl, where true southern hospitality lives. Can't wait!

Can't wait to see you Dachs, and looking forward to meeting Sammers (I hope).

Thats right you bitter queens Jan and Jen are coming to San Antonio!!! Take that!

*sticks tongue out*

LOL..doing the whole nine yards this year Will, Austin, San Antonio, Houston, (with Creighton and Santi)  Birmingham Alabama, Memphis and Atlanta, (with Jeff) can't wait to see all my best AMG buddies again, looking forward to catching up again Will.

Aroha
Jan

[anniebc]

GASP! Jan! are you cheating on me?

Sorry you had to find out this way Will, I was going to tell you ...honest..

Aroha
Jan

[Jeff G]

GASP! Jan! are you cheating on me?

Yes she is Will , with me ! . Im getting a visit as well .

[WillyWump]

Yes she is Will , with me ! . Im getting a visit as well .

WELL!

A man in every port

[Dachshund]

Can't wait to see you Dachs, and looking forward to meeting Sammers (I hope).

LOL..doing the whole nine yards this year Will, Austin, San Antonio, Houston, (with Creighton and Santi)  Birmingham Alabama, Memphis and Atlanta, (with Jeff) can't wait to see all my best AMG buddies again, looking forward to catching up again Will.

Aroha
Jan

Oh, the Sammers will be there with bells on. Can't wait to meet you all.

[Jeff G]

JK ... READ YOUR PM'S .

[WillyWump]

anywayyys...since this thread has my name on it I'm going to go ahead and put this here...

[anniebc]

WELL!

A man in every port

At my age you have to grab all you can while you have the time..

Oh, the Sammers will be there with bells on. Can't wait to meet you all.

I'm so glad Sammers will be there as well.

Aroha
Jan

[anniebc]

anywayyys...since this thread has my name on it I'm going to go ahead and put this here...

LOL..mine is not to reason why...but WHY!!

Aroha
Jan

[Solo_LTSurvivor]

anywayyys...since this thread has my name on it I'm going to go ahead and put this here...

Shouldn't you have posted this over on that porn thread 

[Ann]

Indiana

Really? Moving from one Republican stronghold to another is a good thing when you live with hiv and have a high dependency on affordable healthcare? I hope you've thought this move through.

[denb45]

Indiana

drewm  move to Albuquerque, NM    good health care for HIV+  housing also available, if you need it

 ABQ- Metro  is 32nd largest city in the US and is 52 miles wide X 92 square-miles long, it has just about everything  you could want  population wise it has about a million and a half 

maybe you should re-consider moving to Indiana.......just sayin 


HUGS

DEN 

[Miss Philicia]

Philadelphia has a better selection of cheese so naturally I advocate that choice. Plus it's four times the size of Dennis' shithole.

Also, one can travel to NYC on a train in an hour and only slightly longer to DC. One can survive here with no car.

[denb45]

And, I love you too sweetheart 

HUGS

DEN 

[WillyWump]

drewm  move to Albuquerque, NM 

LMAO! Albuquerque. 

[denb45]

LMAO! Albuquerque. 

beats pushing a shopping cart around and being  HIV+ and a homeless VET

cause that is the only thing I could hope for living in any other large city

at my income level 

as I could NOT afford to do so...........just being honest here, nothing more


HUGS

DEN 

[drewm]

Really? Moving from one Republican stronghold to another is a good thing when you live with hiv and have a high dependency on affordable healthcare? I hope you've thought this move through.

It's home. Family is there.

[wolfter]

I have family in Indiana and have spent considerable time in Indianapolis and Fort Wayne.  They're both great places.

I'm considering moving to Columbus, OH.  I think it's about time to live amongst the gays.  It's one of the most gay friendly cities in the US.  I can't find the study, but I know I read that somewhere.

[Miss Philicia]

I think it's about time to live amongst the gays. 

You probably should have done that 25 years ago.

edit: whoa, big move there Big W... 66 miles!

[wolfter]

You probably should have done that 25 years ago.

edit: whoa, big move there Big W... 66 miles!

Since I was preparing to die 25 years ago, why would I move to start a new temporary life?

I found this interesting, Columbus is underrated for its gayness.

http://gaytravel.about.com/od/placestogo/tp/underrated_gay.htm

[Miss Philicia]

Since I was preparing to die 25 years ago, why would I move to start a new temporary life?

Well why the hell not? That's exactly when you should do wild and crazy things. In fact, not only should you have moved to the city, you should have become a coke dealer.

Don't you remember Auntie Mame's sage advice? LIVE! LIVE! LIVE!

[Ann]

It's home. Family is there.

Ah, so you're a Hoosier? Me too. I was born in Fort Wayne, but moved back to the Greater Cleveland area when I was but a toddler. I still toddle from time to time, but that's a whole other thread.

[wolfter]

Ah, so you're a Hoosier? Me too. I was born in Fort Wayne, but moved back to the Greater Cleveland area when I was but a toddler. I still toddle from time to time, but that's a whole other thread.

I'm visiting my Aunt & Uncle for a few days before AMG this year.  She's watching after Miss Lily while I attend.  And Cleveland?  Way cooler city than many believe.  Bill and I spent many of weekends there.  We'd take the camper and stay in a campground that was real close to the nightlife action.  I still have my autographed Suzanne Westenhoefer Tshirt from when we saw her perform at a comedy club.

I won't tell the story of the one time he let me drive his conversion van pulling that damn camper.  I'll just say that I forgot it was back there.

[denb45]

I'm considering moving to Columbus, OH.  I think it's about time to live amongst the gays.  It's one of the most gay friendly cities in the US.  I can't find the study, but I know I read that somewhere.

So how long has this been going on  even here in Albuquerque, I live amongst the gays, and just about any other ethnic race you can think of...........where the hell do you live again?  if you would have moved to
Columbus yrs. ago we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we 

HUGS

DEN 

[Miss Philicia]

live amongst the gays

amongst, but not of...

[Dachshund]

live amongst the gays

amongst, but not of...

Homo's in the mist.

[wolfter]

So how long has this been going on  even here in Albuquerque, I live amongst the gays, and just about any other ethnic race you can think of...........where the hell do you live again?  if you would have moved to
Columbus yrs. ago we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we 

HUGS

DEN 

After Bill died, I moved to the burbs of Columbus (Pataskala).  I had to move back to my mother's home after I got sick the last time.   I couldn't quite make the big move to a real city....lol  I've only recently doing things out of my comfort zone.  I live in an area where there is NO diversity and only a few gays.

I really don't see much need to remain in these parts any longer.

[denb45]

After Bill died, I moved to the burbs of Columbus (Pataskala)

I really don't see much need to remain in these parts any longer.

Yes we all do what we have to do after a death of a loved one 

Well good for you, 66 miles to Columbus really isn't all that far away ya know 

glad your starting to think outside the box 

HUGS

DEN 

[drewm]

Ah, so you're a Hoosier? Me too. I was born in Fort Wayne, but moved back to the Greater Cleveland area when I was but a toddler. I still toddle from time to time, but that's a whole other thread.

Hoosier by birth, Texan by choice but hey, everyone is entitled to a mistake 

[Miss Philicia]

Why in the world would any cocksucker make such a choice? It's like choosing to relocate to Uganda.

[WillyWump]

  We'd take the camper and stay in a campground that was real close to the nightlife action.

Yeah, nothing like heading home to the campground after the clubs 

It's home. Family is there.

Enjoy that State Income Tax

*edited to change "sales tax" to 'Income tax"

[Miss Philicia]

Enjoy that State Sales tax Droodles.

Texas state sales tax = 6.25%

Pennsylvania state sales tax = 6%

stfu

Also, as far as I know in terms of state income tax which you don't have, your property taxes are more onerous, so again stfu

Honestly the more important issue is if one performs job "X" are they paid more in Texas or in New York? I think we all know that particular answer.

[WillyWump]

Texas state sales tax = 6.25%

Pennsylvania state sales tax = 6%

stfu

Also, as far as I know in terms of state income tax which you don't have, your property taxes are more onerous, so again stfu

Im talking to traitor Droodles not you. This has nothing to do with Shitsylvania.

Indiana State Sales tax- 7% +State Income Tax. I dont think Droodly owns a home. I could be wrong.
Texas - no state income tax.

so STFU

Ps- my orginal comment to Drew should have said "Good luck with that State Income tax" not sales tax

[Miss Philicia]

Im talking to traitor Droodles not you. This has nothing to do with Shitsylvania.

Indiana State Sales tax- 7% +State Income Tax. I dont think Droodly owns a home. I could be wrong.
Texas - no state income tax.

Wow, so you're quibbling over a difference of 0.75% in sales tax? You know, not every queer has to pinch pennies because they're paying twenty years of child support.

[WillyWump]

Wow, so you're quibbling over a difference of 0.75% in sales tax? You know, not every queer has to pinch pennies because they're paying twenty years of child support.

This is about Income tax. Not sales tax. see above Einstein.

[Miss Philicia]

This is about Income tax. Not sales tax. see above Einstein.

So your proud that your state has no income tax which leads to placing near the bottom in terms of public health and education? Fascinating, especially for someone with AIDS.

[denb45]

The New Mexico state gross receipts tax rate is currently 5.125%. Depending on local municipalities, the total tax rate can be as high as 8.625%.

as I live in the most populated county & city in the whole entire state
so 8.625% is what we pay here in ABQ-metro & Bernco county 

HUGS

DEN 

[WillyWump]

So your proud that your state has no income tax which leads to placing near the bottom in terms of public health and education? Fascinating, especially for someone with AIDS.

yes in a nutshell

"education" is a broad term, can you be specific please. For instance Texas ranks 20th in Adults who attend at least some college. and 30th in Adults who attain Bachelors degrees.

Edited to add: hmmm Texas is 9th according to US Dept of Education rankings of graduation rates....which is well above Shitsylvania

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/26/high-school-graduation-ra_n_2194378.html

[wolfter]

Indiana is quite expensive to maintain and drive a vehicle.  Your vehicle registration cost is based on the year and value of your car.

My aunt and uncle once told me it cost them over $2,000/year just for vehicle registrations for them and my cousins.

Ohio has a marginal income tax rate of 5.92% and a 7% sales tax.

[wolfter]

Yeah, nothing like heading home to the campground after the clubs 

Why?  Is this another gay faux pas?  Or is camping not a fun activity in Texas? 

A lot of campgrounds have communal shower areas btw.

[Miss Philicia]

NYC has probably the highest combined taxes in the country, and I don't remember sitting around moaning about it.

[denb45]

Willy Boy THIS IS FOR YOU 


 "Texas, Our Texas"

Texas, Our Texas! all hail the mighty State!
Texas, Our Texas! so wonderful so great!
Boldest and grandest, withstanding ev'ry test
O Empire wide and glorious, you stand supremely blest.
(chorus)

Texas, O Texas! your freeborn single star,
Sends out its radiance to nations near and far,
Emblem of Freedom! it set our hearts aglow,
With thoughts of San Jacinto and glorious Alamo.
(chorus)

Texas, dear Texas! from tyrant grip now free,
Shines forth in splendor, your star of destiny!
Mother of heroes, we come your children true,
Proclaiming our allegiance, our faith, our love for you.

Chorus

God bless you Texas! And keep you brave and strong,
That you may grow in power and worth, throughout the ages long.
God bless you Texas! And keep you brave and strong,
That you may grow in power and worth, throughout the ages long.


HUGS

DEN 

[Miss Philicia]

Texas drops close to bottom in student spending

Way to go, Alamo!

[WillyWump]

Texas drops close to bottom in student spending

Way to go, Alamo!

But is 9th nationally in graduation rates. Our kids are smart so we don't need to spend money on remedial Dick and Jane readers.

[Miss Philicia]

But is 9th nationally in graduation rates. Our kids are smart so we don't need to spend money on remedial Dick and Jane readers.

Graduation rates mean little when your standards for grading them are so abysmally low. That's why they end up at some crappy place like Texas State - San Marcos.

How are your teen pregnancy rates?

[denb45]

I'm proud to be a neighbor to the west of TEXAS 

and as you all know, NEW MEXICO was once part of Texas, if my history is correct 

Will, glad you are my neighbor to the east of me 


HUGS

DEN 

[WillyWump]

crappy place like Texas State - San Marcos.

Oh HELL NO you dint!

Somebody hold my wig while I teach a queen some respect.

[wolfter]

I'm proud to be a neighbor to the west of TEXAS 

and as you all know, NEW MEXICO was once part of Texas, if my history is correct 

Will, glad you are my neighbor to the east of me 


HUGS

DEN 

Weren't they both part of Mexico?

[WillyWump]

I'm proud to be a neighbor to the west of TEXAS 

Will, glad you are my neighbor to the east of me 


HUGS

DEN 

 

I am honored to have you as a neighbor to the west of me Den. I got your back man.

[WillyWump]

Weren't they both part of Mexico?

Until we beat them Pancho Villa bastards back with a stick and took it from them

[Miss Philicia]

New Mexico and Texas were separate political divisions dating back to the Viceroyalty of New Spain. There was a smidgen of current day western areas of Texas that could be viewed as part of the of the province of Santa Fe de Nuevo México but that's it as borders were not surveyed by today's methods but left somewhat vague.

Seriously, how can you people live down there and not know this? Is our children learning?

[wolfter]

Before European invasion, I believe texas was inhabited by Native Americans and Mexicans. 

[denb45]

[
Seriously, how can you people live down there and not know this? Is our children learning?

I'm Northern California transplant here, but was born in the City of Torrance, Ca (way back in 1956) a suburb of Los Angeles and L.A. county located within the L.A. basin

I've only been living here in ABQ-Metro since (09/11/01) going on 11 and half yrs. now

Thanks for the history lesson, as you are well awear that my 56 yr old mind can be
very dootie @ times


Hugs

DEN 

[Miss Philicia]

I've only been living here in ABQ-Metro since (09/11/01) going on 11 and half yrs. now

That's long enough to buy a history book.

[Dachshund]

Graduation rates mean little when your standards for grading them are so abysmally low. That's why they end up at some crappy place like Texas State - San Marcos.

How are your teen pregnancy rates?

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/If-this-is-the-deal-Philly-teachers-should-strike.html

[Miss Philicia]

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/If-this-is-the-deal-Philly-teachers-should-strike.html

Have you got a point to make or do you just like slapping links up on the forums?

[Dachshund]

Have you got a point to make or do you just like slapping links up on the forums?

That's rich coming from you Mary. You slap obscure links into any thread where you aren't getting enough attention. It has a valid point that you're more than welcome to shove up your boney ass.

[Miss Philicia]

That's rich coming from you Mary. You slap obscure links into any thread where you aren't getting enough attention. It has a valid point that you're more than welcome to shove up your boney ass.

It's an opinion article, which I did in fact skim -- I just don't understand why you quoted me and then made the link, so I asked. Alas you decided to resort to launch personal attacks.

[Dachshund]

It's an opinion article, which I did in fact skim -- I just don't understand why you quoted me and then made the link, so I asked. Alas you decided to resort to launch personal attacks.

God you can be such a passive aggressive little girl when it suits you. Alas, my ass. Don't worry it won't happen again.

[Ann]

Dox, Miss P, put those sticks down and stop poking each other with them. You're gonna put someone's eye out with those damn things.

[WillyWump]

So cute... like 2 little girls fighting over their dollies ^

Now where were we...let's see...Dingy teeth, little bit of Texas history, token Beiber potshots, Texas education, Sales tax..

I dunno.

Maybe its time to put this thread down.

[mitch777]

Now where were we...let's see...Dingy teeth, little bit of Texas history, token Beiber potshots, Texas education, Sales tax..

I dunno.

Maybe its time to put this thread down.

Awe, c'mon now Wumpy, we haven't even discussed that Steven Colbert's sister is running for office, the leatherback turtles might become extinct in 20 years, or the LATEST "happiest states" list!
http://www.livescience.com/27537-list-happiest-states-2012.html

[WillyWump]

...Dingy teeth,

My apologies to the fair patrons of this thread... Wolfter's Dingy teeth are being discussed in the "Smoking and HIV" thread, not this one. 

[leatherman]

we haven't even discussed that Steven Colbert's sister is running for office

Mitch, let's keep the fighting to Texas and Pennsylvania.

Elizabeth Colbert Busch will be running as a Democrat to fill the seat vacated by Tim Scott  (who was appointed to the U.S. Senate to fill the seat vacated by Jim DeMint) in South Carolina.

[mitch777]

Mitch, let's keep the fighting to Texas and Pennsylvania.

Elizabeth Colbert Busch will be running as a Democrat to fill the seat vacated by Tim Scott  (who was appointed to the U.S. Senate to fill the seat vacated by Jim DeMint) in South Carolina.

but i want to hear the inside story from a gay hiv+ south carolinian.
i like steven and would hope his sister would be a big improvement, but i really don't know anything about her.
(this thread should be retitled "hodgepodge" or "misc.")
it could go on foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.................

[drewm]

Enjoy that State Income Tax

*edited to change "sales tax" to 'Income tax"

No car inspection. Tag fee about $17.00, State Sales Tax 7%. You are taxed Willimeana, they just don't call em taxes.

[WillyWump]

No car inspection. Tag fee about $17.00, State Sales Tax 7%. You are taxed Willimeana, they just don't call em taxes.

 But do they have any fisters in Indiana? Wont you miss that?

[Miss Philicia]

o hai guys!

States with “High Rate” Income Taxes are Still Outperforming No-Tax States

• In reality, states that levy personal income taxes, including the states with the highest top rates, have seen more economic growth per capita and less decline in their median income level over the last ten years than the nine states that do not tax income.
Unemployment rates have been nearly identical across states with and without income taxes.

• Laffer’s claims to the contrary rely on cherry-picking a number of blunt, aggregate measures of economic growth that are closely related to population trends, and incorrectly asserting that tax policy is a leading force behind the migration trends that fuel this
growth. Laffer omits measures like median income growth and state unemployment rates in his comparisons of states with and without income taxes, yet selectively cites these measures in other studies when the story they tell fits his preferred narrative.

• More fundamentally, Laffer’s simplistic analysis fails to account for the fact that states without income taxes often choose not to levy such a tax precisely because they possess unusual economic advantages that allow them to raise revenue (and grow their
economies) in ways that other states cannot. In-state analysts and Laffer himself have correctly observed that factors like natural resources, federal military spending, and even favorable climate contribute to state economic growth. Many of these factors are of great  significance in states without income taxes, but while Laffer mentions them in the text of his reports, he makes no effort to control for them in his quantitative analyses.

[Buckmark]

...
Now where were we...let's see...Dingy teeth, little bit of Texas history, token Beiber potshots, Texas education, Sales tax..

States with “High Rate” Income Taxes are Still Outperforming No-Tax States

If you own a home in Texas, you are essentially paying the same amount in property taxes as a state income tax.  The problem with the Texas property tax system is that it produces uneven results.  Property-rich districts spend far more per pupil than property-poor districts, despite the state's "Robin Hood" law which attempts to even things out.  Public education funding in Texas = fail.

Then there is Texas' obsession with standardized testing in public schools.  Students spend huge amounts of time preparing for standardized tests.  I hear this all the time from my co-workers.  With all that focus, of course they pass the tests, and graduate.  But that doesn't equal a good education. 

Sorry, Wumpy -- Texas can do better.  But I hate to see what our crazy legislature will come up with this session.

[WillyWump]

o hai guys!

States with “High Rate” Income Taxes are Still Outperforming No-Tax States

• In reality, states that levy personal income taxes, including the states with the highest top rates, have seen more economic growth per capita and less decline in their median income level over the last ten years than the nine states that do not tax income.
Unemployment rates have been nearly identical across states with and without income taxes.

• Laffer’s claims to the contrary rely on cherry-picking a number of blunt, aggregate measures of economic growth that are closely related to population trends, and incorrectly asserting that tax policy is a leading force behind the migration trends that fuel this
growth. Laffer omits measures like median income growth and state unemployment rates in his comparisons of states with and without income taxes, yet selectively cites these measures in other studies when the story they tell fits his preferred narrative.

• More fundamentally, Laffer’s simplistic analysis fails to account for the fact that states without income taxes often choose not to levy such a tax precisely because they possess unusual economic advantages that allow them to raise revenue (and grow their
economies) in ways that other states cannot. In-state analysts and Laffer himself have correctly observed that factors like natural resources, federal military spending, and even favorable climate contribute to state economic growth. Many of these factors are of great  significance in states without income taxes, but while Laffer mentions them in the text of his reports, he makes no effort to control for them in his quantitative analyses.

Yawn 

Migration statistics reveal that people are moving in droves to Texas. Why? Jobs and no state income taxes. High earning New Yorkers and Californians can take home between 9% and 11% more of their income by moving to Texas. Every trip down I speak to at least one bitter New Yorker/Californian fed up with high taxes and cost of living.

I wonder if anyone is moving to Pennsylvania?

Then there is Texas' obsession with standardized testing in public schools.  ..  But that doesn't equal a good education. 

Sorry, Wumpy -- Texas can do better.  But I hate to see what our crazy legislature will come up with this session.

This is not unique to Texas, every state has some sort of Standardized test that they are obsessed with ...gotta get that govt money. But yes I agree there is much room for improvement, but we still outrank Pennsylvania.

[buginme2]

Forbes recently listed "The best cities for good jobs."

Four of the top five are in Texas (Seattle was the only non Texas city in the top five, woot woot).

I'm not one who usually speaks highly of the lone star state however, obviously the economy is doing well.  It does make me wonder though, are they attracting all these jobs by offering business low tax rates by slashing social services? 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/02/25/texas-dominates-the-best-cities-for-good-jobs/

[Cliff]

Why all the Texas hate?

Jan, when are you in Texas?

[RapidRod]

Wolf, you just live up the road from me, those farm guys are the best. You can have the large cities. I'll stay in the country. 

[Miss Philicia]

But yes I agree there is much room for improvement, but we still outrank Pennsylvania.

PLEASE STOP LYING ALL OF THE TIME ABOUT ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING

Texas' 2012 SAT Scores

Here are Texas' most recently published SAT scores. How do yours compare?

Critical Reading: 474

Mathematics: 499

Writing: 461

Pennsylvania's 2012 SAT Scores

Here are Pennsylvania's most recently published SAT scores. How do yours compare?

Critical Reading: 491

Mathematics: 501

Writing: 480

[WillyWump]

PLEASE STOP LYING ALL OF THE TIME ABOUT ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING

um Pumpkin I'm just going by the   US DEPT OF EDUCATION'S most recent ranking 

Preliminary data from the U.S. Education Department shows Texas tied with five other states for the third-highest high school graduation rate in the nation


-W 

PS- LMAO. Philly celebrates 60% graduation rate!  Way to go Philadelphia, up from 46% (less than half) just a few years ago! Keep up the Good work!

[Miss Philicia]

That just means that you're grading your students on a curve. SAT scores are, by nature, a level field for comparing students state by state. The fact that you don't realize this is an apt illustration of the disappointing education level of Texans.

ps: and now you're attempting to "move the goalposts" by comparing a city with an entire state. Further proof that you had a lobotomy when you were 12.

[Ann]

PLEASE STOP LYING ALL OF THE TIME ABOUT ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING

Texas' 2012 SAT Scores

Here are Texas' most recently published SAT scores. How do yours compare?

Critical Reading: 474

Mathematics: 499

Writing: 461

Pennsylvania's 2012 SAT Scores

Here are Pennsylvania's most recently published SAT scores. How do yours compare?

Critical Reading: 491

Mathematics: 501

Writing: 480

Pfft. The difference in those numbers is not clinically significant. Everyone knows numbers can fluctuate by as much as 100 points over the course of a single day.

[denb45]

ps: and now you're attempting to "move the goalposts" by comparing a city with an entire state. Further proof that you had a lobotomy when you were 12.

 I've had several lobotomies in my course of life 

and I'm still standing, I do zone-out from time to time 

HUGS

DEN 

[Jeff G]

Pfft. The difference in those numbers is not clinically significant. Everyone knows numbers can fluctuate by as much as 100 points over the course of a single day.

Those numbers mean nothing to those that are of undetectable intelligence .

[Ann]

Those numbers mean nothing to those that are of undetectable intelligence .

[anniebc]

Those numbers mean nothing to those that are of undetectable intelligence .

Good one Jeff, just duck when the missiles start flying ..

Aroha
Jan

[mitch777]

Good one Jeff, just duck when the missiles start flying ..

Aroha
Jan

Jan,
I think you are giving Wumpy too much credit here.
On another thread you mentioned his balls and now missiles.
LMAO!

[Jeff G]

Just so Im understood my little tiny quip wasn't directed at any forum member , ya know .

[drewm]

But do they have any fisters in Indiana? Wont you miss that?

YES YES YES!!!!!! Lovely paws! 

[WillyWump]

ps: and now you're attempting to "move the goalposts" by comparing a city with an entire state. Further proof that you had a lobotomy when you were 12.

Interesting how I didn't make any comparison at all with that figure...I was simply pointing out the sad sad state of education mere blocks form your penthouse. I certainly hope you are doing something to rectify that.