Oral with tongue piercing

[Tropic]

Hi, just wanted to thank everyone who contributes and runs this forum - its so nice to have a reputable site with so much help readily available.

I'm a heterosexual male who met a CSW 2 weeks ago.

- Protected vaginal intercourse
- Unprotected insertive oral (fellatio)
- Unprotected receptive oral (cunnilingus)

Other notes of interest: I have normal oral hygiene and the CSW is actually working as a dental assistant, so also good hygiene. I asked her her std status and she said she was tested 3 months prior with all negative results and that she was generally "very clean".

From what I've dug around, my risk appears to be very low with insertive fellatio only being a theoretical risk, and cunninlingus being a low risk for most stds (right?).

However, I recently came down with flu like symptoms, but they seemed different from what ARS is typically described to be. I had fever, chills, dry cough, runny/stuffed nose. My fever also resolved within 48 hours.

So I have a few questions...

1) Am I correct in assuming that my fast resolution of fever and dry cough, runny/stuffed nose are not typically associated symptoms of ARS? I read that symptoms generally persist on the average of 25 days and mine have more or less abated within 5 (with fever going away first).

2) I have been severely distracted by this entire incident and it is interfering with my daily motivation to work. I know that testing this soon is meaningless, but I just need some sort of reassurance while I wait. Based on what I've said, would you agree with my assessment of a virtual-zero risk of transmission?

[Ann]

Tropic,

You didn't have a low risk, you had NO risk. Neither getting blown nor going down on a woman are risks for hiv infection.

1. You didn't have a risk so whatever was going on was not ARS. It's flu season, you probably had the flu.

2. If you need to test for reassurance (and that's the only reason you might NEED to test concerning this incident) then you should test at six weeks as most people who have actually been infected will test positive by this time.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER THIS SPECIFIC INCIDENT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann

[Andy Velez]

You have no reason to get tested over this recent incident. Nothing you did has put you at risk for HIV. The only confirmed sexual risks for HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. As long as you consistently use condoms for those activities you will be well protected against the virus. Yes, it really is that simple.

If your symptoms persist you should discuss them with your doctor. They have nothing to do with HIV.

Cheers.

[Tropic]

I had an encounter with an escort who claimed to be clean and tested 2 months ago (don't know if this is true or not). She had a lip and a tongue piercing and she gave me an uncovered blowjob (not rough if that makes any difference) which lasted for maybe 30 seconds. We then had protected intercourse with the condom intact and staying on and everything. Nothing else happened.

I know this oral thing has been beaten to death, but does her having a tongue/lip piercing change anything? Do I have an increased risk for HIV? I know that some sources say that recent piercings are increased risk for HIV, and I honestly didn't ask when she had the piercings done. Please advise!

[Andy Velez]

As far as receiving oral sex it does not matter what variations are thrown into the mix. it's one of the most common of sexual acts and in the entire history of the epidemic there has never been a single case of transmission confirmed via receiving oral.

It is safe to say you aren't going to make history by becoming the first. There is no need for testing nor for further concern on your part.

[Ann]

Tropic,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

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As Andy said, you didn't have a risk. Getting a blowjob is not a risk for hiv infection no matter how you slice it.

And by the way, using the word "clean" to describe someone's hiv status is extremely insulting to those of us who are living with hiv. I am hiv positive and I shower every day, thank you very much. I'm clean and I'm poz. Deal with it.

Ann

[Tropic]

This is another encounter, but similar quick question. Had an encounter with a CSW who appeared to be in good health and her location was clean. She wore braces and gave me a blowjob for about a minute. We then had protected vaginal intercourse and that was the end of it.

I didn't see any signs of frank blood or anything like that and she claimed to be negative for STDs and tested 2 months ago. My primary concern are the braces...has that been linked to an HIV risk?

PS. sorry for making another thread

[RapidRod]

You never had an exposure in the situation you've provided.

[Andy Velez]

With our without braces and any other details you throw into the mix about getting oral, there has never been a single confirmed case of transmission to a guy through his having received oral. Not a single one in the entire history of the epidemic. It's safe to say you are not going to make history by becoming the first. You are worrying needlessly.

Get on with your life. There's no need for concern nor for testing. Just keeping a condom everytime for intercourse and you'll be well protected against the sexual transmission of HIV.