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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: GreatLooser777 on July 17, 2006, 01:14:14 pm
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I have tested negative for HIV and all other STD's but recently I have devloped a canker sore in the back of my mouth along with it was a fever and a bit of swolen lymph nodes which are warm to the touch . I have a partner I have been with him for 6 months so far and i dont sleep around with anyone at all but i kiss a lot with my partner and i trust him enough that if we gte physically involved its without protection (which i know is stupid but i tested negative for everything so I am reassured that he is safe ).Care for him so tha last thing i want to is give him anything ...even if it was a regular cold I still wouldnt want to get him sick ...So what could be the problem I dont want to sound like a hypocondriac but i screwed up on my own life ...I dont want to risk someone else's especally the person that i care for and love ....
:'( :'( :'( :'(
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Some important elements are not clear from what you written. Was your HIV test taken at 13 weeks after the most recent unprotected intercourse? If so, then you have reliably tested negative for HIV.
One of the things not clear from what you have written is whether you and your partner are having unprotected intercourse. Safer sex guidelines should always be followed consistently until when and if partners decide they want to be in a securely monogamous relationship and PRIOR to dispensing with condoms for intercourse both get tested together.
HIV is not something to guess about. If you two want to dispense with using condoms that's ok as long as you both test negative together.
Please clarify if I am missing something here.
As to your "symptoms," canker sores are a very common occurence and in no way to be seen as an HIV specific event. But then neither the presence nor the absence of any symptoms is ever the way to know about your HIV status. Only a test taken at 13 weeks can give you that answer definitively.
If your symptoms persist you should discuss them with your doctor.
Cheers,
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Well without getting too into detail I had a previous incounter with someone before i met my new partner in september ..The I met my new partner in december and i started going out with him ...Since i didnt know the previouse status of my partner i got tested in may and came back negative .My partner and i have unprotected intercourse because i reassured him i was negative but now i dont know for sure and iam so scared that i might of screwed up his life and i just dont want to think about that at all..Iam trying to relax but iI am totally freaked out becasue my parents dont know iam with this person . And recently I went to the doctor two weeks ago on Friday which was july 7th and i told her that I wasnt involved with someone for fear my parents would find out ...Coulld this all be stress related or an actual positive result ...It would be very pecular for me to be positive after testing negative after 9 months which is way past the recomended amount of time to test positive for HIV....Iam so confused and worried out of my mind i jsut need reassurance ....
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I'm with Andy on this and completely confused.
So:
1. You are having unprotected sex with current boyfriend.
2. You had unprotected sex with EX-boyfriend in September but tested negative this May.
Based on my assumptions above:
You are negative from Ex boyfriend, conclusively. However you cannot assume your current partner is negative, even if you were in May. He needs to get tested.
You and current partner need full tests and 100% monogamy before you have unprotected intercourse. You could NOT have given your current boyfriend HIV from what you said, however....he could give it to you unless he's tested negative 13 weeks after his last exposure.
Sae.
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HE said he didnt have anything he says he was clean as he had his appendix removed a few years ago and he told me they do all sorts of tests on your body before you have a surgury because they have to know your not sick with anything that would make the surgury life threatening to you ...but now iam not so sure ...should i believe my test results or not becasue I have questioned him many tiems as to his pervious replationships and he says he doesnt have the time to be with other people cause he is busy with work and other responcibilities so i trust him that he is clean .....but all this worries me quite a lot now ....should i just wait six weeks or is that not going to give a conclusive result ....??? or is it possible for me to seroconvert positive after nine months ???
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Yes, SAE has covered the questons very nicely, thanks very much!
You came to your current relationship HIV negative. That's solid. So you can't have given your bf something you don't have. Period.
From what you have described of your situation it does seem there is a lot of emotion and anxiety about your private life vis-a-vis your parents and the outside world. That would certainly explain what appears to me to be a lot of unfounded worry.
You also ought to be clear with your doctor about professional privacy or get yourself another doctor whom you can be comfortable discussing anything you need to.
Until your boyfriend tests negative the insertive partner should be using condoms for intercourse. Period.
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OK. You're missing the point here and as a separate issue you need to stop using the word "clean" to refer to either his status or yours. People who are HIV+ are not "dirty." They are people with a virus. That's an important difference.
Your boyfriend maybe a fine fellow and he may very well be accurate about his HIV status. But HIV is not something to guess about. If he's been sexually active prior to your relationship and it sounds as if he has, then a long ago possible test when he had his appendix out doesn't cut it with me. He should get tested now to confirm that he is HIV negative.
You seem to be in a mindset where only you could possibly be carrying the virus when you are the one who has tested negative. What's going on here? Are you hungry to be at fault in some way?
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No but i dont want to be ....thats my worry I dont want to be at fault ...I know i tested negative but i have symptoms of swolen lymph nodes now and i dont know where the heck they come from i didnt have them prior to my doctors visit only when i saw him a week ago on monday when this all happened ....thats why iam freaking out ...I made the mistake of looking up my symptoms for the swolen lymph nodes over the net and everything pointed to HIV....and that is where i freaked I know it wasnt right of me to do that but still how can i be reassured my HIV test was and still is Negative and not somehow after 9months somehow become positive ....thats my question .....I know i can trust my partner but i want to stop freaking out for no apparant reason including everyone here .......
PS: sorry for using the wrong teminology .......I didnt mean to .....
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Neither doubts, fears nor swollen lymph nodes invalidate your negative test result.
Actually despite your protestations about being certain of your partner's negative status, his status is the only unknown factor in the situation. He's the one who has not been tested recently. And no, either you or he simply insisting he's negative is not the same as valid, current negative result.
He should get tested and you should stop driving yourself crazy. No kidding.
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You are right .....but how do i go telling him this ? I already bug him about a million other things ....I havent mentioned to him my ex but i told him I am negative for all STD"S and HIV. I know I must be getting redundant and i thank you for your patience ....This is why I am never going to be with anyone ever again ...but give me some advice on what i should tell him and how i should go about things so he doesnt seem like i am accusing him of things ....and what if i should mention my ex at this moment ....would my negative status still reassure him that I am alright or should i get tested again if he gets confused or worried.Sorry for being annoying i dont mean to but this is all new to me ......
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How about just taking a deep and slow breath in right now and then letting it out slowly. I'm not kidding. Do it now.
You are way too worked up for your mind to be thinking clearly and you need to do that good deep and slow breathing everytime you start getting anxious.
Your remarks and questions seem to come out of a mindset that thinks it's wrong or insulting of you to want to be certain your bf is HIV negative. How about just saying, you have some concerns about HIV even though you have tested negative. Would he willing to get tested with you -- both of you doing it together. If he says yes, great. If he says no then tell him you hope he will be understanding, but that until you do the test together you will want to use condoms for having intercourse.
I can't predict what his response will be. But as far as I am concerned anyone who's not willing to cooperate regarding getting tested and/or using condoms is not my idea of a good bf, lover, friend or other. And this has nothing to do with your ex. This is strictly between you two today. So don't complicate it by throwing in something that has nothing to do with your present situation.
This is just basic stuff 25 years into the epidemic which we are all living with.
Take your guilt out of the equation. It has no place in this situation.
No kidding.
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OK thanks ...Your where of great help ......but what should I do bout my lymph nodes ..they still havent gone down .....i think it could be a result of my wisdom teeth comminig in most likely i wil have to call my dentist to find out ....I appologize for all the panic and confusion but aim sure your understand my concren greatly .....Thanks for all the advice and reassurance ...
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If its not HIV what could it be ?
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"If it's not HIV what could it be?" That's a question you need to discuss with your doctor. We can't diagnose you in this setting nor could anyone responsibly do so.
What's important to know is that it does not by default become an HIV situation simply because you haven't yet had a proper diagnosis or because your anxious mind is telling you it's HIV.
Go see a doctor.
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Thank you for the advice its greatly appreceated it eased my mind somewhat .....looks like I will wait untill september to get tesed again for HIV just to be sure .Is testing at 6 weeks still legetimate or no ?
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JUst one question does a regular doctors visit when you get checked up yearly do they test for all blood borne stuff ? My doc just e-mailed me to tell me everything was clear .......Can i stop worrying now ??..Iam not worried anymore but I just asked out of sheer curiosity ....thanks you guys for all your help and patience with this matter
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IS it possible to be serocordant after being negative for nine months .This stems from my previous thread in which i needed advice .
are the symptoms i am experencing right now jsut out of anxiety ?. I have swolen lymph nodes but no sore throat , they aren't painful to the touch .
I had a white tounge even on my being negative .i jsut dont know what is going on ....i hate sounding like a hypocondriac but Iam involved with someone right now ...I used to be involved in a perivious relation before my new one ...I fooled around with my ex and we went our seprate ways .then I met my new partner in december and we fooled around and i got tested nine months after my first partnet and got tested negative .....is this legetimate ? could there have been a false negative ?..i dont want to have to worry anymore ...and being constantly on this forum doesnt help much..i recently learned from my primary physician that my lab work came back also negative but do they test for blood borne diseases ?..I jsut dont know what to do anymore . Am i going out of my mind or legetimaly freaking out. what do I do PLEASE HELP. also is six weeks a legetamate tiem to get test for HIV antibodies ?[ Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh
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Great,
You need to stop and get a hold of yourself. You are in the midst of a major panic attack, and one that is NOT grounded in reality. Basically, you aren't making sense.
You were negative before your new boyfriend. Accept that and stop the rest of your mental gymnastics. Nevermind what you did or didn't do none of it matters.
The answer to the rest of your questions and panic is no on the stuff where you think you are positive, and YES on the stuff where you sort of accept you are negative.
Get a hold of yourself. Perhaps stay off the site until you can calm down because this attack you are in has nothing to do with HIV. Only your current boyfriend needs a test and that's it. The rest is low self image and lower self esteem.
Sae.
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I was last with my partner on july 10th is it legetamate to get tested at six weeks ....but from my pervious test would the results be conclusive or shouls I just wait and see.PELASE HELP !!!!
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Great,
As the vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks, a negative result at that time would be a very good indication of your true status.
You and your partner need to test TOGETHER before you continue having unprotected intercourse. You cannot know his true hiv status through YOUR test results.
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse without testing together first is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.
Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
I've locked the second thread you started. Please keep all your additional thoughts and questions in this thread. I also locked your poll. Ask your questions directly, please.
Ann
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Can I be somewhat reassured to know that my partner is ok from being with me since i tested negative ?
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Great,
The only thing you can be reassured about in this situation is that you could not have transmitted hiv to him. However, that tells you nothing about HIS status. For all you know, he may be hiv positive and not know himself. You cannot tell a person's hiv status by looking at them, or by what you think you know about their history or what they assume about their hiv status. ONLY testing will give you the answers you seek.
Hiv status is nothing to assume or guess about. Get tested together or use condoms. To do anything else is to risk hiv infection.
Ann
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oh my ...........but how do I tell him ...I keep bringing this up in e-mails and he got annoyed about it ...
I know I might be a bit of a hypocondriac but still he told me not to call him today becasue i annoyed him so much about it ..
It seems to me like he is hiding something and wont tell me ....should i mention my ex ? or no ?I dont think I should mention my ex because it will put strain on an already somewhat unstable situation ....He keeps reassuring me he doesnt sleep around with people and his status is fine and i believed him .....I am just at a loss for words .....I hope everything comes out alright at testing at 6 weeks .Would the test be acuurate at 6 weeks or should i wait untill the whole 13 to be extra sure the test is and was negative ......
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Great,
Your ex has nothing to do with this situation. You were hiv negative going into your current relationship. You need to get yourself tested and use condoms until such time as your partner has also tested. You can tell him "either test or we use condoms". If he refuse to do the right thing where your health as well as his is concerned, then maybe it's better to know now.
Testing is the only way to know his status and until you know his status, you should be using condoms. Period.
Ann
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that is great to know .....but i cant get in contact with him ....he told me to give him some time to think striaght i think I might of scared him.....I didnt mean to .....I am jsut worried and concered as i should be .i know it wasnt right to constantly annoy him about it but iam jsut at witts end and I dont mean to be driving anyone crazy here as well .Is ther any other way to find out if I am HIV positive or not quicker then 13 weeks ?
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PS: My father didnt make the situation any better by sayin" Youd dont have HIV so stop freaking out " i didnt tell him about my partner but my parents know that i was fraking out about my swolen lymphs and everything ....so that didnt help much ...gee thanks dad
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Great,
As you were already told, a test at six weeks would be an excellent indication of your status.
Ann
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Ok can we call this a lbeating a dead horse ?? Since I have been reassured I didnt unwilingly give something to my partner and that checking at 6 weeks is legit and that there was no possible way i could be serodiscordant after 9months .Do the outcomes of my new test results look good or not ....and that is my last question
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Thanks to everyone who helped me out here Your advice was the best .any other advice i should be given before i get off of here for good ?
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Still worried what should i Do .....arggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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What to dooooooo
??? ??? going crazy by the moment ...
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I am still a bit worried about all of this .What do you guys recomend that i should do to ease my mind?.I have always had a slender face and now I think its getting worst ....should I just chill oout ??
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Looser,
Getting all worked up about this isn't doing you any good. Yes, you need to chill out. Keep yourself productively busy until it is time to test. All the worry in the world will not change your test results - and frankly, I'm expecting a negative.
Ann
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Thanks for all your support and advice Andy And Ann you guys where a great help to me .Having a b/f is all new to me and i care deeply for him as you can see .I already messed up my life on my own . I just cant risk it with someone else's . I am sure it will come out negative again at least i hope so .....Thanks for putting up with me .....
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Glad you found the exchanges to be helpful. Get on with your life and make sure you consistently use condoms if you're having intercourse.
Cheers,
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One last question before i sign off ? How do I know my test was reliable ......I dont want it to be a fals negative as i trusted these tests..please help....
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PLEASE HELP ......I know I tested negative but i want to know if the test is reliable at all ...
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Loser,
Your test was reliable as long as it was done 12-13 weeks after your last unprotected encounter. If you were already having unprotected intercourse with your current boyfriend when you had it done, then you were still in a window period.
Ann
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That doesnt sound very reassuring ....I just told him I was negative .... :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Loser,
If you tested 12-13 weeks after the last unprotected encounter with your previous boyfriend, then you were hiv negative going into your new relationship.
However, as we do not know the status of your current boyfriend, and if you tested after you were having unprotected intercourse with him, then you were in a new window period with your current boyfriend.
I hope you are now using condoms with your current boyfriend until he gets tested.
Ann
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i have a prickleing sensation in my arms ....if i tested negative for HIv I am nto as panicked as i was so i calmed down conciderably ..but this is happening now ...All the blood test where alright according to my doctor ...If there was somethgin wrong with my blood wouldnt they call me back ?..What is all of this nonsense going on in my body ....
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Loser,
We can't tell you what is going on with your body. Only a doctor can.
I can tell you this though - the extra muscle tension caused by prolonged anxiety can cause the tingling sensations you are experiencing. Only your doctor can tell you if this is the cause in your case. Go see your doctor.
Ann
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I am just worried for the most part that somehow my test was a false negative...I was with my ex in setember adn we broke it off i Didnt get tested during that time IN .december i met my new partner and we where foolinh around untill may when i got tested and came out negative.I want to trust the results wholeheartidly....but now I dont know PLEASE HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PLEASE HELP READ MY ABOVE POST
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PLEASE HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Get tested again at the required time and seek out a mental health professional for your worries.
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BUt what happens if this isnt correct now.... should it be the same or has my status changed
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First of all stop with the "what ifs." A test taken at the correct time WILL be conclusive. No "what ifs and or buts."
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but was the last one conclusive or not my status was negative ...
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What was the date of your LAST unprotected sex? How long ago was your LAST test?
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It happened in september with my ex and I didnt get tested untill may with my new partner ...I remember having to go back to the clinic june 8th 2006 cause I got tested for STD's and those came back clear but to be sure I took them again ...
I have to wait a week for them ...
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Your test result is conclusive. You're NEGATIVE.
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ok thats good but next time read my story above I am really conered..although i had negative results ...i recently got my blood work done from my doctor andshe said everything was fine ...on a regular Compleate Blood Count test ....if ther was a drop ion red blood cells or white bllood cells most importantly wouldthey know there would be somethgin wrong with me ?
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Great,
Have protected sex from now on and you'll no longer be cornered. Condoms are excellent protection from hiv infection. Use them every time until you are in a securely monogomous relationship where you have BOTH tested negative for all STI's.
Morgan
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good advice ....so true .... but yet look at me and where i am .....I though I could trust those results and i reassured my partner but what happens now if they werent at all what they where ...i jsut cant even think of it right now .....i am going to log off here for a bit until i can get tsted again ...everyone keep your fingers and toes crossed for ....I am sure everything will be fine but the freak otu is legetimate and serious ...
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Helllllpppppp
Sorry for being so crazy but this is life or death (literally)
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Great,
Alright, stop with the drama. Crying wolf will just create a situation where no one will take you seriously. Your "life and death" situation is centered on your relationship with this new guy who is apparently blowing you off rather than taking your concerns seriously.
Re-read the advice you've been given in this thread, and make a decision on a course of action.
In your best interest,
Morgan
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Ok so what do you guys think I should do ? tell me so i can wiat teh appropreate time and just take it easy for now .....
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Loser,
As you do not use punctuation, readable grammar, or paragraphs, your posts are difficult to follow. Here's what I've pieced together - and if any of it is wrong, say so.
I'm interested in the time-line here, NOT the intimate details. The only relevant detail is the fact that you do not use condoms for anal intercourse with your current partner.
You broke up with your ex in Sept 2005.
You got with your current partner in December 2005.
(You do not use condoms with your current partner.)
You tested hiv negative in May 2006.
Now, the advice:
Your negative result in May means that you are conclusively negative from the date of your test, back three months to the same date in February.
So, if you tested May 15, consider yourself hiv negative on February 15th and BEFORE February 15th.
However, because you do NOT use condoms with your current partner, are in a new window period.
You need to test 12-13 weeks after the last time you had unprotected anal intercourse with your CURRENT partner, or any one else you may have had intercourse with since February. Don't count oral and don't count intercourse with a condom.
You need to test 12-13 weeks after your last experience of unprotected intercourse.
You should be using condoms until BOTH of you have tested negative. If you test negative again after this window period, it does NOT tell you the hiv status of your partner. Only a test done on HIM will tell you his hiv status.
Test at the appropriate time. Both of you.
Ann
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If i tested anything after may 15th is it legetimate as well ....
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Loser,
The only thing your May 15th hiv test tells you is that you were definitely hiv negative on February 15 and BEFORE February 15th.
As you have been having unprotected intercourse with your current boyfriend, you do not know your current hiv status because you do not know if you partner is hiv negative or hiv positive.
You need to test 12-13 weeks after your last incident of unprotected intercourse with your current partner, and you need to start using condoms with your current partner until you know HIS status through HIS current test. Only if you are BOTH hiv negative can you stop using condoms.
I hope that is clear.
Ann
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but how would you know i tested before may 15th .....Idont have the dates written down cause i threw everything out so my parents wouldnt find it .....but i remeber going back to the clinic june 8th to get the final results .but I will call the clinic to find otu the correct dates ...if you will like so we can discuss this for the very last time and i can stop annoyiing you guys and driving myself ok ? If i got tested after may 15th would it still be ok that is my main question ?
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Loser,
No. Because you have been having unprotected intercourse with someone whose hiv status is unknown, you only know that you were negative in February.
I picked May 15th because you said you were tested in May but didn't give the date. The exact date doesn't matter - I only used that date to illustrate what I was saying.
You do not know your partner's hiv status. As you have been having unprotected intercourse with him since February, if he is hiv positive, you could have been infected by him anytime between February and now. You only know that you WERE hiv negative sometime in February and BEFORE.
You need to test 12-13 week after your LAST unprotected intercourse, no matter who it was with. You do not currently know your hiv status as you have been having unprotected intercourse with a person whose hiv status you do not know.
You and your partner BOTH need to test. Until you BOTH test, you need to use condoms.
Ann
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wait so my pervious partner is not HIV - ??? or he is but not my new partner ...
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You can not base your Ex's status on YOUR test. He would have to test. Your new partner and you should be tested at the same time.
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Loser,
Your previous partner's hiv status is unknown. You came out of that relationship hiv negative, regardless of what your previous partner's hiv status was.
Your CURRENT partner's hiv status is UNKNOWN. This is why you are in a new window period. You need to test for any unprotected intercourse since February.
You need to test 12-13 weeks after your LAST unprotected intercourse with your CURRENT partner. He needs to test - even if you again test negative. You cannot know HIS status by YOUR test results.
Ann
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so former partner negative new partner unknown ....
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Loser,
Your former partner's hiv status is UNKNOWN.
Your current partner's hiv status is UNKNOWN.
YOUR hiv status is UNKNOWN.
YOU and your CURRENT PARTNER BOTH must test 12-13 weeks after the last time you had unprotected intercourse. ONLY THEN WILL YOU KNOW YOUR STATUS OR YOUR PARTNER'S STATUS. YOU BOTH MUST TEST.
Ann
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Ok first you tell me its legetimate then you tell me its not what is it because this worries me know even more then it used to ....If i got tested negative in may is it negative or not
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in other words if i tested negative in may after my pervious partner I am HIv negative ?
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wqell if had sex with my Ex and i came out negative isnt he negative since i had sex with him.If he was positive i would be positive isnt that right ...Soooo...If my ex is negative and i have sex with him he is negative ther is no way he could have given me HIV if i tested negative ....i dont doubt your answer guys ..but it worries me now that it has changed ....You guys said i was legit with my testing now I dont know and i am not so sure now ....well ther goes the agony of telling my partner he is in fact HIV poz...
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No, that is incorrect. Even if he was positive doesn't mean that you'll be positive. Continuing to have unprotected sex will most likely gain you the gift of being infected.
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Ok that doesnt make any sense .If that was corred how come i wasnt infected .Why do u think the HIV epidemic has gotten this far as it has ...uqestion if he was positive then how come I didnt test positive for HIV .... doest it tell you that you got it from the person you slept with if you tested positive wouldnt that indicate the status of the person you where with ...i was just with my current b/f and my ex and that is all i dont sleep around with people .Ok rapid rod when you say even if he was positive and i got out ok how come that is ? wouldnt I be poz as well from him ? if it was like that I am sure no one would ever have to deal with this horrible disease ..... I am sorry for being rude i dont mean to but this hits hard home for me as i recently had to burry my friend as he died of an AIDS related illness so this has all gotten me confused and I appologize for being rude or disrespectful i just want to know the straight deal ....tell me the truth that is what i need and I am asking ...
You cant jsut become positive out of nowhere it takes someone else ...So I dont understand how you can say that you cant go by the results of your test ....If i was poz (god forbid)i would of had gotten it from my current partner (god forbid) which means that he was HIV poz
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Great,
Focus on the way testing works.
Anytime you test for hiv, because of the window period, it only tells you your status 3 months prior to the test date.
So if you tested on May 15 (as an example), your result tells you your conclusive status as of Feb 15. Understand??
So any sexual activity following that 3 month prior date (again for example Feb 15), would not be covered by that test.
If you've been having unprotected sex within that "window" (the 3 months prior to a given test), you will need to test again 3 months after the new given exposure.
Is this making sense???
Unless you know conclusively that the person you have "been" with is hiv negative (through testing at the APPROPRIATE time), then your status is thrown into question.
Morgan
Morgan
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Loser,
Exposure to hiv does not necessarily mean infection.
For example. My partner and I were together for a year and a half, having unprotected intercourse, BEFORE we found out I was hiv positive. We didn't know for a whole eighteen months of our relationship that I was hiv positive.
He tested NEGATIVE, despite repeated exposures. Although he didn't get infected in that first year and a half of our relationship, he could become infected the very next time we had unprotected intercourse, so we no longer do that. We use condoms now and he remains hiv negative.
For all you know, your current partner might be hiv positive and not know, just like I didn't know. If he is positive, and you continue to have unprotected intercourse with him, you will eventually become positive too. BUT, it might not happen right away.
The ONLY thing you can know from your test results so far is that you were negative when you met your new partner, and you were negative up until some time in February 2006.
You and your partner BOTH need to test 12-13 weeks after your last unprotected act of intercourse together.
I think the misunderstanding has come from your belief that one exposure will guarantee infection. It does not work like that. It might be the first time you are exposed, or it might be the 100th time you are exposed. Stop taking this chance.
You need to use condoms until you and your partner - your current one, or anyone in the future - have tested negative TOGETHER.
Ann
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Well as lolng as I came into the relationship HIV negative I am ok for now ...my main concern was unwilligly passing it on to him ..or fearing that I did if the test results where wrong ....Dont they usally say it takes one expouser to get HIV?? .Now this isnt making any sense.. if that wasnt the case how come people get sick with the disease after there first time expousure even some experts say you can get infected fter the first time ....that is what happened to my good friend .....but also ann ..thats what I needed to know that my status was ok before i met my new partner.... that was my main conern i trust him wholeheartidly and he trusts me ...I trusted the results fully but now I am begining to doubt them now and its scary...as long as i came into the relationship HIV negative I am alright
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Loser,
You CAN get infected the first time. Just because you CAN doesn't mean you WILL. It might happen the first time, or it might happen the 100th time you have unprotected intercourse with an hiv positive person.
You are NOT alright for now. You do NOT know your current partner's hiv status.
You do NOT know YOUR CURRENT hiv status. You ONLY know your hiv status during and BEFORE February 2006.
I'm at a loss as to how to make this any clearer.
You AND your partner need to test.
You AND your partner need to use condoms until you have BOTH tested negative - TOGETHER.
Ann
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So i know my status from my pervious partner ? which was negative ... from september to feb.current partner unknown .....which means my status is unknown as well as of right now
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Loser,
You DO NOT KNOW your previous partner's hiv status. You CANNOT know someone else's hiv status through YOUR test. He might have been hiv positive and you just didn't become infected.
You also DO NOT KNOW your CURRENT partner's hiv status. If he does turn out to be positive, he got it from someone other than you, because you were hiv negative when you started this current relationship.
If he is hiv negative, you have no worries. HOWEVER. Just because you tested negative does NOT mean that he is too. Re-read my post where I talked about my own situation.
As you do not know for CERTAIN that your current partner is hiv negative, you need to do one of two things.
1. Both get tested together so you can actually see for yourself what HIS test result is. This is the only way to know HIS hiv status. Testing is the only way to know hiv status. He might be hiv positive and not know, just like I didn't know - until I tested.
2. If your partner will not test, then you MUST use condoms with him. Your health is nothing to mess around with.
Ann
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this really worries me now .....I will sjut get tested with in six weeks..if it comes otu negative then I will test in september when it will be 3 months ....You guys have went from being reassuring to really getting me extremly worried now ....But i sitll cant understand why you cant know your partners status through your test it jsut doesnt make any sense to me at all ...
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I don't know how to make the answer any simpler for you. I found the answers self explanatory. YOU DON'T ALWAYS BECOME INFECTED EVEN IF THE PERSON IS POSITIVE. YOU LUCKED OUT...
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maybe i did ...my mother always said I had damn good luck ....too much good luck ......so can i stop worrying for right now ?
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Loser,
If my partner and ONLY my partner had tested for hiv, I would not know that I am hiv positive. He managed to remain hiv negative despite having unprotected intercourse with me for a year and a half. He was lucky. He COULD have become infected - and he still CAN - but only if we were to continue having unprotected intercourse. We don't. We use condoms now.
Live isn't always black and white. Your partner could be hiv positive REGARDLESS of what your own test results are.
Unless your partner ALSO tests for hiv and test negative for hiv, you MUST use condoms when having intercourse with him.
YOU CANNOT KNOW ANOTHER PERSON'S HIV STATUS GOING BY YOUR OWN TEST RESULTS. HIV TESTS ONLY REVEAL THE STATUS OF THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE TEST.
Use condoms with your partner until he tests - and tests negative.
You can stop worrying (and using condoms) when your PARTNER ALSO TESTS HIV NEGATIVE and only then.
Ann
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well that brings me to this last question ....I tested HIv negative so is that the correct status for me or no ?....if its not then I am totally screwed (no pun intended)
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Have you had unprotected sex with your new partner? If so the answer is NO. You'll need to test again at 12/13 weeks past the last unprotected sex.
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well i knwo form my previous partner that I tested HIV negative .My current partner I dont know his status ....but i relied on my negative result from my previous partner and i reassured my current boyfriend that it is 100 % negative and accuratly done ...Now iam jsut in aconstant worry because i am getting two differnt things from people ...maybe myworry has caused all this confusion and i appologize ...Is there any way that you can test for HIv quicker then 13 weeks ? maybe like the PRC test or ELISA?
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Loser,
A test at six weeks will be a very good indication of your hiv status but must be confirmed at 12-13 weeks.
An ELISA test is the standard test for hiv. It is what you would have used already. PCR testing is NOT approved for diagnostic purposes. Get an ELISA done at six weeks past your last unprotected encounter.
Unless your current partner also gets tested and tests negative, you MUST use condoms with him REGARDLESS of what YOUR test results are.
Please get your partner to test.
Ann
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ok so clear my mind for good at least for now ....Am I HIv negative from pervious partner conclusivly ?.my new partner needs to get tested with me ..and iam trying to get him down to hte clinic but we will see.I do trust somewhat my pervious negative result as I took the rapid test in a Dept of health and mental hygene clinic .....I recently went back to get retested for STD's.I read havung STD's increses your chance of aquiering HIV but since i dont have any (or didnt at thte time) what would my chances of being HIV positive from my pervious partner ?and what are the chances of me having already given it to my partner ? :(.I hate this question it makes my heart sink into my stoamch but i must as k it
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Loser,
Yes, you are conclusively negative from your last partner.
Yes, you do need to get your current partner to test.
If he refuses to test, you MUST use condoms with him.
You could NOT have given hiv to your current partner, because you were hiv negative when you started this relationship and you said you have not been with anyone else since your previous partner.
The question mark is hanging over your current partner. If he tests negative, you have no worries.
If he refuses to test, you cannot know his true hiv status and so you must use condoms.
Ann
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ok then I am sorry for everything .....my confusion and worry must of confused you as well as the other moderators reading this thread and I appologize ....On a more personal note i recently burried my close friend he died of AIDS related causes ....I wish no one has to go through what he and countless of other people are going through right now ...I do hope they find a cure for this ...And they recently found the monkey that carried the supposed HIV strain that somehow might of jumped to humans ..This virus had to come from somewhere ....I do believe it came from an animal but that discussion is for a later time ....I jsut want to thank all of the mods of this forum board who have helped me out I am sorry for being a pain in the A@@ but this subject matter that we are dealing with hits home for me and MANY others ....but I just cant risk someone's life i already made stupid mistakes and suffered the consequences on my own I dont want another person to suffer cause of me ....This is the reason why I dont sleep around with people ....After I broke up with my ex in september I havent been with anyone else before i met my new partner in december ......I am not like that this is a day and age where Sex is deadly (no pun)..its not a beautiful and sacred act as it once was .....making love to your partner should be stress free .....I am NOT SAYIN AT ALL to have unprotected sex ..either have sex protected or dont at all .I made the stupid mistake of having unprotected sex with my ex and i got out ok ...and now i am making the same mistake again because my new p[artner says he is clean and i TRUST HIM .....he was honest with me since the begining .....my first fear in posting this message was somehow the tests came back a false negative and that i had HIV .....I was so worried for the safety of my partner because I told him my status was alright ....and we had unprotected sex that day ..He has a lot of family responcibilites ....everyone depends on him..So I jsut cant take that risk.My mind is at ease for now knowing that I tested conclusivly negative from my ex thats teh most important thing knowing that i came into my new relationship HIV negative is reassuring ...I know I am supposed to be worried about my safety as well .but if your going to have sex you might as well be responcible and get tested .....So far I have twice ....once i got tested for HIV and STD's in which I came back negative and cause I freaked out again( go fiigure) I got retested last friday and I am waiting for teh results .....So those should be negative as well ...Ann,RapidRod and Andy I am so sorry for all of this but i have to be sitting shiva for my friend soon so being on these boards really breaks my heart ...because my friend 's sister her family and i where at the hospital when he died .....According to jewish tradition he had to be burried within 24 hours of his death .i miss him terribly. Ann,Rapidrod ,Andy I am so sorry for bogging you down with this ....you guys are truly heroes ...i knwo i will test negative again but since i am under stess as a result of all this my mind likes to paly jokes on me and make me stressed out even more ...i will let you guys know how things go i am sure it will be alright .....Thanks for all your help and sorry for the long post but i jsut had to get all of this emotions out ..i knwo you guys dont need it but thanks for hearing me out ...
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If you keep basing your status on what some one said theirs was, I will guarantee you that if you continue to keep having unprotected sex you are going to become HIV positive. You can not rely on what someone tells you, or how they look.
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Loser,
The concern here isn't that you infected your current partner, but that your current partner MIGHT infect YOU.
I understand that you trust him when he claims to be hiv negative and I'm not accusing him of lying about his status. I'm saying that unless he has tested himself, he doesn't actually know his hiv status.
You need to be using condoms with him until you have both tested hiv negative.
Please accept my condolences over the loss of your friend.
Ann
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So my fear of him getting HIv from me is nonexsistant ....but the fear of him infecting me is absolutly real.So I should stop worrying if I infected him but worry if he infected me ?
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There is no reason after 92 posts that you don't understand. If you REALLY don't understand go to your ASO and get the answers.There is really no reason for you to keep asking the same questions over and over again unless you are wanting to see your thread hit the 100 mark.
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thanks for telling me what i needed to know .....i can be calm for now untill i get tested in 6 weeks in august 26th ......if it comes otu negative then I will test at 3 months to be extra sure ....Thanks you guys for your help and support ....btw what is ASO ?
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Loser,
Your second to last post (Reply #92) is correct. You've finally got it.
ASO stands for AIDS Service Organisation.
Good luck with your testing, and don't forget to be using condoms with your current partner until you have BOTH tested negative.
Ann
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ok now i can breathe a sigh of relief knowing that my partner is ok from me ......good... thanks for bearing with me and dealing with my drama ...Ann,Rapidrod and Andy you guys all get hugs from me
XOXOXOXOXOX HUGS AND KISSES ....you guys asre the best ....thanks so much for the reassurance and patience
if you will like do any of you guys live in the NYC area maybe we can go get some iced coffee ?
how about it ? and if not I can always go alone ....its quite alright as well
keep up the great work ....and thank s for your undivided patience .....
;D ;D ;D
Sorry for all the drama and confusion now you can help those who need it the most.....
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Just a question is it possible to have a false negative HIV result ? or is it more False positive ....??
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Loser,
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.
If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.
Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines.
Thank you for your cooperation.
False negatives do not happen outside the window period. Strictly speaking, false negative do not happen. It is more a case of someone testing too early.
Ann
Ann
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remember when i got tested negative in may ,,,,,,,now i came up with a dry cough ..along with my kidney infection and all that other mess....and i recently came out with red lesions on my arms but they have seem to went away ....I trusted these results wholeheartidly with my boyfriend (now ex) and now what am i going to do ....The fear has resurfised again ..I dont know anyone in my family who has an autoimune disease.. what happens if i gave my ex HIV and i told him i didnt ....maybe all this stress is playing games on my body as well..this is all too much for me right now to handle a kidney infection i can handle ..my doc says my c4 levels where ok ....Usually isnt that what they check for when you have HIV?..What do i do iam really heartbroken as of right now ...What happens if i do have HIV ...Iam really heartbroken ann..I read up on Karposi's sarcoma nad they said that one u get it the bumps dont go away they are just less visible mine barly show on my skin now ...and they turned white when i pressed a glass to the spots..normally they dont blance when pressure is applied..i sitll have this annoying white tounge which hasnt gone away ...and it was weird i had it when i got tested negative in may or it could be the kissing disease since i did kiss my partner A LOT ..I hate being a bother but this worries me quite a lot cause how am i going to explain to my ex that the tests werent right i trusted those results wholeheartidly becasue i thought they where eally acurative .....I got tested at the right time i wasnt with another when i broke up with my ex partner....in september ...*sigh* I am jsut going to stop right now and jsut relax i have been alright up untill this point ..it has to be the stress getting to me
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Good bye. I hope you seek out a mental health professional to explain to you what we have tried. You've hit you hundredth post and that is enough for anyone. We can be of no further assistance to you.
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sorry to bump up this thread again ....but I amstill a bit worried as you can see....I couldnt sleep for hte past few days since it was so horrible ...I know youcant base symptoms that youhave to HIV diagonosis ....But i took a test in may and came out negative for both STD's and HIV..since ifreaked tou again I got retested recently and gotted negative on STD's but I didnt take the HIV test casue I have to wait ....What happens if this time around it isnt right ? i trusted these results wholeheartidly as i was seeing my partner ..I want him to goand get tested with me but how do i tell him this ... ? I tried to but he got very annoyed with me ....and i have to give him a few days to chill out and reground but how should i tell him this ? i hate being a bother and bumping up this thread once again but i need some positive reassurance so i can stop driving myself ...my partner ....my parents and myself crazy .....
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Read over your 101 posts, nothing is going to change no matter what you are going to add.
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Holy crap. Two pages! Um, congrats.
I cannot imagine anything more that could possibly be relevant to this thread. Except. Man. Wow.
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I said I appologized for the bumping up of the thread ...I just need advice on what to do for the LAST TIME ...staying on the computer really messed with my mind and its making me go a little bit insaine ....especally with the issue of HIV/AIDS and STD"s regarding me and my partner ....its too much so if any mod wants just PM me insted K ?
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Look Loser,
You have been told time and time again that you tested conclusively for your earlier concerns. The problem here isn't you giving your boyfriend hiv, it's the possibility of him giving it to YOU. If you've had unprotected intercourse with him since your last test, you are in a new window period and need to test again.
Until your boyfriend also tests, you need to use condoms with him. You cannot possibly know HIS status going by YOUR test results.
Re-read your thread again and again until it sinks in, ok?
Ann
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Still freaking out a bit ....please one of the mods jsut kindly PM me I need some desprate reassurance right about now becasue i am just under so much anxiety and stress its unbelivable ....
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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
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see the thing is i had sex with my ex in december of 2005 before i met my new partner ....I met my new partner had sex with him tested negative in may of 2006..i am paranoid that the test came out inconclusive . My partner says he doesnt have time for Gf's cause he is so busy at the time .right now we arent together anymore but i am just so worried i didnt do the testing the right way and got a false result ....*sigh* what do i do ..When i went to get my urine and blood samples checked out by the doctor for my UTI they said my C4 levels where ok but isnt that checked out during a normal Complete blood count test ?...cause i retuned all normal on those tests ...they didnt see a decrese in anything .....This is the last time i am going to freak out i promise ... I know 30 days isnt really a reliable time to get tested again but i need to quiet my fears ....but waiting alone will make it worst for me it would be like reliving it the first time around in may when i got it done .....Ann iam so sorry for this ...i hate bugging everyone here with my worries but I jsut dont know what to do right now ......My boyfriend didnt know i was with someone perviously because i got tested and told him my results ......now i dont know what to Do
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Loser,
I give up. I've tried time and time again to explain to you that you tested conclusively negative from your contact with your ex boyfriend. You need to test again because of your current boyfriend (well, current ex) because you don't know HIS status. As you are no longer together, you will need to test 12-13 weeks after your last unprotected intercourse with him.
When was the last time you had unprotected intercourse with this last guy in your life? You need to test 12-13 weeks from that date. No ands, ifs or buts about it.
You really need to start using condoms for intercourse, no exceptions unless you and he - whoever he may be - have tested TOGETHER.
Ann
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july 10th ......I really do appologize but I have turned into a bit of a hypochondriac ....and i need to chill ...thanks for putting up with me ann ......I am going to get retested on friday for HIV and STD's although i came back negative for STD's again recently ....I really do appologize ..I am never again being in a relationship with anyone .....Its just going to be me ,myself and I ....if ya know what i mean ahahahahahahahah.. sorry for Pissing everyone off here ....wasnt my intention too but if you gonna be an adult you might as well be responcible like one and do the right thing .....also this hits me close home because I had a very close friend of mine die of AIDS and he made me promise i would never have to deal with this horrible condition .....But alas i put myself at risk for it not once but TWICE !!! there has got to be something wrong with me if i keep putting myself at risk like this ....But thats another story ..i am a bit of a rebel and it might cost me my life someday .....I am sorry to eveyone here ....including all the mods and other people i might have annoyed during this time ....Keep up the good work you guys are the bestest ( is that even a word ahahah me and my inventive spelling )
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Loser,
Here's what you do. Next Monday, August 21st, go test. That is your six week point. The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks. A negative result next Monday would mean that it is highly unlikely that you are infected. You'd have to confirm that during the first week in October.
In the mean time, by all means, CHILL OUT and use condoms if you have intercourse again.
Ann
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BUT i didnt have any risky sex with him (anal) just a blow job ...But iam still getting it done nonetheless ....thanks ann your an angel ....seriously....
Mucho hugs
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FFS!
I asked you when the last time you had UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE with him. If you have not had UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE with him, you DON'T NEED FURTHER TESTING.
It's not just anal intercourse that is risky. ANY UnPROTECTED INTERCOURSE IS RISKY.
Ann
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OK .....i get it ... but my whole conren was being HIV negative from pervious partner thats all my flip out is causing everyone to freak out and worry ..and its not good .... you keep saying i was conclusivly tested negative from my ex....see the thing is i had sex with my ex in december of 2005 before i met my new partner ....I met my new partner in december of 2005 had sex with him tested negative in may of 2006.. so Idont know what it means ...I really do appologize stress has been getting to me latly casue of this and its not good for anyone involved not even my current ex..my parents ...you ..or anyone here for that matter ....I am sorry for beating a dead horse to DEATH even further ....if you have any question or concerns just PM and we can tlak there without having to drag this further on the net ...or threads ....
So sorry
Tiffany
PS : Please PM me with any questions or concerns you mods have as i dont want to drag this otu even further out here
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PLEASE HELP !!!!
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Loser,
What? How many times do I have to explain?
You did not become infected with hiv from the ex you had intercourse with in December. Your test in May tells us this. Your test in May is conclusive where your December ex is concerned.
I'm now unclear about your new ex. I asked you earlier when the last time you had UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE with him was and you came back and it seems that you've only given him a blowjob. If this is correct, then you don't actually need further testing.
If you HAVE had UNPROTECTED anal OR vaginal INTERCOURSE with him, you need to test at least six weeks after when you had intercourse. NOT blowjob, not fingering, not whatever, ONLY intercourse.
Do you hear that thudding noise? That's my head and the nearest wall.
Ann
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i ment to write september 2005 ..but tis still the same issue ...all this worryingand stress made me write the wrong thing
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please help once more FOR THE LAST TIME
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Loser,
What? Help you how? How could you not realise, after all your time here, that your test in May means you are conclusively negative from your first ex?
This is getting beyond a joke. Either you are so lacking in the intelligence department that I don't know how you manage to get out of bed in the morning, or you are winding us up.
The bottom line here - and I'm going to be blunt - is that you need to test 12-13 weeks after the last time you let someone - ANYONE - fuck you without a condom. I can't get plainer than that. OK?
If you HAVE tested at least 12-13 weeks after the last time you got fucked without a condom being worn, then you do NOT need further testing.
I'm done here. Don't bother PMing me or anyone else either. Keep this up and you will be given a time out.
Ann
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thanks i reallydo appologize for this ....
first ex b/f = my status negative CONCLUSIVLY
new ex b/f=my status unknown....
thats it iam signing off ....gotta go to the docs for my kidneys ...
thanks ann you are the best ....thasnks for putting up with my BS cant thank ya enough
mucho hugs and appologies
Tiffany
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please help me I am still freaking out about all of this and i dont know what to do anymore
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Loser,
There is NOTHING more we CAN do for you. We gave you all the information you could possibly need. There is nothing more we can do. YOU need to go test at the appropriate time. We cannot do that for you.
I suggest you seek out some face to face help and support for your intense anxiety. We cannot give you counseling over the internet - that is far outside the scope of this forum. Get a referral from your regular doctor and see a therapist.
Ann
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The kidney doctor said something htat made my heart sink becasue I had positive ANA C3 cells in my body which means my body was fighting an infection and that some of the left over cells where effecting my body supposidly ......he says since i had my kidney infection that it became positive ..and since iam not batteling it should go back to normal .......and if it doesnt something is in my system and it makes me think all sorts of horrible things this is why i am freakinig out ...I was going to ask the doctor for a CD4 test but that would have really put me in axiety overload .......Whaqt is my best motive of thinking right now ?
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Just take a freaking regular hiv test and get it over with. You still haven't said when the last time you had unprotected intercourse with your new ex was - you need to test six weeks after that. Not after a blowjob, after unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. If you haven't been having unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse with your new ex then you don't need to test at all and all this has been a colossal waste of time, bandwidth and energy.
Now go see a professional about your anxiety. I'm ~this close~ to giving you a time out - window period or no window period.
Ann
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i did i took one in may remember that came out neg
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If you are saying that you haven't had unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse since three months before your test in May, then you don't need further testing.
Ann
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I HAD SEX WITHHIM BEFORE MY MAY TEST AND CAME OUT NEGATIVE >>AFTER HAVING SEX WITH MY ARTNER IN SETEMBER OF 05 OOPS SORRY NO CAPS MY BUTTON GOT STUCK
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see the thing is i had sex with my ex in december of 2005 before i met my new partner ....I met my new partner had sex with him tested negative in may of 2006
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It doesn't matter what anyone is going to say to you, so go test, so that we can put an end to this.
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I really appologize but i am sure you guys understand my anxiety and concern dont you ?
I really dont doubt the results as they where done correctly and on time .....But i sitll doubt them ...what should i do not to doubt them ....I am alredy freaking out everyone too much I just need to put my mind at ease
see the thing is i had sex with my ex in december of 2005 before i met my new partner ....I met my new partner had sex with him tested negative in may of 2006..i am paranoid that the test came out inconclusive thats all
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if any mods want please PM me ASAP
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Loser,
We don't give advice via PM here. All advice is given publicly.
MtD
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So what is the verdict on my case before my head explodes
I had a breif encounter with my ex in september of 2005 unprotected didnt last too long
i remember he didnt even finish in me .I met my new partner in december of that same year got together with him and fooled around again very breifly untill i got tested in may and came back negative for STD and HIV..my concern is not having the test come out the right way as i fear i might of had it done at the wrong time i keep doubting my results for some reason..If i had HIV I would have ARS by now wouldnt I ?
LEASE HEL!!!!!
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see the thing is i had sex with my ex in december of 2005 before i met my new partner ....I met my new partner had sex with him tested negative in may of 2006..i am paranoid that the test came out inconclusive . My partner says he doesnt have time for Gf's cause he is so busy at the time .right now we arent together anymore but i am just so worried i didnt do the testing the right way and got a false result ....*sigh* what do i do ..When i went to get my urine and blood samples checked out by the doctor for my UTI they said my C4 levels where ok but isnt that checked out during a normal Complete blood count test ?...cause i retuned all normal on those tests ...they didnt see a decrese in anything .....This is the last time i am going to freak out i promise ... I know 30 days isnt really a reliable time to get tested again but i need to quiet my fears ....but waiting alone will make it worst for me it would be like reliving it the first time around in may when i got it done .....Ann iam so sorry for this ...i hate bugging everyone here with my worries but I jsut dont know what to do right now ......My boyfriend didnt know i was with someone perviously because i got tested and told him my results ......now i dont know what to Do
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Loser,
I really think it's time for you to seek the assistance of a mental health professional. We cannot provide the sort of support you need.
MtD
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but just try to calm my fears for a bit its the best anyone can do for now....
I got recently retested for STD's and they came back negative again its just the HIv test I am worried of
matt here is my situation
So what is the verdict on my case before my head explodes
I had a breif encounter with my ex in september of 2005 unprotected didnt last too long
i remember he didnt even finish in me .I met my new partner in december of that same year got together with him and fooled around again very breifly untill i got tested in may and came back negative for STD and HIV..my concern is not having the test come out the right way as i fear i might of had it done at the wrong time i keep doubting my results for some reason..If i had HIV I would have ARS by now wouldnt I ?
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This has gone on long enough. I agree with Matty, it is time for you to seek one on one intervention from a mental health professional. This forum can not be of any further help for you.
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but i dont understand what is my situation right now iam freaking out so bad its insaine
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Loser,
C4 levels are nothing to do with hiv. (you're thinking of CD4 levels). C4 levels are something to do with lupus if I'm not mistaken and lupus has nothing to do with hiv. Your doctor is simply looking for the reason behind your kidney problem. You need to talk to your doctor about this, not us.
You still have not told us when the last time you EVER had unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse was. The phrase "fooling around" does not tell us anything. You need to test 12-13 weeks after your last unprotected intercourse - that's fucking without a condom - and I really don't understand what's so difficult to take on board about that.
Ann
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I told you guys First time I had unproteced sex was with my ex in september of 2005
I didnt get tested at the time.I met my new partner in December of 05 that same year
I had sex with him on and off for a fo few months Untill i freaked out and got tested for STD's and HIV in may 06 and came back negative as my status ,,,,now iam begiing to doubtr the results now although I retook the STD test and came back negative
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Loser,
If your test in May was 12-13 weeks after the last time ANYONE fucked you without a condom on, then you are conclusively hiv negative. IF it was at least six weeks after the last time ANYONE fucked you without a condom on, then it is highly unlikely that you are hiv positive.
If your test in May was LESS THAN six weeks after the last time someone fucked you without a condom, then you need to test again.
Ann
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but you guys told me my status was conclusivly negative
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Loser,
NO, we told you that you were conclusively negative from your first ex.
If you let your second ex fuck you without a condom, then you need to test 12-13 weeks after the last unprotected fuck.
This isn't rocket science you know.
Did you or did you not fuck your last ex without a condom? You still haven't said.
Ann
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yes i fucked with my last ex unprotected...ann just tell me i tested conclusivly from my perivious ex
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Loser,
I've told you that you tested conclusively from your first ex more times than I care to think about.
It sounds as though you have NOT tested conclusively from your SECOND ex. You need to test 12-13 weeks after the last unprotected fuck with your SECOND ex. As I said before, the SECOND ex is the wildcard here.
Ann
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thats all i needed to know .....
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as long as I teste dconclusivly negative from my perivious ex i have got nothing to worry bout for now....or do I in regards to myperivious ex
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You tested three months after you've been having unprotected sex with your new boyfriend?
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are you talking recently or before ? I am repeating myself soo much right now ..i tested conclusivly negative from my perivious partner(I hope) my new partner I dont know
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Loser,
You need to test twelve to thirteen weeks after the last time you fucked your new (ex) partner withOUT a condom.
Ann
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So my last ex partner is out of the picture FOR GOOD ?
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Just go test 13 weeks after your last unprotected sex with your New boyfriend. Take him with you to get tested also.
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can I go with him on monday ....
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When was the last time you fucked him without a condom?
Not blowjob, not fingering, not looking at him - fucking him without a condom. Only. That's what you need to test over.
So my last ex partner is out of the picture FOR GOOD ?
YES for the love of pete, you are conclusively negative for the other guy.
Ann
(whose finger is on the TO button)
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First time I had unproteced sex was with my ex in september of 2005
I didnt get tested at the time.I met my new partner in December of 05 that same year
I had sex with him on and off for a fo few months Untill i freaked out and got tested for STD's and HIV in may 06 and came back negative as my status. We has sex on and off for a few months so i cant pin point the last time we had it unprotected ....but i remember last time being involved with him july10th 05
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Loser,
As I told you yesterday, if the last unprotected incident with him was July 10, you can test next week for a six week result. This will be a very good indication of your status as a six week negative rarely changes.
Ann
(who is done here for sure...)
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thanks for the info ...so i can totally forget bout perivious ex FOR SURE ?
get tested on monday and see where my new status is .....
MUCHO HUGS AND KISSES TO ALL
I really appologize for all this BS these past few days ....but it was kinda legit
since i busted with my now new ex I jsut dont want to fear giving him anything cause of my stupid ass
I told him nothing bout my ex and that was the problem but since you guys say iamclear then I will trust you guys on that and leave it at that for now...
THANKS FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME YOU GUYZ ARE GR8 (sorry for the Im jargon)
Thanks for easing my mind SOMEWHAT as long as i was HIV negative going into this new relationship i dont have anything to worry bout
but for clarity tell me once more that I was ok from previous Ex ....I need to be reassured on that one
FOR THE LAsT TIME I PROMISE YOU
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thanks for the info ...so i can totally forget bout perivious ex FOR SURE ?
get tested on monday and see where my new status is .....
MUCHO HUGS AND KISSES TO ALL
I really appologize for all this BS these past few days ....but it was kinda legit
since i busted with my now new ex I jsut dont want to fear giving him anything cause of my stupid ass
I told him nothing bout my ex and that was the problem but since you guys say iamclear then I will trust you guys on that and leave it at that for now...
THANKS FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME YOU GUYZ ARE GR8 (sorry for the Im jargon)
Thanks for easing my mind SOMEWHAT as long as i was HIV negative going into this new relationship i dont have anything to worry bout
but for clarity tell me once more that I was ok from previous Ex ....I need to be reassured on that one
FOR THE LAsT TIME I PROMISE YOU
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if anyone wants you can e-mail me at EternalSoulflame777@yahoo.com for more details...
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Loser,
I'm giving you a short time out until Tuesday, when you can log on and tell us your test results. We've told you everything we can and if you want reassurance, you can re-read the 161 posts in your thread. You will be able to read the forum but not log on or post.
Do NOT create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned, no questions asked.
Ann
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I am HIV negative ....
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:) Protect that gift. Please. You are WAY too important to the world not to be around for a long, long time.
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I know thanks everyone for putting up with me ....XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX to everyone
I dont know anymore ...I had a rough few weeks ....Doesnt help much that my ex wants NOTHING to do with me at all now ....I am trying to move on ut everywhere I go i see him there with me ....its like someone is playing a cruel joke on me ....and now he is getting back together with his ex and what i recently found out is that he NEVER wanted a g/f in the first place to begin with but now i dont know what his deal is ...Oh well I guess its time for me to move on no matter how hard it might be
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Ever since my last HIV negative result of last year I have stopped going to the boards .But for some odd reason latley I have been doubting my results I know I shouldnt But right now I am involved with someone who I really love honestly and I dont want to hurt him .I have no idea why I still doubt the results I spoke about this with my mother and she said that I cant doubt science and medeciine because the doctors would never lie to you But it still doesnt clear my head .I have a question also I wanted to know what is the accurate time frame for getting tested Three months after unprotected Sex or Six .I had a few HIV scares before but that information is a bit odd to me and I am trying to verify it .
What should I do about me doubting my test results ? Should I get tested again ? and forget about it for good ?
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As long as you tested HIV negative at 13 weeks or more after a possibly risky incident then you are HIV negative. Period. End of story.
There's no need to re-test. What should you do? This is not really about HIV. It's about thoughts and feelings and HIV fears are being (mis)used as the object of your attention. If you can't let go of this unwarranted fear then I would say see a therapist or other like professional to get some help in sorting out your feelings about this. More testing will not address that.
And of course, if you have intercourse with anyone, make sure that the guy is always, ALWAYS wearing a condom. No exceptions.
This is NOT an HIV situation. Period.
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Looser,
I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.
If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.
Please also read through the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.
Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.
If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.
Ann
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emeber me ? thank you for being patient with me all those months ago when I was paniking about my HIV status .Well unfortunetly that uneast feeling has returned . I dont know why but I feel as if something is wrong with me and I am actually HIV +.Latley I have people including my parents tell me I have lost weight eventhough I eat like a pig and dont exercise one bit and yesterday I felt really exausted but I guess that is a result of wisdom teeth growing in .I am sure as you are aware of or dont know I broke up with my last current ex boyfriend of last year in august and I am in a current relationship with my boyfriend of nine months whom I love dearly ,.We always used condoms early on in our relationship and I told him honestly i was HIV - and had the papers to back up my statement and was willing to show to him just in case he had doubts to which he said he didnt need to see them ,which infuriated me because you cannot go just by trust in a relationship.But I dont know what is wrong with me , I keep exposing myself to the virus ,as my now current boyfriend is not tested as i trust him deeply that he is not HIV + or has an comunicable diseases ,I know you cannot go by trust alone but I dont know why I do .I always have educated myself on the topics of STD's and HIV/AIDS and made it a priority of practing safety ,and safe sex but i have been very lax and now iam not so sure what to do , i have had unprotected intercourse with my boyfriend many times , as I told him I was conclusivly HIV - now all the feelings of those many months ago have risen to the surface again , how do i explain to my current boyfriend the situation and get him to test , I am jsut looking for advice this time , I am sorry to bother you in any manner as i know you are extremly busy
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GL,
My advice is that you get yourself into counseling to discover why you keep putting yourself at risk for hiv infection. You know the score - you need to be using condoms every time until you are securely monogamous and have tested together.
We can only tell you how to protect yourself. We cannot force you to do it.
Ann
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is a six week HIV aniti-body test reliable ? can oyu go by your results oyu get after 6 weeks ?
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Go seek help from a mental health professional. You are way beyound the help that anyone here can give.
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1. You've had unprotected sex so you need to get tested at 13 weeks for a conclusive answer.
2. You clearly know better about having unprotected sex but you still persist for whatever your personal reasons in stirring up problems for yourself.
3. Hopefully you are going to test negative. A negative at 6 weeks is a good thing but it is not conclusive. A very small number take longer to seroconvert. So you still need to re-test at 13 weeks.
4. Stop apologizing. It doesn't ring true. We're not here to handhold you through everytime you act impulsively and have unprotected intercourse.
5. As you were told before, it's time for you to see a therapist or other mental health professional to find out why you're acting in ways that put your life at risk. We can't resolve that kind of issue for you here.
6. Good luck with your test. You should be using condoms everytime you have intercourse no matter whom you are with until you are in a securely monogamous relationship in which both partners have tested negative together at a reliable testing point.
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looser,
I deleted a reply you posted in the LTS forum. As someone who is not hiv positive, the ONLY forums you may post in are the Off Topic forum and this forum. This information is contained in the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) and you've been here long enough to know this.
Consider yourself sternly warned.
Ann
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ey i know its been ahwile ...iam kinda worried right now its not about me again ...just my father is sick ..he has bad chills and diareah and he lost his appetite a bit it just started today ....I know that a few weeks ago he had major dentstry done on his tooth and it had gotten infected so he had ot take anitbiotics but his tooth infeciton cleared up but iam not sure if this is of the antibiotics or something else ....I know i shouldnt be freaking out but he is very over dramatic with being sick which unfortunetly i got from him ..but besides the point I dunno what to do ....its making me freak our now because after many HIV scares I have came out HIV negative but for some reason still I fell like i might be infected ..now how does this relate you ask ...I use my fathers electric shaver sometimes to shave my legs i knwo it sounds gross but sometimes it prevents me from getting nicked so i liek using it cause i have boney knees and get cut sometimes ...now i fear i might have transmitted something to my father ....arggggggggggg...I know iam not HIV pos but still iam freaking out regardless...I know my post doesnt make any sense ...but please bear with me
he recently came back from Poland ...so that might have something to do with it as well ...he was there for three weeks so he might have gotten travelrs sickness ...But iam sure my freakout is nothing .. its just that my father makes things so animated that i just start worrying very much ....so what should I do ... and what do you thik is causing this ....
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Loser,
You don't have hiv. How could you possibly have given it to your father?
And even if you WERE hiv positive, the only way you'd give it to your father is if you'd been having unprotected anal sex with him.
You ARE hiv negative. It's high time you sought out a therapist so you can learn how to deal with your hiv phobia. We cannot help you with that here.
If I have to give you another time out to encourage you to seek help, it will be for two months as it will be your second.
Ann