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Thousands of people on a stinky smelly boat:
http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/carnival-apologizes-stranded-cruise-ship/story?id=18472936
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I love that they're urinating on the carpets -- that's seriously hardcore. My parents just got back from a 2 week cruise and are going on a 30-day one in April or May departing from Dubai. My mother's already fretting about visiting Egypt with all of those wilding folks.
They used to take me on cruises back when they thought I was about to die, but well that doesn't happen any longer.
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I'm scheduled to go on the Carnival Magic in August. I've never been on anything other than a 1 day cruise. But with no drunk Italians at the helm of Carnival I figured "What could go wrong?"
I now have my answer. :-\
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A one day cruise? I wasn't aware such a thing existed. Exactly what is the point of that?
Oh, I get it -- you're counting that splurge on a River Walk gondola ::)
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A one day cruise? I wasn't aware such a thing existed. Exactly what is the point of that?
Oh, I get it -- you're counting that splurge on a River Walk gondola ::)
Lady Vancome would have a field day with this^.
:-* :) ;)
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A one day cruise? . Exactly what is the point of that?
Gambling in International waters of course :P
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A one day cruise? I wasn't aware such a thing existed. Exactly what is the point of that?
A one day cruise is very common in port cities. We used to take a "cruise to nowhere" when ships were idle while being repositioned for the next season. You get a whole day on board, just cruising at sea for about $200 a couple and they give you the good cabins, like with balconies, etc., instead of that inboard crap.
Joe
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Child please. If the Lady Miss P desires to indulge in a bit of gambling all she need do is take NJ transit's train from downtown Philly to Atlantic City. I think it gets me there in an hour. Plus they have a gay bar with glitzy Cher-like drag queens.
And then there's the legendary Brass Rail where everyone is one step from a crack pipe. Open since 1902!
ps: I don't even need to go AC to gamble -- we have a casino within our city border (http://www.sugarhousecasino.com/). Don't even need a car -- MERE BLOCKS FROM A SUBWAY STOP! Y'all come on down!
Oh, actually there's also Harrah's Casino & Racetrack (http://www.harrahsphilly.com/casinos/harrahs-chester/hotel-casino/property-home.shtml?) too. I think they're planning an even larger third casino that will literally be right downtown near the convention center. Some folks are a bit aghast at that prospect.
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I think those poor people on Gilligan's Island were on an ill fated day cruise .
And like Wolfe they packed enough clothes for 3 seasons .
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So I am hearing reports that they have cut off all the liquor and are feeding people Onion sandwich's. Not Cool.
I can handle crapping in little bags and sleeping on deck, but I draw the line here ^
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I've never understood the desire to go on a cruise. what's the point? who wants to spend their holiday in some buffet line with diarrhea trapped on a boat with a bunch of overweight oldies?
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I have been on a lot of cruises (from 2 nights to 14 nights) - the likelihood of this fire happening is quite low. Terribly unfortunate, but not likely, so enjoy your upcoming cruise Wump. Sid and I board the Brilliance of the Seas a week from Sat., in San Juan for seven nights.
Mike
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I've never understood the desire to go on a cruise. what's the point? who wants to spend their holiday in some buffet line with diarrhea trapped on a boat with a bunch of overweight oldies?
If you've not Been on one, how can you say this? Trust me, it is not even close to your assessment.
M
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If you've not Been on one, how can you say this? Trust me, it is not even close to your assessment.
M
your right I've not been on a cruise before. whenever I have asked others what the appeal is I always seem to get similar answers. They usually have to do with the all you can eat food (Im not into that). seems like if you wanted to gamble would be more fun to go to Vegas or foxwoods. if you wanted to go to the beach go to a nice.hotel on the beach.
being stuck on a boat just sounds manufactured. shuffleboard on the lido deck anyone?
since I haven't been. what is the appeal?
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I've never understood the desire to go on a cruise. what's the point? who wants to spend their holiday in some buffet line with diarrhea trapped on a boat with a bunch of overweight oldies?
Actually if you go on a cruise going on one with primarily an "older set" of passengers is IMO preferable to one with over-partying 20/30 somethings or families with loud kids. I've been on two cruises, both with my parents, and due to destination and time of year (Scandanavia & Russia, and Greece/Turkey) that was the type of crowd. And neither were cheap cruises so it was more of a Emilio Pucci crowd than a Walmart one. And both of those have ports or call that are all interesting. So it just depends on choosing wisely where you go and what time of year.
As far as the food goes yes, there are always buffets available, but there are also ALWAYS full sit-down tablecloth service on board too. And the Baltic cruise we took you could also have room service for every single meal if you wanted to. We did full course sit-down meals for every dinner, and maybe half the lunches. We did the buffet most of the time for breakfast, unless there was no port of call that day then we did sit-down. I may be recalling things incorrectly but I think even in the full service sit down restaurant if you want a second helping of something you can get it at no extra cost. And the large cruise ships also always have "a la carte" separate restaurants that are even more upscale that you just pay extra for.
That said, I went into it with the idea that I wouldn't enjoy it at all and it was tolerable. It's not a bad thing to take a vacation with your parents as they get older, and if they want to go overseas a cruise keeps them from getting too befuddled.
But it's kind of a lazy way to see the world if that's all you do, IMO. And I was totally not into all of the after dinner "shows" that they have and routinely skipped them and just read books in my cabin or smoked cigars in the humidor bar and had a glass of bourbon. Oh, and the disco is ALWAYS tragic on a cruise ship. They also always have nice spas and jacuzzis so I'd indulge in facials and manicures if I got bored.
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your right I've not been on a cruise before. whenever I have asked others what the appeal is I always seem to get similar answers. They usually have to do with the all you can eat food (Im not into that). seems like if you wanted to gamble would be more fun to go to Vegas or foxwoods. if you wanted to go to the beach go to a nice.hotel on the beach.
being stuck on a boat just sounds manufactured. shuffleboard on the lido deck anyone?
since I haven't been. what is the appeal?
While it's true that a cruise isn't for everyone, I haven't met too many who have actually taken one and hated it.
There is much more to do than eat and play shuffleboard. The ships today have all kinds of things -- ziplines, flowriders, rock climbing, miniature golf --- along with shopping, casino (except for Disney cruise ships) and the chance to meet some great (and not so great) people from all over.
I love the spa -- massage, pedicures, and, yes, facials too. Great gyms (so I hear).
The thing I most like about a cruise though -- once I'm onboard, everything is taken care of for me. You can wake up in a new place every day (you are rarely "stuck on the boat", unless it is a repositioning cruise). Granted, you don't get alot of time in each spot -- but you get to see where you want to return and where you don't. For instance, one afternoon in Naples is more than enough for anyone -- horrid place, really (great pizza though). Dubrovnik -- a truly unexpected gem.
So -- my advice to those in doubt -- take a short cruise, test the waters, so to speak.
mike
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your right I've not been on a cruise before. whenever I have asked others what the appeal is I always seem to get similar answers. They usually have to do with the all you can eat food (Im not into that). seems like if you wanted to gamble would be more fun to go to Vegas or foxwoods. if you wanted to go to the beach go to a nice.hotel on the beach.
being stuck on a boat just sounds manufactured. shuffleboard on the lido deck anyone?
since I haven't been. what is the appeal?
http://travel.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/travel/seven-days-on-the-queen-mary-2.html?pagewanted=all
Seven Days on the Queen Mary
Supposedly, a sociable man 45-65 who can dance, has dinner jackets, and is game for all the activities, can cruise anywhere for a pittance. No sex required and gays accepted.
Considering that there must be 10s of thousands of different kinds of cruises, I'm sure there's one that could delight anyone..... Don't be such a debbie downer.
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The QM2 is hardly a Carnival Fun Ship now is it?
May I remind you of a rather poignant passage from the above referenced article?
"Conditions are getting worse by the hour," passenger Debra Rightmire told ABC News in a text message. "Cabin carpets are wet with urine and water. Toilets are overflowing inside cabins. We are having to sleep in the hallways. Onion and cucumber sandwich last night," she said.
You dont see that in those Kathy Lee commercials now do you?
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your right I've not been on a cruise before. whenever I have asked others what the appeal is I always seem to get similar answers. They usually have to do with the all you can eat food (Im not into that). seems like if you wanted to gamble would be more fun to go to Vegas or foxwoods. if you wanted to go to the beach go to a nice.hotel on the beach.
being stuck on a boat just sounds manufactured. shuffleboard on the lido deck anyone?
since I haven't been. what is the appeal?
I've always wanted to go on one because I love the ocean. Not the beach, really, but the ocean. I have always enjoyed the idea of being a speck in the middle of a vast sea, with the manufactured amenities (games, food, drinks, shows) playing as a distraction from the real fact that I am essentially helpless against an inherently hostile Nature, and that the depths of beauty and splendor I would gaze at every day are also cold, unforgiving, and can in a moment sweep me to my certain death.
I guess I'm a romantic like that.
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I don't ever wanna be on a boat ever again, after being in the US Navy for 2 tours of duty (8 yrs.)
I was on the USS Sacramento (AOE-1) and the USS Enterprise (CVN-65)
I'm more of a land lover myself, I'd rather drive across the USA, there is still places and many Cities and Townships, that I've never even seen before....
Bob & I try to do something like this every yr. if we can swing it, all I need is my tunes and I'm all set to go & explore what the USA has to offer, beautiful country we live in isn't :D
HUGS
DEN :)
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The last thing I want to do on a vacation is sit in a fucking car and drive.
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I dunno. Road trips are great. So are cruises. I can think of a dozen different kinds of holidays and they are all precious because they are vacations!
Though the holiday from hell everyone ends up on at least once in a lifetime.... ick.
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unless have unlimited time them why would you want to spend precious vacation time in a car (or cruise ship) when you could be sipping cocktails in sobe (or similar) watching.the trade go by?
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Actually on second thought the best trip I ever had was 10 days driving around Iceland, which I encourage everyone to do once in their life. But there isn't another great alternative there.
I'm OK with shortish road trips like driving around Tuscany or something, as long as I don't have to do the driving.
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I like to drive (it's in my Blood) we can make a trip back east to see Bob's Folks in about 2 days :D
of course, I do all of the driving, while bob reads his crossword puzzles, and takes his shoes off and bitches @ me to turn down the the Sirius XM (he hates DISCO) radio most of the way, but he sure knows his way around them large cities & traffic jams.....lol
it's a lotta fun too
HUGS
DEN :D
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In any event, Carnival Cruises better get its shit together.
This, and Costa Concordia, and this:
http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2012/04/articles/rescue-1/two-dead-fishermen-did-star-princess-cruise-ship-ignore-mariners-in-distress/
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I like to drive (it's in my Blood) we can make a trip back east to see Bob's Folks in about 2 days :D
Now see, that's what I meant I won't do -- EVER. Driving across an entire continent just seems really stupid.
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Well I can understand your plight ( your single) and it's lonely driving by yourself
let alone doing anything without someone you love :)
life can be lonely, find a man to spend some time
with :D
life is worth living ya know, no matter how stupid you think it is :-*
HUGS
DEN :D
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You're married and you're still lonely. 8)
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Now see, that's what I meant I won't do -- EVER. Driving across an entire continent just seems really stupid.
Well I can understand your plight ( your single) and it's lonely driving by yourself
let alone doing anything without someone you love :)
I would absolutely drive all the way across the country - it's just finding the time and cash all at once to do so. In fact, I'd love to.
I also really like time alone. Not all the time, of course, but I can totally get into taking such a drive...even all by myself.
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Some friends just got back from this gay cruise and posted this video. This looks fun to me. I am sure I would enjoy it. It's the being stuck on a ship thing I am hesitant about. I mean stuck on a perfectly functioning ship. Perhaps I'll go one day, when I'm the average age.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfKVJxxSyv0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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The
shit ship is in view near Mobile Ala. !
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Some friends just got back from this gay cruise and posted this video. This looks fun to me. I am sure I would enjoy it. It's the being stuck on a ship thing I am hesitant about. I mean stuck on a perfectly functioning ship. Perhaps I'll go one day, when I'm the average age.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfKVJxxSyv0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
You could go now and be a cabin boy .
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So they just interviewed a passenger live on CNN, the passenger says there is plenty of food on board and they have eaten very well, and said he just got finished eating a crab sandwich with a bowl of lumped lobster. He says he hasn't seen any cheese sandwich's. He said they opened up the bars and offered everyone complimentary Wine and beer...He says the only real inconvenience is crapping in the bags. Even goes so far as to say Carnival has treated them very well under the circusmtances.
Is this guy a "plant"?
Or is he in first class and all the people in steerage are eating the onion sandwich's?
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So they just interviewed a passenger live on CNN, the passenger says there is plenty of food on board and they have eaten very well, and said he just got finished eating a crab sandwich with a bowl of lumped lobster. He says he hasn't seen any cheese sandwich's. He said they opened up the bars and offered everyone complimentary Wine and beer...He says the only real inconvenience is crapping in the bags. Even goes so far as to say Carnival has treated them very well under the circusmtances.
Is this guy a "plant"?
Or is he in first class and all the people in steerage are eating the onion sandwich's?
I bet it's mostly been the rednecks on the cruise that have been complaining. You know how Southerners are always looking for a free handout.
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LMAO! There is a shot of a guy in a cowboy hat and a Texas flag shirt hanging his sheet over the side and the sheet says "HELP! Need Beer!"
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Cruises can be fun, especially if its a gay cruise. The best cruise i had was Norwegian cruise line in Hawaii. it was the best way to see Hawaii, in a different port almost everyday.
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I can't think of anything more horrific than being imprisoned with 3,000 homosexuals for five days.
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I can't think of anything more horrific than being imprisoned with 3,000 homosexuals for five days.
LOL! I am speechless!
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LMAO! There is a shot of a guy in a cowboy hat and a Texas flag shirt hanging his sheet over the side and the sheet says "HELP! Need Beer!"
what's so unusual about a Texan doing that? :)
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it really was lots of fun, meet lot of folks, mostly gay but a few hetero couples here and there that loved to do the gay cruises. The ship crew loves the gay cruises because they get tipped and been known to enjoy the parties.
I will say that there was so much action going on in the sauna, the ship couldn't keep up with the towels. That was the only time RSVP got their hands slapped a little
I was on the cruise with that big mouth lady from the roseanne show and also the lady that played nell on the nell carter show. i didn't know she was a lesbian, but she was.
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Does the cruise line charge extra for the breakfast buffet of meth or is that included in the price?
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and also the lady that played nell on the nell carter show.
ya mean...Nell Carter?
Didnt she die like ten years ago?
Gimme a Break
Arent the RSVP cruises supposed to be more "mature" and tame and the Atlantis cruises are basically the circuit party at sea? Could you imagine going on an Olivia cruise? With all those lesbians, now that sounds horrid.
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ya mean...Nell Carter?
Didnt she die like ten years ago?
Gimme a Break
Arent the RSVP cruises supposed to be more "mature" and tame and the Atlantis cruises are basically the circuit party at sea? Could you imagine going on an Olivia cruise? With all those lesbians, now that sounds horrid.
The video I posted was from an Atlantis cruise. Are there enough gays to fill a huge ship like that? I mean, we are less than 2% of the population after all. Seriously though, are those exclusive gay cruises? No regular passengers?
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Could you imagine going on an Olivia cruise? With all those lesbians, now that sounds horrid.
Lesbians are tons of fun and way less whiny than the gay boys. AIDSmeds is a great illustration of this fact.
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I was on the cruise with that big mouth lady from the roseanne show
Rosanne herself?
Laurie Metcalf?
Sandra Bernhard?
If it was Sandra Bernhard and you don't know her name you must now go wear a shame hat in the corner for not knowing your middling Gay Icons....
Hmm. Heteros on a gay cruise. Might go something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbY5J4HBPG8
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ya mean...Nell Carter?
Could you imagine going on an Olivia cruise? With all those lesbians, now that sounds horrid.
I know and what if they were black? The horror.
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I was on the USS Sacramento (AOE-1) and the USS Enterprise (CVN-65)
My uncle was your commander upon the Enterprise. (Joseph Corsi). He just recently retired after 40+ years.
Wolfie
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My uncle was your commander upon the Enterprise. (Joseph Corsi). He just recently retired after 40+ years.
Wolfie
Humm I don't recall, as a low-brow enlisted NCO E-5, you don't get to meet many Officers that high up within your command....
let alone even see them, unless they are within your division and they are lower ranking Officers like a LT. or a LT. Commander or lower like a CWO
HUGS
DEN :-)
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The only thing worse than being on this cruise was having to get off in Alabama.
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ohemmgee --Santeria curse (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/carnival-triumph-cruise-hell-bus-trip-hell-article-1.1265241)!
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Oh my god it does seem like a curse. What would be the purpose, who would cast such a curse, putting these people through hell for what diabolical ends?
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Rosanne herself?
Laurie Metcalf?
Sandra Bernhard?
If it was Sandra Bernhard and you don't know her name you must now go wear a shame hat in the corner for not knowing your middling Gay Icons....
Hmm. Heteros on a gay cruise. Might go something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbY5J4HBPG8
yes it was Sandra Bernhard, this first cruise I took was a while back, probably year 97 or so. She was supposed to do two shows, one for the first seating and one for the second seating. She got so much slack and booed by the first seating folks she cancelled the second standup and locked herself in her room until the next day she got off in mexico and flew back to Los Angeles.
She can be funny at times, but to me very obnoxious just like Kathy Griffin.
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yes it was Sandra Bernhard, this first cruise I took was a while back, probably year 97 or so. She was supposed to do two shows, one for the first seating and one for the second seating. She got so much slack and booed by the first seating folks she cancelled the second standup and locked herself in her room until the next day she got off in mexico and flew back to Los Angeles.
She can be funny at times, but to me very obnoxious just like Kathy Griffin.
I hear people like Bill Maher and Kathy Griffin say they occasionally get booed, or have people walk out. I always wonder who these people are. They got free tickets, and had no idea what kind of material they do?
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I have no problem with the content, i like a dirty talking chicks or dudes as well, but Kathy starts talking and never shuts up, she tries to be funny by talking over folks and just goes on ad on and on. she is always 'on' you never hear a serious thing come out of her mouth. By the way, i have a friend that i tell this to all the time because he loves Kathy Griffin, boy he gets angry as hell. I just love to get him all charged up. lol
Now Lisa Lapanelli she is funny, dirty, and a great standup comedianne. and of course chris rock and eddie murphy are great
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eddie murphy are great
Did you ever hear Eddie Murphy's act in the early days of AIDS? I believe it was the "Delerious" act, but I could be wrong. It got taken out of some bookstores and record shops because of his insensitivity and bad information. I remember it vaguely because it's been so long since I've seen it, but he talks about girls who hang on with gay men, and stated something like "then they have AIDS on their lips."
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All successful comedians have their good bits. No one can appeal to everyone. Eddie Murphy was a fag-bashing tool early in his career, in his stand up, but other things he did were a riot.
I bought Sandra's last CD on iTunes a few weeks ago. I hadn't heard stand up from her in so long.... It had some good bits, probably only people who followed from the 80s would laugh. (She's old!) I liked Kathy instantly because so much of it was celebrity based and she was an interesting step from Sandra, in fact.
I saw Kathy on some major talk show about 6 months ago and the camera did some unflattering angles, while she was going on and on, as you all said above... She was so wired, and she did this monstrous thing with her mouth and her eyes to the host. The camera caught it, and with all her make up and schtick, she looked just like Wayland Flowers' Madame (who is usually brought up in reference to Joan Rivers).
When celebrities turn into this sort of character/caricature, the French have a good reference: Grand Guignol. It is pretty entertaining, but its a very "hard" art, so not everyone's cup of tea.
Sandra was on the Hot in Cleveland episode that takes place on a lesbian cruise. That show is funny, and Betty White, bless her heart, always funny, never desperately clawing, and thus never turned into Grand Guignol.
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Did you ever hear Eddie Murphy's act in the early days of AIDS? I believe it was the "Delerious" act, but I could be wrong. It got taken out of some bookstores and record shops because of his insensitivity and bad information. I remember it vaguely because it's been so long since I've seen it, but he talks about girls who hang on with gay men, and stated something like "then they have AIDS on their lips."
yeah i know Eddie was quite the fag basher and AIDS basher back in the 80''s, but i think a lot of folks were that way back in those days, not that that makes it right, but he was still funny to a little young guy like me at the time, his standup anyways. hopefully he has changed his outlook and thinking about that, but of course you never hear much about him these days unless it includes a prostitute, transsexual one at that matter.
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In the 80's when suddenly gays were everywhere and hip -- some comedians played into feeding the "gay panic" of their macho audience members by being fag-bashing.
Murphy is pansexual if you trust what you read in the blogosphere, and yet seemed to have been cynical -- before the big prostitute scandal -- and was ok to be a bit hypocritical. I thought some of his mincing gay schtick was funny, anyway, it wasn't always offensive. I don't think he personally was a fag basher but rather just had bad taste in his material, pandering...
He went on to do hilarious, broad-appeal transformational comedy. His cross-dressing - meh..
Here's a list of best and worst cross-dressing performances:
http://www.businessinsider.com/celebrity-gender-benders-who-crossed-the-line-successfully-in-50-years-of-film-2012-2?op=1
The author lists Norbit as one of the worst, but I thought Rasputia was funny enough! ::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFIdZpc2L6w
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Here's a list of best and worst cross-dressing performances:
http://www.businessinsider.com/celebrity-gender-benders-who-crossed-the-line-successfully-in-50-years-of-film-2012-2?op=1
The author lists Norbit as one of the worst, but I thought Rasputia was funny enough! ::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFIdZpc2L6w
I posted this before, but I was very suprised a while ago about Yul Brynner's sultry turn at cross-dressing although the voice was apparently dubbed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QitQrNRw6rE
Regarding standup, I've delved into standup comedy on the side mostly as a writer. I like the observational comedy with nuanced thinking-out-of-the-box deconstructive funny bits (never mean or nasty) that look at the ordinary and extraordinary. A lot also rides, as noted earlier, on the comedian's deft delivery (e.g., timing, pacing/cadence, vocal clarity, audience connection, believability).
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Rosanne herself?
Laurie Metcalf?
Sandra Bernhard?
If it was Sandra Bernhard and you don't know her name you must now go wear a shame hat in the corner for not knowing your middling Gay Icons....
I thought he meant Shelly Winters LOL!
I have done cruise ships twice and was sick as shit because I get slow motion sickness, but I was not on board for more than 24 hours so I have yet to find out if I'd get over it.
My dad texted me yesterday that they are in FLL and today on the ship, "NOT Carnival." They like to drink wine and sleep out on the balcony. I should give it a go.
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Now Lisa Lapanelli she is funny, dirty, and a great standup comedianne. and of course chris rock and eddie murphy are great
See, this proves funny is in the eye of the beholder. Lisa makes me uncomfortable, with her race and gay jokes. I know comedians are suppose to push the envelope and even make people uncomfortable at times. Yes, I also know we have to laugh at ourselves and the stereotypes, because stereotypes are often based in truth, or some truth. I do find her funny at times, but I usually have to FF to the next.
I will give you that Kathy can be irritating. Her character on Seinfeld was really her. The scene, where Kramer has to break his vow of silence to tell her to shut up, seems about right.
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Now see, that's what I meant I won't do -- EVER. Driving across an entire continent just seems really stupid.
Ah, I used to love it when I lived in Seattle. The biggest ball of twine in this or that little town, oysters for sale on the side of the road in...Nevada (yes), the officer in Nebraska who pulled me over for speeding only to, wait which forum is this? No, I can't continue with that story.
I would love to do that one more time, though that sounds a little "Boys on the Side" doesn't it? The West Coast is calling.
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See, this proves funny is in the eye of the beholder. Lisa makes me uncomfortable, with her race and gay jokes. I know comedians are suppose to push the envelope and even make people uncomfortable at times. Yes, I also know we have to laugh at ourselves and the stereotypes, because stereotypes are often based in truth, or some truth. I do find her funny at times, but I usually have to FF to the next.
I found her funny the first time, but like Margaret Cho, the act never seems to change. I can only see MC make fun of her mom so many times, and the same goes for Lisa Lampanelli's love for black men.
I don't have cable (is that stilla thing) so I feel like my entire pop culture world is frozen somewhere in 2000-2006. Maybe that's what it means to get old in the post-whatever-this-is world. You stop taking in new media.