The Original Intention of "No Big Deal" -> Part deux

[nychope1]

Removed per El Z's request.

[phildinftlaudy]

Hey my new friends. I have thick skin. I moved this from a response in newly poz to here. Come and get it before my moderator pals move it.

But I promise no babies arms growing out of your back, no mental ward, no facial problems and no big deal. Respect the meds but don't be afraid of them. They are your new friends. They may actually help you sleep. They help me sleep though I stayed up too late tonight.

So you are diagnosed two months ago; join these forums one month ago; and on meds for 25 days and this makes you an expert?  This allows you to thumb your nose at the moderators?  This allows you to make promises about the effects or non-effects of a drug (are you a doctor?).  Act like you somehow have the right to run the forums or override moderators?

Newly diagnosed:  Check
Flamebait:  Check
Piece of work: Check

[RapidRod]

No I wouldn't want anyone reading your posts. 

[nychope1]

So you are diagnosed two months ago; join these forums one month ago; and on meds for 25 days and this makes you an expert?  This allows you to thumb your nose at the moderators?  This allows you to make promises about the effects or non-effects of a drug (are you a doctor?).  Act like you somehow have the right to run the forums or override moderators?

Newly diagnosed:  Check
Flamebait:  Check
Piece of work: Check

I won't pussy out and complain that you are name calling. It's fine.

You started Atripla, did you survive your first few weeks? You have been on meds for a while. Are you experienced enough to give comfort to a person who is just staring them?

[Rev. Moon]

Real point of opening yet another thread about this topic?  To elicit negative responses from members who have let you know how they feel about your stand on the "AIDS meds ain't no big deal" debacle?  To taunt the moderators?  To claim that you supposedly "coined" the sentence "no big deal"?  

Seems to me like you just want to stir the pot.  In the process you are causing some decent new members to feel isolated and/or attacked.  

And Shugah, no offense, but you ain't no expert.  You may want to eat some humble pie; hopefully there is some left over from Thanksgiving.

[phildinftlaudy]

I won't pussy out and complain that you are name calling. It's fine.

You started Atripla, did you survive your first few weeks? You have been on meds for a while. Are you experienced enough to give comfort to a person who is just staring them?

I don't see anywhere in my post where I called anyone a name.
I've been on Atripla exactly one year today - my side effects have been minimal - I do share that with those just starting Atripla (when they ask); however, I am also sure to point out that everyone's experience is different and there are people who have not tolerated it or other meds well (each person is different).

I am not so arrogant as to think that I can promise people that they will or will not have certain side effects.  I also defer many times to the experiencd members and LTS' who have a wealth more experience with HIV and various meds then I have.

I lso show the upmost respect for the moderators and don't try to post threads with the obvious intention of circumventing or disrepecting their guidance and oversight of these forums for the benefit of all members (and guests).

[Jeff G]

All of this started when you were gently and politely advised that starting meds is a big deal for many people and perhaps you shouldn't tell people how to feel , it seems you are more concerned about being right than concerned for the members of this forum .

That little taunt at the bottom of your post leads one to assume you like drama .

[nychope1]

Rev... I could have left this where it was. I read that someone felt cut out of responding to the thread so I posted it here. It wasn't a malicious move.

It is more to my point than    jkinatl2 made it out to be. I deserve my say. I never said I was an expert. Phil did.

I am pos and took meds and experienced the first month so without going into research and all I will rely on that experience to make those remarks.

So far this was met with hostility. You all had the opportunity to take a higher road and still do.

[ElZorro]

Real point of opening yet another thread about this topic?  To elicit negative responses from members who have let you know how they feel about your stand on the "AIDS meds ain't no big deal" debacle?  To taunt the moderators?  To claim that you supposedly "coined" the sentence "no big deal"?  

Seems to me like you just want to stir the pot.  In the process you are causing some decent new members to feel isolated and/or attacked.  

C'mon, NYC! You're better than this, man. Rev's right. You've stated your position and clarified it when it was initially misunderstood and it generated one of the healthiest most civil debates I've seen out here. No one is going to agree on everything. You know I love you, man, but does it really serve any constructive purpose to try to spit in anyone's eye?

[nychope1]

All of this started when you were gently and politely advised that starting meds is a big deal for many people and perhaps you shouldn't tell people how to feel , it seems you are more concerned about being right than concerned for the members of this forum .

That little taunt at the bottom of your post leads one to assume you like drama .

The little taunt is called humor. Much of which is lacking around here.

[nychope1]

C'mon, NYC! You're better than this, man. Rev's right. You've stated your position and clarified it when it was initially misunderstood and it generated one of the healthiest most civil debates I've seen out here. No one is going to agree on everything. You know I love you, man, but does it really serve any constructive purpose to try to spit in anyone's eye?

It wasn't meant to spit in anyone's eye but I will gladly remove it as I believe you are a voice of reason.

[RapidRod]

The little taunt is called humor. Much of which is lacking around here.

Humor? Never mind..

[phildinftlaudy]

I never said I was an expert. Phil did.

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I definitely never said you were an expert - far from that - it was phrased as a question (if you reread my post you may see that) --- although, some people have reported cognitive effects related to meds - (which can be a big deal)... so I understand how you may have misread what I clearly wrote.