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Title: oral sex risk?
Post by: baris1 on July 17, 2011, 02:54:15 am
I performed oral sex to a girl whom I dont know. It took at most 5 seconds and there was no fluid transfer from girl to my mouth. However, many websites say that oral sex carries a small risk for hiv and due to this I am scared. I am waiting the 21st day for testing. What is your opinion about my situation. I cant stop myself for thinking about hiv infection from oral sex. Thank you for your reply. You are doing a magnificent job
Title: Re: oral sex risk?
Post by: RapidRod on July 17, 2011, 03:52:04 am
You never had a risk of contracting HIV.
Title: Re: oral sex risk?
Post by: Ann on July 17, 2011, 04:13:16 am
baris,

Giving a woman oral sex is not a risk for hiv infection. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER ORAL SEX, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
Title: Re: oral sex risk?
Post by: baris1 on July 17, 2011, 05:13:54 am
thanks for your rapid answer. But I want to learn What is the reason of the views that claim hiv can be transmitted through oral sex? Are they totally mistaken or there are a very little risk which is negligible? 
Title: Re: oral sex risk?
Post by: Ann on July 17, 2011, 05:26:21 am
Baris,

Hiv transmission doesn't stand a chance of happening via female genitals to mouth - there are just too many obstacles on the oral route.

The first obstacle is the mouth itself. The mouth is a veritable fortress, standing against all sorts of pathogens we come into contact with every minute of our lives. It's a very hostile environment and saliva has been shown to contain over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv.

Hiv is a very fragile virus - literally. Its outer surface doesn't take kindly to changes in its preferred environment; slight changes in temperature, moisture content and pH levels all damage the outer surface. Importantly, it needs this outer surface to be intact before it can latch onto a few, very specific cell types and infect. 

Which leads to the second obstacle. Hiv can only latch onto certain types of cells, cells which are not found in abundance in the mouth.

The third obstacle to transmission this way is having hiv present in the first place. The female secretion where hiv has been shown to be present is the cervicovaginal fluid. This fluid is actually a thick mucus that covers and protects the cervix.

The fluid a woman produces when sexually excited comes from the Bartholin's glands, located on either side of the vaginal opening. I have yet to discover one shred of evidence (and believe me, I've looked) that shows this lubricating fluid to have any more hiv present than other bodily secretions such as saliva, sweat or tears. Saliva, sweat and tears are NOT infectious fluids.

So there you have it. Once the results of the serodiscordant studies* started rolling in, what we know about hiv transmission on the cellular level was validated. The only people who were getting infected were those who had unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. Period. One of the three studies went on for ten years and involved hundreds of couples. That's a lot of nookie.

*There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE!!!

Ann
Title: Re: oral sex risk?
Post by: baris1 on July 18, 2011, 06:16:31 am
thanks for your clear answer. Although I am still a bit worried, this replies made me more calm. How about the infection possibility of other STDs in my situation
Title: Re: oral sex risk?
Post by: Matty the Damned on July 18, 2011, 06:28:19 am
thanks for your clear answer. Although I am still a bit worried, this replies made me more calm. How about the infection possibility of other STDs in my situation

Other STDs such as chlamydia and gonorrhoea can be transmitted via oral sex. I would consider the risk quite low in your case, but you should consult a doctor to arrange suitable tests.

Please be aware that we are an HIV specific website and do not provide detailed information with respect to STDs other than HIV.

MtD
Title: Re: oral sex risk?
Post by: baris1 on July 18, 2011, 06:57:45 am
thanks matty I see. In any circumstance I will be tested coz some websites like WHO and CDC say there is a risk. They may be superficial or conservative but test is enecessary for. Now I am waiting the 21th day for p24 antigen test. Is that tşime enough. How ceertain is the result?
Title: Re: oral sex risk?
Post by: baris1 on July 18, 2011, 07:19:17 am
forget my preveious post  It includes too many errors coz I wrote it quickly. The correct one is this;

thanks matty I see. In any circumstance I will be tested coz some significant websites like WHO and CDC say there is a risk. They may be superficial or conservative but test is necessary for my peace of mind. Now I am waiting the 21th day for p24 antigen test. Is that time enough. How ceertain is the result? How this test is done
Title: Re: oral sex risk?
Post by: Andy Velez on July 18, 2011, 08:16:51 am
Anything other than sex  only with your own hand is theoretically a risk.

So the CDC and any other source are just covering themselves about "theoretical risks."

If you had a genuine risk such as unprotected vaginal or anal intercourse then an antigen test would not be sufficient to answer the question of your status. You would still need to test at 13 weeks to confirm a negative result on the antigen test.

 

Title: Re: oral sex risk?
Post by: baris1 on July 18, 2011, 08:58:50 am
I had not  any suspicious intercourse other than I mentioned above (unprotected oral sex lasted 5 secs without fluid transfer). Sure 13 weeks for hiv duo test?? I have read that 3-4 weeks will be sufficient for hiv duo and 3 months for elisa
Title: Re: oral sex risk?
Post by: Ann on July 18, 2011, 09:12:08 am
Baris,

What part of "YOU DID NOT HAVE A RISK" do you not understand? And this oral you're so worked up about only lasted for five seconds??? Give me a break. Talk about worrying over nothing.

When we talk about unprotected intercourse here, we're talking about anal or vaginal intercourse. If I'm reading you correctly, you have not had anal or vaginal intercourse during this incident.

However, one thing you said disturbs me.


I had not  any suspicious intercourse


Any UNPROTECTED intercourse is suspicious, unless you and that person are in a committed relationship where you have BOTH tested hiv negative TOGETHER before you stopped using condoms.

If you have EVER had UNPROTECTED anal or vaginal intercourse with ANYONE, then you need to test. The only negative test that is conclusive is one at three months.

While a positive result may be had in as little as 22 days, ONLY a three month negative is conclusive.

The brief oral sex you're worried about isn't a risk for anything other than the woman you gave it to being unsatisfied.

Ann