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Author Topic: This can't be hiv...can it?  (Read 52720 times)

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Offline Ann

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #100 on: March 03, 2008, 04:44:05 pm »
Just,

Your kissing incident wasn't a risk. You've been told that already, repeatedly.

However, you ARE risking infection having unprotected intercourse with your girlfriend, unless you've BOTH tested hiv negative TOGETHER. You BOTH need to test three month after your last incident of unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.

If you keep going on about your no-risk kissing incident or your symptoms, you will be given a time out. Please consider yourself warned.

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2008, 10:26:22 am »
I just read on the body.com where Dr Bob told a person who engaged in anal sex with another man to get tested at the 3 month mark and if negative to get tested again at the 6 month mark. He said that if the 6 month was negative that the guy dodged the HIV bullet...why would he need a 6 month test when everyone here says 3 months in 100% definitive and final? I'm so confused...is it 3 months, 6 months, 1 year?

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2008, 10:44:13 am »
If you haven't noticed we really don't care what Dr. Bob says or thinks. What we do go by is the CDC's testing guidelines which states a conclusive test is 3 months post exposure. If you'll take the time to read the informational sheets that come with the test it also states 3 months.

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2008, 10:47:55 am »
No you don't need further testing.

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2008, 03:28:23 pm »
Just,

And how many years ago was that little gem written? No, don't bother answering. You didn't have a risk. You do not need further testing. You ARE hiv negative.

Come back one more time and I'll give you that time out you seem to be begging for.

You do NOT have hiv!

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2008, 08:33:00 pm »
Hey Ann, others,

I actually saw that posting on the body.com yesterday. I guess why it worried me is because Dr Bob has HIV and I just thought he was considered a major expert in HIV and the fact that he recommended the guy get tested at 6 months because of symptoms even after testing negative at 3 months. It just confuses me. Why when someone has a low risk they are considered definitively negative at 3 months but if they have a high risk they need to retest at 6 months or even later? Well, just to let you all know...I tested again today for piece of mind...It's 13 months since my "making out" incident and I tested negative. What concerns me of course...this can never go smoothly for me...is the clinician was talking to me the whole time about odds, safe sex, etc...great man...and said lets take a look at your results - well they weren't there yet. He said sometimes they take a little longer. Does this mean they found something that didn't look right and had to make sure it indeed was not HIV? How often are lab errors made where they mix up samples and what not? Finally, and I know you're all gonna be so upset with me but with people like me who can't let this go it's so hard...it really is...am I indeed HIV negative???

Thanks again...

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #106 on: March 04, 2008, 10:46:06 pm »
Guess you just don't listen.

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #107 on: March 05, 2008, 03:32:36 am »
Just,

Whether Dr Bob is right or wrong is irrelevant as far as YOU are concerned. YOU did not have anal sex, you kissed someone and kissing - French, Spanish, Green, Purple - WHATEVER kind of kissing is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Never has been, never will be. YOU WERE NOT AT RISK!

YOU ARE HIV NEGATIVE!

I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: I am really scared!!
« Reply #108 on: September 16, 2010, 12:51:04 pm »
Hey everyone,

I'm back...just have a few questions.

So, I put HIV out of my mind for 2 years or so...never thought about it again. Well, unfortunately, the tingling, numb feelings in my legs, burn feelings, etc came back...! I went to my doc, did a full blood workup - cbc was normal, HIV ICMA throug labcorp was neg, neg hep abc, neg syphillis, no diabetes, somewhat high trigylcerides...I went to a neurologist and did an EMG and MRI on my brain and neck...he thought maybe I had CIDP the chronic form of Guillain Barre...which is very common for those with HIV...he said my peripheral nerves looked fine and my MRI was normal...I'm just so worried because lately with these symptoms and I've been so tired, etc.

Do I need a PCR test? I was thinking about doing one of those online ones...
Is the Antibody ICMA test reliable?
Don't my symptoms suggest HIV? Acute and chronic?
I had a random virus or something in 06 and again in 07 that was identical to HIV ARS...but it wasn't mono, strep or the flu...wouldn't I need more testing to rule out HIV?
Could I have just had a "random" virus?

My last possible exposure was about 2 years ago...my last negative test was 2 months ago...

Please help guys...it seems like EVERYTHING points to HIV!!! My doc can't find anything wrong with me...what else could this possibly be? What if I have a rair strain or unkown strain of HIV??? I remember getting a call from a lab about a month or so after my 06 unprotected encounter but the call dropped...could that have been a lab calling to tell me that the girl I had unprotected sex with tested positive for HIV???

I'm still so worried...please help!

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Re: I am really scared!!
« Reply #109 on: September 16, 2010, 01:01:04 pm »
You maybe back, but only briefly.

HIV is not your problem. You need professional help with your emotional issues about HIV fears.

I don't know you were able to enter another comment but your permanent ban is reinstated. You just don't get it. HIV is not your problem and we're not going to indulge you in a serious conversation about  it as if you really had a risk. You didn't.
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Re: I am really scared!!
« Reply #110 on: September 16, 2010, 01:03:30 pm »
Why am I permanently banned? I don't get it...and how did I NOT have a real risk? I had unprotected sex...please help me...why would you just ban me and not help me?

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Re: I am really scared!!
« Reply #111 on: September 16, 2010, 01:09:01 pm »
Andy,

I'm sorry...I posted in the wrong thread...that was NOT my thread...I am NOT soscared...that wasn't even my situation...I don't know how that happened but I'm not even gay...I don't know how I ended up posting in that thread...I had unprotected vaginal sex

please reinstate me

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #112 on: September 16, 2010, 01:10:00 pm »
This was my thread...NOT the other one...please respond to my questions...please

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #113 on: September 16, 2010, 06:14:23 pm »
I have reinstated your membership but you need to know that you are on extremely thin ice here.

You have reliably tested negative for HIV and have not as far as I can read see that you have ever been at risk for HIV since then. Whatever is going on with you symptomatically, there is no basis in HIV science to think HIV is your problem.

But I can tell you that if you come back again wringing your hands and carrying on with more unfounded HIV questions and worries, you are absolutely going to be Timed Out and possibly banned.

If you have a medical problem see your doctor about it. And if you can't stop worrying about HIV then see  a therapist or other professional to deal with the issue. HIV is not your problem and we're not going to allow you to become ours.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 06:21:25 pm by Andy Velez »
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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #114 on: September 16, 2010, 06:48:28 pm »
I'll recap everything for you...

Early 06 had unprotected one night stand...
2 weeks later had flu like illness with fever, etc for 4-5 days
early 07 made out with 3 girls in vegas, one of which was a stripper
3 weeks later - horrible virus that was mono/ars like for 5-7 days - wasn't mono or strep or flu
early 07-july 08 in relationship a lot of sex
mid august 07 - flu like illness with fever, tonsil exudates, etc for 4-5 days
early 08 - molluscum - don't have it anymore now - frozen off
last few months - tingling, burning and numb feet, legs, hands

no possible exposures for 2 years

last negative test Antibody ICMA through labcorp - last month and std clinic -- rapid test

so based on my symptoms, history, etc...does this sound like HIV/ARS - do I need PCR test?

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #115 on: September 16, 2010, 06:51:38 pm »
I had already gone through the dozens and dozens of exchanges so no re-cap was necessary.

Are you listening or not? Doesn't seem so. No, a PCR test is not necessary nor is any other form of HIV testing. You are HIV negative.

I'm warning you -- you are very close to getting banned again for real and it won't be a mistake this time.

HIV is not your problem. Period.
Andy Velez

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #116 on: September 16, 2010, 07:15:14 pm »
andy,

thank you.

Ann, what do you think?

It seems like you guys say I can move on...and forget about HIV.

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #117 on: September 16, 2010, 07:16:36 pm »
andy,

thank you.

Ann, what do you think?

It seems like you guys say I can move on...and forget about HIV.

Andy is spot on. You don't have HIV and you need to move on.

So do that. Move on. Before you're banned.

MtD

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #118 on: September 16, 2010, 07:30:55 pm »
No I totally respect what Andy said...I just wanted to get Anns opinion as well...I really want to move on from this guys trust me...I really don't like being on here bothering you about this...If I didn't have all the symptoms from the get go I wouldn't be here bothering you...trust me.

sorry

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #119 on: September 16, 2010, 07:55:18 pm »
I do have a few questions for learning purposes if someone could clarify...

Ann says PN from HIV doesn't typically begin for 10-15 years following infection...how do we really know this? I mean HIV has only been around for like 25 years...how do we possibly have enough data to prove that?

Also, if you read the thread about how people seroconverted in the just tested positive forum I noticed a few things

1. Everyone who had an illness had one basically that was identical to mine and
2. Most people who said they had a sero illness didn't test positive for up to 6 months and
3. Most people who said they had a sero illness said they got it from oral sex and not vaginal or anal sex which in my opinion proves that oral sex and making out can be risky...

if you go back and read what everyone said you will see...i'm not making this stuff up...this comes from members here who talk about their "risks", their illnesses and how long it took for them to test positive on an antibody test...

can someone comment on these please...

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #120 on: September 16, 2010, 08:25:25 pm »
Andy? anyone???

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #121 on: September 17, 2010, 06:47:14 am »
can someone please comment on this...im freakin out!

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Re: This can't be hiv...can it?
« Reply #122 on: September 17, 2010, 08:07:30 am »
We're not here to be your tutorial.

Go get yourself some professional help for your HIV issues. Perhaps other sites will be more accepting of your behavior.

You are now permanently banned from this site.
Andy Velez

 


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