I say go to Church if you wish, and follow your faith and your heart.however, if you go to a church that preaches against homosexuality then you are in essence supporting them, condoning their principles, and helping them in projecting their hatred into the world. Not only would that not be good for your own self-interest; but you, through the works of that church and words of the pastor, would be discriminating against homosexuals.
Just be yourself. I am not saying hide, but is there really any honest reason to tell others you are gay? I mean other than family and close friends.
I wish you the best in finding peace of mind . Please try to remember that you are as good man as any other and deserve to love yourself and others as you are . If you do this , as you mature your opinion of yourself will be one of comfort .
I was taught that being a Christian was about a personal relationship with Jesus, not with religion. According to te Bible, Jesus never spoke about homosexuals. I am unable to accept thatGod would reject a person because he/she is gay..Just be yourself. I am not saying hide, but is there really any honest reason to tell others you are gay? I mean other than family and close friends.
As i see it, ones sexual preference is a highly personal matter. Not everyone you meet needs that information. I say go to Church if you wish, and follow your faith and your heart.
Why don't you take whats good about your church and ignore the bad stuff?kinda like attending a KKK meeting without stringing anyone up from a tree, huh? ;) :o
Just curious, by the way, why you are looking for dialogue on such topics in a forum for HIV+ people.....
Your English is good why don,t you consider the rest off the world when you think about moving?
It's not an easy journey to reach, but nothing in life worthwhile is. I eventually achieved that level of contentment with myself and my spirituality. It'll be a difficult struggle, but I have the confidence you'll reach that balance.
Take care and continue to reflect and seek input.
Wolfie
there is something at the end of the rainbow.
So when the church has social events the gays should just stfu, stay in the closet and ride at the back of the bus (read: different rules for heterosexuals)? No wonder Longtime Companion's "gay lifestyle" (your words) scenes disturbed you.
For example, I met a comedian at an open mike a few weeks ago. Within two minutes he informed me that he was gay and in a 5 year monogamous relationship. I found that info a little too personal to share seeing as we had just met. Besides, I don't care. He was cool and I like him.
For example, I met a comedian at an open mike a few weeks ago. Within two minutes he informed me that he was gay and in a 5 year monogamous relationship. I found that info a little too personal to share seeing as we had just met. Besides, I don't care. He was cool and I like him.
Well I'm a Warlock, and my hubby Bob is a Ware-wolf, and YES these things do exist, and we all reside in Albuquerque, NM....I seemed to have lost my christian roots many many yrs ago. but I kept my gay roots tho, if you must know ;D
Hugs
DEN :)
so, would you have felt the same if his "revelation" was that he had been married to a woman for 5 years? I suspect not. Self-loathing is alive and well.
Oh, it is not a "sexual preference" for me -- it is simply who I am -- not a preference, not a "take it or leave it", it is innate.
Mike
. It invariably comes down to having to say you are gay or lesbian when you mention a husband or wife in a conversation or else you get a blank stare when a guy named Al mentions his husband Joe .
In a way, the Republicans tactic of using hate to win may have been over used. So what, it was good timing to end the fight for the Presidency with gay hate, so what, they got gay hating so-called religious folk to gang up on a fast food line, and so what, they can't see "winning at all cost" is not wining at all. All I know is that the more they push in the wrong direction, the worst they look and the more they lose. At least I hope so. Then again it make those who were once silent victims more vocal, more determined, and more defiant to the hate mongers. This was their last card played and it was in play since the President approved Gay Marriage or when he first got elected. So if this is the worst they can do, big deal. Gay marriage is gaining more approval, it's OK to be gay in the military, Heck, it OK to be Gay period (cause we were born this way) and when all this is history, it will be a brand new world again.Sorry, i put this in the wrong topic....
I attend an amazing Methodist Church, one of the largest churches in SA, who is a member of the Reconciling Ministries Network. http://www.rmnetwork.org/ . Most of the staff including the preachers are openly gay (GASP!). We have both gay and straight followers and any given sunday you will see and feel the amazing love they have for one another, regardless of race, or sexual orientation, etc.. There are RMN ministries all over the US and they proudly advertise this logo at the door.. (http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af308/IwuvPhilly/rmn.gif)
coming from a Baptist upbringing I can kind of relate to what you are experiencing, But as others have said, you do not need a church to have a relationship with GOD. You do not need another human being (preacher/priest) telling you how to worship, or what to be or what to do or not do. GOD is love, and GOD is tolerance.
The most repeated command in the Bible is "Fear not"...the second is "love.." So with that in mind have no fear about this juxtaposition you are dealing with. Priests/Preachers are not omnipotent, they are not God, they are mere humans. When they start preaching intolerance just bow your head and pray for them, but don't hate them merely because they know not what they speak of.
But ultimately you need to work on finding a tolerant church, the Episcopals and Methodists have made great strides in tolerance ;)
Also check out the Believe OutLoud page http://www.believeoutloud.com/learn/watch-videos check out some of the Vids and perhaps it will help you with your beliefs.
-Will
Edited: I just saw you are in Hungary...I know nothing about what is available to you over there worship-wise. But regardless of where you are remember that the road to heaven does not have to go through a church, ultimately your religion is between you and your GOD only.