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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: simonfry on January 16, 2008, 04:22:48 am
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I recently got a handjob from a girl who after playing with herself with a vibrator ,deep fingered herself and used her vaginal fluid/cum as lubricant on my penis.I noticed there were traces of blood in the fluid ,she said she came off her period that day(ot could have been the vigorous play with her dldo).Anyway she rubbed this vaginal fluid/cum with the traces of blood as lubricant over my penis inclued the tip/urethra.
Is this an HIV risk
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No Simon, this isn't a risk for HIV transmission per se. You don't need to test for HIV as a result of this encounter.
Nevertheless there are other STD's such as chlamydia and gonorrhoea which are more prevalent and transmissable than HIV and you might want to test for these. Make an appointment with your doctor or local clinic and ask for a full STD screen.
Please take the time to read our Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) and follow the links to our Lessons to learn more about how HIV is and is not transmitted.
MtD
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Thanks for the reply..what do you mean per se....
I did notice blood ,it was visible ,I imagine it to be menstrual or from cut in the vaginal fluid she was using to lubricate my penis but is this irrelevant
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Simon,
Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. Once hiv finds itself outside the body, it quickly becomes damaged and unable to infect. You did not have a risk.
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.
Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.
Although you do NOT need to test over this incident, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.
If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!
Ann
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so ther presence of blood,which seemed quite bit, in her fluid is irrelivant
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Simon,
Yes, it's irrelevant. If you had unprotected intercourse, we would be advising you to test at three months. However, you did not have a risk and you do not need to test.
Ann
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Hi got a blowjob of a girl and noticed she had inflamed red gums,a few teeth missing and her tongue seemed spotty and scarred with maybe the presence of blood.Is there any risk of HIV from receiving an unprotected blowjob like this wher there may have been blood in her mouth?
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No risk to you.
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Even with blood ,spots and marks on her tongue
At one stage she even used cold beer in her mouth though mostly she didnt while performing blowjob
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Not even with a cold beer blowjob.
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Ok ...so do I need an HIV test due to this blowjob incident ?
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Are you listening? You didn't have a risk. You don't need to test for HIV.
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so is receiving a blowjob even if the oral hygiene of the person giving the blowjob is suspect risky in terms of HIV
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You cannot contract HIV from receiving a blowjob, even if the giver has poor oral hygiene.
MtD
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I remember seeing she had some teeth missing and some blood and spots and marks on her tongue
At one stage shel used cold beer in her mouth while performing the blowjob,but in the main it was just a regular blowjob
Im sure I saw a response once from Ann where she mentioned blood in the mouth of the giver as a risk
Is this really no risk
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Ann said that? I doubt it. Perhaps you can provide a link to where Ann said that.
Simon, I'm not going to go over this with you ad nauseum. No matter how many teeth this enchanting creature you refer to was missing, nor how many ridiculous scenarios you conjure up (cold beer? get real) my answers to you will not change.
You cannot get HIV from copping a blowjob.
MtD
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Ok sorry it was in this link http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=18542.0
But I think it was in reference to performing a blowjob...or hitting the person in the face whose giving the blowjob,thing is I did see some blood in her mouth.
Guess Im overreacting?
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In that thread Ann said:
Unless you're in the habit of punching someone in the mouth before they give you a blowjob, or gnawing and biting down hard on knobs when you give, then you're not going to encounter any dangerous amounts of blood.
Her meaning is clear. The amounts of blood involved would have to be so extreme that oral sex would, in reality, not be happening.
You most certainly are over-reacting Simon.
MtD
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so there would have to be copious amounts not just the visible amount I saw?
even in the extreme case mentioned has there ever been an hiv infection involving getting a blowjobRisk maybe higher if ejaculation takes place orally.
Also Andy says in the link http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=18827.0 .....Risk maybe higher if ejaculation takes place orally. Or if the person giving oral has poor oral care or a recent wound in their mouth. ...... is this just on relation to giving a blowjob not receiving?
Also we were deep kissing and I noticed my mouth may have had blood in it from a cut or gum and we possible exchanged blood that way,is this an hiv risk?
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Simon,
I believe I told you earlier that I have no intention getting into an endless round of what-iffing with you. Rod, Ann and I have explained to you at length that you were not at risk of HIV infection from the scenario you outlined in your OP and why this is the case.
Clearly you have serious anxiety about HIV and sexual behaviours in general and you should seek face-to-face attention from a mental health professional for that.
Seriously. Don't push your luck with this stuff. You won't be permitted to post obsessively about non-risk situations.
Ya dig?
MtD
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Ok sorry I understand
What does "OP" mean please
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Original Post. The post you made to kick off this thread.
MtD
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Ok but the orignal post was on the matter of vaginal fluid with blood.
Im talking about the blowjob scenario,is this what you mean about latest thread,the blowjob one
Thanks
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I mean ALL OF IT Simon. Everything you've raised. We're not in the business of mucking around here, kiddo. We've read everything you've posted and our answers are based on the whole lot. Blood in mouths, vaginas, where-the-fuck-ever.
You were not at risk. You do not need to test. You do not have HIV.
MtD
(Who trusts he will not have to repeat himself)
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Simon,
You've been told repeatedly that getting a blowjob is not in any way, shape or form a risk for hiv infection.
If you insist on coming back with more what-ifs, you'll be given a time out. If you've read the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) like you've been asked to, you will have read the following:
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
Please consider yourself warned.
Ann
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Ok understood,can you finally just answer if kissing is an HIV risk ,I noticed there may have been blood in my mouth and hers after deep kissing
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No, kissing is not a risk. PERIOD...Story is over.
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Ok thanks...
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One absolutely final thing in relation to all the scenarios outlined.I have in the past had outbreaks of genital herpes,I do not remember one at the time but if there was one would it have increased my HIV risk in all the activities I have posted?
Also while working with someone we both cut our hands and touched is this a HIV risk?
Many thanks
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simon,
No, nothing was a risk, genital herpes or no genital herpes.
I'm giving you that time out I warned you about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.
Ann