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Title: Question about hiv transmission
Post by: bethbee on June 16, 2013, 09:46:22 pm
Hi everybody

i have question about HIV transmission, which i think i already know answer to but was curious after reading a older post on here and someone said that the fluid that can transmit HIV is up near the cervix...

my question

for example, is someone had blood on their hands and stuck their fingers up my vagina... and touched the cervix or close to the cervix could that transmit HIV
and if not why?

thank you.
Title: Re: Question about hiv transmission
Post by: jkinatl2 on June 16, 2013, 10:00:56 pm
Hi everybody

i have question about HIV transmission, which i think i already know answer to but was curious after reading a older post on here and someone said that the fluid that can transmit HIV is up near the cervix...

my question

for example, is someone had blood on their hands and stuck their fingers up my vagina... and touched the cervix or close to the cervix could that transmit HIV
and if not why?

thank you.


This would not facilitate in HIV transmission, as fingering as never been implicated in GIV. WHat I do not understand, however, is your inclusion of the potentially infectious fluids located in the cervovaginal area.

Those fluids are a risk to the urethra of a male, and if they are infectious, that would mean that you have HIV already. I am a little confused at your inclusion of this information.



Title: Re: Question about hiv transmission
Post by: Jeff G on June 16, 2013, 10:09:32 pm

HIV is transmitted from unprotected vaginal and anal sex , from sharing IV drug injection equipment and from mother to child during childbirth . It really is that simple . 
Title: Re: Question about hiv transmission
Post by: bethbee on June 16, 2013, 10:25:43 pm
This would not facilitate in HIV transmission, as fingering as never been implicated in GIV. WHat I do not understand, however, is your inclusion of the potentially infectious fluids located in the cervovaginal area.

Those fluids are a risk to the urethra of a male, and if they are infectious, that would mean that you have HIV already. I am a little confused at your inclusion of this information.


No sorry- i do not have HIV i didn't mean that it was infectious fluids, but i read in another post by jeff g that
The secretions in a vagina that become infected with HIV is in the mucosal tissue near the cervix,
http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=48284.msg585689#msg585689

or is that something completely different.

 so was a bit concerned if someone's blood mixed with these that maybe i could become infected with hiv that way.


Title: Re: Question about hiv transmission
Post by: Jeff G on June 16, 2013, 10:40:42 pm
If a woman has HIV the virus resides around the cervix are a risk to the urethra of a male  . JK was correct , no one has ever been infected with HIV from fingering a vagina .

Title: Re: Question about hiv transmission
Post by: bethbee on June 16, 2013, 11:13:28 pm
Ok thanks,

One last question

*hypothetically if a girl was on her period and got fingered by someone with blood/cut on hand would it still be no risk*

ive read that hiv transmission is more likely to occur right before/during and after period.

thanks :) you both have been very helpful. xx :)
Title: Re: Question about hiv transmission
Post by: Jeff G on June 16, 2013, 11:29:56 pm
Bethbee , you have been told HIV is transmitted from unprotected vaginal and anal sex , from sharing IV drug injection equipment and from mother to child during childbirth and not from fingering .

Quite frankly I'm not sure what to make of you questions what logic you are using to frame them with  . If you use condoms consistently and correctly for vaginal and anal sex you will avoid HIV ... its beautifully simple . 
Title: Re: Question about hiv transmission
Post by: jkinatl2 on June 16, 2013, 11:39:16 pm
Ok thanks,

One last question

*hypothetically if a girl was on her period and got fingered by someone with blood/cut on hand would it still be no risk*

ive read that hiv transmission is more likely to occur right before/during and after period.

thanks :) you both have been very helpful. xx :)

You must realize that any theoretical danger from a menstruating woman would be to the male, if the woman is HIV positive with a high viral load. It makes absolutely no sense why a menstruating HIV negative woman would be at any risk from an HIV positive male's finger, tongue, or anything except an uncovered penis.

Title: Re: Question about hiv transmission
Post by: Ann on June 17, 2013, 06:35:57 am
Beth,

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.

Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. This is why fingering, regardless of what bodily fluids are on that finger, is NOT  a risk for hiv infection. For the fluid to be ON the finger, it has to be OUTSIDE the body.

If a guy were to cut the tip of his finger off before inserting it into your vagina, then you might have a problem as the blood would be pumping directly from the inside of his body into the inside of your body. Get it?

Don't let any guy cut the tip of his finger off before fingering you and you'll be ok. Fingering is NOT a risk for hiv infection, except perhaps in a horror movie where some deranged guy goes around cutting off the tips of his fingers and..... he'd run out of fingers pretty quickly.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST FOR HIV SPECIFICALLY OVER FINGERING, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann