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Title: Start to lose patient on waiting
Post by: hahaha on April 05, 2007, 01:05:33 pm

I know that this shall not post on "Research News and Studies", but somehow, I start to lose patient on waiting for the vaccine while most of the research are aimed at preventive instead of therapeutic,   I know that the market of billion's un-infected is much more important then us, few infected.  But sometimes I wonder, for those preventive vaccine, can they also open the same clinical trial for the infected as well (ex. Trial on Haart patient where virus load is un-detectable?).

Can they just invent sometime so we can get rid of that god damned HARRT first, even if sitll not completely "cure"?

My patient is almost used up.......

Title: Re: Start to lose patient on waiting
Post by: bimazek on April 05, 2007, 06:51:51 pm

there are many trials for therapuadic vaccines while on haart

what city are you in, can you do a search online for your city

there are many in california, nyc, boston, etc

go to the nearest big universities that have hiv research and find out

i think most all the vaccines are being planned for therapy not just prevention

but the initial test is better on non infected mice etc

it is easier to study vaccine in non infected see if it does anything

so any vaccine that is preventative i believe by the nature of what a vaccines is will be a very very strong candidade for treatment also

Title: Re: Start to lose patient on waiting
Post by: HIVworker on April 05, 2007, 07:17:03 pm

40 million people is hardly "few"

R

Title: Re: Start to lose patient on waiting
Post by: Jake72 on April 05, 2007, 07:27:25 pm

Quote from: bimazek on April 05, 2007, 06:51:51 pm

there are many trials for therapuadic vaccines while on haart

I think what Hahaha is asking is whether there are any therapeutic vaccines in trials without HAART (and/or that would allow us to discontinue or avoid HAART).   It seems to me that there are a few, from what I've read in this forum. 

On this subject,  I'm familiar with some of the trials involving therapeutic vaccines and HAART, and what I wonder is how can they distinguish the effects of the therapeutic vaccine from those of HAART?  I mean, I'm on HAART and am undetectable.  If I received one of these vaccines while on HAART, I'd presumably be just as undetectable.   That wouldn't say anything about the vaccine in question.  The  only way to find out whether a vaccine really works is to try it on its own.