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Re: 16 down, 34 to go...
« Reply #300 on: January 17, 2015, 11:34:57 pm »
A medical power of attorney solves that issue, married or not I would think.

It should and usually does, but (just like wills) they can be fought by a family member and if you don't have it in hand in an emergency, some docs/hospitals will not take your word for it.  If a "real" family member is around, they will get to make the decisions.
I had a copy of my medical power of attorney in my medical file with all my doctors and any hospital that I ever went to for some much as a test, just to ensure that it be on file for Sid if he ever needed it.  Marriage does it make more "sure", as I've never heard of anyone being asked to produce a marriage certificate in an emergency.
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« Reply #301 on: January 17, 2015, 11:40:31 pm »
It should and usually does, but (just like wills) they can be fought by a family member and if you don't have it in hand in an emergency, some docs/hospitals will not take your word for it.  If a "real" family member is around, they will get to make the decisions.
I had a copy of my medical power of attorney in my medical file with all my doctors and any hospital that I ever went to for some much as a test, just to ensure that it be on file for Sid if he ever needed it.  Marriage does it make more "sure", as I've never heard of anyone being asked to produce a marriage certificate in an emergency.
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So True . The case in Alabama that is going to federal court is about two guys married in Boston Mass. … they had power of attorneys and marriage license and living will but when one of them was dieting in the hospital it was not enough to convince the staff and the guys didn’t get the farewell or dignity they deserved . Nothing short of equality will stop things like this from happening .
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Re: 16 down, 34 to go...
« Reply #302 on: January 18, 2015, 12:09:34 am »
just seen on the news tonight that the Supreme Court (USA) will be addressing this

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Re: 16 down, 34 to go...
« Reply #303 on: January 23, 2015, 08:52:19 pm »
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

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Re: 16 down, 34 to go...
« Reply #304 on: January 23, 2015, 09:01:31 pm »
Jeff, let's get married.

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« Reply #305 on: January 23, 2015, 09:09:02 pm »
Jeff, let's get married.

Do you have a dowery ?
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Re: 16 down, 34 to go...
« Reply #306 on: January 23, 2015, 09:39:55 pm »
Do you have a dowery ?

Rumor has it that he has a BIG one..........

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« Reply #307 on: January 23, 2015, 09:52:07 pm »
Rumor has it that he has a BIG one..........

Dowery or kickstand ?
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« Reply #308 on: January 23, 2015, 10:26:21 pm »
Dowery or kickstand ?

Both, I hear - but without visual proof, it's all heresey

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Re: 16 down, 34 to go...
« Reply #309 on: January 24, 2015, 12:23:53 am »
My dowry has gone up and down, over the last decade.  It is back up, with a lot of growth.  I think you'll be very pleased, when you deposit it.  I hope it all fits into your account, without you having to report it as in-come. 

Ok, I was really stretching it-- no pun intended.


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« Reply #310 on: January 24, 2015, 07:41:29 am »
My dowry has gone up and down, over the last decade.  It is back up, with a lot of growth.  I think you'll be very pleased, when you deposit it.  I hope it all fits into your account, without you having to report it as in-come. 

Ok, I was really stretching it-- no pun intended.



Well that's the best offer I had in while  ;)
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« Reply #311 on: January 30, 2015, 10:47:21 am »
I just read this reply to a right wing christian on a message board and it was so full of win I had to share it ...


The typical line from the religious side of the same sex marriage issue goes something like this: “stop shoving your gay agenda down our throats”. In the same breath, they go on to say, “You don’t see us shoving our religion down your throat”.

Well then…

Have you ever had a homosexual knock on your door (usually around dinner time) asking if you have found Elton John?

Have homosexuals ever passed laws that make the government print “In Homosexuality We Trust” on your money?

When was the last time homosexuals passed a law that rewrote the Pledge of Allegiance to say, “One Homosexual Nation”?

Have homosexuals erected a monument with Marc Jacobs’ top 10 fashion commandments at your local courthouse?

Have any homosexual groups spent millions trying to pass laws to outlaw marriage between a woman and a man?

Have homosexual activists worked to pass laws limiting birth control, abortion, etc?

Did a homosexual ever prevent you from buying liquor or a car on Sunday?

Is there a book promoting homosexuality in almost every hotel room in the country?

Have homosexuals pushed for laws to make the missionary position illegal?

Have homosexuals tried to pass a law allowing them to legally refuse service to Christians?

When was the last time you saw a group of homosexuals protest at a Marine’s funeral carrying signs that say God hates Christians?

This is what they call keeping their religion to themselves? Sheesh…
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Re: 16 down, 34 to go...
« Reply #312 on: February 10, 2015, 07:51:26 am »
In Alabama, in response to some courthouse employees refusing to perform marriage ceremonies for anyone now. From what I gather, the parking lot of the courthouse hosted others like her willing to perform ceremonies for one and all.


Reality is frequently inaccurate.

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« Reply #313 on: February 10, 2015, 07:53:37 am »
That sign she is holding is just to lure you close enough so she can cold cock you with her bible .
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« Reply #314 on: February 10, 2015, 08:12:15 am »
That sign she is holding is just to lure you close enough so she can cold cock you with her bible .

Does Roy Moore allow Alabama residents to say "cock"?  Surely your constitution says you will burn in hell for thinking such things..... 

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« Reply #315 on: February 10, 2015, 08:25:29 am »
Does Roy Moore allow Alabama residents to say "cock"?  Surely your constitution says you will burn in hell for thinking such things..... 

I have a moat around the house LOL .
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« Reply #316 on: February 10, 2015, 10:21:50 am »
Unfortunately the constitution of Alabama is chock full of embarrassing things still. I think it still states that segregated schools are A-OK.
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Re: 16 down, 34 to go...
« Reply #317 on: February 11, 2015, 12:57:38 pm »
This article from The Atlantic does a good job of explaining away Alabama. 

Of course my inner voice dismisses it all as simple backwoods bigotry.


http://m.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/why-alabama-trails-the-rest-of-the-country-on-gay-marriage/385349/

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« Reply #318 on: February 11, 2015, 01:27:50 pm »
This article from The Atlantic does a good job of explaining away Alabama. 

Of course my inner voice dismisses it all as simple backwoods bigotry.


http://m.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/why-alabama-trails-the-rest-of-the-country-on-gay-marriage/385349/



I always figured you as one to hear voices in your head .
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« Reply #319 on: February 12, 2015, 12:46:28 pm »
What a fucking embarrassment regardless of the subject matter. Only Alabama and Mississippi would try stunts like this -- even South Carolina buckled appropriately.

The chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court insisted Thursday he will continue to resist efforts to implement same-sex marriage in his state, even if the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of same-sex marriage later this year.

Chief Justice Roy Moore likened an eventual U.S. Supreme Court ruling in favor of same-sex marriage to the Dred Scott ruling and Plessy v. Ferguson, two 19th century Supreme Court rulings that upheld slavery and segregation, respectively.

"If it's an unlawful mandate you can refuse to mandate it. You can dissent to the United States Supreme Court," Moore said in a testy interview with CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "I will follow the law as I interpret it."
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« Reply #320 on: February 12, 2015, 01:30:19 pm »
What a fucking embarrassment regardless of the subject matter. Only Alabama and Mississippi would try stunts like this -- even South Carolina buckled appropriately.

The chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court insisted Thursday he will continue to resist efforts to implement same-sex marriage in his state, even if the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of same-sex marriage later this year.

Chief Justice Roy Moore likened an eventual U.S. Supreme Court ruling in favor of same-sex marriage to the Dred Scott ruling and Plessy v. Ferguson, two 19th century Supreme Court rulings that upheld slavery and segregation, respectively.

"If it's an unlawful mandate you can refuse to mandate it. You can dissent to the United States Supreme Court," Moore said in a testy interview with CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "I will follow the law as I interpret it."


Its Alabama and Miss., would you expect anything different LOL .

For those who do not remember Judge Roy Moore was already thrown out of office for refusing to obey the federal courts and I expect he may be thrown out again… and then reelected .

I live in this god awful state and will be the first to admit that Alabama deserves every bit of crap it gets … it seems to work hard to earn it, thats for sure . I want to stay in this state to help care for my Ma who has Alzheimer’s but the sad part is I may not have it in me to move away again the way my health is going these days.
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« Reply #321 on: February 12, 2015, 04:52:50 pm »
Roy Moore should not only be impeached, but he should also be disbarred.  He is showing such a transparent disregard to the rule of law, that his standing as on officer of the court is gone. 
If he gets disbarred, one must assume that, EVEN in Alabama, he would be ineligible to run for any judgeship.
Not to mention, I am sure that Moore would have gladly enforced both Dred Scott and Plessy vs. Fergusson.  So an "unlawful mandate" is only seen from his POV........  ::)  Virginia is not, by any stretch, the most progressive state -- but at least it ain't Alabamy

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« Reply #322 on: February 12, 2015, 06:01:16 pm »
Alabama GOP chief says gay marriage will incur God's wrath, but state is already hellbound

 ::) :-X

Roy's Facebook page is a lot of ego-focused fun as well. Just another day doing the Lord's work.
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« Reply #323 on: February 12, 2015, 06:04:54 pm »
My favorite part of that was …
Proverbs says "put a knife to your throat if you are given to appetite." Been to the Golden Corral lately?

It goes on to say "be not among drunkards or among gluttonous eaters of meat."

But Alabama is the second fattest state in a fat America.
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« Reply #324 on: February 12, 2015, 10:08:18 pm »
Here's Jon Stewart

http://youtu.be/tl5QhKxUyXU
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« Reply #325 on: February 12, 2015, 11:06:56 pm »
And now a timely commentary from The League of the South...
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« Reply #326 on: February 12, 2015, 11:55:48 pm »
Alabama redneck (redundant?) news on gay marriage.

http://youtu.be/2hJQFX0Wn58

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« Reply #327 on: February 14, 2015, 01:51:17 am »
Justice Ginsberg admitted some wine with dinner is what caused her to nod off during the State of the Union.  She had dinner with Justice Kennedy and he brought wine. She said Justice Souter use to give her a pinch, when she began to fall asleep.  Of course, some in comment sections are now questioning her ability to rule on cases.

I love her honesty.  Best story I read this week. 

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« Reply #328 on: March 02, 2015, 11:40:03 am »
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« Reply #329 on: March 02, 2015, 05:11:12 pm »
But, the conservatives aren't going down without trying and succeeding to get discrimination into law. 

Michigan's House passed a bill, which is so broad, that it could allow EMTs and ER docs to refuse to treat gay patients.  Apparently, this is already legal.  When a lesbian couple's doctor refused to treat their newborn, she didn't do anything illegal.  The AMA doesn't have specific rules on this. They just make a recommendation to not discriminate against gays or anyone. 

A pharmacist could potentially refuse to refill HIV meds, believing the virus is god's punishment.  I thought this couldn't be true.  I checked out Snopes and they say the bill, if it becomes law, could allow all this.  Can you imagine an ER doc or EMT having the legal right to not treat someone who is gay or transgendered?  I guess you'd just bleed out, while they try to get another to do it.  Surely those good Christians would make changes to the bills, to make it so medical personnel cannot use the religious exemption. 

I believe Arkansas' bill has become law.  Indiana has a bill in the works now.  The republican controlled senate here in KY passed a bill, which would force transgendered students to use the bathroom of the sex on their birth certificate. 

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« Reply #330 on: March 02, 2015, 05:28:16 pm »
But, the conservatives aren't going down without trying and succeeding to get discrimination into law. 

Michigan's House passed a bill, which is so broad, that it could allow EMTs and ER docs to refuse to treat gay patients.  Apparently, this is already legal.  When a lesbian couple's doctor refused to treat their newborn, she didn't do anything illegal.  The AMA doesn't have specific rules on this. They just make a recommendation to not discriminate against gays or anyone. 

A pharmacist could potentially refuse to refill HIV meds, believing the virus is god's punishment.  I thought this couldn't be true.  I checked out Snopes and they say the bill, if it becomes law, could allow all this.  Can you imagine an ER doc or EMT having the legal right to not treat someone who is gay or transgendered?  I guess you'd just bleed out, while they try to get another to do it.  Surely those good Christians would make changes to the bills, to make it so medical personnel cannot use the religious exemption. 

I believe Arkansas' bill has become law.  Indiana has a bill in the works now.  The republican controlled senate here in KY passed a bill, which would force transgendered students to use the bathroom of the sex on their birth certificate. 

I don't get too fired up any longer about most of those attempts from the republicdumbs as they will be found unconstitutional in the court system. This is the age of acceptance and the nuts writing these laws will soon find that their constituents that are now supporting them are a dying breed.

Another reason is I believe the marriage issue will be resolved this year allowing the HRC to focus more of their energy and $$ toward this type of discrimination. They have done a pretty good job along the way.

I do worry more for the transgendered community. I'm afraid it's going to be a long haul for them.  :(

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« Reply #331 on: March 02, 2015, 06:27:07 pm »


I do worry more for the transgendered community. I'm afraid it's going to be a long haul for them.  :(



I could not agree with this more … Until the rights of the transgender community are realized the work is not finished and I hope people do not lose sight of this .

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« Reply #332 on: March 03, 2015, 10:13:27 pm »
Late tonight, the Alabama Supreme Court ordered a halt to same-sex marriages. 

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/03/alabama_supreme_court_orders_h.html

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« Reply #333 on: March 03, 2015, 10:16:37 pm »
Late tonight, the Alabama Supreme Court ordered a halt to same-sex marriages. 

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/03/alabama_supreme_court_orders_h.html

How can they do that after the fed court ruled and the supreme court refused to hear the appeal ?
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« Reply #334 on: March 03, 2015, 10:29:05 pm »
How can they do that after the fed court ruled and the supreme court refused to hear the appeal ?

Well, they can't -- but since when has any law that goes contrary to Roy Moore's religious belief stopped him. 
This is all about creating hurdles -- those justices know that, in the end, the Fed courts overrule state courts. 
It will get really interesting once the SCOTUS make their ruling!  I hope they see the anarchy going on in some places and issue their ruling as soon as they can -- vs. waiting until the end of the term.

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« Reply #335 on: March 03, 2015, 10:36:39 pm »
I put my foot in my mouth the other day with my mom but she laughed it off … I told her I was out of this state when she dies … not the most sensitive thing to blurt out to your MA who is struggling with Alzheimer's but that is how frustrated I am with this state .
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« Reply #336 on: March 03, 2015, 10:56:15 pm »
They'll get put back in their place , don't worry.
mean time you gonna register at the Cracker Barrel ,
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« Reply #337 on: March 04, 2015, 10:46:01 am »
How can they do that after the fed court ruled and the supreme court refused to hear the appeal ?

Because that's generally how the (Deep) South operates when they don't get their way.
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« Reply #338 on: March 04, 2015, 10:50:21 am »
Because that's generally how the (Deep) South operates when they don't get their way.

Alabama, Mississippi and Arkansas ... they all have a sad history of doing these things and lack the moral compass to know better . 
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« Reply #339 on: March 04, 2015, 11:00:04 am »
Sounds like a repeat of the 60s .
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« Reply #340 on: March 04, 2015, 11:25:36 am »
everytime some rebel starts spouting off about states rights i want to bash them over the head

we lost the fucking war, and glad of it too

exactly which states right were we supposedly fighting for? that excuse is always a deflection from the obvious racism and bigotry they are really talking

a states rights to have slavery/segregation/anti gay everything... it's never a righteous cause with them

buy bull beating ignorant asses have made us the laughing stock of the country for years, i'm so damn tired of it

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« Reply #341 on: March 06, 2015, 08:57:04 am »
Court to release same-day audio for same-sex marriage cases

The audio recording of the Supreme Court’s April 28 hearing on the same-sex marriage cases will be released soon after that hearing is completed, the Court announced on Thursday.  Both the audiotape and the written transcript should be available by no later than 2 p.m., the Court said.

The Court’s usual practice, changed only occasionally, is to release the audiotapes for the entire week at the end of the week.

Here is the text of the Court’s news release on its plans for the same-sex marriage cases:

“The Court will provide the audio recording and transcript of the oral argument in 14-556, Obergefell v. Hodges, and consolidated cases, on an expedited basis through the Court’s Website. The argument is scheduled to be heard on Tuesday, April 28 from 10 a.m. until 12:30 p.m.

“The Court will post the audio recording and unofficial transcript as soon as the digital files are available for uploading to the Website.  The audio recording and transcript should be available no later than 2 p.m. on April 28.

“Anyone interested in the proceedings will be able to access the recording and transcript directly through links on the homepage of the Court’s Website. The Court’s Website address is www.supremecourt.gov.”
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« Reply #342 on: March 06, 2015, 09:16:43 am »
i don't understand why all SC proceedings aren't live simulcast on big screens from coast to coast

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« Reply #343 on: March 06, 2015, 09:20:31 am »
i don't understand why all SC proceedings aren't live simulcast on big screens from coast to coast

The SC has no problem with cameras in the courtroom, except in the SC. They are a little full of themselves at times .
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« Reply #344 on: March 10, 2015, 12:53:50 am »
Interesting to see the numbers of repubs, who identify with the teabaggers.  I thought they were for getting government out of our lives-- the whole "Don't Tread On Me" thing.

"Almost six in ten Americans say they favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to enter into same-sex marriages, the highest level of support ever recorded in a NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

In the new survey released Monday, 59 percent of Americans said that they favor same-sex marriages while just 33 percent said they oppose them.

View the full poll results here.

The numbers have shifted dramatically in the past decade. In 2004, only 30 percent of Americans said they supported same-sex marriage, while 62 percent disagreed. Half of those polled at the time said they strongly opposed allowing gays and lesbians to marry.

Democratic pollster Fred Yang noted how quickly public opinion has shifted on the issue, even compared to interracial marriage, which is now almost universally accepted.

"It took about 25 years for interracial marriage to get from 30 percent support to 60 percent," he said. "It took same-sex marriage ten years."

The share of the public backing same-sex marriage has even jumped from just two years ago, when 53 percent of Americans backed it and 42 percent did not.

That's due in part to big increases in support among Republicans (up 13 percent since 2013), seniors (up seven percent), and Hispanics (up 18 percent).

Americans who say they have gay or lesbian family members, co-workers or acquaintances are also more likely to back same-sex marriage. Seventy-seven percent of people now report that they personally know or work with someone who is gay or lesbian, up from 62 percent in 2004. Of those who know someone who is gay, 65 percent say they favor marriage rights for same-sex couples.

Most GOP primary voters are not on board with allowing same-sex marriage, with 40 percent favoring it and 53 percent opposing it. But there's a major difference between Republicans who identify with the Tea Party (24 percent favor/64 percent oppose) and those who don't (49 percent favor/47 percent oppose.)"

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/59-support-same-sex-marriage-hits-new-high-n320171
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Re: 16 down, 34 to go...
« Reply #345 on: March 10, 2015, 09:45:32 pm »
In the 70s you couldn't even be gay with out fear
Of being fired from your job , arrested for being in a gay bar,
beaten, or worse.

We've come a long way, this looks like an obvious slam dunk ,because these
Are are rights ! Not that easy ,until the Feds enforce all states , nation wide,
We still have a fight, the haters will not give up easily.
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