I dunno, I guess as a born and bred Democrat, I'll never really get the logic.
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So the teabaggers and republicans cried a river to get elected. Time will prove as in the past, they still haven't fixed shit.Neither did the democrats. How did the DADT go? How did the gay marriage go? Simple promises that he couldn't even take care of.
Neither did the democrats. How did the DADT go? How did the gay marriage go? Simple promises that he couldn't even take care of.So Roddy, what do you think you will have if the republicans get rid of health care and make the gays all hide quaking under a rug because retaliation and retribution are the norm? The republican right wing wack jobs and the nut case Rand Paul have already said they would introduce legislation to repeal healthcare. >:( Every side has to give and take. ;) Dems gave a little to get a lot done in a short while. ;D Republicans never have done shit but bitch because the democrats can run someone attractive and smart enough to get a blow job and they can't, started an expensive war both in $ and lives that can't find the weapons of mass destruction they claimed were there to start with; and then they bitch about expenses????? Give me a break! ::)
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Are those for John Boehner as he cries for the 27th time?Nah it's for all the democratic liberals that lost their seats and for Obama.
Nah it's for all the democratic liberals that lost their seats and for Obama.
Really? I mean, you actually posted this? I know you've been gone a while, but this seems to reek of someone just attempting to stir shit and calling it political discourse.Really? You don't like it when people don't agree with you? Apparently you didn't see the election result. It seems that a whole hell of a lot of people didn't agree with you.
Really? You don't like it when people don't agree with you? Apparently you didn't see the election result. It seems that a whole hell of a lot of people didn't agree with you.
... I do have my conservative leanings, but most of them are financial. This of course ignoring the fact that the republicans are no longer the party of fiscal responsibility. ...
You can refer to my previous post to which your reply has absolutely nothing to do in the way of a coherent conversation.I don't think you read the reply that he was responding too.....don't jump the gun. As for Johnny, who has time to count how many times he has cried? It could be better spent I am sure.
Frankly all this bickering about Repubs and Dems and who's right and who's wrong is just chatter in my opinion.
I worry about my brothers and sisters in the midst of the ADAP crisis, those who have just been kicked off or who are on waiting lists. Those who have to go to bed and wonder where they are going to get their Meds and If they are going to be alive next year. I had high hopes for "change" under Obama and a Democratic Congress...but in 2 years very little has been done to address the ADAP problem, and I'm MAD over that! The Democrats have shown that they are going to do nothing to address this Crisis and it's obvious they dont intend to do anything about it (until maybe 3 years from now)so it's time for them to go!!
Will the Repubs do anything about it? Don't know but at least history shows that they've tried...Repub Pres (2006?) appropriated emergency funds to clear ADAP waiting lists...2010- 4 Repub senators submitted the The Access ADAP Act, also known as S.3401, which would have allocated $126 million to clear the waiting lists NOW, it fell on the deaf ears of a Democratic Pres and Congress and was never even acknowledged.
I'm not ashamed to be a one-issue man. I'm not Repub or Dem, I'm for a group who will help out my brothers and sisters. If I needed only one reason to fire the Democrats that would be it. I may feel the same about the Repubs in 2 years, but time will tell.
-Will
“I'm trying to figure out what these people could possibly be doing to earn this kind of money? $50,000000 in one year for one person? Isn't that like $12,000/hr, if they work 80 hours a week?
As if to underscore this theme, it was revealed last week (by David Cay Johnston, a Pulitzer Prize-winning former reporter for The New York Times), that the incomes of the very highest earners in the United States, a small group of individuals hauling in more than $50 million annually (sometimes much more), increased fivefold from 2008 to 2009, even as the nation was being rocked by the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.
Asshole teabagger should quit what he is doing and go get that job a McDonalds and see how long he can maintain his wonderful lifestyle of nice home, insurance and gas hog SUV. Prick would be crying the instant he saw his first paycheck.There are not enough jobs since a lot of the democratics are going to be pushing to the front of the lines at the unemployment office. Bush didn't have anything to do with this midterm elections and there weren't enough teaparty people to pull this off. So as Obama admitted Wednesday he takes full responsibilty for the election results, which is rightly so. Let's bring up the trip to Asia, and your concerns about ADAP funding. How much money will be spent on this trip and will it be a failure like the pitch for the Olympics? Like with the elections we'll have to wait and see.
Let's bring up the trip to Asia, and your concerns about ADAP funding. How much money will be spent on this trip and will it be a failure like the pitch for the Olympics? Like with the elections we'll have to wait and see.
It's amazing how much of a sucker for propaganda you always are. Reminds me of your hatchet job with Gov. Rendell's fictitious baby killing factory in Harrisburg. Why anyone here doesn't dismiss 110% of your political posts is beyond me (oh wait, most people do!)Don't cry Ms P because your state flipped. :)
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201011040049
(also see related links below the clip)
Frankly all this bickering about Repubs and Dems and who's right and who's wrong is just chatter in my opinion.
I worry about my brothers and sisters in the midst of the ADAP crisis, those who have just been kicked off or who are on waiting lists. Those who have to go to bed and wonder where they are going to get their Meds and If they are going to be alive next year. I had high hopes for "change" under Obama and a Democratic Congress...but in 2 years very little has been done to address the ADAP problem, and I'm MAD over that! The Democrats have shown that they are going to do nothing to address this Crisis and it's obvious they dont intend to do anything about it (until maybe 3 years from now)so it's time for them to go!!
Will the Repubs do anything about it? Don't know but at least history shows that they've tried...Repub Pres (2006?) appropriated emergency funds to clear ADAP waiting lists...2010- 4 Repub senators submitted the The Access ADAP Act, also known as S.3401, which would have allocated $126 million to clear the waiting lists NOW, it fell on the deaf ears of a Democratic Pres and Congress and was never even acknowledged.
I'm not ashamed to be a one-issue man. I'm not Repub or Dem, I'm for a group who will help out my brothers and sisters. If I needed only one reason to fire the Democrats that would be it. I may feel the same about the Repubs in 2 years, but time will tell.
-Will
Don't cry Ms P because your state flipped. :)
Is that the best you can do after another of your factually challenged assertions? Typical trolling, and pathetic.Is it not a fact Ms P that Pennsylvania flipped to Republican?
ps: hats off to Assurbanipal, including many points I've tried repeatedly to make about the current ADAP crisis the past four or so months none of which seems to gain much traction, or is fo only for five minutes. Fortunately his post there was more succinct than what I've attempted.
***blathertrolling***
Please retract your transparently partisan right wing hack assertion made at 12:52:11 PM (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=35110.msg437508#msg437508)Did Penn. flip or not?. Did I say how much the trip cost? No, I said we will have to wait and see.
Wall Street Journal (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/11/04/fuzzy-math-dogs-obamas-asia-trip/)
Fuzzy Math Dogs Obama’s Asia Trip
By Jonathan Weisman
As if Tuesday’s shellacking wasn’t enough, President Barack Obama is getting pilloried by the right on the cost of his 10-day trip to Asia, with outlandish hyperventilation going directly from suspect Indian media reports to conservative U.S. media outlets and commentators without a pause for fact-checking.
First, the Press Trust of India reported that Mr. Obama’s entourage would be spending $200 million a day for two days in India, a claim that was quickly repeated last night by Rep. Michele Bachmann (R., Minn.) on CNN. White House spokesman Tommy Vietor said, “The numbers reported in this article have no basis in reality,” and are “wildly inflated,” but “due to security concerns,” he would not offer an alternative price tag.
Snopes.com, a website devoted to myth busting, noted that even if the Indian press has correctly reported the size of the president’s entourage – 3,000 – the cost would work out to $66,000 per person per day, “a figure that stretches credulity to the breaking point.” Factcheck.org noted that the entire war in Afghanistan costs $190 million a day.
But the report is demonstrably incorrect. It says the White House had blocked off the entire Taj Mahal Hotel in Mumbai – it hasn’t – and that the press traveling with Mr. Obama will be staying there. We won’t. Besides, the press pays its own way at considerable cost to the media outlets, not the U.S. taxpayer.
Now a new rumor has emerged courtesy of India’s NDTV. Mr. Obama, the outlet says, “will be protected by a fleet of 34 warships, including an aircraft carrier, which will patrol the sea lanes off the Mumbai coast.” The White House called that ridiculous. But on the conservative Drudge Report website, it’s on the home page – in huge type.
Still moving the goal posts I see and trying to make your faulty, erroneous statement about someone (or something) else. A simple reading by anyone here can see what you're doing (and attempt to do all of the time).I do believe Ms P you have got it all backwards. Enjoy your stay in your newly Republican state.
Roddles, you either have a very low IQ, dementia or you sniff glue all day. First you made a comment that we can't afford to fully fund ADAP because Obama is making a trip to India. I point out that this is erroneous information being sent out in a concerted manner by right wing blowhards like Beck, Limbaugh, etc which, as usual, you lap up without any sort of independent analysis (complete with factual links), then you try and move the goal posts with a comment about the election results in the state I live in, something that has no bearing at all on what's being discussed.I'll forgive you Ms P. :)
In short, you're a troll. And not a particularly compelling or savvy one at that. I'm going with "sniffs glue" if it's any consolation.
I fear I don't believe you are without political motives. Because, you see, if you really look at the last two years without blinders what happened in reality is this:
BTW, I voted for Bush
AND I voted for Obama.
BTW, I voted for Bush, AND I voted for Obama.
-Will
Yeah I'm guessing you did the Bush thing back in 2000.
You see people, this is why we can't have nice things. ::)
MtD
Yeah I'm guessing you did the Bush thing back in 2000.As if you live in the U.S..
You see people, this is why we can't have nice things. ::)
MtD
As if you live in the U.S..
Now Rodney don't be like that! :(Farmers? How about Ethanol producers those are the ones that get the tax credits along with auto manufactures that make and sell renewable/flex fuel using vehicles..
I often think about those who have died in the services of your nation. Purchasing their own kevlar vests and assorted protective gear whilst farmers collect corn ethanol credits at Uncle Sam's expense.
Must be a terrible burden for their families, don't ya think?
MtD
Farmers? How about Ethanol producers those are the ones that get the tax credits along with auto manufactures that make and sell renewable/flex fuel using vehicles..
Absolutely Rodney! They are such fucking parasites. >:(
Not like you, of course. Every cent that you earn is made from the sweat of your own brow. Not a single penny of taxpayer money goes into your pocket.
Frankly, you're an example to the rest of us. Out there labouring under a harsh Ohio sun earning your fucking keep.
I have no doubt that should a guvmint welfare type turn up at the door of your elegantly appointed trailer offering cheap cheques and Demmykrat flavoured ADAP, you send him off with a load of bird shot in his keister!
Truly you're an inspiration! You are theChristine O'DonnellRand Paul of these forums.
MtD
[/q]You want to knock the US Matty and the EU is in just as bad or worse shape. Matty the day that you pay for the keep of anyone in the US you let us know. Right now you don't know shit. :)
Rodney if you can find a single post where I have knocked the United States of a Miracle, I'll eat your hat.Why thank you Matty but I like it here thanks.. :)
Provided that hat is privately funded. The thought of an Obammy flavoured socialist hat passing my lips, well that just makes me wanna puke up my squirrel melt.
You're right about them EU types, all subsidies and state hand outs and able to work the quote function of a forum. They just make me sick. Fortunately in Australia we don't put up with that sort of crap.
Nor do we answer specific questions when they are put to us. No siree bob. We just pull our heads in our shells and pretend that facts and data and shit don't matter one little bit.
In that way, you'd make a great Australian. :)
MtD
Why thank you Matty but I like it here thanks.. :)
Another thread that will probably be locked down soon...
Well surely no one was stupid enough to vote for him twice, right? Bush)
I don't even think a priest could get me to confess if I had committed such a grave error of judgment. Maybe it was a Brain Fog moment before meds? Are you too young to remember when his do nothing daddy was president or how his running of the oil companies and ball team went? Here is a refresher course.
http://alaric3rh.home.sprynet.com/science/bceo.html
Can't seem to get this thing to do quote boxes without being backwards tonight. Gr.
Really Ray? Which one? I'm betting it's that shitty porn thread. It's been going for years with no regard for decency.
Or maybe the horse thread. I can see some cross over between the horse thread and the porn thread.
Horses always make me think of porn. I knew a horse that was totally into porn. Well not porn, he (and what a he!) was into french new wave cinema which is pretty much like porn except less boring.
The horse was ok, but he knew this mule who was a total slob. Wrecked three DVD players with oats.
It was quite a thing. Maybe Rod can get us cheap oats. :)
MtD
Political Motives? Frankly I could care less about who was in power for the last 2 years whether it be Obama, Bush or Mother Theresa...the Fact is that ADAP is still in crisis, and ultimately the responsibility lies at the feet of the current Congress and current President. Period.
BTW, I voted for Bush, AND I voted for Obama.
Did I absolutey state unequivocally that the Repubs would take care of this? No I did not. Re read my post.
This is the crap that pisses me off. Oh and this wonderful "Test and Treat" initiative, it should be called "Test and put you on the back burner cause we will not fund ADAP and we cannot even get the current people waiting on Meds" While I applaud the T&T initiative, I laugh because there are no means to "treat" the people. Do they think we are stupid? Apparently so.
Personal opinion only but I think it's going to be an interesting couple of years. If you find a whole lot of partisan sniping and a lot of posturing without actually doing anything interesting.
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The next thing on the agenda is trying to balance the budget, but aside from Ryan in WI the party line is do it without touching entitlements or defense. Since SS, Medicaid, and the Pentagon make up over 50% of our budget, the current agenda to balance the budget amounts to cutting spending not the 40% figure bandied about, but nearly 90%. That's right, if "discretionary spending" is 1.4 trillion dollars this year, and the deficit is nearly 1.2 trillion dollars, then it's a going out of business sale. Everything Must Go!
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If you aren't willing to reduce outlays, then you have to increase revenue. That means raising taxes. Hell, Congress doesn't even have the stomach to let a temporary tax cut expire at it's scheduled time, let alone actually raise taxes.
Instead, I think the Repubs will pursue a strategy of hounding the President and focus their efforts on getting him voted out in '12, as McConnell stated the other day. The risk of that tactic is the real possibility of alienating the very folks that just swept you back into office. Reagen and Clinton come to mind - both suffered pretty big mid-term losses in their first term. So does Truman - '46 was a clobbering, '48 was a sweep back the other way. I couldn't begin to predict if either of those models holds, or if the Repubs take both the Senate and the White House in '12.
I can say, though that if according to Madison gridlock is a worthy and desirable outcome, he would be proud of our current situation.
If you want to solve the ADAP crisis, you must look to each state and their contributions to the program. The reason there are waiting lists, is NOT because of Congress or the president, it is because of states that cut their funding.
Let me try this again. Federal funding for ADAP went up. State funding dropped on average 34%.
Obama and the Democrats attempted to provide more money to State budgets -- Senate Republicans stopped it.
No, but you clearly insinuated as much -- here's what you actually said
Will the Repubs do anything about it? Don't know but at least history shows that they've tried.....
But I do think the above is a pretty stupid statement.Of course not everyone with HIV is on ADAP. I never said otherwise. I assumed the reader would know this without stating the obvious. However I submit that even ONE person on a waiting list is too many.
What is wrong with it? It is all emotion and ignores a lot of actual facts on the ground
1) It assumes that the only access to treatment is through ADAP -- most people get treated through insurance. ADAP covers only about a third of people on treatment.
2) Even for those who would go on treatment and run up against a waiting list there are other options for treatment through foundations and other grants
3) There is a benefit for those who do not yet need treatment in knowing they are infected. A lot of studies show that once people know, they almost always take much better steps to prevent infection of their partners.
ADAPs nationally experienced unprecedented client growth from FY2008 to 2009 with an average monthly growth of 1,271 clients (an increase of 80 percent from FY2008 when the average monthly growth was 706 clients over FY2007).
-Will
If the Republicans are going to insist on the perverted rightwing anti sex education anti condom crap they insisted on during the sorryfull Bush years, they can expect the long term trend of increasing cases to continue to grow. Even the brain dead can figure out something as simple as that. Best chance a person will have to get increased funding in that case is if every congressman, senator and priest's daughters get HIV. Hate to say such a thing, but unless it hits home, it is not a priority. That is the part of the reason why they have all the criminal prosecution laws against HIVer's now. they don't want their own family slut infected, so they legislate against it, but I guarantee, if their wife and daughter and dad and Mom had HIV, they would do anything to help them.Oh right. It isn't the lack of education it's because people don't think and don't care.
What's needed is the EDUCATION of both State and Federal political leaders on the situation both Repub and Dems, and to a large extent the public in general. I bet that if you went up to 100 congressioanl members and asked them how many people were on ADAP waiting lists that perhaps maybe 10 would know what ADAP even was.
I believe that if the Political leaders of the US knew what was going on with the ADAP crisis we would have a better chance of getting it rectified. If not by compassion alone, then by a purely budgetary and common sense approach. ie. It is cheaper to fund ADAP fully and provide everyone who needs it life saving meds, than to treat them in the Emergency rooms over and over due to not having the virus udner control. Put money on the front end instead of the backend. If Obama would make one speech about the situation this would go far in shedding the light on the shadowy ADAP crisis. \
-Will
Oh right. It isn't the lack of education it's because people don't think and don't care.
What's needed is the EDUCATION of both State and Federal political leaders on the situation both Repub and Dems, and to a large extent the public in general. I bet that if you went up to 100 congressioanl members and asked them how many people were on ADAP waiting lists that perhaps maybe 10 would know what ADAP even was.
It is cheaper to fund ADAP fully and provide everyone who needs it life saving meds, than to treat them in the Emergency rooms over and over due to not having the virus under control.
-Will
What the fuck to you think has been going on for the past twenty years before you got butt flu? Activists just sitting around drinking shots of tequila? One of my best friends here in Philly goes down to DC once a year as part of the Ryan White Planning Council and meets with congressmen and/or staff, and it's all done in coordination with activists from all over the country.
No I absolutely believe that activists over the past 20 years can be credited for single handedly getting us to where we are today. Im submitting that there STILL needs to be more education.
So then you agree that your comment that probably only 10 people in Congress know what ADAP is was pure bullcrap?
How many people in Congress do you think could answer what ADAP is?
-WIll
Don't know.
Hey Texas Pete -- no comment on my link down below about Texas thinking of cutting out Medicaid? How many pozzies is that going to fuck up? Folks get meds through that too you know. Better get those signs going.
let's stick to the ADAP crisis
That's such a dodge -- the thread topic is the Tea Party, not ADAP. Now get going on Medicaid asit accounts for half of all federal spending on HIV/AIDS (http://www.kff.org/hivaids/7172.cfm) and your Tea Bag Slice o' Heaven state might be cutting it off.
I'll tell you one thing -- if this happens in a state like yours with +60,000 HIV diagnosis it will make the ADAP crisis look like child's play.
I am curious to know what your thought is on the Federal government providing Assistance to bailout the current ADAP crisis?
Still waiting on your thoughts, any thoughts?
-Will
No I stand by that, although that's not exactly what I said, I said 10 in 100, since there are what 535 people in Congress that would work out to about 50 people.
I do not pretend to know how many people in Congress knows what ADAP is, my belief is that it is very few people. The statement I made was purely to make a point. I have no supporting reference to this.
How many people in Congress do you think could answer what ADAP is?
-WIll
Yes, in fact I do have a solution -- if Red States can't adhere to the federal/state funding of ADAP, meaning their part of the program, then they should lose the federal funding and be dropped entirely from the program. In this way we can finally begin to reduce the budget deficit. Once pozzies start to die in the street then maybe, just maybe, people in those states will begin to do more than "write letters".
maybe, just maybe, people in those states will begin to do more than "write letters".what other suggestions do you have to offer?
Yes, in fact I do have a solution ...they should lose the federal funding and be dropped entirely from the program. ... Once pozzies start to die in the street ...wow. I guess your answer, to my rhetorical question above, is to let people die.
if Red States can't adhere to the federal/state funding of ADAP, meaning their part of the program, then they should lose the federal funding and be dropped entirely from the program.which to bring it back around to the topic, pretending that ADAP funding is a red or blue state funding problem sounds awfully like a tea party slant to America's HIV/AIDS problem.
you're asking someone in New York or California that already pays a really high tax rate to offset the low tax rate in South Carolina that is incapable of paying for ADAP?I sure do, David. To stop this epidemic, I think it's incumbent on ALL of America to stop and/or treat HIV wherever it is.
This should be lots o' fun to see how it effects HIV'ers in the Lone Star State!
NY Times: Texas Considers Medicaid Withdrawal (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/07/us/politics/07ttmedicaid.html)
Why doesn't Texas just become the Lone Star Country and get it over with? Haven't they talked secession for years now? Of course there'd be a huge exodus of ~ahem~ normal people out of the place, but hey, it's all good if right-wing Texans were dumped out of the American political system. The remaining Texans could build a wall around the place and be left to stew in their lack of health care and education. They'd implode sooner or later and the geography could be returned to America.Why would it scare you? You aren't living in the US. ::)
It really boggles my mind to watch what the direction America seems to be going. It's like watching a train wreck and it scares the shit out of me.
Why would it scare you? You aren't living in the US. ::)
It scares me because whatThanks for explaining your concerns.people get away withhappens in the US often emboldens conservatives all around the world. People here in the UK sometimes agitate that we should have a health care system more like the mess that you have - those people have obviously not lived under both systems like I have and have no idea what they're talking about.
I also have family and friends who live in the US. So yes, I'm frightened for them. I'm not one of those "I'm ok, Jack" people, I care about others too.
I sure do, David. To stop this epidemic, I think it's incumbent on ALL of America to stop and/or treat HIV wherever it is.
I think all the overtaxed people in NY and Cali (and the other 48 states) need to fork over money to pay for AIDS prevention and treatment in Malawi, South Africa, etc. too. So if it's okay to do PEPFAR for the whole world, it's okay to do it for all the states too. (Although I am assuming that you agree with the American policy to pay for people in other countries to get meds while the gov't of those countries buy military planes and waste their capital on fraud, waste and theft. I don't think I've ever heard you expounding against American spending money to solve the HIV/AIDS epidemic in other parts of the world.)
Do you really think that pozzies in the States should die to prove some point?
It sure won't be the state legislators who are dying without HIV meds.
and why continue along this line of reasoning? because it's a freaking epidemic.
This is about the ultimate in "universal health care"
Epidemics don't care about boundaries, borders, red or blue states, who's paying taxes, or who's a D or R. If you let SC, Florida and Texas become hotbeds of raging HIV/AIDS epidemic, it won't be long until it becomes more of a problem back in NY and Cali (and elsewhere). Looking back at and learning from the history of HIV in America, it's because of the hotbeds of early HIV infection in big cities in Cali and NY that HIV spread as it did throughout the states. Not stopping HIV in every state, would just cause the reverse to happen 10 yrs in the future.
Of course, one alternative (I'm trying to think of other solutions, any solutions) would be for pozzies to move to the states that do provide better care for their citizens; but then the states you are railing against would just get off scott free of paying anything at all towards the problem. At least while people stay in FL and Texas, those states are having to deal with the accompanying issues of medical care, food stamps, housing, etc.
Whether it's Malawi that won't pay for it's citizens HIV health care or SC, FL or TX that won't pay for it's citizens HIV health care, it's only wise to step in and handle the situation to save lives, to save money in the long run, and (selfishly) to save everyone else in the world from the epidemic too.
OK lets get back to my topic thread and brainstorm.
Has anyone heard a tea partier with vision and a viable plan for "fiscal responsibility"?
I am no great fan of Reagan and didnt share his policy goals, but he was an experienced politician, a serious man and a sincere man. I never felt for a second he went into politics for money or power.
The current Republican gloating about a message to Obama from the American people, just seems so fucking empty. Its all reactionary and negative and undoing. Where is the fucking vision? I truly believe that big corporations and the billionaires club are having their way, using unthinking cows, who think they are part of a movement which is nonsensical.
Not ashamed to admit it: I loved Reagan. It's probably impossible to agree with anyone on everything, but, for my money, he was a great American and really made a difference in this world.
It's probably impossible to agree with anyone on everything
The current Republican gloating about a message to Obama from the American people, just seems so fucking empty. Its all reactionary and negative and undoing. Where is the fucking vision?
Not ashamed to admit it: I loved Reagan. It's probably impossible to agree with anyone on everything, but, for my money, he was a great American and really made a difference in this world.
If you had been diagnosed with AIDS in 1984 would you have thought the same thing? I mean, you're the same age as I am so assuming you were out of the closet back then what exactly were your thoughts as gay men were croaking left and right and Reagan had zilch to say about it?
Great President my ass.
Don't know.
Hey Texas Pete -- no comment on my link down below about Texas thinking of cutting out Medicaid?
Please explain how the administration was able to come up with $26 million to clear the lists in a couple states.
Of course not everyone with HIV is on ADAP. I never said otherwise. I assumed the reader would know this without stating the obvious. However I submit that even ONE person on a waiting list is too many."The perfect is the enemy of the good." and here we aren't even dealing with the realistically perfect but the hypothetical. If we could get the waiting lists down to, say, less than one month, we would have ample reason to celebrate victory and move on.
Agreed, but please provide some supporting information that everyone on waiting lists is being covered through these means.
Absolutely agreed! Show me where I said this was not true, I applaud the initiative wholeheartedly, my concern is that they did not provide a mechanism to get people Meds immediately if need be. However I'll go further and propose that perhaps the inverse of that statement is true...Is there a potential that someone diagnosed under T&T with a cd4 of 25 and a VL in the millions is then placed on a waiting list , but under the pressure of it all just "gives up" and goes off the radar and throws in the towel?
-will
I don't know a lot about the Tea Party but my impression is that this isn't a political party but a reaction to Obama, the Democrats and the failed economy. Basically it is an umbrella of people who don't like the federal government, don't like taxes, don't want healthcare reform, don't want bailouts, do want stronger response to illegal immigrants and don't like having a black president. I think this movement is almost entirely reactionary and they don't have, or want, a vision.
If I'm wrong feel free to correct me.
Ok Pennsylvania Pat I've skimmed the article and here is my comment...
Pffffffft! Barbara PLEASE! This is merely a bunch a conservs who are threatening to withdraw from Medicaid merely to give Washington the big middle finger. Nothing will ever happen with it. Hell this is coming from the state to threatens to secede about every 2 years, hell even Perry mentioned seceding last year in a news conference. You can't believe anything that comes out of the mouths of these whack jobs in Austin. What else you got?
-T. Pete
You laugh now...
source (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/1024dntexbudgetmess.274b11d.html)
Legislature likely to cut deep to meet possible $25 billion budget gap
Texas faces a budget crisis of truly daunting proportions, with lawmakers likely to cut sacrosanct programs such as education for the first time in memory and to lay off hundreds if not thousands of state workers and public university employees.
Texas' GOP leaders, their eyes on the Nov. 2 election, have played down the problem's size, even as the hole in the next two-year cycle has grown in recent weeks to as much as $24 billion to $25 billion. That's about 25 percent of current spending.
The gap is now proportionately larger than the deficit California recently closed with cuts and fee increases, its fourth dose of budget misery since September 2008.
If they seceded, we'd end up paying them billions in foreign aid!
A conservative Maryland physician elected to Congress on an anti-Obamacare platform surprised fellow freshmen at a Monday orientation session by demanding to know why his government-subsidized health care plan takes a month to kick in.
Republican Andy Harris ... reacted incredulously when informed that federal law mandated that his government-subsidized health care policy would take effect on Feb. 1 – 28 days after his Jan. 3rd swearing-in.
“He stood up and asked the two ladies who were answering questions why it had to take so long, what he would do without 28 days of health care" ... “Harris then asked if he could purchase insurance from the government to cover the gap," added the aide, who was struck by the similarity to Harris’s request and the public option he denounced as a gateway to socialized medicine.