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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: EricOsc on December 08, 2013, 03:54:07 pm
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Might be a goofy question, I'm not a very sexually active person, have only had sex a few times, always with protection. After a mutual hand job last night, I gave a guy a blow job. I have sensitive gums and teeth and when I brush them they bleed a little from my gums. I brushed my teeth an hour or two before I blew him.
There may have been some precum, he didn't finish in my mouth.
Is there a risk that I exposed myself to?
Sorry if this is a goofy question, I'm just concerned, I've dealt with OCD my entire life and try to avoid sexual encounters, but we're all human and I let my horniness get the best of me.
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There have been no fewer than three separate serodiscordant couples studies (where one person is HIV positive, the other negative.) These couples were tracked for three. five and ten years. The couples used condoms for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, but NO BARRIER at all for oral sex. Any kind of oral sex.
These studies yielded NO infections.
You did not have a risk in the situation you describe .
ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME for this incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.
If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.
Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than HIV. Some of the other STDs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid HIV infection. It really is that simple!
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Thank you Jeff. I feel a lot better now.
Have a happy holiday.
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You to and you are welcome .
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I'm sorry to ask again, i swear this will be the last.
I just want to make sure I clarified, my gums just can't deal with the "abuse" a tooth brush gives, so they bleed a lot when do my daily cleaning, especially with flossing. Since this happened about two hours after I brushed and flossed, I'm just concerned with the open lining of my gums that were bleeding like they always do. I should still be ok, right? I wasn't bleeding obviously at the time I performed oral on him.
I know I'm probably being OCD, and this night in question has pushed me to talk to a
Professional about my hypochondria with pretty much everything.
Sorry to bother and this will be the last time I ask, I swear!
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I'm sorry to ask again, i swear this will be the last.
I just want to make sure I clarified, my gums just can't deal with the "abuse" a tooth brush gives, so they bleed a lot when do my daily cleaning, especially with flossing. Since this happened about two hours after I brushed and flossed, I'm just concerned with the open lining of my gums that were bleeding like they always do. I should still be ok, right? I wasn't bleeding obviously at the time I performed oral on him.
I know I'm probably being OCD, and this night in question has pushed me to talk to a
Professional about my hypochondria with pretty much everything.
Sorry to bother and this will be the last time I ask, I swear!
I did read your concerns carefully and the answer is still the same, no risk .
We cant help you with your HIV phobia or OCD . Please talk to your mental health provider about this because HIV is not your problem . Please do not buy a subscription in order to ask more questions, we care but cant help you .
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I’m back again, sorry again to bother.
I had just started to feel better from the past few weeks, after my doctor recommended I take an HIV test just for a baseline, and then another one 3 months from now as it was only a low risk. That baseline test came back negative on Friday (via an Oraquick)… with that and the new knowledge that the guy I gave oral to said he was negative, and the replies in this thread of no-risk, I finally had started to feel like myself again…
Well, I had another incident last night.
I had gone out and really hit it off with someone, things started heating up and he asked what I wanted to do, I basically told him since I don’t know him that anything we’ll do will fall into pretty much safe activities… and for the most part, they were. Massaging with all clothes on, kissing on the neck… that sort of thing.
The one concern I now have is that I started grabbing his penis over his boxers. I never came into direct contact with his penis. I don’t know if there was precum, I don’t remember feeling anything wet, I thought things looked damp, I don’t know… but let’s say for the fact there was precum on his boxers. I of course forgot that 2 days before, I had sliced my one finger with scissors. It wasn’t a big cut, in fact it looks like a paper cut. It was well on its way to healing and there hasn’t been any blood since a few minutes after I cut it. When I flip the flab of skin over, I see two specs that are little scabs.
As things continued to progress I considered throwing a condom on and seeing where things would go, but he stopped me and told me that he was HIV positive. I didn’t freak out or anything, but that toned things down from there. The rest of the night we just cuddled and then I left a few hours later.
Should I worry about any precum I may have come in contact with through his boxers and the cut on my hand? Is it safe to assume that if there was no blood from my cut that the cut was effectively sealed off from any exposure risk? Should I consider taking another test or contacting my doctor for meds?
He said he has a good CD4 level in the 1000’s and his VL is undetectable.
I of course am now worried sick again, headaches and all.
I asked another forum and the standard reply was HIV can’t be transmitted in the way I described, everyone says I’m overreacting and can just move on. However I feel more comfortable asking here, as I feel you guys are the best. Once I get your reply, I will feel better either way.
In other news, I am in the process of seeking help for my fear of HIV and all other diseases, I’m seeking out a doctor and am looking forward to getting a hold on my obsessive thoughts that continually feedback on me.
Thank you for your time.
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You never had an exposure.
HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.
HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug users
Mother to child
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Thank you Rapid Rod, I don't know how many times everyone has to tell me no, I'm fine.
I keep telling myself I'm being ridiculous. I sometimes have to step out of my box and think about what I'm asking... HIV from touching boxers? It sounds goofy even saying it.
I'll try my best to stop obsessing over a no risk (right?) situation.
Have a good Christmas/holiday.
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You have absolutely no basis for concern at this point. Cut it out and get on with your life. Really.
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Thank you Andy. I am certainly going to try.
I agree with everyone that has posted, I had no risk for either of my situations. The latest one has just too many things that needed to come together for a transmission to occur... Happened outside his body, don't even remember feeling any precum, so if there was any... It was minuscule. And if for some reason some managed to get into my healing finger cut... I can refer back to point one where his precum was already exposed to air/elements and transmission only occurs inside the body. At least I think I got that right at least.
I again apologize for being a thorn in everyone's side. I appreciate everything and the time you everyone has took to reply to my concerns. You've taken me from crushing overreaction/stress to a much calmer state... And I'm sure as the days go on, my fears will continue to subside.
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The fact that you have a HIV phobia and didn't have a risk for HIV is a clear sign you should not be on a HIV website fixated on your fears . Please talk to your therapist and know that we have helped you all that we can .
I asked you on December 9th not to take out a subscription and the reason is we will not keep discussing no risk situations with you . If you need reassurance and relief from your OCD you need to see your doctor . Please do not continue to post about this incident or you will be given a time out so that you can seek help outside of the forum . Im wishing you the best .
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Jeff, the incident on the 9th I understand, however I am now asking about something that occurred last night. Andy and RapidRod were able to answer my concerns from last night.
I will not bother again. I believe I have all the answers I need
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Since my subscription is expiring, I thought I'd ask one more question not so much about my risks, I understand you've told me I had no risk in either situation... I'm just trying to understand the science/reasoning behind this.... And I think I do now. It might have taken a month but I get it...
Am I correct in assuming that as soon as the virus leaves the body, it immediately becomes damaged, even if partially active for minutes/hours and is unable to spread? If so, that completely alleviates any concern I had for either the oral I gave or cum from the HIV+ person I got on my cut scenarios I had asked about.
Therefore the only risk sexually someone would have would be to have unprotected anal or vaginal sex and that's it?
Thanks.
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HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug users .
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HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug users .
I know, I've read that before, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind that. Is what I asked basically it, it can't stay active once exposed to the elements outside the body?
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HIV is fragile and becomes damaged when exposed to conditions outside the human body, small changes in temperature and PH levels damage it rendering it unable to infect .
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OK. Thanks. I want to ask if that damage is immediate or not, but I feel like I'm walking on eggshells, but is it?
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OK, subscription ends probably like in an hour, will no longer be able to post, so I need to ask one last time... Going to see my therapist, just want to make sure I've got this down, I'll also show them this entire thread.
Too reiterate -
Receptive oral and HIV positive precum in a cut are no risk and not a concern, right?
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Your questions have been asked and answered. There is nothing more that we can do for you.
Joe