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need some peace of mind
« on: August 16, 2011, 09:36:27 am »
Please give me some help.

I was trying to retrieve something behind a chair and there was sharp material back there. Me and 2 other people were trying reaching back there 1 at a time all receiving small scratches. My scratches were pretty shallow, I went to the ER twice worrying and they both said they were superficial and not through all of the dermis. There was no dark blood just the light orangey liquid. I also washed my arms with soap 10 mins after the event. One person who was digging back there longer had deeper wounds, I saw a little blood maybe a few drops.

My question is if say only 5 to 10 seconds goes by from one person being scratched until I'm scratched could I be at risk for HIV? I don't know if these people have it or not but I am abstinent and I want to live a long life so I take any risk seriously. The ER would not give me pep so I am really worried

Thank you.

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Re: Need some help on this weird situation
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 10:46:01 am »
Also to add one of my scratches on my inner forearm is 2 to 3 inches long, the others are all an inch long or less on my forearms or hands I have like 6 or 7 in total

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Re: Need some help on this weird situation
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 11:10:59 am »
Under no circumstances is this even remotely an HIV situation. HIV is spread from unprotected anal and vaginal sex, and by sharing IV drug needles.

I hope you find some help to address this issue. Two trips to the ER over this non-incident should be a red flag that there is a deeper problem going on that should be managed.

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Re: Need some help on this weird situation
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 11:31:18 am »
Please consider that this can be compared to a very shallow needle stick or scrape, all 3 of our arms were scratched / cut in a very close time frame... Within seconds. That's why I am worried about the possible exposure to someone elses blood

The conflicting info is what's killing me.. Some places say HIV can live minutes out of the body, some places say it is dead in 3 seconds. Also some say the cut needs to be deep and others say it can get into your blood stream through tiny vessels at the skins surface. I admit I am crazy, but even if my chance of infection is .0003% then I consider that a chance lol.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2011, 11:34:04 am by hello123 »

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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 12:14:59 pm »
Even if it was a needle, it was no risk.

IV drug injectors who share needles - which means pulling blood with a plunger into a hollow bore needle, then IMMEDIATELY sharing that needle with another user who plunges it BACK, are at risk.

HIV does NOT remain viable outside the body. The only reason it can be spread through needle sharing is because the hollow bore of the needle creates an anaerobic environment for the precious few seconds it needs to travel from one user to another.

Were HIV able to spread through such casual contact as shallow cuts or scrapes the entire world would have it. HIV children play, and often play rough, with HIV negative children by the hundreds of thousands, Yet never in the history of the pandemic has there EVER been a playground infection.

The science just doesn't support the assertions made decades ago (which is where the "HIV remains 'alive' for minutes assertion originated).

We are not, CAN not be responsible to discuss or defend or refute other web sites and outdated or incorrect or biased reports.

Our research uses ONLY first-tiered, peer-reviewed scientific study gathered over the last thirty years. Over the last thirty years, some of the science has changed. Kissing, for example, used to be considered a risk. As did oral sex. These have not been documented to have ever caused infection, however, and have been downgraded to "safe" for HIV.

There absolutely IS bad science out there. And you are more than likely to encounter it.

But the advancement of HIV science, aided in no small part by the huge advances in treatment which allow people to be healthy and sexually active for as long a their negative peers, have NARROWED the means of transmission and infection considerably.

You can not put enough details into your experience to make it a risk - unless you have injected IV drugs using a shared needle, of course.

.0003% - thats probably the theoretical possibility of HIV mutating and becoming airborne. So you do indeed live with that chance.

Also, an asteroid will hit the earth again.

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Re: Need some help on this weird situation
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 12:45:28 pm »
I'm sorry I guess just in my mind it's hard for me to grasp such a powerful disease dropping dead instantly upon leaving the body and that is what really has been freaking me out. I dont even know if these persons have HIV for sure on top of that but I was just looking for an answer on the situation assuming that they were infected.

And to think I haven't had sex in 7 years, I kinda wanted to recently but after this it may be another 7 years I really cannot handle this stuff, I'm not one to take chances.

Thank you for your reply.

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Re: Need some help on this weird situation
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 12:53:57 pm »
HIV cannot drop dead, as it is not technically alive. It is very fragile. however - which is why it did not and will not wipe out the human race.
"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: Need some help on this weird situation
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 04:05:26 pm »

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Re: Need some help on this weird situation
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 07:38:33 pm »
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Re: Need some help on this weird situation
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2011, 12:50:30 am »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3080244.stm

This has me freaked out

I could easily google some stuff that would really freak you out.

And I would not have to scour the internet to a 2003 article to do so.

I urge you to stop.

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Re: Need some help on this weird situation
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2011, 08:01:53 am »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3080244.stm

This has me freaked out

Yeah, right. That article is full of "is thought to", "perhaps" and "maybe". The younger sister probably shagged the same guy as her older sister. I do not believe the razor theory - and that's all it is, a theory - for one minute.

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Re: Need some help on this weird situation
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2011, 09:51:39 am »
What's the soonest accurate test I can get? It's been 3.5 days and this stress is going to kill me seriously. I can't live like this

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Re: Need some help on this weird situation
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2011, 09:55:53 am »
You dont need to test.

There was no risk.

Please seek appropriate help for this unwarranted and undue anxiety.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 11:45:28 am »
I have been researching this alot, I read up on the medical study done on actual needle sticks.

A couple people contracted HIV from "superficial" needle sticks

I am not trying to be a pain I just want to make sure the information your giving me is correct. The study I am referencing is from this, it may be outdated. All I'm saying is that just because my incident didn't happen in a hospital, it doesn't mean it's not similar


http://www.hpa.org.uk/web/HPAwebFile/HPAweb_C/1194947336609

My nerves are slightly better...(I figure 1% of the population has HiV and I have about 10 to 12 scratches that I attribute to about 6 needlesticks) so my overall chances are about 1.5 to 3 percent by my hypochondriac calculations

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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2011, 12:00:03 pm »
Hello,

You and your friends snagged yourselves on something sharp on a chair - NOT a needle. Your situation is so far away from an occupational exposure it isn't even funny. You absolutely did NOT have a risk for hiv infection.

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2012, 09:26:34 pm »
i know im probably crazy, i realize that... but i havent had sex in 7 years until this past weekend.

so i was having sex with this guy, and we kept having trouble with the condoms because i was buzzed and couldnt stay hard.  i finally ended up getting it in him, and i fucked him for maybe 2 minutes... i was still not completely hard, and i had a lot of precum so i went to pull out my dick and the condom ended up sliding up to the beginning of my head, so i pulled it back down my shaft. i dont think the condom fell off inside him or anything, but it was like i was going in and out of the condom.  i stopped after another 30 seconds or so.

think theres any chance some of his fluids made it to my urethra?  i think thats the area that gets infected right?

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Re: need some peace of mind
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2012, 10:58:20 pm »
You never had an exposure. Once a condom comes off it doesn't jump back on the penis.

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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2012, 05:54:02 am »
Hello,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep everything in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

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What's important is that the head of your penis was covered by the condom. As Rodney said, condoms don't fall off then jump back on. You also don't need to worry about fluids getting inside the condom. It just doesn't happen.

Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection. There have been three long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY OVER THIS PROTECTED INCIDENT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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